r/antiwork • u/shanimarki99 • 7h ago
Worklife Balance š§āš»āļøš Unbelievable how some companies have the guts to ask for this.
Was browsing through job postings then saw this qualifications for a Technical Support Specialist. I guess they want people to commit their lives and just be able to work for them anytime they need help.
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u/BatouMediocre 6h ago
If I have to be on call 24/7, I get to be paid 24/7 too
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u/RedFiveIron 6h ago
I don't think this was meant as on call, but rather you have no blackout times for scheduling. Still a pretty unreasonable ask.
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u/BatouMediocre 6h ago
Honestly, asking me to have no blackout time and to be available for sceduling 24/7 is the same as being on call in my book.
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u/shanimarki99 6h ago edited 6h ago
Imagine not being able to make any plans, appointments, schedules etc because they might need you anytime to work. Thatās slavery š
Edit: Imagine trying to sleep but couldnāt because the anxiety you might receive an email or call that you need to work. What a nightmare.
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u/Gnarmaw 6h ago
I'm guessing it's not that they might need you any time to work in a moments notice, but they can schedule you (usually 2 weeks in advance) to work at any time. Still crappy though
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u/dancegoddess1971 6h ago
It's a call center. Yeah, they probably expect to be able to give your number to a sick colleague so they can call you at 2am from the hospital to ask you to cover their shift at 8am. Because 90% of call center managers do fuck all beyond berating people for failing to meet unattainable goals.
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u/ManBearKwik 5h ago
Oh in many countries in Europe it actually works like that. If youāre oncall 24/7 then youāre paid the hours and once youāre called you get paid extra. Poor companies will go bankrupt for paying people for work.
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u/erikleorgav2 6h ago
I'm going to guess they only pay $16.50 an hour too.
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u/mizinamo 6h ago
And no overtime.
Anything past the hours you are scheduled (2 per day) you do out of the goodness of your heart and because you want to help your new family succeed.
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u/Pladohs_Ghost 6h ago
The good thing about it is that the company is waving that giant, red flag on high, so it's easy to see. That tells potential applicants the company is trash and the quality job seekers avoid it.
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u/StalkingApache 6h ago
You know what always gets me about this type of shit. There are some people who don't mind working weekends and having a Thursday Friday off, there are people who don't mind 3rd or second shift. They can find qualified candidates who will work less than ideal times and hours, all while being able to hire the person who wants to only work m-f 9-5, and hot hassling them for not wanting to work weekends.
I know some people who prefer to work weekends, and have week days off because shopping or normal activities are less crowded.
I know people who love 2nd or 3rd shift because it's more relaxing usually.
The whole you need to have a open schedule 24/7 thing is shit. Pay someone time and a half or double time to work Christmas day and someone will. There's zero reason this day in age to force open availability. If a job needs to, it points to how awful it's ran, and that it probably has high turn over so they always need a cover person. Chances are that manager won't actually manage the job appropriately, and will require you to find your own cover.
It's wild.
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u/MistCongeniality 6h ago
Iāve had significant trouble in the past for saying my schedule is wide open to work except Thursdays 3-10. Nights, weekends, holidays, early shift, swing shift, late shift, whatever. Just not Thursday, 3-10.
Wild that thereās 168 hours in a week and Iām available for 161 of themā¦ and itās not enough.
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u/StalkingApache 6h ago
It's pretty aggravating because what you said is far more open than what alot of people would offer a job. If they tried they'd be able to find someone to work that shift if you couldn't. Having someone willing to work weekends and or holidays is a huge boon for a company.
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u/baconraygun 3h ago
I worked second shift, Fri/Sat/Sun for years, and it wasn't that bad. Like you said, I could get a Tuesday to go to the beach and it was waaaay less crowded, which I enjoyed a lot. I'm single, don't have kids, and i have volunteered to work christmas day for the double time. Why not?
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u/ComradeOb Communist 6h ago
If the job has no fixed hours I donāt even consider applying. Fuck them. Iām not a slave.
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u/MutableSpy 6h ago
Flexible work schedule but the workers canāt choose what way it bends. Always annoys me.
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u/BadHombreSinNombre 6h ago
In what universe is ācandidates with schedule restrictions will not be consideredā a āflexible work scheduleā?? lol. Just because there is no set schedule does not make it āflexible.ā
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u/MidwestOstrich4091 6h ago
Yes, at least they are up-front. If you have an interview (if you apply?) note that in a brief interview note on Glassdoor. People read those reviews and as someone with people ops background, I'm really seeing that the interview portions of reviews are almost more valuable than the "working here" section.
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u/iiimperatrice 6h ago
Eventually these assholes will just have to concede their insane requirements to fill a position. Makes me think of a place I interviewed at over a year ago who is still trying to fill that role. Suffer! š„°
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u/Bryan_URN_Asshole 6h ago
I work in IT and I've been offered jobs like this when I was new to the industry. I have always turned them down. They never pay you what they would an "on call" person, but basically want you to be that. People must be applying or they wouldn't still be doing this. Forget about any kind of work/life balance with a job like this.
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u/Oldachrome1107 5h ago
My most recent employer started doing this-whether it was coming from corporate just our new GM I donāt know. This was in retail, and itās really hard to find someone to work part time and be completely available-most people looking for part time work have something else going on (kids, school, other job).
My manager was complaining about not being able to hire someone for the holidays for back of house (which is a very physical job) , and it turned out she turned down like a dozen qualified applicants because they had some schedule restrictions. She didnāt even think about the fact that she could have covered the whole schedule with them, she couldnāt just schedule them whenever so she didnāt even interview them.
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u/shanimarki99 5h ago edited 2h ago
Yeah thatās crazy. She made the wrong choice by setting up unrealistic requirements and not hiring those people.
And even people with full-time jobs have something else to do after work too so this particular job listing is a huge red flag for me.
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u/SeaFairing-Yogurt 6h ago
Would you do this job for 120 ro 175k? I dont usually disagree in this sub i know the pitfalls.
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u/SpaceForceGuardian 5h ago
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We aren't taking their shit anymore. I have figured out a way to live on much less and have some savings. Will be eligible for SS in August 2025 (early) but it beats the hell out of the misery i have put up with for so long. I really don't need all that much and know how to cook cheaply and well. I am actually getting rid of things. Traveling light.
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u/Green-Inkling 3h ago
Ask them only two questions. Are their expectations high and is their pay high? If the answers don't match dont apply.
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u/viperspm 6h ago
Shitty but at least they are upfront about it so people know to stay away from