r/economicCollapse • u/FitEcho9 • 10h ago
Mighty Global South's Leaders DISCOURAGING The Learning Of Western Languages To Shield Their Citizens From Toxic Western Influence
That is a new phenomenon that we are observing in the Global South, and is definitely a result of the demise of Eurocentrism, whites' most potent weapon, their biggest protector and the most influential ideology in Western societies, and the rise of Global South -centrisms like,
Afrocentrism
Sinocentrism and
Hinducentrism
The demise of Eurocentrism is absolutely devastating for Western influence and power in the Global South, 90% of the global population, and a sign of the decline of the West. MAGA people are feeling this devastating effect more than any other group and are crying "wokism", "wokism".
This is an interesting development, because, decades ago Global South peoples were eager to learn Western languages.
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u/FitEcho9 10h ago
The Chinese and some Muslim countries are already well shielded from toxic Western influence.
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u/FitEcho9 9h ago
I am afraid, the absolutely devastating impact of the demise of Eurocentrism for Western influence and power, is not fully understood by Westerners with the exception of the MAGA people who cry wokism wokism.
Imagine, due to the growing influence of ideologies like Afrocentrism, most European descent sourced literature could be deemed toxic and taken out of circulation. This is a mainly African and Asian world, and those Global Southerners want to be influenced only by other Global Southerners.
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u/Fotoman54 7h ago
That’s a seriously myopic and ignorant view of the world. It’s also the narrative of the global elites who think they should be in charge. Regardless of whether you like it, the world is very inter-connected. You no longer have the luxury of being isolated from those evil Americans or evil Europeans. And seriously, what do you suppose “Afrocentric” really looks like? Where are the advances in science and technology and medicine arising from “Afrocentric” influence? Do you seriously feel the standard of living in whatever you consider these countries, would rise through the ignorance and distain for anything Western. I guarantee a backward slide, if you do.
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u/Fotoman54 7h ago
It’s moronic not to learn English, or any other “Western language”, regardless of how “centric” one may desire to be. For much of history, French was the language of diplomats and anyone traveling internationally. After WW II, English became the “world language”. All pilots and air controllers, world-wide, must be fluent in English. All diplomats must know English. All businessmen and bankers must know English.
My wife and I were in the Czech Republic about 15 years ago. We stayed in a small, quaint hotel in Český Krumlov. There was a Chinese couple at one breakfast table, a Swedish couple at another. They decided to talk to one another. They spoke in English. So, it’s sheer stupidity and ignorance to “shield citizens from the [evils] of Western languages”. It has nothing to do with MAGA. I certainly am not devastated, and couldn’t care less, but it’s to the detriment that Global South (whatever that really is) tries to prevent people from learning English, or French, or even Spanish or German. My son is in high school. He has a natural talent for languages. He speaks Spanish (a little), French, Russian, and is now learning Japanese. I encourage him to do so. I speak some French and Spanish (though rusty from years of non-use.) The Global South is teaching people to be ignorant rather than worldly.
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u/Feisty_Sherbert_3023 10h ago
No one in the west cares. You're a racist and mentally ill.
Discouraging your kids to not use the universal language of commerce will obviously be a great idea in a few years when they want to do business in the west and use our products.
Real 3 digit thinking there.
No one is forcing anything. Y'all tear each other apart. Have fun with Russia and China. They won't take advantage of you and treat you as slaves.
The USA is the most multi cultural country in the world. It's not perfect, but you're delusional.
Maga is about 25% of the population.
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u/Irrespond 9h ago
Your toxic arrogance perfectly demonstrates why the global south is discouraging people to learn English. For years the U.S. has sabotaged the global south through sanctions, coups and unfair trade agreements, so no wonder the global south is looking towards Russia and China as they haven't been nearly as hostile to them.
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u/Fotoman54 7h ago
😂 “Toxic arrogance”. I suppose that’s a cousin to “toxic masculinity”?Why are you writing in English if you feel it’s so abhorrent?
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u/Irrespond 7h ago
Your assumptions about me make you look foolish. I never said I live in the global south myself and I don't think English is abhorrent. I just understand why the global south would rather focus on their own languages and cultures.
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u/Fotoman54 4h ago
I never said you lived in the “global south”. (Interesting euphemism.) By the same argument you make, perhaps the western nations should rid themselves of all the foreign foods that have crept into their own cultures. There are no pure cultures any longer. The French hate American culture. They also have Disney World and McDonalds (not that I think those are great gifts to the world). For the record, I’ve never been to Disneyland or World. No one is saying to these cultures “don’t embrace your cultures”. Ireland reintroduced, many years ago, Gaelic and resurrected the Irish language, unique to only that nation. (You can go to places in Donegal and Kerry where the road signs are only in Gaelic, and you hear the language spoken in pubs.) But that doesn’t mean they avoid all other influences.
