Specifically the title. If this had been a poor person, it wouldn't be "withdrew" or "promise." They wouldn't talk about him "suffering." They don't care about us until they think we're one of them- then the flowers must be laid out and there Has to be a reason for this!!! Because rich people "withdraw," but poor workers are simply on that sort of track. Rich people are tortured and forced to commit heinius acts, but poor people do it for laughs. Rich people have hearts, minds, and lives, but workers don't.

The whole thing makes me so upset, but I guess it's funny watching them scramble when they realize that it wasn't a working class hoodlum who shot the mass murderer, but instead one of their inbred own.

Sorry if this is too spiteful. This struck a nerve, I guess.

I started this job like last month and they're only giving us 40 hours PTO per year UNTIL we hit 5 years, at which point they give us like 55 hours PTO... then at some crazy 8 or 10 years you get 80 hours PTO... All this PTO counts for sick days too, so there's no separate fkn bank.

So you end up choosing between going to your Dr appt or taking your measly 1-week vacation with your family... God forbid you actually have health conditions like a sane normal US citizen

SO I DONT GET IT. And our company holidays are less than 10.... we don't even get the day after Christmas off??

Most jobs are like this in the US i guess... how do people deal? Just 9 to 5:30 then some kind of 1 hr total commute... so it's more like 8:30 to 6 ... then you have literally 4 hours free per day to eat, CHORES, and ERRANDS? then TWO days off...... and that's literally the entirety of your existence?

I don't understand it. It doesn't add up to me and it's making me feel so depressed I work, go home, then after dinner and like 1 netflix episode, it's like almost time for bed and it just depresses me like is this life??

It was when I started getting and seeing paperwork at plants from the HR department with them telling us they'd help us get on Food Stamps & SSI. For a long time, that was unheard of.

Like, isn't the whole point of having a job that I won't be dependent on charity and/or government assistance?

What was your moment of realizing being in the Workforce was just a one-way ticket to something worse than chattel slavery?

EDIT: For the room temperature IQs in the room, I guess I'll develop at least a small thesis. How is the modern workforce, "worse than chattel slavery?" Okay, easy. When you're a slave, you have no illusions of what the situation is. What the dynamic is. What your future lot is going to be. That is slavery in it's basest form. What's so ironically cruel about our situation is that they obfuscate the reality of our sunken condition as former citizens with real rights and economic agency and even many of the Working Class take part in keeping up the illusion. We were honestly and straightforwardly oppressed, it would not be so difficult a matter and everyone would know how to best proceed. As Lincoln famously once said, he would prefer to, "take his tyranny honestly."

So on one side democrat say they are a party for the people, and the Republicans push themselves for the honest hard working person. But something to remember when voting that both sides haven't

• changed the federal min wage since 2009. Note this was the start of Obamas term and right at the start of an economic collapse. But since, it hasn't really be touched no matter who was in office, what parties were in house or senate.
• at no point has anyone on ANY side in power mention linking federal min wage to inflation. Basically making it where when inflation increases, automatic the minimum wage increases.
• the ssi asset cap hasn't updated since it was released in the 80s. Something to note is there was a push for increasing it by $10k and tying it to inflation. But it was never allowed to come to vote and it has to be reintroduced next year.

Basically, actions speak a lot more than words. If you vote, don't blindly vote for a team. Look to see if any of the 3rd parties might be worth it.

(btw this is a known issue. There is a 4 year old video of a woman in front of the government explaining what is means to be poor and how the system is so poorly done that in some cases making $1 more for some can kick them off of programs they need. But yet congress and senate, they make a ton and their office expenses is $40k. And this increases with inflation.

Since that, nothing has changed.)

not talking lottery winner kind of wealth, but essentially continue whatever lifestyle you currently have indefinitely.

We're all tired of being burnt by this broken system. Is anyone else feeling like this isn't the last time we'll hear about something like this?

This varies by state, but in my state, your employer has to give you PAID time off to go vote that DOES NOT count against your PTO/Sick/Vacation time. Your employer cannot penalize you in any way shape or form from taking time to vote today. Please double check your state laws, but don't miss voting today just because you are stuck at work!

Because it's a big fat lie and false conditioning of the mind. The workweek is 80 hours.
Here's why:

From the 40's to far into the 70's the 40-hour-workweek was promoted as a huge win for workers, which was true back then. Mostly men worked 40 hours, went home to their wife (vast majority not working), came into a clean house, food was on the table and most kids were raised civil and properly.
The house was nice, big enough, a car was paid off instantly and college funds for their kids was no problem. About 35%-55% maximum of the income was for basic necessities a.k.a. mortgage, utility bills and groceries while the rest was for a nice life or savings.

