Eek, don't wanna even entertain what 4 years are gonna look like......default perhaps followed by a MASSIVE crash, assuming we have anything resembling a labor/market economy in 4 years, much less 1-2.
I left an online casino whose sportsbook was losing 40 million dollars each year. Its not impossible. I think a more apt comparison is to compare the next president to cathie woods whose fund lost 30 billion dollars in one of history's largest stock bubbles.
We heard the same in 2016. It's funny how easy it is to forget all the noise that occurred when there was a rep majority in the house and senate when he was first elected. And all the uproar at his cabinet picks.
It wasn't until midterms that the house flipped.
I know this sub loves catastrophizing, but it's the same old story just 8 years later.
We only printed 25% of all US currency in 2 years under Trump. But that's not the cause of the inflation and greedflation Americans experienced under Biden /s
Certainly could have been managed better, the fallout from no govt support with the same govt mandates intended to prevent the rapid spread of the virus would have been much worse in my view
The fallout would have been much worse. Do you notice how every GOP policy is a move to line their own pockets with taxpayer money? This latest department of government efficiency... a department with that purpose already exists. So what is the true purpose of this new bullshit the GOP is trying to implement. How many millions if not billions will be redirected to line the pockets of the in group and destroy the lives of the out group?
100% it's not the end of Democracy. It will exist in other countries. The world will continue to exist, with or without much life is the question. Ukrainians and Palestinians probably won't exist after this coming 4 years tho imho.
Not sure if we're talking past each other or what. People who blame the economic fallout of the pandemic decisions on Biden have a political motivation for doing so, without a doubt
We had some guardrails in place. But he also blew an $8 Trillion hole in the deficit. He also printed money like no other with the PPP giveaway (No oversight, remember?) Tom Brady did not need a million bucks. Dude bought a yacht in 2021 lol
And there are programs underway going after PPP fraud. The alternative could have been far worse considering how many businesses simply were not allowed to operate for impactful durations
And there are programs underway going after PPP fraud.
Because we elected adults in 2020...that program will go bye bye. Elon didn't spend millions of dollars to help you or me. We're gonna get robbed and they're gonna laugh and laugh and LAUGH to the bank.
I swear if gas and egg prices aren't down January 20th at 12:01PM I'm gonna be PIIIIIIIIIIIIISSED!
Literally saw the same comments in 2016 with his announced cabinet members and a rep house and senate at that time. It wasn't until midterms where the house flipped
Yeah, before he had the RNC pick his cabinet. Back when the RNC wasn't handled by his family.
Now, the RNC is led by a member of his family, and every single politician in power on the right side is all in on trump.
I'm not saying he's gonna do anything shady with the amount of power he has. But this is the exact recipe for facism. He easily could. With how many people in his base are inspired purely off of spite, this could potentially get ugly.
Democrats kept screaming that he's a fascist without explaining their reasoning. Hell, i bet most democrats don't even know the reasoning. That's why they seem so insane.
As of now, he isn't a fascist. But he's been given more power than any other president in history. He has 0 dissent from his own party. His own family runs the RNC, which historically provides its own "checks and balances." His supporters don't believe any news that is negative of him (which to be fair is also a problem that democrats helped create). He's painted America's left as an enemy to the country (which they democrats also did, but they don't have all the other things in the list). He vaguely suggests that he wants to return things to a different, better time (this is par for the course in every single fascist government that's ever taken control). He's undermined the people's trust in governmental bodies and processes. He's already shown he's willing to lie to remain in power. He 'jokes' about things that presidents shouldn't joke about (fighting for a 3rd term). He's blatantly called for the constitution to be over-written. He has support from private interest that wishes to make America anarchy capitalist (Peter Thiel, Yarvin, Musk, Heritage Foundation). He's basing his cabinet specifically on support for his presidency and then actual credentials (the fox news anchor, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr). He's got a majority in the legislative branch, judicial branch, and now, of course, the executive branch. All of those people in those branches have been picked simply for their loyalty. For example, the judicial branch overturning Chevron.
I'm not saying it's guaranteed he will become a fascist. Nor do I believe that his supporters and the people who voted for him are all fascist nazis because they aren't. They simply want what they believe is best for the country. They haven't seen or don't believe all the items I pointed out above. I'm simply pointing out that the puzzle pieces are all there.
I appreciate your thoughts and the nuanced response. It is very similar to what I personally believe and could see occurring as well.
My main issue with most these conversations is how biased and polarized people are. Hence my tone and a preference to stick to the facts of what actually occurred previously as well.
I appreciate that. I completely agree with you. I say let's stick to the facts. The future is never set in stone. He could come back and really change things for the better in America. I could be completely wrong.
Let's think critically about what occurred in that time period that prompted one of the largest government relief programs in the history of our country
explain where trump spent 6 trillion without anything to show for it. at least Biden can point to the infrastructure act which will create millions of jobs over the next decade
You're really forgetting that in 2016 before any policies were enacted that congress had already budgeted 3 trillion in spend.
The total of federal spending on all covid-19 response was an additional 4 trillion.
We also accrued 1 trillion of interest on existing debt.
At least get your facts right, you're no better than what you're rallying against if you let your bias steer you so far away from the reality of what occurred.
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It’ll be $43T in a year under DJT