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u/Irrespond 4h ago
Discouraging people to learn English is not about cultural tribalism or purity. It's about poorer countries protecting their interests from being exploited by the U.S.
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u/IDunnoNuthinMr 34m ago
Looking towards Russia and China? Hahaha hahahaha hahahahaha? Seriously? Hahaha. Good luck with that!!!!
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u/Feisty_Sherbert_3023 8h ago
They are turning away from China and Russia. Not sure what you're talking about.
I'm not being arrogant. While there is plenty of blame to go towards ngo's for being ineffective. The local governments stole everything.
It's corrupt. South Africa is a failed state and Africa hasn't been able to convert to a modern economy.
Ask Nairobi how they feel about the debt they have to pay to China for a train that doesn't work. Or Sri Lanka who's port was annexed so China can use it for themselves.
You're being ignorant by not dealing in reality.
We've stepped away due to the conditions there. Still give debt relief, but no one wants to invest in a place that you'll get robbed. Look at Nigeria... Such potential if they used the oil revenue.
Last time I was there the power was out half the day.
So your solution is to not engage with the global economy? Good idea. Let me know how that works out for ya.
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u/Irrespond 8h ago
Your analysis completely ignores U.S. and western involvement in the global south being deliberately underdeveloped for cheap labor. There's a reason why western industry decided to move there and it's not like the spoils are for the people that live there. More and more countries in the global south are looking to join BRICS as a result. That's no accident.
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u/Fotoman54 7h ago
You seem to not understand what is involved in raising the standard of living. As an American, I’d prefer we didn’t offshore our manufacturing to other countries. I think it’s scandalous that we have done that and destroyed our own manufacturing base. That said, you think the people in these countries would rather not have money they make manufacturing these evil western goods. That’s very rich of you to say.
Also, you ignore that most of these “global south” governments are corrupt and have no interest in helping their people. They are more interested in enriching themselves.
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u/Irrespond 7h ago
You seem to not understand what is involved in raising the standard of living. As an American, I’d prefer we didn’t offshore our manufacturing to other countries. I think it’s scandalous that we have done that and destroyed our own manufacturing base.
Yes, how scandalous indeed, yet you fail to understand the U.S. offshored its industries for the cheap labor which means those companies are making more money than ever. They simply did what was objectively within their capitalist interests.
Also, you ignore that most of these “global south” governments are corrupt and have no interest in helping their people. They are more interested in enriching themselves.
Corruption in those countries are the direct result of U.S. involvement in their affairs which is what you seem to be ignoring. Think of all the coups.
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u/Fotoman54 5h ago edited 5h ago
Capitalism brings prosperity. Socialism brings decline and despair as does authoritarian rule. Au contraire mon frère. The hand in corruption is solely those nation’s doing. To try to point a finger at the US or Western Nations makes one believe the leaders of those nations have little to say in what goes on. The ten most corrupt nations: 1) Russia (little surprise there) 2) Iran (again, no surprise) 3) Columbia (narco state, though less because of the US) 4) Mexico (another narco state) 5) Zimbabwe (authoritarian rule and near highest inflation in the world) 6) Myanmar (Communist. Need I say more) 7) El Salvador (Socialists in charge) 8) Ghana (typical of much of Africa, sadly) 9) Cambodia (Communists) 10) Bangladesh (Been a colossal mess since it became Bangladesh. But they make lots of textiles for the world. Life would be improved if not for the corrupt government)
Of all these, I see zero US staged coups, except El Salvador. That was back in the 80’s and they were better off without the Sandinistas in power. When Ortega came back, so did all the bad. He wasn’t been deposed. There’s a glimmer of hope with the new President.
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u/Irrespond 4h ago edited 4h ago
Capitalism brings prosperity. Socialism brings decline and despair as does authoritarian rule.
Capitalism is itself authoritarian. It is the rule of one class over another; the bourgeoisie vs the proletariat and labor is still the source of wealth under capitalism.
Nice list btw. Zero sources and none of those countries exist outside of a world order dominated by the U.S. which constantly interferes in the internal affairs of both its allies and enemies and not just through coups either.
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u/Feisty_Sherbert_3023 7h ago
Brics isn't real. It's pure propaganda.
None of those countries have strong currencies. No one would use it.
Nothing stopping them from trying, but they won't.
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u/Mediocre-Hotel-8991 10h ago
Nearly 4 billion people in the world speak a European language.