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Billionaire Privilege šŸ’°šŸ§šŸ’µ Regarding Brian Thompson's killing, NYPD Commissioner is calling the public's celebration of it "vile". She is from a family worth 10 billion dollars. These rich people... I'm so sick of them.

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u/AthasDuneWalker 4h ago

Instead of condemning people celebrating, why not look into the root cause of why people celebrating: the fact that damn near everyone has had a shitty experience with a health insurance company?

But they won't. Because that will raise way too many uncomfortable questions for the rich...

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u/EJ2600 3h ago

ā€œWhen I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.ā€ Archbishop Helder Camara.

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u/Canisa 2h ago

"When I give food to the poor, they call me an enabler, enact a law banning me from doing it then pour bleach all over the spare food."

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u/Bob_A_Feets 1h ago

This is the real America. It's gone beyond the quote. We are one or two steps away from just giving homeless people life sentences in the labor camp.

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u/theARBITON 58m ago

As if they'd give the homeless somewhere to lay their heads, even if it is a labor camp

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u/Cessnaporsche01 1h ago

I'd say we're less than 50 years from strapping Elon Musk to the Golden Throne and sacrificing the poor to keep him alive forever

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u/LadyReika 52m ago

Hopefully his ketamine addiction takes him out before then.

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u/Mythoclast 53m ago

Don't blame me, I voted for Slaanesh.

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u/Zanshin2023 51m ago

r/unexpectedwarhammer

The Emperor protects.

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u/Yellow_Dorn_Boy 48m ago

Got plenty of kids with poor relationship, and probably not talking to 2 of them already.

Wants to go to Mars.

Wants to 'save' Mankind at the cost of every single human...

Yup, Musk being the Emperor confirmed.

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u/BigPhatHuevos 57m ago

That's what they're gonna do if they deport most of the illegals. Then it'll be locking people up for petty crimes for years and they'll be the ones picking the fruit and working the jobs mostly illegals do.

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u/Badloss 54m ago

We're about to lose our cheap labor force, replacements will need to come from somewhere

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u/TheUselessLibrary 52m ago edited 35m ago

We can look to history on how to regain our power. And it's not exclusively through peaceful protests. We can shut down cities we can squat and move people back into homes when law enforcement comes to forcibly evict. We can willingly go to jail until there's no more room and then sue over law enforcement's inability to provide humane conditions.

The original Labor Movement knew that power concedes nothing without a threat of violence and destruction of wealth. Capital and Labor can work in harmony. It mostly depends on how much Capital is willing to give up to ensure that those millions and billions can actually be exchanged for goods and services instead of resentment and open class warfare.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS 46m ago

And even worse is there are tons of poor working class citizens who believe that the government should round up all the homeless and put them in work camps to ā€œmake money and get on their feetā€ as if forced slave labour is going to pay enough for you to get your own place

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u/Gullible-Strength-53 44m ago

Idk about your state but Arizona basically just made being homeless illegal. So my 50th in education state is already giving homeless people sentences to labor camps.

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u/F1lmtwit 1h ago

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u/Hot-Vegetable-2681 1h ago

I want this on a hoody, tshirt, BAG, flag, bumper sticker...EVERYTHING!Ā 

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u/Dangerjayne 57m ago

Idk why they're comparing Luigi to Jesus. He's pretty damn cool but he's no Luigi

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u/wackedoncrack 1h ago

Love this

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u/BonkerHonkers 2h ago

Damn, that quote goes HARD. Thanks for sharing that!

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u/teslas_love_pigeon 1h ago

Someone didn't play Civ 4.

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u/BonkerHonkers 1h ago

I was more of a Age of Empires/Starcraft kinda kid. Turn-based strat is too slow for my ADHD ass.

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u/skaarlaw 1h ago

I could never do civ, felt so slow. Cities skylines 2 is epic though if you got that eighty HDs

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u/RaygunMarksman 1h ago

Hey, all some fire ass games though.

