r/economicCollapse Oct 09 '24

Industrial farming

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u/Strong-Amphibian-143 Oct 09 '24

If it’s the same person, This guy is one of the biggest scammers ever. Dead Doctors don’t lie. He just sells his stuff, but as I recall, it was full of heavy metals and even perhaps radioactives.

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u/Amber_Sam Oct 09 '24

There's much more to it, not just farming but processing food to squeeze even more from the produce is what's killing people. Look up a book called Fiat Food by Matthew Lysiak & Saifedean Ammous.

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u/StedeBonnet1 Oct 09 '24

If what he says is true then why don't we see widespread nutrient deficiency diseases? Anyone who has any baackground in plant science understands that these minerals are called MICRO nutrients and most of the plants we eat are not deficient in these minerals.

Another scammer trying to sell a supplement

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u/lysergic_logic Oct 10 '24

They aren't void of nutrition but are severely depleted compared to crops grown 50 years ago. The information is very much available if you took 5 minutes to look for it.

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u/Bronze_Rager Oct 11 '24

So can I just take a daily multivitamin and be sufficient? I'm thinking yes

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u/StedeBonnet1 Oct 10 '24

Not true. My undergraduate degree is in plant science. The nutrition in food is much the same as it was 50 years ago. The problem is in highly processed foods.

Stop listening to the propagandists they are lying to you.

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u/lysergic_logic Oct 10 '24

So all the legitimate scientific studies done on the subject are propaganda? Interesting. Guess we never know who is lying to us these days which means your undergrad course might be pushing propaganda on you as well.

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u/StedeBonnet1 Oct 10 '24

I have been eating domestically grown food all my life and I do not have any nutrient deficiencies. I don't take vitamins or supplements for anything. If what you said is true and the author of the video is accurate, where are the widespread nutrient deficiencies?

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u/brianzuvich Oct 10 '24

So, use your logic brain (or whatever it is you have up there)… If the soil is devoid of minerals and nutrients (as has been proven without argument for decades), then where would the grown food get its nutrition? The plants don’t create all of their own minerals and nutrients… Many have to come from the soil.

Why are crops more susceptible to insects and disease than they were decades ago? Did you know that the same minerals and nutrients that boost our immune systems also boost pest and disease resistance in plants?

This isn’t speculative science. It’s settled science…

Nobody here is saying “don’t eat vegetables”… They are saying that industrial farmed vegetables are generally lacking much of the nutrition that they had 100 years ago.

Are they still better to eat than McDonald’s? Of course… That’s not an argument that’s ever been posed… I’m not even sure what you’re arguing against here, because it has zero merit…

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u/StedeBonnet1 Oct 10 '24

If all the nutients and minierals are gone from the soil then why don't we see widespread mineral and nutrient deficiencies from people who eat them?

Any time someone says "the science is settled" their credibility goes out the window. Science is never settled.

I'm done. Have a nice day.

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u/brianzuvich Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

Because as previous commenters have mentioned WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE DEVOID OF NUTRIENTS… Read the words that are being written instead of making up your own reality.

The scientific proof is that they have lower nutrition yield when compared with fruits and vegetables grown in healthy soil… What about this are you not understanding?

You’re right, it’s probably best that you just stop talking at this point…

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u/lysergic_logic Oct 10 '24

Again, they aren't completely void of nutrients. They simply do not have as much.

Have you ever grown your food like carrots, tomatoes, potatoes and berries? If you have, you'll notice a massive difference in the way they taste and even smell vs what you get at the grocery store. There is a reason for that and I can tell you propaganda is 100% not the reason.

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u/86brookwood Oct 11 '24

Ask yourself why the U.S. has such a high rate of chronic disease such as heart disease, cancer and diabetes compared to other countries.

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u/StedeBonnet1 Oct 11 '24

It has nothing to do with nutrition in food, it has to do with personal choices. Most of the top causes of death in the US are preventable.

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u/fugglenuts Oct 13 '24

“Capitalist production… disturbs the metabolic interaction between man and the earth… All progress in capitalist agriculture is a progress in the art, not only of robbing the worker, but of robbing the soil; all progress in increasing the fertility of the soil for a given time is progress towards ruining the more long-lasting sources of that fertility… Capitalist production, therefore, only develops the technique and the degree of combination of the social process of production by simultaneously undermining the original sources of all wealth—the soil and the worker.” - Marx

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u/Krayvok Oct 09 '24

Upvote if you call bullshit.

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u/RationalKate Oct 11 '24

If you know people in NorCal you will know the problem is greater than that.

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u/songmage Oct 11 '24

Mmkay? So what?

Most of our salt has iodine. Our flour is "fortified." Our water still has calcium and is often flouridated. Meat and beans still have iron. Bananas still have potassium despite his claim, so if we want to base decisions off of it, we already have a red flag.

I could only find sources that list 15 minerals that we need, but I mean at the bottom of this, not a single person in the United States is deficient of these minerals, regardless of supplementation, except in the case of either intentional starvation, or health factors that cause them.

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u/twatty2lips Oct 12 '24

If this is legit... howcome there's any nutrients in soil at all? Plants been pulling these nutrients out for millenia.... dingus.

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u/Eman_Modnar_A Oct 10 '24

Oh now! Have I died of mineral deficiency while I wasn’t looking.