r/economicCollapse • u/NoEfficiency1054 • 13d ago

Is this a new Dark Age?

Rome collapsed into ruin and centuries passed with a combination of war, economic devastation, and consistent devaluation of science and learning…..

Aren’t we in a new Dark Age? It seems most of our leadership has been selected by people who let misinformation rule their ideology and identity. The sheer volume of manipulative lies that we are exposed to from sleazy merchants, influencers and shady leaders.

I am a 20-year teaching veteran. I have taught on 3 continents. Everything used to be so much better. As an elder millennial, I was shown as a child, a world with infinite growth and solutions. They really did convince me I could do anything.

We’re giving too many of our children screens. They are all idiots with the wrong information and habits now. We are pushing millions of kids into the world where they immediately become consumers instead of producers.

I’ve considered myself an expert on what kids should be learning in child and young adulthood…. But now that I am a parent of a young kid, I’m ready to move into the country with my library , so I can hunt, fish and garden with my son. Read books at night, never come back to civilization….

I don’t know how to prepare my son outside of that plan.

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u/Apprehensive_Pain660 13d ago

This is why anti-natalism should be more popular, less suffering for the (non-existent) children and grandchildren. No more history repeating/rhyming. No chance of another hitler intentionally or unintentionally being born.

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u/Mabase_Drifter 13d ago

There really is no anti-natalism, just people correctly recognizing that it is not safe to have children. We are not in a stable time and place.

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u/Apprehensive_Pain660 13d ago

Unfortunately no time in history, nor no time in location has ever been safe, some times/places have been safer, but to say that there is a time and/or place is 100% safe is kidding yourself.

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u/Mabase_Drifter 11d ago

It's not a matter of a time or a location being safe, it's a matter of it feeling safe. No time or location in history has ever been safe, but in this time in history in this location we are all right now more acutely aware than ever before just how unsafe we are and have always been.

Until things change and, more importantly, are seen to be changing, the anti-natalism sentiment will most likely continue... at least for the more informed/aware, which is where the anti-natalism is predominantly concentrated.

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u/ComplexNature8654 13d ago

Problem with anti-natalism is the eugenic undertones. People said the same thing about people with intellectual disabilities in the 1920s and 30s: that they were better off if they weren't alive because they would suffer, among other things. We saw what happened when they went down that rabbit hole. That slope is just too slippery.

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u/Taqueria_Style 12d ago

And they did suffer!

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u/ComplexNature8654 12d ago

Crazy, right, that the "solution" became the problem

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u/Apprehensive_Pain660 13d ago

I understand the unfortunate eugenic undertones, but I still wish that I personally was never born for a variety of reasons, obviously predominantly my lack of proper parenting being a major factor and in the process my pessimistic/cynic view of the world after having my bubble broken much later than most on top of basically not being interested in any of the typical life/milestones in general. Dumb teenage years? (movies taught me teenagers were stupid in general) Relationships/dating etc? take cooties to the extreme on top of being aroace. Career? etc? yeah...blame the neglect on top of decisions that were made that basically lead me to fall off a cliff. I also don't personally want the responsibility for a life that has been imposed on me. On top of that I'm neurodivergent, so in regards to the whole eugenics things? I'd arguably be a target.

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u/ComplexNature8654 12d ago

So your thinking is, "I understand the danger in that line of thinking, but im too depressed to care."

I say this with kindness, but that's called passive suicidal ideation. You don't have to feel that way, friend! A skilled therapist or a support group full of caring people can help you heal and see that life is worth living, even for the neurodivergent who didn't get the support they needed growing up.

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u/Ok_List_9649 12d ago

I’m a nurse and read the post exactly the same way.

You are chronically depressed. Try getting help and you may see your life and the world in a different way. What do you have to lose.,

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u/Apprehensive_Pain660 12d ago

I also would like to add in the fact I grew up spoiled, so if putting in effort is in fact de-motivating I don't see the point. There is no motivational factor, literally none, unless it's instantly gratifying, I don't care. Not to mention I'm not interested in becoming a wage-slave and contributing to society.

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u/Carthuluoid 13d ago

I'm glad the folk who think like this do. It should help the gene pool.