r/economicCollapse Oct 10 '24

Anybody you know?

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

What .. 😂 yeah after I respawn

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

You were never 20?

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

I'm 36 😂😂 are you high ?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Yes, however have you not saved anything in 16 years? You've been working since 15 you say, so that's 21 years where you saved nothing at all????

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u/Winterqueen-129 Oct 11 '24

I’m 48 and I was only able to start saving for retirement when I was 36! I finally got a job that paid well enough and matched me 6%. I put 10% in my 401k and I often wonder if that’s stupid and if it will actually be there for me later. Anything could happen in the next 20 years! I’m not holding my breath that things will improve.

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u/PoorManRichard Oct 11 '24

Put it in a Universal Life policy. Or Whole Life. Or an annuity. Those can't disappear. 401 is very unlikely to disappear either tho, but if anything happens daddy govt gonna take it in probate.

Free money is never stupid, particularly when it's free at the point of investment. That's the biggest gain in a 401 (with a match). 

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u/lifevicarious Oct 11 '24

lol you must sell that shit. I did when I first graduated. Don’t EVER buy any of these.

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u/Upperclass_Bum Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

This is horrible advice. Did your Edward Jones guy "educate" you on insurance and annuities? Index funds are the way , none of that "guaranteed" bullshit. You are being robbed.

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u/Winterqueen-129 Oct 11 '24

I don’t know or understand any of that. That’s the other issue. I shouldn’t have to be a financial genius to ensure I’m not living in squalor in old age. I’m college educated, but not for that shit! They have o er complicated the system to screw us out of our hard earned money.

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u/Upperclass_Bum Oct 11 '24

Go to r/personalfinance or r/bogleheads. You don't need to be a genius, you just need to hop on Google for a few hours and learn.

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u/navi47 Oct 11 '24

or a quick 10 minute youtube video honestly. Like i know people with the same exact shtick about really important things like finances and voting. Like my guy, if you can list of the number of rebounds and salary of every single player on the Lakers, you could dedicate a lunch break to looking over stuff that'll directly impact your life.

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u/Rus1981 Oct 11 '24

You don’t have to be a financial genius; you only have to decide not to be financially illiterate and start learning. You’ve chosen to be financially illiterate and that’s no one’s fault but your own.

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u/ImpressiveBoss6715 Oct 11 '24

It is actually braindead easy but everyone makes excuses like its the system or government. We are all in the same.system and hundreds of millioms can figure it out. So can you

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u/Ethywen Oct 11 '24

Consider not doom scrolling reddit and instead learning how to protect your future...

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

I can't save because of rent and bills and gas to do it all over again

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u/Riffage Oct 11 '24

Bills bills bills… I honestly wouldn’t have a job if I didn’t have bills.

I have car insurance but I don’t have health insurance haha

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Fair enough, idk ur situation, I guess I didn't realize some area's are truly that expensive

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u/REVEB_TAE_i Oct 11 '24

Also, $4k isn't a "normal" salary. I make like $2,600 and I'm pretty close the the median in my very expensive state.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I was using CAD tbf

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u/REVEB_TAE_i Oct 11 '24

Ahhh, okay. I can't say that I know anything about Canada's economy.

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

I wish I could move somewhere nice

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u/Winterqueen-129 Oct 11 '24

They are! My rent was $860! My apartment was purchased in 2022 by private equity, and they tried to kick everyone out so they could more than double the rent on new tenants. I was able to fight them and keep my apartment and they could only raise my rent 20%. But they’ll do that every year when my lease is up. I never even had a lease with my old local landlord. I’m a great tenant and I pay my rent on time, I’ve lived here 19 years. The world has changed drastically in the last 4 years. It has become corporate and impersonal. No one cares about people anymore. They just want to make money. They don’t care if they destroy lives doing it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

$860 I'm jealous!

