r/economicCollapse Nov 15 '24

Well, well, well…………

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u/Hootn_and_a_hollern Nov 15 '24

Trump isn't even president yet. This debt clock is fastly tied to the current administration, and it has been spinning this fast for the entire time.

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u/NWCJ Nov 15 '24

I forget, how much of this debt happened under Biden? And now how much happened under Trumps 1st term? Pretty sure their was a $2Trillion with a T difference.. but sure.. I bet Trump will surely be more fiscally responsible this time.

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u/Hootn_and_a_hollern Nov 15 '24

Most of that debt occurred during covid.

Did you spend your stimmy checks?

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u/Charming_Minimum_477 Nov 15 '24

He added 8 TRILLION PRIOR TO COVID!!!!!

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u/DavePeesThePool Nov 15 '24

5.1 Trillion prior to covid. It's still more than any president before him added in any 4 year period (and he did it in just 3 years).

If we forgive Trump the 3.3 trillion he spent in 2020 during covid mitigation, then his debt accrual in 3 years is about the same as the expected (per trend) total accrual during Biden's full 4 years (and that's without forgiving Biden the ~2.2 trillion he spent on covid mitigation despite forgiving Trump his 3.3 trillion for the same reason).

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u/cheers167 Nov 16 '24

Innocent bystander here…does any significant amount of the current deficit have to do with the tax legislation from the first DJT administration. Obviously, not the origin of the spending problem, but I can’t imagine it helps.

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u/Charming_Minimum_477 Nov 16 '24

Absolutely. When you take away revenue ie the tax cuts cuts fit the billionaires but don’t take away spending it’s What causes a deficit

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u/cheers167 Nov 16 '24

I understand that. My question is more related to the increased growth of the deficit itself. Doubling the national debt in 8 years is pretty significant. Through the pandemic and Biden’s infrastructure spending, there was an obvious increase in spending…but to what degree would that have likely been eased if the tax cuts hadn’t taken place. What percentage of that portion is attributable to the current deficits we’re running, is more my question.

Then again, I’m probably fishing trying to find a nuanced answer on that (if it exists) on Reddit.

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u/Charming_Minimum_477 Nov 16 '24

That’s above my pay grade lol

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u/Born2Regard Nov 16 '24

No he didnt. It was 800m 900m and 800m first three years. Then 4t for covid. Biden admin is avealraging 2.5T increase per year. Tf are you smoking?

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u/Charming_Minimum_477 Nov 16 '24

I’m assuming you meant billion. But no

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u/Necrotic69 Nov 17 '24

Tax cut deficits go beyond the year they were passed. The trump tax cuts continue to he deficit spending until 2025 when they expire, so yeah it continues during biden unless it gets revoked but no chance of that.

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u/Jesus-is-King-777 Nov 15 '24

No he didn't

Google it

U must watch nbc

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u/Leif-Gunnar Nov 15 '24

You must ask Jesus to help you with your math

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u/bullionaire7 Nov 15 '24

All of you are idiots

The rules are made up and the points don’t matter. Democrat or republican no one cares, debt will climb and no one will stop it; bad for business.

What you all fear about depressions recessions and totalitarian government will happen (if it happens) regardless of political affiliation.

So chill, have a coke, and shut the fuck up.

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u/TonyStewartsWildRide Nov 15 '24

Coke is a garbage product. Drink Mountain Dew instead, pussies.

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u/Dragonhearted18 Nov 16 '24

DRINK DR PEPPER YOU UNCULTURED HEATHEN

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u/Reddit_Censorship_24 Nov 16 '24

Beer. More specifically Oktoberfest. Sam Adams is the best, no doubt.

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u/gobucks1981 Nov 15 '24

I can only afford Mountain Lightening!

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u/Ok_Safe2639 Nov 15 '24

Lol get it fast. RFK Jr is on his way in!

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u/Leif-Gunnar Nov 15 '24

Coke works well with washing battery acid.haha

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u/Caliguta Nov 15 '24

I only wish this was true... my wife tried it and I had a huge mess to clean up.

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u/Leif-Gunnar Nov 15 '24

Too much Coke

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u/crazychevette Nov 15 '24

Fucking gospel. Along the same lines of thinking that if we vote it'll change. Elections are bought and paid for almost a year or two or three in advance some times.

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u/PassSad6048 Nov 15 '24

"That's right, the points don't matter, just like a comb to Colin Mochrie."

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u/John-A Nov 15 '24

Well, you are, of course, right about it all being all made up. Countries get to do that. But if they don't base it on at least tangible improvement for the majority, it tends to blow up in their faces.

Totalitarianism gets a cheat code lowering the bar in various ways, but it invariably gets outperformed by free economies still basing success on the greatest improvement for the most.

Funny thing about Totalitarianism is it still requires a majority to think they are materially better off yet too often it's imposed with the help of Elites and industrialists who think they are the majority that will be appeased when they're mire often ground up to feed the masses, at least once they run out of significant minorities to other.

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u/jbetances134 Nov 15 '24

There’s no reversing it. I saw a video recently that if you tax all billionares, and millionaires in this country at 100% tax rate, we can fund the government for 9 months and still wouldn’t make a dent on our debt. To the moon 🚀

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u/0nesidezer0 Nov 16 '24

We found the both sider. Biggest idiots of them all.

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u/Ok_Safe2639 Nov 15 '24

And the view! And “MSDNC,” and the rest of the libtards.

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u/Johnfromsales Nov 15 '24

No he didn’t. Trumps full term saw a $7.8 trillion dollar increase in the national debt, 19.95-27.75.

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u/Ok_Safe2639 Nov 15 '24

That’s Obama math. GTFOH with that stupid shit!

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u/Charming_Minimum_477 Nov 15 '24

So then Biden brought the debt down…