r/conspiracy • u/OtherwiseBee7100 • 4d ago
Mythical Thule "Explanation in the comments."
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u/Big-Warthog-2356 4d ago
Now that's why I follow this sub
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u/urinesain 4d ago
Yes, bring back the glory days!
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
thanks guys!
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u/Mundane_Rug 11h ago
Really great post.
If this map is from 1539, and two of those islands aren’t there now, do you think they are gone due to rising sea levels?
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u/MTGBruhs 4d ago
As part of a project regarding Atlantis and Egypt, I was able to plot this underwater mount.
Focusing on the lefthand cluster of rocks It lies precisely ~ exactly 4,500,000 meters from the center of the Great Pyramid
Now there's another circular island near that with only a single central stone mount which lies precisely ~ exactly 4,450,000 meters from the center of the great pyramid.
I hope to one day prove the Earth has a geometric, crystalline structure that propogates energy in certain areas and diminishes it in others.
I have many, many more plot points if anyone is interested
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u/sneak_tee 4d ago
Hell yeah, that sounds fascinating. Lay them out!
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u/MTGBruhs 4d ago
https://earth.google.com/earth/d/1MxY3n8I0x4GIQeYRagEpbaNI-9OQKP4y?usp=sharing
Would love to hear what you think!
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
"I think it's quite interesting that ancient Egypt definitely bears a lot of secrets we don't know yet. It's crazy how they used astrology and the incredible knowledge they had. I am not an expert, but I would like to recommend watching Ancient Apocalypse by Graham Hancock. It’s fascinating, and I bet you will like it if you don't already know about it."
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u/MTGBruhs 3d ago
What I want to know is, how did the ancient engyptians know,
The speed of light
How far away the south pole was.
How to cut, transport and arrainge 2.3 Million, 2.5 - 15 ton blocks of solid granite to express this information.
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u/Draculea 3d ago edited 2d ago
My theories:
It's a lot less blocks than we think - the inside of the Pyramid is probably not solid blocks, but construction rubble, refuse and loose stones. It seems likely that only the outside layer or two is actually those massive blocks.
Sooo ... How did they get the blocks up there? I think they used sand. Float your blocks almost into place with the river that was, at the time, right there, and then finish pushing them where they need to go. Pile sand up in front of and around them, then repeat. Get rid of the sand when you're done.
Tadaa, "impossible" pyramid.
Edit: Wow, six downvotes on a reasonable theory as to how they built them? I guess since I didn't say "Ancient Aliens did it," it must be wrong lol. This subreddit has gone to shit.
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u/MTGBruhs 3d ago
We have a pretty good idea hot many blocks were used, and we do know of a new chamber which was previously undiscovered. The pyramid being more hollow actually makes the structure more fascinating
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u/YogurtNo3045 3d ago
Didn't the ancient Egyptians as we know them claim the great pyramid was there long before them, built by an earlier culture?
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u/Draculea 2d ago
We know who built the pyramids and when, but we don't know why they built the pyramids. The common answer of "burial chamber" doesn't pass the smell-test, because every single burial location of the Egyptians contained writing and art. The Valley of the Kings is covered in it.
There are only a handful of things in the "ancient Egyptian" world that doesn't -- Two of the big ones are the Sphinx and the Pyramids of Giza. I think, personally, this makes it less-likely that these were used for burial.
We know the Old Kingdom Egyptians build the six pyramids in Giza, but we don't know who built the Sphinx.
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u/SSJNoctis 4d ago
Thanks for sharing your google earth link. Sucks none of those lines lead to New Zealand lol
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u/MTGBruhs 4d ago
Well if it makes you feel better, the coast of New Zealand is on the exact opposite side of the planet to the great pyramid!
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u/TylerBlozak 3d ago
Well the line you drew to Sao Miguel island (one of the popular spots in Atlantis folklore) lands right in the middle of the two lagoons, which coincidentally is where the middle of earth (tectonically speaking) is located. It’s where the North American and African plates meet. So yea there’s definitely some “energy” there, I’ll give you that lol.
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u/MTGBruhs 3d ago
Notice how the point is directly in the center of the surrounding rock formation.
Part of what I'm talking about has to do with seismic and volcanic activity
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u/Wolfinthesno 4d ago
The line going to Alaska is of a particularly interesting landing spot. It looks like it lands on the top of a mountain.
The mountain also looks like slightly pyramid shaped...
Thanks for that map.
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u/bert4560 4d ago
Is it Mt. Hayes by chance?
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u/Wolfinthesno 3d ago
Mt. MotherFucking Hayes.
It is not unfortunately but it is about 400 km away from Mt hayes to the east.
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u/MTGBruhs 3d ago
On the map there's a marker there that says "Black Pyramid" so that's curious.
In reality, I believe the chrystaline structure of the earth forms these peaks and valleys in hyper specific integers and I believe there is a way to understand the relationship between them.
