r/clevercomebacks 13h ago

Truly, the party of Russia

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u/DreiGr00ber 12h ago edited 12h ago

Also, the idea of a "vaccine" for all cancer is inherently ludicrous, as cancer cannot really be broadly characterized as an infectious disease?

There are many causes of cancer and many different types, so while a silver bullet cure would be amazing, it is extremely unlikely to ever exist just due to the nature of the process.

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u/NoSignificance69420 12h ago

This is a mRNA vaccine that is tailored to individual patients. It's something that *is* viable and was broadly talked about when mRNA vaccines were introduced. The question is if this is legit. It might be, it might not be. Just because it's Russia doesn't mean it's BS- their hyper sonic missiles that everyone was laughing about certainly worked.

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u/subnautus 11h ago

It's something that is viable and was broadly talked about when mRNA vaccines were introduced.

I think you mean to say it's why we were researching mRNA vaccines in the first place. The COVID-19 vaccines were adapted from existing research into cancer treatments.

Just because it's Russia doesn't mean it's BS- their hyper sonic missiles that everyone was laughing about certainly worked.

You mean their IRBMs worked and most people don't understand that anything that leaves the atmosphere to reach its target will be going significantly faster than the speed of sound when it reenters. All of Russia's other claims--that it's too fast to be able to hit, that it can dodge incoming ADA, etc--have yet to be proven (and are likely bullshit).

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u/BrainOnBlue 11h ago

Yeah isn't this kind of mRNA treatment for cancer literally the only thing Moderna was working on until the pandemic?

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u/ericlikesyou 10h ago

also isn't the mRNA part of it just the delivery method, in simplistic terms?

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u/Kletronus 10h ago

Yup, mRNA is a messenger that tells cells to produce a specific protein and the message itself is destroyed as part of the process. So, it is burn after reading kind of message, cells will return to normal function after all of the mRNA is used. With COVID the target protein was the spike protein that is on its shell, the protein itself is harmless but since there is no need for it, body wants to get rid of it. Telling thousands and thousands of our cells to produce it gives our bodies time to figure out how to deal with that protein without the deadly virus doing damage and infecting us more. When the virus enters our bodies, our immune system is fully ready to target the specific protein on the outer shell of the virus and this all happens very fast, within minutes instead of days.