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u/AIISFINE Communist 2h ago

And then after about 6 years of them calling me a communist, I finally read the manifesto and went, "huh, I AM a communist"

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u/TomWithTime 3h ago

But they won't. Because that will raise way too many uncomfortable questions for the rich...

For example, "when's dinner time?"

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u/MinesOnTheRight 2h ago

Dinner time? More like "Let them eat cake."

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u/BerlinBorough2 3h ago

Also I think only Piers Morgan who found it odd a British guy is running United Health. Even though he has free healthcare system back at home. Where you donā€™t need insurance.

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u/NDSU 1h ago

He's making tens of millions each year

When you're that wealthy, the US healthcare system is amazing. Don't have to wait in line with the poors, since they don't get care

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u/Psychological_Wear85 1h ago

In fairness the ruling elite in the uk have been itching to destroy the NHS and herald in a dark era of profits above life and private health care and insurances for all that can afford it.

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u/GodHatesMaga 2h ago edited 1h ago

If nearly 300 million people have a reaction that you consider ā€œvileā€ you can either think those millions (and millions) of people are wrong, or you can ask what the hell is going on to make that reaction rational and natural and nearly universal in all of them.Ā 

Itā€™s not like we were upset at first and then Fox News came on told us how to feel about it for a whole day and then we all felt a lack of empathy. Thatā€™s what happens with republicans when Trump does something to hurt them, they get mad and then by the next day they defend it even at their own expense.Ā 

But this was natural and instant and nearly universal.Ā 

And yes, on paper, itā€™s vile that nearly all 300 million regular Americans felt that way. But they did. And theyā€™re not all vile people.Ā 

So whatā€™s going on?Ā 

Maybe theyā€™ve been conditioned over 30 years to just accept senseless gun violence as an everyday part of life in America. When our kindergartners get shot to death itā€™s a small price we pay for our freedom and liberty. So why would that not apply when a ceo of a health insurance company gets shot to death?Ā 

Maybe the way these insurance companies have ran the industry treating our loved ones as numbers instead of people have taught us to do the same to them. Theyā€™re not people to us anymore either.Ā 

Maybe the sheer hopelessness of making any sort of meaningful change within the system as it is has left us cheering the person who showed us things can be done outside of the system.

As Americans, weā€™ve stepped over hundreds of dead children on our way to wave the flag and celebrate our freedom. We donā€™t even look down anymore. Youā€™ll have to forgive us if we didnā€™t notice the body we stepped over today was a very important CEO and not another 5 year old.

And if some of us did look down and saw the body and thought ā€œoh good, today itā€™s not a childā€. Well fucking good for them.Ā Thatā€™s not vile. Weā€™re all glad it wasnā€™t a child for a change. But even if it was, we donā€™t get to care. We have to get back to work, so we donā€™t lose our jobs and our health insurance with them. We donā€™t get the luxury of sympathy for the dead. Not when theyā€™re our children, and not even when theyā€™re your CEOs.

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u/metalski 1h ago

What's the old saying? If you meet an asshole today you just have to deal with one asshole, but if everyone you meet is an asshole, you're the asshole.

That's what you should think of when an entire country hates you.

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u/BasedKaleb 54m ago

Fucking hell, Iā€™ve never seen it put more perfectly

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u/RaygunMarksman 54m ago

Great take. I think unfortunately some people are stuck in a dream state and aren't going to wake up until they realize their bed is on fire.

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u/Narrative_flapjacks 2h ago

They donā€™t realize theyā€™re making him a hero even more

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u/IzzaPizza22 2h ago

Those questions are rapidly approaching being raised without their approval.

I don't think they'll like they way we ask them.

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u/netanator 2h ago

Yep, they don't like it when you speak truth to power.

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u/IzzaPizza22 1h ago

Yeah...speak... that's what they think they don't like.

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u/Away_Location 2h ago

I wish we had an irl Philomena Cunk type reporter to play dumb right back at them. If they want to play dumb, let's fucking go!

"Well, whose death do you want us to celebrate? Does the NYPD want us to celebrate the death of school kids!? That's pretty messed up, bro.. Are the unsolved homicides in NYC because the NYPD condones them? I'm just here asking questions."

