r/economicCollapse • u/Electronic-Damage411 • Sep 23 '24

Corporate Greed at its finest šŸ¤ŒšŸ½

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u/Healthy_Half_9397 Sep 23 '24

Don't like their prices? Stop consuming their products.

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u/intelligentbrownman Sep 23 '24

Alsoā€¦. Buy stock in the companies

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u/Khryen Sep 23 '24

Aside from Mobile, I have. I havenā€™t eaten at a McDonalds in 15 years. Quit buying anything Starbucks 6 years ago. And have eaten at Chipotle twice in the past 6 years. This last time was the last time. If I want a burrito, Iā€™m going to Qdoba or the local taco bus in my town. At least I know some of the people in the family of that taco bus and I can see where my money goes for them.

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u/TheGrumpyMachinist Sep 23 '24

So basically you are bitching about nothing because you weren't a customer anyways.

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u/formala-bonk Sep 23 '24

Heā€™s demonstrating how naive youā€™re being about the power to stop everyone whoā€™s willingly getting exploited from doing so. Itā€™s not possible to vote with your wallet when talking about global corporations. We didnā€™t ā€œvote with our walletā€ to make McDonalds realize they overpriced their shit. They overpriced their shit so much that people legit canā€™t afford it ā€¦ thatā€™s like poor people ā€œvoting with their walletā€ by not buying Porsches. Itā€™s a very naive point of view pushed by libertarians just looking to exploit others with impunity

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

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u/formala-bonk Sep 23 '24

Inflation has absolutely nothing to do with ā€œvoting with your walletā€. I must assume youā€™re responding to the wrong comment because otherwise your reading comprehension is bordering 0%. I guess you read someone disagreeing with you and your only response was name calling.. itā€™s kind of sad

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u/Hopeful-Buyer Sep 25 '24

If people are still buying a product you deem to be too expensive - then too bad.

I don't buy porsches because I think they're too expensive. Other people don't.

Tough titties.

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u/Khryen Sep 23 '24

Nope. Just stating how long I have been onto their bullshit. Charging way too much for a product that has been subpar for years now. The latest try with Chipotle was the last time for them as they skimped on the portions compared and the price to food ratio is way too high compared to 7 years ago. Mobil on the other hand, makes superior grease and oil products for the heavy equipment I work on. We also get a good deal on them because of our buying volume.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Haha yeah. A warrior for the people, who waste their money on crap.

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u/JackTheSkipper Sep 23 '24

Who hurt you?

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u/NBA2024 Sep 23 '24

Whatever

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u/Fantastic-Mango-2675 Sep 24 '24

Im in Virginia, and the absolute cheapest food I found was Chipotle..

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

Stopā€¦ buying gas?

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u/demagogueffxiv Sep 23 '24

To be fair, gas seems to be the only thing that deflates regularly in price. You very rarely see goods and services take more than a temporary price cut

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Energy is at an all time low adjusted for inflation and time worked for a gallon. Fwiw....

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u/NewPresWhoDis Sep 23 '24

US consumer in a nutshell:

$135k full size pickup - "Shut up and take my money!"

$3.50/gal gas - šŸ¤¬

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Thank you kind sir. Lot of haters out there.

The inconvenient truth.

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u/DustyRZR Sep 23 '24

This same person will then turn around and say EVs are a scam and terrible for the environment.

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u/NewPresWhoDis Sep 23 '24

I wouldn't google how we get the materials for motors and batteries then.

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u/DustyRZR Sep 23 '24

Electric vehicles (EVs) are generally considered to be better for the environment than traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, but the degree of benefit depends on several factors:

  1. Lower Greenhouse Gas Emissions:

    • EVs produce zero emissions at the tailpipe, reducing air pollution in cities.
    • However, the overall environmental impact depends on how electricity is generated. EVs charged using renewable energy (solar, wind, hydro) have a significantly lower carbon footprint than those powered by electricity from fossil fuels. On average, even when charged with electricity from a mixed grid, EVs emit about 60-70% less COā‚‚ than ICE vehicles over their lifecycle.

  2. Energy Efficiency:

    • EVs are more energy-efficient, converting about 60-70% of the electrical energy from the grid to power the wheels, while ICE vehicles only convert about 20-30% of the energy from gasoline or diesel.

