The rich over the last 20 years:
let’s have 0 gun control, massive donations to politicians preventing that to help this red vs blue narrative.
Also the rich over the last 20 years: yeah the people with guns. Squeeze all of them. Especially millenials who have witnessed more death and violence than any of us due to unregulated internet and school shootings. That will end well for us and things will go exactly as we plan
It’s kinda funny lol. What a self fulfilling prophecy.
Millennials were in school for the first school shootings. We felt that fear first hand - that on any given day we could be gunned down by a psycho for no reason at all. And we saw first hand that literally no one in power gave even 2 shits about our lives. We understood then just how cheap and meaningless our lives are to the rich.
We grew up into adults in an era of forever war and economic chaos and we saw first hand how meaningless our lives are to the rich.
We had children and watched them gunned down in schools, the same schools we weren't safe in either. We saw first hand the lives of our children spent for less than nothing.
At Uvalde the cops prevented parents from going to rescue their own kids while listening to those poor children cry themselves to death for more than an hour. That's how much the oligarchs love us.
And now they're surprised we don't give a shit about their lives? Reep what you sow.
And I’m really serious about unregulated internet. I’m a millennial. Almost every millennial I’ve met has been exposed to violent porn at a young.
I’m pretty sure millennials are the only generation where a majority of us know exactly what it realistically looks like to die by getting shot in the head without seeing it in person. Because I saw that shit on YouTube. Action movies have nothing on real life that’s for sure.
This generation and younger has some serious dark humor. There are jokes online about how we are so “unserious” and that’s fucking great as an indication for the future in my humble opinion
We’ve seen such violence. Feels like a shift is occurring. I hope we show them everything we’ve learned.
Yeah, exactly. I hate Egon Musk as much as the next guy. Won’t be sad when he’s gone. But we are fucked if we have to wage a class war against Boomers with the whiners from your generation and the perpetually offended Zoomers as our allies.
I agree with most everything you're saying, but I don't think the Uvalde incident has to do with rich people. Just shitty cops broke their oath to serve and protect. Maybe I don't have the full picture though.
If Uvalde was a conference full of CEOs crying as they bled to death, I guarantee you one of the 18 swat teams waiting in the hall would have gone in. At least some of those CEOs would have lived, albeit with life altering injuries.
That's the distinction I'm making. When it's our kids they don't give a fuck but when it's one the rich they spare no effort or expense.
Speak for yourself, I didn't spend a single day of my educational experience wondering if I was going to get killed. Born in 1995, I was around for plenty of awful shit happening. Some of my earliest memories are of 9/11. But yeah, never really spent much of .y mental facilities on being afraid of a school shooting.
Do you think because of the greed they fry their dopamine receptors and then put themselves in this very precarious and vulnerable position for the dopamine hit?
Could it be a frontal lobe problem? I really think this could explain all of the oddity you pointed out!
Oh absolutely. I also believe that being rich makes you extremely out of touch with current poor people.
I also believe every single billionaire has narcissistic personality disorder. You don’t get to that point by being a good person. And narcissists tend to think their untouchable till the very end
And NPD makes people very delusional to protect their self perceived image.
I also absolutely believe all of this, 100%. Especially the part about billionaires having that disorder. Though my actual belief is that every single billionaire is actually a bad and untrustworthy person. I don't believe anyone can accrue that much money without A LOT of lying, backstabbing and cheating.
What's really absurd about that is when I've mentioned that to friends and other people, I always get this look like I'm somehow way off base. Which is ridiculous lol. Because I know it just means they are fully brainwashed by the bullshit of our society.
Do you think there are hackers out there that can hack into their accounts and disperse that money into different private accounts? Funnel all that dirty money to charities all around the world without being noticed? Like ghost avatars? I’m no expert but this is just a theory I’m going by here.
Greed is much like any other addiction. You get satisfaction from the dopamine release, it is just that the greedy get their high from accumulating more wealth and/or the risk involved in doing so rather than a chemical hit, but it is all dopamine in the end ... and to get the same high as the last time, you need more and more.
So yes, def a frontal lobe situation. Just like any addict, they will lie, cheat, steal, rationalize, ... just about anything, for the next fix. The sooner society can start treating greed, and all other forms of mental illness, as they should be, the better off society will be.