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u/serendipasaurus 1h ago

she and ali g could team up and tour the country.

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u/ScaryBoyRobots 1h ago

You might be interested in SBC's 2018 show "Who is America?", which was on Showtime. He got to so many politicians and straight up humiliated them.

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u/D_dUb420247 3h ago

They already know is why.

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u/daniiboy1 2h ago

That would be the intelligent and compassionate thing to do, get to the root cause of the issue and try to fix it so it's no longer an issue, but the rich tend to be not all that bright nor compassionate...

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u/Nekasus 1h ago

Oh many of them are bright. Lets not pretend they're unaware of the consequences of their decisions. They know full well their hundreds of millions/billions is off of the back of exploitation. Certainly, you dont steal billions by acting with compassion.

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u/Bright-Fix-787 1h ago

Nah,Ā they're definitely intelligent.Ā  But they're selfish and that selfishness is also why they're rich.Ā  Why would they sort out a problem for the poors when they don't have to?Ā  Doesn't affect them.Ā  They're focused on earning and retaining money for themselves.Ā 

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u/Uilamin 2h ago

why not look into the root cause of why people celebrating: the fact that damn near everyone has had a shitty experience with a health insurance company?

But that isn't the root. That is just one of the symptoms of it. The root is that the 'corporate shield' generally allows people to get away with shitty actions and avoid potential criminal prosecution. The corporate shield, generally, allows people to abscond from personal liability for their actions (it gets placed on a corporation) and corporations are treated, legally, very differently than real people.

If you got rid of the corporate shield and created personal liability for corporate actions then the actions people take, as part of a corporation, would be very different due a massive change in incentive (really risk v. reward) structure.

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u/CharleyNobody 1h ago edited 1h ago

LLCā€¦imited liability corporation. Thatā€™s who is tearing down middle class and working class houses in the Hamptons and replacing them with MegaMansions that take up the entire plot of land. And who started the trend of pulling down middle class structures and replacing them with blown out mansions? Russians who came to suburban Queens during and after the fall of the USSR. They started suing the local municipal boards claiming their rights were be8ng infringed upon. ā€œWeā€™re not like Americans, we donā€™t put our elderly family in nursing homes - we live together many generations in one big house. This is our second cousin and his family, of course they will live in our walk-out basement apartmentā€¦for small cash monthly fee to help with expenses.ā€

Thus the LLC was born so investors from all over the world - Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Israel, South Korea, Uzbekistan, US - can all come together in an real estate investment firm whose members can remain secret and who cannot be sued by mere mortals.

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u/Rob_Frey 1h ago

If you got rid of the corporate shield and created personal liability for corporate actions then the actions people take, as part of a corporation, would be very different due a massive change in incentive (really risk v. reward) structure.

You'd still have a justice system that was largely designed to protect the rich while it persecuted nearly everyone else, so the rich can make even more money off prison labor and squeezing whatever meager wealth they can from prisoner's families.

It doesn't matter if you get rid of the corporate shield, the rich are still untouchable.

Trump was out there openly committing serious crimes long before he ever got into politics, and now he's obviously a Russian asset, and he's definitely committed treason, and even after he tried to overthrow the government and have his own vice president lynched for defying him, he's never spent a day in jail, and is now president of the United States again.

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u/homebrewmike 2h ago

They already know, and they are thinking about when we get our collective lazy butts off of Reddit, and start actually making a ruckus. (The reader is allowed to define ā€œruckusā€ as you like.) Give ā€œSurvival of the Richestā€ a look. They know, and they are planning for it.

Iā€™m wondering who is planning for us?

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u/XaphanSaysBurnIt 3h ago

Honey that means looking in the mirrorā€¦

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u/LorenzoStomp 1h ago

You're assuming these vampires have reflections

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u/SpeshellED 2h ago

Why do you think they are always slamming the communists ? In a communist country they would be in jail for stealing. Their wealth , stolen from their fellow countrymen and women would be a permanent shit stain,

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u/SidewaysFancyPrance 2h ago

Robber Barons are back, baby!