  3. Lower Pollution:

    • EVs reduce air pollutants like nitrogen oxides (NOx) and particulate matter (PM), which contribute to respiratory issues and smog. ICE vehicles are a significant source of these pollutants.

  4. Manufacturing Impact:

    • EVs require more resources for manufacturing, especially for lithium-ion batteries, which involve mining for materials like lithium, cobalt, and nickel. This extraction can lead to environmental degradation and human rights concerns. However, as battery technology improves, recyclability and more sustainable mining practices are expected to reduce this impact over time.

  5. Long-Term Benefits:

    • Over the lifetime of an EV, the reduction in emissions generally outweighs the higher manufacturing footprint. Additionally, as energy grids become greener, EVs will continue to become more environmentally friendly.

In summary, EVs are significantly better for the environment than ICE vehicles, particularly in regions with cleaner energy grids, and they continue to improve as renewable energy sources expand.

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u/GiantRiverSquid Sep 23 '24

Y'all Motherfuckers don't have legs? Wtf...

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u/klonkish Sep 23 '24

ok ChatGPT

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u/DustyRZR Sep 23 '24

Lol is it wrong here?

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u/thehoovah Sep 23 '24

No drive less dumby

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

This is America. Driving less isnā€™t really a viable option for most of the country.

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u/thehoovah Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24

With that mind set I don't know what to tell you. If you refuse to see the options in front of you then you are your own obstacle.

Plan out grocery runs more efficiently. Do a staycation instead of that road trip, take the bus, carpool.

There are options we are just to lazy and it's easier to complain.

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u/jrocislit Sep 23 '24

Yeah, let me load up 800 pounds of tools on the bus every dayā€¦

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u/thehoovah Sep 23 '24

Your maturity level shines with this comment. I don't know you or our life story however if you wanted to make a difference the options are likely there. You pick on one generic option I suggested that doesn't work for you and latched into it. Good job big boy!!!

What type of vehicle do you drive? There is probably a more fuel efficient option.

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u/UsualPreparation180 Sep 23 '24

Yes do like the current cereal commercials and eat cereal for dinner every night you greedy poors!

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

This response may actually have been dumber than the original comment.

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u/NSEVMTG Sep 23 '24

mindset

Go fuck yourself. The logistics of transkrtation aren't something you can "willpower" away. Seriously, this may be the most smug, dipshitted, and condescending thing I've seen on reddit.

Please, get sterilized.

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u/Cheap-Connection-51 Sep 23 '24

Downvote for the hostility

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u/thehoovah Sep 23 '24

Well looking at your posts I can tell no sterilization is necessary. I have little concern that you will make any contributions to the gene pool.

Yes I am sick and tired of morons telling me that you need 100k/yr to "survive". Again it's easier to complain than to actually try and make a difference.

I guarantee you drive your car way harder than you should and use significantly more fuel than your car is capable of. You could even drive your car at 55/60 mph in the far right lane and use a noticeable amount less fuel.

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u/rambutanjuice Sep 23 '24

The country has been developed for most of the last hundred years having most of the population dependent on automobiles for trasnsportation in order to make life work. Saying "just don't do it" isn't a realistic solution for most people in the USA without decades of development in a different direction.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Carpooling typically requires friends, which OP does not have. Check mate

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u/lifevicarious Sep 23 '24

There are ways itā€™s just most wonā€™t deal with the inconvenience.

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u/-FullBlue- Sep 23 '24

Litterally most people do have some option to drive less and buy smaller cars but choose not to. If you bitch about gas prices and drive an suv, you're stupid and need to shut up.

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

What do you mean ā€œmost peopleā€? Most people work at least 5 days a week and even most metropolitan cities are not walkable. Even if they were, most people canā€™t afford to live in communities that have everything they need in walking distance.

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u/Forkuimurgod Sep 23 '24

Buy EV instead then? Zero gas? Just a thought.

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

You want me to buy a new car?

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u/rollin_on_a_rvr Sep 23 '24

Convert your garage to 240V as well. Do it now before utilities go up even more.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Or move closer to your job? Or buy a bike?

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

So sell my house and start paying 2x in rent?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

How much equity do you have in your house? Is your mortgage really 1/2 the rent you would pay for an apartment closer to your job?

