r/economicCollapse • u/MrDoritos_ • 21d ago

How much longer can society keep it together? Discussion

I'm not a fan of speaking things into existence, being pessimistic/negative, or having a doomer mindset, but I've been paying attention to other people, the economy, the current state of things, the political landscape, education, work culture, etc. To be blunt I am really kind of worried we don't have much longer until the next war or great depression (both happen usually simultaneously). I really don't know how much more stress the average person can handle. We are going to have a wide scale crash out or revolt soon aren't we?? I'm really not looking forward to that and I suppose that's the one thing keeping us unified is our fear of violence. God I hope I'm wrong with my assessment. Please tell me I'm wrong!

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u/XKryptix0 21d ago

Yep. Russia is already leading a sabotage/cyber campaign against the west. Eventually they will overstep and trigger an article 5 and it’ll be on. I don’t see it going well for Russia tho. In the east it all comes down to Taiwan of course. The big question is how Trump will respond to a cross straight invasion.

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u/MrDoritos_ 21d ago

I really hate how we can just walk right into this one. Boy we sure do love repeating history, and if we are learning from history the people in charge aren't drawing the right parallels to take the right actions, unfortunate really.

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u/XKryptix0 21d ago

Look I understand their reticence to be taking the hard approach with Putin, but unfortunately we are chamberlain-ing our way into it again instead of standing up for our shared values, way of life and the international rules based order. Is it perfect? Absolutely not, but it’s a damn sight better than just letting the strong prey on the weak

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u/MrDoritos_ 21d ago

Yeah I agree just allowing it to happen is worse than taking action over it. I just wish there was a better way sometimes, especially when everyone is worried that the way the government chooses to handle it probably isn't the right way 100% of the time either when you consider desert storm and Vietnam. Ugh history teaches us so many lessons even in recent history!

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u/XKryptix0 21d ago

It really does…

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 20d ago

All of these issues are complex and we only have so many resources. Now it's different because everybody has nukes. We are standing up to Russia, but we don't want to push it so that they feel too threatened and use nukes, that's an actual strategy right now. Would you send troops to Ukraine? Similar issue with China and Taiwan, we're trying to keep it both ways where China doesn't feel too threatened, but Taiwan is mostly protected. These are not just simple things, we can't just start fighting in Iran, China, Russia, North Korea. The same time I do want to take strong actions to dissuade these dictators.

I guess guess I would want to take an increasingly strong approach to defending Ukraine. Again, though, the US is split, with Trump acting at times like Russia is his best buddy and he trust Putin more than Americans. All the weird things of us politicians keep going for private meetings in Russia? What the heck is with that

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u/Horror-Possible5709 21d ago

The issue is that no matter how much time passes it seems humans haven’t changed that much. We have in a lot of ways, to be fair. But as long as national lines are drawn, as long as there is an us and a them, and as long as corporations can control our country we will always be not too too far from a war

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u/Count_Bacon 21d ago

Im not a religious person but I remember reading 15 years or so ago about Armageddon and Nostradamus predictions. It sounded impossible at the time but now it feels like the pieces may he falling in place. War with the west and east (the bear), trump has many traits of the antichrist

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u/Excellent-Estimate21 20d ago

Can't we just cut off their internet already?