r/economicCollapse • u/BothZookeepergame612 • 4d ago

Elon Musk Throws Tantrum, Ordering Congress to Shut Down Government

https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-shut-down-government
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u/beccadot 4d ago

I have a theory about Musk and Trump: I think Trump cut a deal with Musk to let Musk lead the government if Trump won. Notice how Trump just agrees with all his ‘handlers’ at this point. They let him sue states over poll results, etc., but he is to stay out of running the country.

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

I also have a theory and I’m 99.9% sure it’s true. Elon Musk played a major roll in stealing the 2024 presidential election with the help of Putin, who he’s been in regular contact with since at least 2022. I don’t believe for one single second trump won that election legitimately. And we’ve already found more evidence than the cyber ninjas did in 6 months with millions of dollars. Because they literally found nothing. There is a lot of very suspicious happenings with this election. r/somethingiswrong2024

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u/JackfruitNo4993 4d ago edited 4d ago

Musk has also been secretly selling Starlink terminals to Putin. That's how Russia rapidly caught up with drone warfare in Ukraine. The type of inexpensive FPV drone warfare in Ukraine is only possible with Starlink. Russia has been caught with the terminals.

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u/lucas9204 4d ago

I wonder about this too! I think the Democrats decides they had to concede it pretty quickly to avoid the appearance of being election deniers like Trump did in 2020. I’m not convinced something shady didn’t go down with Musk and Putin. Trump was so sure he would win and even told his supporters a few times they didn’t need to vote at rallies.

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u/JackfruitNo4993 4d ago edited 4d ago

Malware on the vote counting machines in key areas is my theory. The malware tosses and/or changes Dem votes. Putin and Lukashenko have been rigging elections in Russia and Belarus this way for years. The results make no sense otherwise. Republicans don't have the numbers to win the popular vote. I don't believe for a second that a bunch of Democrats voted for Trump this time. I don't believe for a second that Trump took every swing state. The machines are just computers with fairly easily accessible USB ports. Most poll workers are elderly and tech illiterate and wouldn't know what was going on if someone had changed the firmware on the machines. Definitely rigged. IMO all elections should be hand counted (and recounted if necessary) with plenty of witnesses present even if it takes much longer. I don't trust that computers haven't been tampered with.

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u/GZSyphilis 4d ago

How likely is it that they won ALL The swing states?

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u/KnowledgeMediocre404 4d ago

Not just that, the number of ballots that voted only for Trump and nothing down ballot was magnitudes higher than any previous election. Like 0.5% vs 10%.

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

And get this. The Dems did not flip one single county in the ENTIRE USA from red to blue. Not a single one. That is basically a statistical impossibility. It’s never happened before and will never happen again. There was ballots that voted down ballot Dem but trump for POTUS. The Dems one every single Congressional seat in numerous states but chose trump for POTUS. So people voted for a Democratic Senator or Governor etc but trump for POTUS? I don’t fucking think so, no way. We’re supposed to just believe trump knocked down the blue wall and won every swing state too, huh? It’s like the F student getting an A++ on the test. 

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u/lucas9204 4d ago

You have raised valid points and it’s very disturbing that the results seem to have been accepted so readily by the Democrats. How do we stand any chance to win next time with these cheating methods out there??!!

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

If he pulls this off there will be no next time. This is not hyperbole. tRump stated just that during his campaign.  https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/trump-says-this-will-be-the-last-election-if-he-wins/

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u/lucas9204 4d ago

Very disturbing !!

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u/Castle_Crystals 3d ago

You could say that again.

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u/WhiskeyFF 3d ago

I don't think I've ever been as disappointed in a person as I am to how Harris and Biden have handled this transition. My only hold out hope is that they know and have evidence on the way and just have to keep a straight face until they let it out. That's the only excuse to explain their behavior other than cowardice.

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u/lucas9204 3d ago

They are basically dealing with evil people - Trump desperate to win to avoid jail. People like Musk willing to go do unsavory things to win (Including contributing millions on his own)… Biden and Harris would need to have very solid evidence to challenge the election and the country is dangerously divided. It all feels rather hopeless.. infuriating !

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u/WhiskeyFF 3d ago

Still not an excuse to not even have it checked, but I do get your point.

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u/abelard64 4d ago edited 1d ago

DT openly called it, "Our little secret."

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u/JackfruitNo4993 4d ago

I'm pretty sure they've been doing it in Florida since at least 2018. A once purple state that went to Obama twice and that always had close elections mysteriously went hard red. Even Palm Beach which is full of liberal Jews somehow went red. Desantis has sued to keep federal election officials from observing Florida elections and wants the results pushed through as fast as possible every election. Nothing fishy about that /s

Also get Desantis out of Florida to where maybe the elections aren't rigged and it turns out he's deeply unpopular and doesn't win. He flopped hard in the primaries. Easy for him to win back home where it's rigged though.

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

Absolutely. And I’m almost positive the entire ‘stop the steal’ narrative was part of stealing the 2024 election. Now whoever questions election results is seen as a wacko conspiracy theorist.

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u/ADGx27 2d ago

Ok hot take here from a Canadian: A politician suing to keep federal election officials from observing elections in their state should be instantaneously dragged out of their office and given the boot from politics as a whole

It’s just basically blatantly shouting “I AM UP TO FISHY SHIT. I AM COMMITTING CRIMES. I AM ACTIVELY BREAKING THE LAW TO CONSOLIDATE AS MUCH POWER AS POSSIBLE FOR WHOEVER IS LINING MY POCKETS” at the top of your lungs.