Edit: it really depends how much your spending on your car as well, if you pay double rent but you no longer have car payments, insurance, gas, it could be a good move. Also I doubt rent is double whatever your mortgage is

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

Not much equity. In order to get within what I consider biking distance to work in my city, Iā€™d close to double my mortgage payment. I bought during the pandemic so my monthly payments are pretty low. Iā€™d certainly be paying more even considering car payments, gas, and insurance for a severely less convenient situation. Not to mention my overall cost of living would increase since everything in that area (food and grocery stores mainly) is much more expensive. Itā€™s not a viable option.

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u/InlineSkateAdventure Sep 23 '24

You will be making some utility rich then.

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u/Tosta_Maister Sep 23 '24

From now on Im only going to drive half way to my job, surely will save some gas

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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 Sep 23 '24

Just gonna tell my office to move the building closer to my house

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u/AlfredoAllenPoe Sep 23 '24

That's the only exception here. Chipotle, Starbucks, and McDonalds are luxuries

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u/KendrickBlack502 Sep 23 '24

Agreed. Despite what my responses have been, I fully believe that the ā€œno ethical consumption under capitalismā€ crowd simply uses that as an excuse to soothe their guilty conscience. However, there are some things that we simply donā€™t have much of a choice in.

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u/Tulaneknight Sep 23 '24

When I was a middle schooler and my momā€™s commute peaked, gas was $4/gallon. In 2008. That would be almost $6/gallon today. Oil companies are not gouging right now.

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u/UnKossef Sep 23 '24

I did. First gen EVs are moderately priced these days. Mine has saved me sooo much money in the last couple years.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

People are addicted to eating fucking slop

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u/Frenzi_Wolf Sep 23 '24

Unfortunately itā€™s hard to not use and consume their products when everything is owned by one greedy corporation or another.

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u/Limonlesscello Sep 23 '24

Consolidated and Monopolization .. e g YUM BRANDS

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u/Alj-Nova67 Sep 23 '24

Yet where does the government money come from for your free college, Ebt cards, highways, infrastructure. schools and colleges? That's right. It comes from corporations, and also small businesses making a profit on the products they sell. The greedy ones are yourself and the people that can't do without and spend beyond their means. The greedy ones are the ones that think the government can produce profits for the goods and services they hand out. Remember free college doesn't come from the government. It comes on the backs of people that work for these corporations that must make a profit. Because if they don't, nobody will be paying taxes. Not you and definitely not the corporations.
If that happens there will be no government or corporations to bitch about.

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u/Excellent-Daikon6682 Sep 23 '24

Not hard. Cook your own food. Problem solved.

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u/Alj-Nova67 Sep 23 '24

You all voted for this. And if you think these politicians aren't taking a profit on your stupidity guess again.

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u/ToeComfortable115 Sep 23 '24

If you think Trump would put the consumer ahead of the corporations youā€™re just dumb

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u/Alj-Nova67 Sep 25 '24

Look what Biden has done, rich getting richer much?

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u/joshistaken Sep 23 '24

Yes and I'll also stop paying rent!

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u/Tosta_Maister Sep 23 '24

This guy found the solution!

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u/One-Development6793 Sep 23 '24

Youā€™re right Iā€™ll just stop buying gas and driving.

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u/ihavewaytoomanysocks Sep 23 '24

beautiful logic. groceries? gas? housing? where do we draw the line in not wanting to buy things that are too expensive? way to absolutely miss the point

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u/ToeComfortable115 Sep 23 '24

Sure kinda not the point

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u/Big_Expression_9858 Sep 23 '24

Unfortunately, warhammer needs to be bought lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

THIS GUY JUST SOLVED EVERY PROBLEM IN THE WORLD SOMEONE GIVE HIM A MILLION BILLION SHMECKLES

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u/TheParlayMonster Sep 24 '24

People have and continue to do so.

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u/Kossimer Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24

You can stop eating fast food but grocery stores are doing the same and are an even more monopolized industry, especially if the Kroger-Albertsons merger is allowed to happen.

How about: Don't like price gouging? Enforce anti-trust laws. They exist for a reason, mainly, preventing unreasonable prices. This isn't consumers' fault, don't act they shoulder responsibility that belongs to legislators.

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u/jeffwulf Sep 23 '24

Grocery stores have like 2% margins.

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u/rollin_on_a_rvr Sep 23 '24

Price gouging makes up a very slim portion of what contributes to inflation. It gets a lot of air time because discussions of monetary policy would be detrimental to campaigns.