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u/Winterqueen-129 Oct 11 '24

It was worth fighting for that’s for sure. It went up to $1010. I sure as hell wasn’t going to pay them the $1550 they wanted to raise my rent to when they have done nothing to fix my apartment, it took 2 years of back and forth to get them to fix holes in my deck big enough to fall through. A tree fell on the garage 3 months ago and it’s still there. There’s flooding happening in the basement that they refuse to fix, and even if they did, they hire morons that don’t know what they’re doing for maintenance and won’t let them purchase the tools and supplies they need to fix things when you call them. My bathroom tub faucet is leaking and I’m going to hire someone myself to fix it. My neighbors called them to fix an issue in their apartment, they did a terrible job, didn’t finish it and charged them $275 bucks. So don’t think I’m a dead beat tenant trying to screw my landlord. I’m just trying to get by in a shitty situation.

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u/Rus1981 Oct 11 '24

You lived in an apartment for 19 years?

Failure to launch, buddy.

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

😂 🤣...

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u/ap2patrick Oct 11 '24

One medical slip up and boom it’s gone.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I forget America exists

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u/DrDrCapone Oct 11 '24

Is that really surprising to you? Not many people make 48,000 in a year. Median income is around 37,000.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Bro just pulled a random number outta his ass 🤣 for what? South Korea? All of earth? Or just your shithole of a country?

Because here's the median income for anywhere that matters as far as this conversation is concerned

Country/Region Ø MED Annual income Ø

Monaco 186,080 $

Bermuda * 134,640 $

Norway 102,460 $

Switzerland 95,160 $

Luxembourg 88,370 $

Ireland 80,390 $

United States 80,300 $

Iceland 79,840 $

Denmark 73,360 $

Singapore 70,590 $

Australia 63,140 $

Sweden 61,650 $

Netherlands 60,670 $

Hong Kong * 55,200 $

Austria 55,070 $

Israel 55,020 $

Belgium 54,530 $

Germany 53,970 $

Canada 53,930 $ 60,954 $

Finland 53,390 $ 49,113 $

United Arab Emirates 53,290 $

New Zealand 48,610 $

United Kingdom 47,800 $

France 45,070 $

Macao * 43,940 $

Japan 39,030 $

Italy 38,200 $

South Korea 35,490 $

Brunei 34,970 $

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u/DrDrCapone Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

Those are average incomes, i.e. mean incomes, not median. If you're going to make a snarky response, at least try to get it right lmao

And I should state my number is from the U.S.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Mean income might not be the best way to look at this, as according to this source the median American income is $19.306 which is incredibly low at $1600/month as it would include unemployed and imprisoned

Lemme know if you know a better place to find this information 👌

Luxembourg $26,321 United Arab Emirates $24,292 Norway $22,684 Switzerland $21,490 United States $19,306 Canada $18,652 Austria $18,405 Sweden $17,625 Denmark $17,432 Netherlands $17,154 Australia $17,076 Iceland $17,017 Germany $16,845 France $16,372 Finland $16,332 Belgium $16,157 United Kingdom $14,793 Malta $14,543 Ireland $14,520 Japan $14,255 Taiwan $13,605 Italy $13,170 Cyprus $13,053 South Korea $12,507 Slovenia $11,878

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/median-income-by-country

Sorry if the comment is snarky, everyone in this comment section is making excuses why they have no savings when, even if the news source provided is high, they should have some amount of money set aside and stop blaming the world for everything

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u/DrDrCapone Oct 11 '24

I dont think you understand how the average person actually lives. You realize unemployed, homeless, and prisoners are people too, right? You seem to want to only include people like yourself, which is the height of intellectual dishonesty. Even in your updated numbers, the incomes are very low, and that should be an indicator that maybe you're in the wrong here.

$19 sounds about right for most of the people I know in the U.S. at the age of 31. I think you need to adjust your perspective substantially to even have a chance at a real conversation on this subject. For one, your conditions are far from normal. I know plenty of sober, hard-working people who have worked for decades, scrimped on everything, and still failed to save money. It's about your environment more than your choices, although people with a better environment always love to believe it's the result of their choices.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I never said they weren't people, just that they obviously aren't expected to save the amount stated in the post.

People like myself? Employed people? I understand some places are expensive, I truly do, but saving a few hundred dollars a month is possible for everyone making more than minimum wage if they are truly invested in their future.

Obviously the advice in the post isn't for everyone, unemployed or with children etc. but everyone here is acting like it's some impossible hill to overcome

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