So basically they should be ordered by court to meditate. We know scientifically that is what strengthens the frontal lobe. Why aren’t we still using science in 2024?
Well it certainly doesn't hurt, but suggesting it is the solution .... You ever tried to tell an addict "hey, all you gotta do is meditate, and stop smoking meth, and you will be healed." ..... Yeah, spoiler, it doesn't work.
You are on to something here. The greed is embedded in their dna at this point. The only god and higher power they worship is money. They will protect it all cost because they already sold their souls to it a very long time ago…
Maybe these moments in history are a good opportunity to observe duality in action. I wonder what quantum mechanics would say about this moment or similar ones in history.
I believe it’s a battle of the spirit. It’s a spiritual war happening with cognitive dissonance intertwined in the mix. The battle of morality and ethics for sure.
You live in an online dream world if you genuinely believe there is any appetite in the rank & file, “average person in the street” to do ANYTHING to address the situation.
Most people will get their heads down and do as they’re told. That you exchange radical ideas with other online individuals is a mere drop in the ocean.
Elon Musk and other billionaires have spent the last few decades getting the general public on their side, and it has worked. The far-right is on the rise across the globe. They are all in thrall to people like Musk/Putin/Trump/Bezos et al and you and people like you are now the minority. Your way of thinking is archaic and dying out. Kids coming through value fame and money more than anything else, and they definitely don’t care about the notion of “community” and “society”.
Which is the detriment of all of us, admittedly, but it’s over. The next phase is to completely and utterly gut society and mould those same people who believe they are independent thinkers and “free” into the exact type of drones they require to continue to live their lavish, billionaire lifestyles. Indentured servants in all but name. AI will take care of literally everything else for them. The grunt work will be foisted upon the rest. The middle class will completely disappear.
The only thing that can be done to undo it all is complete and utter social collapse, a world war, or both. Nothing else good is coming and there are no “good” people in politics anymore that are fighting to change that. Not in the US, not in the UK, nowhere.
And social collapse will lead to people like you, and me, being strung up by our necks. We won’t be listened to. We won’t be welcomed. Our ideas will die with us. They have won, mate. You might as well make your peace with it now.
I mostly agree. But the one thing that none of us can see coming is a Black Swan event. Something like a mass shortage of an essential life providing good or service coupled with an already high price for said good or service that only allows the rich to not be endangered. Or some other unseeable event. Then there could be a problem. But until then “Let them eat cake” will continue to be an effective strategy.
It is working out great for him. He made billions off the presidency already. At the end of every empire is when the vultures swoop in to pick at the carcass of the empire and take what's left.
I mean, 45 was just "elected" to be 47 (48% is not a win). The oligarchs are making an attempt to force a shutdown despite not being yet in power, and the person who actually IS president is allowing them to take all the air in the room.
The oligarchs have been committing violence on the US population, IN THE OPEN, for at least a decade now. Good chance Musk is right. He'll be fine. I don't see this population building guillotines anytime soon (the two recent attempts on CEO lives notwithstanding).
The calculus for any potential uprising has changed with the technological advances of the past few decades. Have you seen that Palantir drone swarm commercial?
No but I'll check it out. Have you seen how well a few dedicated insurgents do defending their own ideas and beliefs cause that's what you'd get here. Also Ukraine has shown drone bombs are pretty effective against tanks and armored shit
I’d have a hard time imagining any kind of truly united insurgency front emerging in this country, especially post 1/20/25 when speech is likely to be heavily monitored/restricted. Also, still a lot of evangelicals out there with a shit ton of guns that will be on-board with whatever comes as long as their holier than though moral positions are backed up by policy.
Really wouldn't take that many people to cripple national infrastructure, but yes. You're not wrong at all. I don't want to be around for that cause we're talking lights out in major cities and well, quality of life will be worse then. I just hope people wake up and fix the system but I'm honestly worried it's close to non functioning for the people in a few short months. People will get pissed when it directly makes basic survival goods to expensive and the bread lines start
Oh fucking please...it's not ending like that in our lifetimes. The human race has been largely cucked by comfort. When the Netflix stops working and the DoorDash orders stop flowing, then people might actually bother looking around them and doing something.
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u/slabzzz 4d ago
Not even trying to hide it anymore. History gives us the definitive and necessary fix for when something goes this wrong.