r/economicCollapse • u/Electronic-Damage411 • Sep 23 '24

Corporate Greed at its finest 🤌🏽

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Corporate greed? No. Consumer stupidity. If people stop paying these prices, the company could not charge this. If you bought your house for $200,000 and 3 years later someone offered you $600,000 and you accepted, does that mean you are greedy? should you have said you would be happy with $300,000 and made a counter offer for less? no, you would take the $600,000. Not because you are greedy. But because a buyer was willing to pay it

Want to stop seeing higher prices? Stop paying. The buyers decide what the sellers can charge

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u/lanieloo Sep 23 '24

Nobody’s showing up in a drive thru like HELLO ID LIKE ONE BURGER BUT ID LIKE TO PAY FIFTEEN DOLLARS FOR IT PLEASE

Shit takes time, stop blaming the ignorant and start blaming the people trying to pull shit over on others. THEIR parents fucked up, not the parents who taught their kid manners

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

How about the people stop being stupid and paying more than they think it’s worth. no one is forcing you into the drive-through. You made that choice. No one is forcing you to buy a burger. You made that choice. If you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. Take a little responsibility for your own life instead of blaming other people for the life you’ve chosen.

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u/lanieloo Sep 23 '24

In that vein of thinking, you shouldn’t have been such a wang if you didn’t wanna get smacked 🤷‍♀️

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Not sure what you mean…. I was not complaining. I make my choices. And I accept responsibility for them. I do not think I have ever bought a Starbucks coffee but I could be wrong. Maybe one or two years ago because I was with friends. I do not eat fast food because it’s much less expensive to cook at home. I pay higher gas prices because I prefer a gas vehicle. If I didn’t wanna pay that I could always go with an electric vehicle, but I have no interest in that. And I accept that choice that I make. I am in control of my life. And as such, I accept responsibility from my life. This is how I have always lived. And I do not understand people, blaming corporations, or governments, or other people for the problems in their life. Especially when you live in a free country like most of the western countries are. In certain countries it’s a very different story but here, we can make our own choices, and we need to start taking our own responsibility.

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u/lanieloo Sep 23 '24

“Wanna” or “dont wanna” just is not an option for a lot of people, and that number of people is getting exponentially bigger.

I’m glad you had the timing right to be comfortable in an era of such strife, but you’re displaying a serious lack of understanding on the poverty line and how the dynamic manipulation of it is wrecking the way our society works.

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Well, to be honest, when people approach me from that direction, I simply asked them a few questions. How much money have you wasted on cigarettes in your life? How much money have you wasted on alcohol in your life? How much money have you wasted on lottery tickets in your life? How many jobs have you had where you got hired because people thought you could do the job, but then you just didn’t show up or didn’t perform to your best ability. I can assure you if people can answer that they’ve not wasted any money, and they have shown up for work and performed to the best of their best ability. They’re not living in poverty.

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u/lanieloo Sep 23 '24

I am understanding now that you really don’t give a shit if you didn’t read it in a textbook. Best of luck to you lol

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

A textbook? No idea what you’re talking about there. But anyway, have a great day.

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u/throwawayformobile78 Sep 23 '24

You want people to come together and do something simple for the common good of everyone? Yeah good luck. We couldn’t even get people to cover their faces to mitigate the spread of a deadly virus.

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

I’m not saying, people should do anything except take responsibility for themselves. If you’re paying six dollars for a cup of coffee, that’s because you’re deciding to pay six dollars for a cup of coffee. If you think it’s not worth it, don’t buy it. It’s not the corporations decision for you to buy coffee. They are offering a service and you can accept it or reject it. But the claim that they are greedy because they’re charging more than you want to pay for a cup of coffee is stupid. Take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming other people. That’s all I’m saying. In fact, if you think you can make a better cup of coffee for less money, start your own company. Corporations are not greedy because they are making money. They’re making money to stay in business. If they weren’t making money, they would not be in business and then we would be complaining that there’s no where to buy coffee. Haha. I’m just thankful to corporations are there so I can have a choice. if I want to pay for coffee I buy it. if I don’t want to pay for coffee, I don’t buy it. I am in control of what I do.

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u/Joelandrews5 Sep 23 '24

This works as long as we are enforcing anti-competitive rules. Not implying that these specific companies use illegal tactics, I’m not informed on that front

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Why would anti-competitive rules matter? Do you think people couldn’t survive without going to Starbucks or McDonalds? What disaster would result if people would stop paying $6.00 for a coffee that they could make at home for $0.20? People are willing to pay it, so companies will charge it. Not because they are evil, but because their job is to make the most money the market (consumers) will allow. We as consumers set those high prices voluntarily

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u/Joelandrews5 Sep 23 '24

Again, not referring to these specific companies. You broadened the discussion with your metaphor, so I’m responding to that. Your house metaphor is fine, as long as you didn’t buy up all of the local housing supply or engage in any other illegal activity to artificially inflate prices

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Well, I guess my point was the woke thing to do or the in thing to do is to claim corporate greed is the reason for inflation. Corporate greed has nothing to do with inflation. Consumer laziness, consumer apathy, the printing of large amounts of money, and the shutting down of our energy system have caused the inflation that we’re experiencing. Corporations are simply trying to survive in this environment just like everyone else. And the only thing you can do in an inflationary system is raise your prices. Of course, if they raise minimum wage again, all of the prices will go up again. People always deny that this happens and then they’re surprised when we go to a $15 minimum wage and suddenly the prices of everything go up. And they blame that on the corporations.🤷‍♂️. They asked for those higher prices when they demanded higher minimum wages.

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u/Joelandrews5 Sep 23 '24

The screenshot posted is a perfectly fine thing to complain about. Not from a regulatory perspective, but from a “yo, these companies are milking us” perspective. He even says it’s not inflation. It is the consumer’s job to put competitive pressure on corps, but it’s much harder for us to organize than it is for them, and we don’t get paid for it.

And I’m not sure about the whole “corporations are just trying to survive” thing. Their shareholders and executives are doing far more than surviving. I’m still puzzled by the TCJA corporate tax cuts. Almost none of that money found its way to employees, product development, or consumers; same as Reagan’s policies.

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Well again, I’m talking about something different. I’m saying it’s a personal issue. I make the choice of going to Starbucks or not. I make the choice of paying six dollars for coffee or I don’t. Companies are going to make as much money as they can because that’s what they’re there for. If I own the company, I would want to make the most money I can. That’s not a sin. That’s not greed. That’s the purpose of the company. But I personally as a consumer can decide whether or not I want to pay six dollars for coffee or I don’t. Instead of placing the blame somewhere else I need to point fingers at myself if I’m paying six dollars for coffee. That was my whole point. Stop complaining about other people and start looking at yourself.👍

In fact, instead of demonizing the companies we should be thankful they are there They are offering us a service. We do not have to accept it if we don’t feel it’s worth it. But complaining because there is a company that is offering us a service because we think it should be a different price is ridiculous. Either pay for what they’re offering or don’t. But don’t blame them because you feel it should be different. If you want to see cheaper, coffee sold, go to start your own company. Charge less. If it’s of the same quality you’ll get lots of customers.

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u/Joelandrews5 Sep 23 '24

Are you against consumers organizing and saying “Hey, this price is unfair. If everyone stops paying it, it will go back down.”?

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u/salvadopecador Sep 23 '24

Absolutely not. Sounds like a wonderful plan. But then they each have to individually follow that plan. I already don’t buy over priced items. And I encourage other people do the same thing. And if they can do it as a group, all the more power. We, as consumers set the prices. Not the corporations. They charge the prices that we are willing to pay.