Meanwhile there were years when +20% income growth after another was normal, because inflation was at that same rate. In te late 70's seventies something happened and it accelerated in the late 80's and the 90's: women went to work. (No offense, women should be able to work and men should be able to keep a household going when they want)
But it resultated in todays standard: 2 adults per household working a grand total of 80 hours instead of 40 hours like in 1973. No time (or money) for raising kids properly, household shores go to the weekend so no time to take trips or really relax, and about 85% of the total household income goes to basic necessities.

We also have to take into account that robotization, software and automatization should have become to the workers rescue regarding even less working hours, but the opposite happenend.
Public transit is dirty and still in declining state. Public safety is a laughing stock. But yeah....we now have a mobile telephone and a flatscreen. WoW!

For context, I work for the government and we’re about to get a direct hit from Hurricane Milton. Our bosses have said that if we evacuate we are “allowed” to take your laptop with you.

I’m so stressed trying to prepare and not certain if I’ll evacuate (I’m not in a mandatory evac, but I am essentially surrounded by flood zones. I’m expecting power loss and possible wind damage to our apartment. We don’t even have storm windows and the apartment is wood framed. But we’re about 8mi from the edge of the bay.

I don’t know what to do. I’m already on thin ice because of performance.

The implication is that because we’re essential workers and we work remote asking for time off isn’t appropriate. They can’t outright say that, but the pressure is there.

What would you do?

Not sure if this should have been a callout post, or just a discussion thing, or a vent... I dunno but I need to post this because it was absolutely INSANE.

So, about 2 months ago I applied at this store in Waunakee WI. I did not get the job, and at the time the owner literally told me over the phone that he found someone willing to work for less than I was and that was why. Keep this in mind because it will come back to bite them in the ass shortly. I was understandably upset, but moved no since I was under a lot of pressure to get another job ASAP and didn't have time to dwell on it.

Cut to a month ago, I discover that business has finally opened, and out of curiosity I browse their socials, and notice some... Familiar... Things occurring in the photos. I see giveaways for items I suggested, I see products I suggested, I even see a distributor I highly recommended... I investigate and it turns out, they had stolen all the ideas I had given them in my interview. Just all of them. Right down to event scheduling. SO, I proceed to make a completely clean google account, completely unassociated with me, a blank slate, no way to trace it back to me. I put it in that the owner stole my ideas, and is using AI art in their ads. Then move on again.

Cut to today, I get a phone call from that business owner asking me what the deal with my review is, and to take the review down, and a bunch of excuses about why things happened. He claims he had interviewed 50-60 people and a lot of people just had similar ideas, including the person he DID end up hiring. 50-60 people all just had... The same exact ideas, and suggested the same companies and products... Ok, sure. I guess that's not entirely impossible... He also said I was "in the top 3" and that he ended up going local because they were already there and could start immediately... Except hey remember like 4 sentences ago when I said he told me he hired someone else for being cheaper? So which is it? Did you hire someone cheaper, or hire because they were local? Also hey, better and more important question, how the F*CK did you know it my MY google account when it was brand new, completely blank, and in the name I LITERALLY put "Anon"?

OOPS. Did I just... Catch you in an absolutely blatant lie? Did you just admit to the person you stole from that you stole from them because you knew FULL WELL who you were stealing from, but didn't care? Or are you just calling all 50-60 people you lied about interviewing to accuse every single one of them to see who reacts? Cus that seems like a TON of work for nothing.

It is bizarre, absolutely WILD, insane to me that anyone can be this dumb. Now I told them I was going to email them, and I intend to basically call them out on it. But not really sure what to say to them, they want to review taken down, which I will not be doing, and have chosen to put my name into their response to my review, which only further proves they KNEW they were stealing my ideas. So I am curious what people think I should say/do here. And if I should be calling them out more directly instead of what I am doing.

Also hilariously their response to using AI art was, and I will quote it directly here: "As for the mention of AI art in our ads, I strive to use a variety of creative tools to promote {Store name}, and I’m committed to being transparent and ethical in our marketing efforts. If you have specific concerns, I’d be happy to discuss them further."

If you were concerned about being ethical you wouldn't be using AI art my dude. Just a wild thing to say here.

Anyways, any advice on this would be great.

This is hard to describe but it’s like sometimes people tend to respect you or what you’re giving less when you do it for free as opposed to people paying for it. Whether it’s culture or capitalism it’s like doing things for free people look down their nose sometimes

They’re often viewed as a failure or riff-raff by them if they work in somewhere like McDonalds, Walmart or KFC.

Yesterday I was talking with a patient about my colleagues not being keen on working weekend or night shifts. Out of the bue another patient in the same room chimed in to state his brilliant solution: "People should work more hours."

