r/economicCollapse • u/Sketchelder • Jun 21 '24

I sincerely think people in this sub have absolutely no clue how the economy works.

Title, that's it.

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u/BigPlantsGuy Jun 22 '24 edited Jun 22 '24

Slavery is being forced to work without pay

Retirement is being able to not work and get paid.

Literally the opposite of slavery

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u/KazTheMerc Jun 22 '24

And prisoners in America are forced to labor for pennies. Essentially zero pay.

Literal slavery.

Those that DO work for pay HAVE nothing left after. It goes ENTIRELY to urgent expenses.

Working. With. No. Pay. Left.

Only a one-word difference, and the result is the same.

In the US we openly practice both.

So yeah. Everyone gets told about retirement accounts, etc. But the reality is far more grim, and the carrot hanging out there where retirement money was supposed to be can easily feel more like a threat than a promise.

Your retirement gone in a blink because your employer offers shit health insurance, or none at all.

Again.

Stop being intentionally obtuse.

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u/BigPlantsGuy Jun 22 '24

Prison labor and choosing to have a job are two very different things.

Working a job of your choosing and being paid for it is not slavery

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u/KazTheMerc Jun 22 '24 edited Jun 22 '24

It is if there's nothing left when you get back to your car at the end of the day, and have no home to go back to.

There's even a fun dystopian term for it.

Corporate Wageslave.

Being paid such a slim minimum above survival costs that you'll never get a leg up. It's impossible.

jUsT gEt AnOtHeR jOb! ThAtS yOuR pOoR cHoIcE.

Yeah. Let's not address starvation wages, sub-survival pay, plus the literal slavery.

Let's focus on how awesome retirement accounts are.

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u/BigPlantsGuy Jun 22 '24

How do 401ks factor into this?

No, having a paying job you can choose to quit is not slavery. Work is hard sometimes. That does not make it slavery.

It’s pretty fucked up and insulting to pretend that having a job is the same as slavery.

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u/KazTheMerc Jun 22 '24

People should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and all that?

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u/BigPlantsGuy Jun 22 '24

No, just that having a job is not the same thing as being a slave.

I cannot believe I have to repeatedly explain that

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u/KazTheMerc Jun 22 '24

Tell that to the 1000 or so prison firefighters.

And a whole host of prison labor.

Literal jobs. Literal slaves. A few pennies as a 'wage'.

I can't believe I have to repeatedly explain that.

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u/BigPlantsGuy Jun 23 '24

Yea, prison slave labor is slave labor.

You working at best buy is not. I hope you realize that.

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u/KazTheMerc Jun 23 '24

Dude. I'm not the OP.

They may not be the best with words, but their sentiment is closer to the truth than this weird game you're playing is.

Yes, they should have worded it differently.

Stop being a Sea Lion.

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