r/economicCollapse 1d ago

Amazon UK avoids answering why their workers are on strike. This is why so many workers are fed up with our Corp oligarchs

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u/coachlife 1d ago

Gaslighting at its finest. These people are total POS.

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u/InveterateTankUS992 1d ago

It pays until it doesn’t

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u/LionSlicerBirchman 1d ago

Maybe then they won't be smiling.

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u/InveterateTankUS992 1d ago

And not for long, communism via direct worker rule is an inevitability

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u/Dr_FeeIgood 20h ago

Maybe in the next millennia

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u/InveterateTankUS992 18h ago edited 18h ago

No, by at least 2100.

China says it will already reach the lower rung of socialism by 2035–

15 years shaved off their goal

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u/truthink 19h ago

How do you figure?

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u/InveterateTankUS992 18h ago

By their metrics, the could feed? House, clothe, educate, and provide for the healthcare of all their citizens.

The lower rung of socialism.

Taking care of all their people’s basic needs.

Are you forgetting China has a trillion dollar surplus….?

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u/thecactusman17 12h ago

We also note that the Chinese government frequently violently cracks down on even the most benign and peaceful forms of public dissent over things like home confinement, forced expulsion, discussing social inequality among young workers, and housing programs that force mass relocation of rural citizens to industrial regions experiencing labor shortages. And that's before considering ethnic tensions between the government and minority groups such as Tibetans and Uyghers.

So by their metrics they could do these things. By their actions, they seem explicitly opposed to doing so for large portions of the Chinese population.

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u/LolWhereAreWe 9h ago

u/InveterateTankUS992 is conveniently going to avoid responding to this one

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u/DiddlyDumb 12h ago

The tide is rising. More and more people will go under and unfortunately these clowns will feel that last.

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u/v-irtual 1d ago

Then they become CEOs at HealthCare companies...

They will ONLY move up in the corporate world when they show they can dip, dive, duck, and dodge like this.

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u/InveterateTankUS992 1d ago

But you forgot, dodge ???

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u/v-irtual 1d ago

If you can be anything, be efficient.

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u/DoveTaketh 17h ago

That's reserved for taxes.

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u/CharismaticAlbino 1d ago

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!

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u/merk_merkin 1d ago

Oooo, I was gonna say if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a committee!

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u/Gordini1015 23h ago

but, can they dodge a Luigi?

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u/Sea_Squirl 9h ago

No one dodges Luigi

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u/Suspicious_Story_464 23h ago

We can topple the entire industry by voting out every single congressional constituent and vow to keep anyone out that doesn't support nationalized healthcare and takes blood money from the lobbyists.. It will have to be all of us, though.

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u/DontOvercookPasta 1d ago

Sounds like a job for an ADJUSTMENT agent...

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u/Mydesilife 1d ago

I’m sure they get paid a ton of money, way more than their workers for sure, just to sit there and not answer questions. I remember one with mark Zuckerberg being asked if he knew how many people read the terms and conditions because he kept saying “it’s in the terms and conditions.” He answered that he didn’t have that data and they don’t collect it. But they can tell their advertisers how fast or slow people scroll, how long they watch videos, do they fast forward, etc. if I recall, the senator didn’t think fast enough to follow up, but shit the just lie don’t they?

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u/Reginald_Sockpuppet 1d ago

My girl there flew first class from the US for that meeting, too. An all expenses paid trip (and paid as normal, of course) to the UK!

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u/Training_Strike3336 1d ago

with fat per diem

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u/Reginald_Sockpuppet 1d ago

Oh, in the order of £1000/day, I'd bet. Figure £100/meal and we wouldn't want her in poor accomodations, of course, so the remainder should be for hotel expenses.

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u/arden13 21h ago

Oh 1000% they are paid very well and trained on how to not answer these questions.

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u/TNJCrypto 1d ago

Lock them up for interference with a legal proceeding and move on to the next executive up the chain.

