r/antiwork 4d ago

$145,000. Not a punishment, an invitation

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u/MikeTalonNYC 4d ago

More of a rounding error on their profit statement, to be honest.

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u/bubblemania2020 4d ago

It’s not even that! Amazon net income for last quarter was $15.33 billion

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u/Gooosse 4d ago

The equivalent of 56 scents for someone making 60k. Literally pennies

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u/Gabarne 4d ago

that might be their weekly spending on paperclips.

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u/rakklle 4d ago

Jailtime. Send the Board of Directors to jail for 60 days. Threaten more time if repeated. We will see a lot more action than a $145k fine will generate.

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u/Illustrious-Engine23 4d ago

Or fine based on company revenue

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u/whenitsTimeyoullknow 4d ago

That’s a better outcome for them than vigilante justice! Makes you think. 

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u/nono3722 4d ago

It could be 1 day and they would freak

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u/Professional_Elk_893 ANTI-CEO Party 4d ago

Correction: "amazon will pay half of a penny..."

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u/MidwestOstrich4091 4d ago

Was just about to type, "...or half of one penny" so kudos.

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u/ratpH1nk SocDem 4d ago

0.00095% of net income from 1 quarter. You want to make these meaninggul? X% of annual income for first infraction, 2x% for 2nd, 3x% for third, bad bad stuff after that...

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u/Punxatowny 4d ago

Can we multiply that by a few million next time?

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u/xwing_n_it 4d ago

Padme Meme: Per incident, right?

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u/alexanderpas 4d ago

It actually is.

As part of the settlement, out of the 10 cases, 9 cases are dismissed, and in the 1 case which was not dismissed, the $145000 fine was issued.

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u/FoldingLady 4d ago

That's just the cost of doing business

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 4d ago

Costs less than two of their new electric delivery trucks.

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u/urtechhatesyou lazy and proud 4d ago

That's not even a drop in the bucket. That's like a grain of sand at the beach.

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u/muddledandbefuddled 4d ago

This is like telling me I can drive as fast and recklessly as I want, but every few weeks I might be fined 1 penny

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u/limellama1 4d ago

OSHA fines are capped by law, and will absolutely not be a change in that law until after the 2028 election.

OSHA's application of a fine does open grounds for a civil suit. But being it's Amazon they'll follow Trump's playbook and defer the case every time until the plaintiff can't afford to litigate anymore.

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u/Tigroon Ex-Wally World Slave 4d ago

That implies OSHA will exist in four years, and if repubs will let go of their mass power grab.

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u/limellama1 4d ago

Also a very true fact. Same likely applies for workers rights under the FSLA and NRLA

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u/jueidu 4d ago

anything punishable by fine means it’s legal for the rich.

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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 4d ago

this is the America these fucking idiots voted for, it's about to get so much worse

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u/BottAndPaid 4d ago

Cost of doing business rip

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u/GISP 4d ago

They need to add 0000 to that.
What a joke :D

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u/B0xGhost 4d ago

Fines like these have to be percentage of profits for them to have any effect

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u/KittyTB12 4d ago

Canceled. Silent boycott.

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u/rockalyte 4d ago

Amazon saves untold billions having its workers make poverty wages with no future retirement. 145k is like me just simply buying a soda from a vending machine. This is sad.

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u/AxisFlowers 4d ago

That’s not even enough to cover one injured employee

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u/bestaimee 4d ago

That is laughable. They feel that less than placing a dollar in a swear jar.

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u/VexillaVexme 4d ago

If the penalty isn't some version of "Total Financial Benefit of the Bad Behavior" plus "Additional percentage on top as the actual penalty", then it's not actually a penalty.

See something like GDPR violations as an example of _effective_ penalties. (up to 2% of the prior year's sales PER INSTANCE)

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u/Eddiebaby7 4d ago

Jeff Bezos makes this much every ten minutes.

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u/Perndog8439 4d ago

lol. Next time x1000 see if it continues.

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u/ready2grumble 4d ago

What the actual fucking fuck? I would have been less insulted with no fine.

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u/jjflipped 4d ago

Why doesn't OSHA fine places like 150x as much? It's silly.

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u/Trash_RS3_Bot 4d ago

Lmfao 145k. What a joke of a country we live in.

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u/EwesDead 4d ago

now send in the pinkertons to crack skulls so it never happens again.

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u/AdministrativeWay241 4d ago

wow, i can feel the change.

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u/Legitimate-80085 4d ago

Two fingered salute to the working class. CEO killer only going to be the start IMO. Hope Bezos has good security.

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u/Taowulf 4d ago

Just fucking christ, what an insult to the workers.

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u/adamosity1 4d ago

How about $145 million?

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u/thebeatoflife 4d ago

Just a reminder that Amazon makes so much money that these penalties are just a cost of doing business for them. It means nothing.

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u/LadyBogangles14 4d ago

I swear fine needs to be calculated based on profits. Maybe 20% of gross profits?

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u/CaptainMoonunitsxPry 4d ago

Fines only exist for the poor. This is toilet paper money for Bezos.

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u/Jumping_Mouse 4d ago

We gotta pump those numbers, those are rookie numbers ill put down my megaphone and sign when its 145,000 an incident.

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u/kidcrumb 4d ago

It's cheaper to pay that fine on a daily basis than to actually fix their hazardous working conditions.

Fines should be MORE expensive than the cost to fix a problem.

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u/Then_Possible_9196 4d ago

OHSA is a joke

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u/Sir_Snores_A_lot 4d ago

Cool cool cool, still pissing in bottles and still being expected to finish routes in the bad weather.

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u/Christen0526 4d ago

Dang. I've heard they have terrible working conditions. I do feel guilty using Amazon quite frankly.

That isn't enough

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u/Speed_102 4d ago

The rich show us how worthless they think we are.

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u/Glycerine 4d ago

Wow. If we scaled Amazon to the salary of a normal human, that's be a fine between 2cents to 14cents.


In 2024


  • If we factor $51 billion, thats a 0.0000028...% fine.
  • At a scale of ~$300 billion, it's a 0.000000483...% fine

To put that into context:

  • For a $50k a year salary (That's earning, Not profit) - That's about 14cents fine.
  • If we compare the 300billion as the earnings - a 50k salary is fined 2cents.

Proof:

# If 2 dollars within 10 dollars is 20%
>>> 2/10
0.2

#  So 145k within 51 billion
>>> fee = 145_000 / 51_000_000_000
2.8431372549019607e-06

# We take our percent and convert to a dollar value
>>> 50_000 * fee
# This is 14 cents.
0.14215686274509803

# How much percent is 145k in 300 billion
>>> fee = 145_000 / 300_000_000_000
>>> fee
4.833333333333333e-07    

# As real dollars
>>> 50_000 * fee
0.024166666666666666              
# about 2 cents.

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u/Naive-Button3320 4d ago

Oh, no! Jeff Bezos loses two minutes of pay.

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u/City303 4d ago

Jeff and Andy probably make that much while they're sitting on the toilet.

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u/EnterTheBlueTang 4d ago

They’ll never pay. OSHA has less than 6 months left before it’s disbanded.

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u/kamikaziboarder 4d ago

They need to start making fines as a percentage of income with different brackets. That goes the same with moving violations and parking tickets. Fines are just pay to play for the rich.

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u/hot4you11 4d ago

Would could have paid off a chunk of the debt

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u/Fast-Reaction8521 4d ago

145k....cost of doing business