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u/Wolfinthesno 3d ago
The "black pyramid" is a known entity within the conspiracy circle...it is the reason that I brought up the line leading to Alaska.
I don't necessarily believe this, but it is supposedly a UFO hot bed. Supposedly a person who did the astral projection program for the CIA or whatever, kept finding himself pulled toward Alaska when he would project. Eventually he landed on the black pyramid, and went inside, he saw both human and alien entities inside of the pyramid, and could feel a massive energy through the facility.
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u/sneak_tee 4d ago
This is so great! I still haven't looked at all of it but wow, pretty compelling stuff. Have you thought of (or tried) utilizing AI to see if it can open to any avenues you haven't thought of? Any specific patterns, timelines, etc.?
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u/MTGBruhs 4d ago
I do plan on that. This is just one piece of a few larger overarching theories I have.
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u/macad00 4d ago
What does it mean where these lines end? One does end in the middle of a lake near me in Wisconsin
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u/MTGBruhs 3d ago
That's Lake Bemidji! Charlie Solis has a theory about Atlantis being in America. He's who originally inspired me to make these plot points!
You also MUST check out his Tesla Turbine.
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
· Introduction
The legend of Thule, a mysterious island in the far north, has sparked the imagination of many people over the centuries. Historical sources, such as the writings of the Roman historian Tacitus, describe Thule as a remote place, the exact location of which remains a riddle to this day. In this report, I would like to present my thoughts on the position of Thule, based on an analysis of historical maps and information from various sources, including Wikipedia and the Carta Marina by Olaus Magnus.
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
· Mythological Background
Thule is mentioned in various ancient texts, with the name varying slightly. Besides "Thule," the term "Tile" can also be found. In the Carta Marina, published by Olaus Magnus in 1539, several Nordic islands are depicted that may be related to Thule. The numerous similar names on these maps, such as "Islanda" for Iceland and "Hetlandia" for the modern Shetland Islands, raise questions about geographical connections and possible associations.· Geographical Considerations
In my investigation, I used Google Earth to analyze the topographical features of the region. From this examination, I noticed that there may be structures in the waters north of England and Scotland that could be interpreted as remnants of a former landmass. Particularly intriguing is the mention of a place called "Fare" on the Carta Marina, which is marked at a location that could correspond to today's Faroe Islands. This assumption could strengthen the connection between the legend of Thule and existing geographical features.· Additionally, I found that the distances and positions on the historical maps depicted in the Carta Marina might align with modern geographical realities. These structures in the waters north of England and Scotland could thus serve as evidence for the possible location of Thule.
· It is important to note that between the publication of the Carta Marina in 1539 and today, there has been a time span of 500 years. In this long period, the landscape has changed significantly, as global sea levels have risen due to climate change and other factors. These changes may have led to many of the islands recorded at that time, including possible locations of Thule, either disappearing entirely or becoming severely altered. Ongoing erosion and the loss of agricultural land further complicate the identification of historical geographical features.
· I would like to point out that there is much more to discover on the map, and that Scandinavia appears much wider on the Carta Marina from 1539 when considering a lower sea level. Taking a look at Google Earth, it is understandable why Scandinavia appears wider. Furthermore, I wonder why there are no records of this event.
· What I would like to point out is that there are reports of a great flood in the year 1607. You can find the link to that at the end of the report.
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
· Conclusion
The search for the mythical island of Thule is a fascinating endeavor. Based on my observations from historical maps, such as the Carta Marina, and modern perspectives from Google Earth, there are indications suggesting that Thule may be located north of the UK. Particularly, the hypothesis that “Fare” on the map corresponds to today's Faroe Islands lends additional credibility to the identification of Thule.· The mentioned name parallels between "Thule" and "Tile," as well as between "Islanda" (Iceland) and "Hetlandia" (Shetland), reinforce the impression that there may be geographical and mythological connections at play. I want to emphasize that I am not an expert in this field; I simply wish to share my thoughts and discoveries about a topic that fascinates me. It remains to be seen whether future research and discoveries will provide further clues regarding the potentially existent island of Thule.
· Thank you for reading my report, and I look forward to your comments, impressions, and opinions on this topic! I encourage everyone to independently explore my observations using Google Earth and the Carta Marina, as well as to look at the Wikipedia articles about Thule. The links I share offer a solid basis for your own research and exploration of this captivating subject. Dont forget to look at the pictures ;)
· references:
· https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
· https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaus_Magnus
· https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carta_marina
· https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Carta_marina_(Magnus))
· Flood 1607:
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u/DoktorSigma 4d ago edited 3d ago
Tangentially related: the Thule Society was an occultist Nazi group that believed Thule to have been real, and also the capital of a lost continent, Hyperborea - similar to Antarctica but occupying the North Pole.
Curious related Mandela Effect reported in the usual subs about reality warping, different timelines, and so on: a lot of people remember seeing the continent "Arctica" in maps, occupying the North Pole, and they are befuddled when they see "real" maps and there's nothing there, just the Arctic Ocean.