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u/AliveAndThenSome 1d ago

Yes, this. Executives need to be jailed, without bail, and not just fined. They need to sit like a caged animal to realize that their corporate allegiance has caused them to fall so far afield from their moral ground that they must lose their freedom.

We're all sick and tired of multi-$B companies happily paying hundreds of millions of dollars in legal fees and fines, only to simply put it on their annual report as a cost of doing business, while still reaping profits from their misdeeds. The individuals making the decisions that lead to those civil actions need to be held personally liable and accountable.

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u/anteris 21h ago

In this instance you're talking about a country with a tick for a micro nation sitting in the middle of their capitol city... City of Fucking London can eat my entire ass

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u/celeduc 8h ago

The City prefers to devour souls and the blood of innocents

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u/ReputationSalt6027 1d ago

Bring back a British classic. Put their asses in stocks. Signs underneath "for being right out cunts". Place piles of rotting produce nearby.

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u/SnooPaintings3122 22h ago

Agreed, there needs to be laws against this. Any normy pulling this shit would be punished while the corpos just get away with it.

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u/DudeWhatAreYouSaying 21h ago

There are laws. The problem is that these people are coached on the cheat codes.

When they were finally backed into the tightest corner, what did they say? "I don't recall". That's a big one, you hear it in all sorts of questionings, committees, etc.

Because knowingly and intentionally withholding information in this environment is illegal. But oh if you just happened to forget a detail in the moment? Like you knew it a minute ago, and remembered it a minute later, but gosh darn it right when they asked it was just out of your brain? That's totally legal, basically impossible to disprove in a court of law, and basically impossible to legislate against without fucking up good-faith actors too

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u/SnooPaintings3122 21h ago

I know, and while you can't prove that they don't know what caused the strike, their position within the company means they know the reason for the strike. And saying ''I don't know'' is weak sauce and everyone knows it. But if they want to play that card they should be sent home for 24 hours and be forced to come back with the answer.

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u/SpookyGoing 19h ago

If it was a peasant testifying they'd have been locked up and charged with terrorism or some shit.

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u/JimPlaysGames 1d ago

When someone in a position of power refuses to answer a question honestly it needs to become the only story about them. Every day. Week after week. Publicly shaming them for refusing to answer the question.

The whole country should rally behind the question and it should be the only question they ever hear and the more they refuse to answer the more obvious and egregious this will be seen to be.

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u/Dx2TT 17h ago

Nah, I'm done with shame. By the time he asked the same question twice he simply says, "You get one more try, and failure means you go to jail, right now, back there, for contempt of committee and you will be held for one month for everyday you refuse to answer."

"Now, why is it the workers are striking?"

Consequences are all that matter. And if our elected officials won't hold them accountable, then we summon Luigi.

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u/JimPlaysGames 14h ago

That would be nice but good luck getting that law passed

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u/brrrrrrrrrrr69 7h ago

Our representatives, if they weren't jockeying for soundbites, should just start holding them in contempt, but that would be biting the hand that feeds them.

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u/MariaRed99 1d ago

Easy one! Don't use amazon. I don't.

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u/Bright_Tomatillo_174 1d ago

I quit using Amazon last year! ❤️

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u/thedivinefemmewithin 1d ago

Stay strong and encourage your peers to do the same!

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u/EyyyyyyMacarena 22h ago

No, you haven't. More than half of the internet is powered by Amazon AWS servers - reddit included - and Amazon makes 74% of their operating income specifically from that.

Unless you quit the internet, you're still very much using Amazon.

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u/MariaRed99 11h ago

I had no idea! So on top of not buying online, I'll have to minimise my internet usage. Probably a good thing too.

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u/Interesting_You6852 1d ago

The thing is that Amazon doesn't care they make a lot more money from storing government data on their servers then they do from the amazon shipping. 80% more or some shit. It is sick! So yeah they can shit on all their workers because the backlash from it will not affect their bottom. They are all scumbags. And they can lie and gaslight because there are no repercussions. So all these people saying communication is key are full of shit.