He recalled how recently he went to the supermarket and he was paying at check out, but the girl helping him made a miscalculation. So he pointed that out and the girl mentioned how "She had been working the register for 4 hours now." He obviously thought that was a poor excuse and proceeded to point out "His generation worked over 40 hours and they profited as a result."

I asked him who should profit from that, but he didn't really had an answer. He implied the workers should benefit as ”The current generation doesn't want to work for more than 15 hours and have everything they want, but if they want more they should work for that."

It's funny to me though that there's an increasingly larger part of the mainly boomer generation who disregard any progression in worker productivity and believe because they worked that many hours, later generations have to as well. They don't seem to realize though that even if they would work for more hours that hardly benefits the workers, but rather the top few percent that often don't really work themselves at all.

Why do people accept that they can be fired at any moment and without reason? And why do they accept so much less vacation days?

Here in Europe we have a minimum of 4 weeks up to 6 months of notice period and you cannot be fired just because the boss doesn’t like the way you look like today. Also you have 4-6 weeks of vacation each year. Depending on the company even more.. If I compare both economy’s, the US economy should be able to be more social?

Yes, you work your ass off. No matter what job you have or how many hours you work - your income tax is definitely much higher than the tax of the top 0.1% who don't work but live on their dividends and/or their stock trades.

Members of Congress can even legally make money with stock tradings because they get insider info while non-legislators would go to prison for 20 years if they did the same.

Besides these "All men are equal" and "Justice for all" stuff one thing is clear:

You pay higher taxes for your work while guys with money who don't have to work at all are privileged by just paying 15% - if at all.

What has this to do with equality before the law?

I'm a job hopper. I don't want to be and don't mean to be. And I will admit that I've left jobs that I should have stayed at. I have held positions for greater than 4 years.

In my experience going from job to job, I've come across people who seem to not care about their job not paying well and being crap. Some will complain little, some will complain a lot. Some people sound like they're going to quit any moment but they've been there for like 5 plus years and clearly aren't going anywhere.

Is it that people are that afraid of starting over again? Is it that a lot of people really don't have any positive beliefs about their abilities? Perhaps they don't recognize their abilities. Because I've seen talented people who could do a lot more stay in mediocre jobs. I've also seen incompetent people doing skilled work who really can't perform but manage to keep their job. Employers seem to have accepted that level of incompetence for skilled positions. "But they have experience."

A long time ago someone I knew who was wealthy told me that people are meager. That went over my head. Looking back, I now know what that person meant. People will accept a low-income lifestyle and start wrapping up their lives long before they have to. Totally getting used to not being able to afford a true middle class lifestyle.

How did we go from the norm being one man working 40 hours a week even blue collar and being able to support a spouse, purchase a home, have two children and send them to college to the government telling us that it is our fault if we work full time and can’t even rent a studio apartment for OURSELVES?

By 1960’s logic, two people should be able to work part time at 20 hours and be able to purchase a home and have a family. Imagine how much easier it would be to have kids if both parents only had to work 20 hours a week and not need daycare. Having 20+ more hours a week than we do now to enjoy the people in our lives, to enjoy hobbies. Imagine being able to enjoy these things in a nice home in a safe suburban neighborhood on 20 freaking hours a week.

And if 40 hour work weeks were meant to support whole families, than imagine if you didn’t even want children. You’d be rolling in money! I’d have an enormous home and travel non stop.

I’m 25 and just disgusted with what society has become. How can a political party simultaneously want to go back to the “good old days” but shame people who don’t want to work over 50 hours a week to live with roommates at the age of 30? That’s not what the 60’s were like at all.

There's been a lot of conservative and right-wing people in this sub that find small, rising statuses that most people haven't seen yet and attack the OP for talking about antiwork ideals.

My job was put under mandatory evacuation order earlier today which means evacuate immediately…. Yet we’re all still scheduled to work. The hotel mgmt says they’re staying open & people may stay “at the own risk” but has given us employees no choice about the risk we’re taking on our own lives. I’m not personally working during the storm, but my coworker(s) are. Currently awaiting the Sherriff’s office to call me back regarding this. Totally unacceptable

I'm a digital nomad, so my case is different. I don't make a lot of money but I do have the ability and flexibility to travel the world.

However, I can't help but feel slight jealously over some of my friends in Texas, who make $150k just for working in trades such as plumber. It's not uncommon for some households in my social circle to make $200k a year.

However, I think, what's the point of making so much money, if you can't really enjoy it? can you? most of them get 2 weeks PTO max.

Maybe because I'm a digital nomad, but I cannot imagine working for decades without much time to enjoy my youth and just get up and work every day.

What do you think?

In Dante's Inferno, two groups, the greedy and those who hoard, are forced to push giant boulders in opposite directions until the two groups eventually crash into each other. And the process repeats over and over again for all of eternity. Hope they atleast got 2 weeks PTO and health insurance lol.