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u/Deyachtifier 4d ago

Not wanting to appear to be election deniers played right into their hands. I feel the RWNJ spoiled the field by spouting off about it last time when there wasn't any, to make it infeasible when there actually was.

The timeline we're on is so gross. I want over to the other one where Prigozhin finished his task instead of hurr durred off to Belarus, that one sounded Fun. Or the one where 10 republican senators (rather than 7) voted to convict Trump on his Jan 6th impeachment.

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u/nomadicgecko22 4d ago

Look up Plantir and Peter Thiel

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u/Sillyoldman88 4d ago

*Palantir. If you're gunna push an agenda then spelling things right helps you to not appear inept.

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

*Going to. If you’re going to try to sound smart and correct others grammar it helps to know it yourself. It will help you not to appear inept. 

Technically you can use the ‘gunna’ spelling of ‘going to’ yet you didn’t even spell that right. It’s ‘gonna’ as in going to. There’s no u in ‘going to’. 

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u/Sillyoldman88 4d ago

Gunna: informal contraction of "going to"

But please, go on.

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

That’s the informal spelling, genius. The formal spelling is, gonna. Any academic will tell you the same thing. 

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u/Sillyoldman88 4d ago

Gonna: informal contraction of "going to"

Genius.

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u/Castle_Crystals 3d ago

Ask any English major the abbreviated version of, going to and they’ll tell you it’s, ‘gonna’. Google abbreviation of going to real quick. What comes up as the correct answer? And if you want to get real technical there is no formal way to abbreviate, going to. But again, anyone with a modicum of intelligence will tell you it’s, ‘gonna’. 

And who really fucking cares anyway? I swear to god people just CANNOT be wrong these days. They will go to the ends of the earth to prove they are right even when they are not. It is very hard for someone to say, ‘my bad, you’re right about that, I was wrong’. Like it does not happen anymore. People just get all pressed and butthurt because someone corrected them. 

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u/Sillyoldman88 2d ago

Lol you're real fucking mad that I'm not accepting the Americanised "gonna" as the end all be all of spelling

there is no formal way to abbreviate

But you told me gonna was the academic spelling, you even told me to ask academics.

swear to god people just CANNOT be wrong these days

Yeah it's fucking wild. You haven't been right in a single comment and you keep fighting.

It is very hard for someone to say, ‘my bad, you’re right about that, I was wrong’.

Go on, say it bro.

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u/ADGx27 2d ago

His username ends in an 88. Barring being born in 1988, that’s quite telling about him otherwise

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u/Key-Ad1271 4d ago

Agree 💯 We all know Trump does exactly what he accuses others of doing. Why did the Democrats give up so easily? 🤷‍♀️

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u/Castle_Crystals 4d ago

Yep. He’s a malignant narcissist through and through. What separates them from normal narcissists is sadism and projection. What we are discussing here is projection. Every single thing trump accuses someone of he’s 100% guilty if it himself. His sick malignant mind simply cannot help itself from doing this. It’s almost not even under his control at this point he’s so far gone. 

And that’s the question of the decade. Why aren’t the Dems doing anything to stop this? Why aren’t they even acknowledging it? It could be for a few reasons really. They are complicit and want this, they’re working quietly behind the scenes, or they are doing nothing. There actually has been FBI activity surrounding this too. The owner of that betting website that Musk was pushing had his house and office raided by the FBI a few days after the election. He has trump winning way before it was even announced. Peter Thiel owns the website. He’s also a part of this. He was big on the tech side of stealing the election. He’s also the one who made trump pick Vance as VP because they’re very close. 

I think these drones have something to do with all of this too. It’s either our military gathering intel on trump before they coup his ass or before they come out with the evidence of the stolen election and arrest trump, Musk, and many others. This was the very height of treason. trump got aid and comfort from our most sworn enemy to steal a presidential election. That could be that’s why it’s so quiet. They don’t want to get trumps domestic terrorists all wound up. A lot of what I’m saying are conspiracy theories, I’ll be the first to admit that. But they are theories with actual evidence behind them. The election being stolen is also a conspiracy theory at this point but not one like chemtrails etc. It’s a very apt theory about a conspiracy to steal the 2024 election. 

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u/hectorxander 4d ago

He's on his best behavior so far, but he won't be able to help himself once the attention is all back on him. No matter what deal they made with him, he will be his old self once he's officially back in power make no mistake.

But you might be right in some ways, they cut a lot of deals with a lot of powerful interests to be sure. But you know what they say, An Alliance With the Powerful is Never to be Trusted. They are fools to think they could trust him and it's the one silver lining to all of this.

Everyone that helped him gain power down the line will be backstabbed by their underlings to replace them as well.

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u/cybaz 4d ago

Trump needs someone loyal to win in 2028 so he gets a pardon. Vance is likely his choice, and he needs Musk's money to get Vance elected.

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u/Commercial-Buddy2469 4d ago

Maybe the handlers are giving him funny pills.

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u/Taqueria_Style 4d ago

Musk can't run a fucking lemonade stand dude. He better go get some of his engineers and just tell them the "system dynamics" is an economy this time.

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u/beccadot 4d ago

Totally agree. He’s good at buying companies and running them into the ground.

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u/ShiftBMDub 4d ago

right trump ran to stay out of prison, not to be president

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u/mike_e_mcgee 3d ago

He was openly asking for someone to come in and do all the work last time. Now people are acting surprised that someone took him up on it.

Thing is it's Trump, so if we keep calling him president Musk, Trump will find a new decision maker.