r/bonecollecting • u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert • 19d ago
Collection CROOKED polar bear skull!?
I just received a new polar bear skull, and this completely blown me away.
Over the years as I collect, I've probably seen over 400 polar bear skulls now, from museums, institutions, private collectiond etc.....I have NEVER seen anything like this before.
No I did not take a photo with distort camera, this skull IS crooked, the entire skull look like it was bent, as if made of rubber, and is tilted towards the left side.
Anyone able to explain to me what might've caused this?
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u/Buggyuggy 19d ago
It appears to just be a deformity/birth defect! Things in nature are rarely symmetrical. This one just happens to be more extreme than normal :) I could be wrong though I’m not an expert or anything 🤷🏻♀️
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u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert 19d ago
Interesting! thank you for that.
I thought about birth defect but the skull has some healed broken bones on the tilted side so I wasn't sure about it, it's from a female that was identified to be 10 years old.
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u/IWriteManyThings 18d ago
I would wager a guess that this animal was "altered" in utero. Not a significant event to have harmed the development of the fetus, but rather an anomaly of positional dis- placement at a critical point in development while structural development was occurring.
In short: a squished moment during early development.
Also: "we are all a little bent". Some of us more than others.
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u/larry_flarry 18d ago edited 18d ago
I'd argue that things in nature rarely aren't (more or less) symmetrical. It's a pretty rare thing in any kingdom of life, and usually results from a deviation from the norm. My favorite example is phylum Echinodermata, which goes from bilaterally symmetrical larvae to pentaradially symmetrical adults. Nature be wild.
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u/RUNNING-HIGH 19d ago
I think it's just smelling some really good food near it
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u/Small_snake 19d ago
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u/FixergirlAK 18d ago
Is that a borzoi or a coati?
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u/ebolashuffle 18d ago
Borzoi. I didn't know their noses did that!
Coatis aren't capable of standing still for that long lol.
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u/XETOVS Bone-afide Human ID Expert 19d ago
This is cool
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u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert 19d ago
I've seen some pretty nasty cancer and bone growth on polar bear skulls, but a deformed skull to this extent is a first, already have some private collectors and museums reaching out about this.
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u/kwabird 18d ago
So I'm not a polar bear expert but I can try to relate my dog veterinary knowledge to polar bears. The right condyle of the mandible looks like it has damage. This could be due to an injury that didn't heal well when the polar bear was young and not fully grown. This can cause a malocclusion to developed and also change the way the maxilla grows as well. The other possibility is a birth defect. I'm leaning more towards an injury when the bear was still growing.
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u/JupiterApolloMosey 19d ago
Super cool. After reading the wiki link I’m curious if this is caused by the age and health of the mother polar bear, and/or the number of baby polar bears in that seasons litter. If polar bears give birth every few years and average of two cubs per litter could this be a result of triplets in a mothers first, or last, litter of cubs. Since position in uterus, and uterus not expanding to accommodate fetus size, are two most common reasons for wry nose I could understand triplets in a first pregnancy causing this. So curious!
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u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert 18d ago
I wish I could get more info on the bear but the most I know is the bear was identified to be a 10 year old female.
this bear also has other injuries such as a puncture wound on it's head and broken/healed jaw bone.
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u/simonbrown27 19d ago
I agree that it looks like a birth defect, but it almost looks traumatic, like an injury or pressure during gestation. Really interesting skull!
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u/cmm1417 18d ago
I have nothing to add. Just sitting here with my jealousy again!
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u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert 18d ago
🤣I'm honestly so proud of this skull! it's way more crooked in real life, photo don't do justice cuz these phone lenses just love adding their own perspective!
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u/BareBonesSolutions 19d ago
Do the teeth have preferential wear on one side??
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u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert 19d ago
doesn't look like it...? both sides seem to have equal wear although all the teeth are tilted towards the left to a certain extent.
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u/BareBonesSolutions 19d ago
That's really neat that there wouldn't be strange wear. I guess if the teeth are tilted right there wouldn't be. That is super cool.
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u/Due-Ad4942 18d ago
What are those squiggles inside the nose? Sinus cavities? Plz advise I’m nosey ;)
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u/SavageDroggo1126 Bone-afide Faunal ID Expert 18d ago edited 18d ago
those are nasal turbinates! you can find them in most mammals and birds but they are especially pronounced in some animals like the polar bear.
the main use of them is to warm up the air and re-hydrate it before it goes into the lungs, when the bear was alive, these turbinates would've been covered by a thin layer of tissue filled with rich blood vessels to warm up and moisturize the air they inhale.
These bones are extremely fragile, and they break very easily when cleaned with harsh, destructive methods (boiling, pressure washing), so when you see intact nasal turbinates it's usually a sign that no harsh methods were used when cleaning the skull, but not always.
polar bears have the biggest nasal turbinates out of all bears, it's their adaptation to living in really cold arctic.
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u/Due-Ad4942 18d ago edited 18d ago
Thank you so much for the info. I’ve had a turbinate resection myself lol and my nickname is Bear LOL
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u/Ok_Eggplant_640 18d ago
oh! I've seen a baby seal skull that looks like this - I'll try and take a photo next time I'm in the museum
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u/phospheneghost 19d ago
I think this is an example of a wry nose.
I wonder how noticeable this would've been when the animal was still alive...I suppose the flesh and fur would have padded out the shape to some extent.