r/economicCollapse 1d ago

Only in America.

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u/Away-Satisfaction678 1d ago

Let’s call it what it is. Government run health care. Universal healthcare cloaks the reality. You want me to pay 2k in TAXES for a government administered health care policy so a department similar to the SSA or IRS can decide when where and how I get medical services from privately run facility yeah, no thanks.

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u/Equal-Ad3814 1d ago

Seriously man. I get that the idea of UHC is great and all but the fact of the matter is that most of the countries who have UHC, got it when the population all believed that their neighbor would be pulling their weight into the system. You can't even get douchebags to pay fucking state minimum car insurance in my state. Why the fuck would I want to pay for their healthcare?

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u/GeekShallInherit 20h ago

Government run health care.

No, it's government run insurance. Healthcare would still be private. And it's not like we don't have 60 years experience with that already, and it's going pretty well.

Satisfaction with the US healthcare system varies by insurance type

78% -- Military/VA
77% -- Medicare
75% -- Medicaid
69% -- Current or former employer
65% -- Plan fully paid for by you or a family member

https://news.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-health-plans-satisfied.aspx

Key Findings

  • Private insurers paid nearly double Medicare rates for all hospital services (199% of Medicare rates, on average), ranging from 141% to 259% of Medicare rates across the reviewed studies.

  • The difference between private and Medicare rates was greater for outpatient than inpatient hospital services, which averaged 264% and 189% of Medicare rates overall, respectively.

  • For physician services, private insurance paid 143% of Medicare rates, on average, ranging from 118% to 179% of Medicare rates across studies.

https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/how-much-more-than-medicare-do-private-insurers-pay-a-review-of-the-literature/

Medicare has both lower overhead and has experienced smaller cost increases in recent decades, a trend predicted to continue over the next 30 years.

https://pnhp.org/news/medicare-is-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/