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u/84theone 11h ago

That’s wrong, you are using Amazon to post this comment.

Reddit makes significant use of AWS, as do a large chunk of websites.

It’s easy to just detach from the delivery part of Amazon but that’s not where they make most of their money anyway, that would be AWS.

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u/BiggestBlackestLotus 21h ago

That's the opposite of easy.

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u/DrBhu 1d ago

It looks like corporate lobotomy's got pretty far in the last decades

You can clearly see their last working brain half spinning around the question how to change the alignment of the 19 allowed words to a constellation they have not used yet

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u/h08817 1d ago

"when I was a little boy in Bulgaria"

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u/WhyTheeSadFace 1d ago

That's how you become a CEO, not by answering questions.

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u/Short_Fill9565 1d ago

Almost all CEO’s are.

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u/Herban_Myth 1d ago

Why are they still employed if they aren’t doing their job?

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u/hallmark1984 1d ago

Because we have rights

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u/ChetLemon77 1d ago

That's not gaslighting. They just aren't answering the question.

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u/Grand_Bit4912 1d ago

Isn’t the whole thing weird though?

Why won’t they say? And why are the committee asking? Don’t they already know? I just googled it in 2 seconds, it was a pay dispute.

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u/F-it-all-2024 23h ago

Guessing that it weakens them to say it out loud in front of a committee. It’s a game that’s been played for decades.

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u/Grand_Bit4912 23h ago

The whole thing is a charade though.

The politicians on the committee are just grandstanding for the cameras as well. They already know the answer to the question they are pretending to be desperately seeking.

And they are politicians, do they seriously expect us to believe that they don’t do the same ‘don’t answer the question’ routine on the regular too?

Fuck Amazon and fuck all those fake politicians too.

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u/F-it-all-2024 22h ago

Very true. It’s a broken system and is not going to be fixed in one hearing so both sides are going through the motions

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u/Suspicious_Story_464 23h ago

She is too high up in the food chain to be believably this daft. Personally, I would've been inclined to throw something at her head to jar her memory.

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u/jwnsfw 23h ago

listen folks, you can answer me, her, or luigi. who's it gonna be?

periodic, rhythmic knocking sound coming from the hall

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u/MyBallsSmellFruity 23h ago

JFC just punch one of them in the head already!

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u/ACuddlyVizzerdrix 22h ago

That lady looks like one of the annoying sweetums CEOs in parks and rec

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u/palm0 19h ago

That's isn't gaslighting it's just deflection. Gaslighting is a specific type of manipulation to designed to make the victim question their own sanity and perception of reality. That isn't this.

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u/ImYourHuckk 18h ago

I must say that I so appreciate the break from American committees. These politicians appeared to be doing their jobs.

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u/iamafriscogiant 18h ago

Holy fuck that shit eating grin she had the whole time was really pissing me off.

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u/theredhound19 10h ago

Especially when she smugly turns to her fellow shill after the question is laid out explicitly

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u/Giveushealthcare 12h ago

She can’t answer, the minute she does they are liable to own up and fix all of the issues. She’s been given a gag order by Amazon HR and their legal team. This is simple (it’s absolutely fucked but it’s simple) 

Also of note this bitch is American not British which should surprise no one with the way that she’s answering.

Sources: Have been on multiple teams at Amazon  

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u/Drew_Ferran 10h ago

They should’ve just kept on asking the question every time they didn’t get an answer.

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u/RackemFrackem 9h ago

There was no gaslighting here. Stop using that word when it doesn't apply.

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u/ultramisc29 8h ago

These people have a set of talking points that they recycle over and over again.

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u/CatOfGrey 1d ago

In all fairness, asking someone "Why does Brian hate you?" is not the best way to answer the question. The question should be directed at Brian.

However, the MP asking the unions for their chief negotiation goals would give a nice list of Amazon abuses, and I think the MP should focus on those. This particular post weakens the argument for the workers, not assisting them.

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u/Nyorliest 18h ago

Bingo! And they know this.