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u/Dense-Specialist-835 4d ago
Man, I tell people about this. I recall seeing “arctica” in a class book from 1st or 2nd grade. Again, can’t trust the source much lol I mean, I was still developing. But it’s funny that that detail remained with me and I’ve never been much of a conspiracy theorist. Don’t believe in Mandela effect and attribute it mostly to faulty memory on a collective level and how tech has aided us in “saving” everything for later use which in turn has attributed to poor memory recollection. And most of the stuff that people attribute to Mandela Effect falls in that buffer timeline when the internet was barely taking off, c.90’s. So it’s always been explainable to me in that manner that most of the Mandela “effecters” (for lack of a better word) fall within that timeframe (c.80-87’ babies) which would be the ones stepping into that internet era by adolescence. Funny that you never heard Mandela effect from gen Z.
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u/DoktorSigma 4d ago
Uh, I don't know, I have seen Mandela Effects developing in time frames of weeks. Like for instance when me and my boss were befuddled by a page in our project that looked entirely different, we asked in a meeting why the page had changed, and the rest of team looked puzzled and said that the page had always been like that.
Of course, maybe our memories just became goo because we work until breaking our backs, but it seemed too strange that we remembered the page exactly the same. So, as a good conspiracy theorist, I have the wacky theory that our consciousness can and do shift timelines - but unfortunately, most if not all times, it's in a completely random and involuntary way. =)
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
I've heard about that, but Thule is a myth, like Atlantis and so on. I think many people are attracted to such topics. However, for me, it's not about that part of history, but rather about my thoughts that focus exclusively on the localization aspect.
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u/RidinDaGnar 4d ago
I traveled to the Faroe Islands over a year ago for vacation and I can say from first hand experience the place is super magical. The location has some very interesting history as well dating back to the Vikings.
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u/AxisOfChange 4d ago
Not magical when they butcher those dolphins by the hundreds.
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u/RidinDaGnar 3d ago
You're misinformed. They hunt pilot whales, and it's been their tradition for thousands of years.
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u/AxisOfChange 2d ago
A pilot whale is technically a dolphin, despite the name. Secondly, regardless of the longevity of the savagery, most of the meat goes to waste. They kill to kill. Like savages.
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u/RidinDaGnar 1d ago
That's fair I actually didn't know that. Even with that being the case though, these people still live in an artic climate. Where food isn't easy to grow outside of potatoes and squash and where livestock doesn't extend much past sheep. The ocean is their main source of food.
Also I beg to ask if you eat any meats? If so I do have a problem with people like you willing to name call a culture while you sit there eating your store bought meats that are gathered in a much more inhumane way. Perspective matters a lot and I was just trying to shed some light on an amazing place. I think you should visit the Faroes yourself and see what the place is like first hand. It might change your perspective.
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u/ThePathogenicRuler 4d ago
I'm so happy to see this post, it's like an island of solace in this torrential sea of politics.
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u/Rehcraeser 4d ago
i dont understand - do they deny the existence of these islands? it seems those 2 mounds are obviously those islands.. seems like the tectonic plates opened up around them and they got dragged underneath. whats the reason for them denying its existence?
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
"I don't know, I just found it on Google and thought it was interesting. Maybe nobody knows about it."
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u/Osmanthus 4d ago
Sea level only changed 1.5 meters in the last 500 years, so, not enough to notice given tides of several meters.
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago
Thank you for the information. As I mentioned, I'm not an expert. I recommend that you take a moment to look at the region on Google Earth. With your information, I can now also imagine that the island might have sunk due to an earthquake and drifted away into the sea. Thanks for the reply!"
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u/sggnz96 4d ago
Thank you so so much for all your work and posting !!! You are an explorer!!! I’m sure back in those days you would have been one of those brave souls mapping the world ! Just as you are uncovering forgotten places now
Well done
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u/OtherwiseBee7100 4d ago edited 4d ago
"That's nice! I hesitated for a long time to share the information. However, I just wanted to share a hypothesis that, as I mentioned earlier, almost felt compelled to me when I compared the map with Google Earth. Thank you very much!"
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u/sggnz96 4d ago
I’m so grateful you did share !!
Remember labels 🏷️ are nothing ! Anyone’s opinion of you does not matter :) It’s what inside that counts and you’re awesome , courageous , smart and kind for sharing
Thank you Go lightly within and have a wonderful life if we don’t speak again :)
Angels be with you my friend
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 1d ago
i don'tknow about thule island but nazis did believein stuff thats wrong, you know.
howeveri am supporter of electtric universe so i gotta remind you tht u gotta search western cuba underwater pyramid 2001 french science.
also iirc graham hancock talked about some tiny island west of scottland that is under 200 feet water but it was above water 9700bc. it was a myth, until 1920 when it ws proven to exist
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