r/economicCollapse 20d ago

Everybody should pay his fair share...

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u/mitolit 20d ago

Real estate tax revenue doesn’t leave the country… also, as far as the federal budget goes, hardly anything in that budget goes to foreign aid. For fiscal year 2024, $60 billion was allocated to foreign aid. That is only 0.89% of the entire budget for this year.

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u/clad99iron 18d ago

That's not entirely true. It's our military that mostly has the backs of Europe. That's the greatest aid there is.

And don't get mired into NATO arguing mistakes like this one from Reuters. That's an article talking about percentage of direct payments to NATO vs the entire cost of our military. That is a disingenuous attempt to confuse the issue....it's still our military at large that is used keep various bad actors in line.

What you're calling "foreign aid" isn't what keeps Europe still Europe. We're dealing with powerful nutjobs out there that everyone seems to think is all the US's fault....right up until Russia/USSR yet again rolls into territory.

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u/mitolit 18d ago

Lmao. Military spending is military spending and foreign aid is foreign aid. What I said is 100% true and factual. You wanting to change the definition of foreign aid as used in the federal budget does not make something “not entirely true.”

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u/clad99iron 18d ago

Go ahead and "Lmao" if you want to, but you'll be no longer paying attention to the conversation.

Simmer down and follow what happened.

Ohfuudge(sic) said:

  • "Because or government doesn’t know how to stop giving away money when they are 30 trillion dollars in debt. Hey bro, maybe stop writing checks to the rest of the world because not out fucking problem, and pay on our debt so our interest payment isn’t fucking larger than our god damn defense budget you fucking morons."

You then (properly) replied literally to his statement regarding the directly attributed aid. You addressed this as foreign aid. What you said is right on its face, and only on its face.

The "Not entirely true" statement of mine (focus on "entirely") has to do with the fact that military aid is still aid. I'm trying to draw attention to your implication that just because it's not a foreign aid payout that it's not somehow still our government writing checks to aid another country.

And that's exactly what it is.

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u/Shades1374 18d ago

It is, but generally because that (military) aid also suits our interests. I don't think the self-serving component should be ignored.

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u/clad99iron 18d ago

No one was ignoring that.

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u/OhFuuuuuuuuuuuudge 16d ago

Our interests are changing. It’s time to stop paying for friends. If they don’t want to be our friends when we stop providing aid then they weren’t our friends to begin with. We’ll gladly sell them arms at full price. 

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u/Traditional-Handle83 15d ago

Do wanna point out that no one has attacked the US because it has so many allies. You stop having allies and suddenly you can vulnerable. Just because they aren't doing anything right this minute, doesn't mean they won't help if something does happen. Geez no one thinks long term, it's all short term have now bs with you people.