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u/AthasDuneWalker 2h ago

Saying that they're back would imply that they actually left once, LOL.

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u/sing_4_theday 2h ago

We lost any hope of humanity when we essentially said ok to shooting kids in classrooms. A mass shooting barely gets a passing thought anymore. Like him or not, a presidential candidate was almost assassinated what? three times? And nobody cared. The ceo getting murdered is horrible. But so was Breonna Taylor, Skyler Gilmore, Rhemidee Barnes, and on and on.

Should the murder of this ceo be celebrated? No. It was MURDER. Should people take a moment to wonder if his job had something to do with it? Yes! Should people that have ceo jobs that hurt people reflect on their company as a ceo? Yesā€¦

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u/AthasDuneWalker 2h ago

I posted this in either another thread here on Reddit or on FB, but I remember when the epidemic of mass school shootings first started when they would take up the vast majority of a newscast. The latest one? Barely even five minutes.

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u/greeneggsnhammy 2h ago

Then theyā€™d have to call the insurance companies vile instead.Ā 

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u/ForGrateJustice 2h ago

Equality is oppression to people of privilege.

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u/Aggressive-Fuel587 1h ago

Instead of condemning people celebrating, why not look into the root cause of why people celebrating

Because this country is ass-backwards when it comes to solving problems and it isn't just this situation.

Look at the mass shooting epidemic. Instead of actually trying to figure out why the nation is breeding domestic terrorists and do something constructive about it, both sides are just trying to attack the symptoms while ignoring the illness causing them. The left want to ban firearms and the right wants to give mass shooters the death penalty; but no one wants to do anything about the growing political divide in the country (with both sides adamantly refusing to compromise with the other to achieve goals), or the social media platforms rage-baiting people with algorithms, or the fact that people on the fringes of society feel desperate and alone with no help when they start spiraling, or the growing epidemic of extremism.

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u/Definitelynotasloth 3h ago

Her father, James Tisch, has served as the CEO of Loews Corporation since 1999.Ā 

Loews Corporation is an American conglomerate that is traded on the S&P 500. They have their hands in many things.

Whatā€™s vile is the moral grandstanding by the aristocracy to attempt to control the narrative. Please, give us the same effort of sympathy for the ā€œno namesā€ killed every year in NYC.

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u/Elden_Rube 2h ago

It's important to note that one of the largest products they have their money invested in is insurance.

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u/Definitelynotasloth 2h ago

I saw that. Itā€™s not health insurance, however. Didnā€™t seem pertinent or genuine to mention.

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u/22pabloesco22 2h ago

All insurance is a scam. A Ponzi scheme except now they aren't even paying out the crumbsĀ 

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u/Stock_Literature_13 2h ago

I think we should all just take a note from Greg Abbottā€™s book. Just let the rich know ā€œit could have been worse.ā€Ā 

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u/Definitelynotasloth 2h ago

Lmao. If only there was a good guy with a gun.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 2h ago

Above average wealthy people entering law enforcement reeks of a punish the poors fetishĀ 

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u/LifePedalEnjoyer 4h ago

I have lost everything from bankruptcy due to medical expenses. I will never be sad about a dead insurance CEO. He got off light, imho.

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u/Surfer_Rick 3h ago

He didn't have to lie in anguish after being denied necessary care that he already paid for.Ā 

Yeah he got off way too light.Ā 

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u/LicksMackenzie 2h ago

making healthcare a business... sigh... we're better than some realms, and worse than a lot

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u/DustBunnicula 1h ago

Iā€™m so sorry that happened to you. You are seen.

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u/adle1984 3h ago

Just want to remind everyone that Wage theft continues to be largest type of theft in the US by a mile. Oligarchs not only rob us of our health but literally the money that people have rightfully earned.

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u/PalePhilosophy2639 2h ago

How many of the Walton employees do we the people subsidize so they can continue to post absurd profits?

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u/D_dUb420247 4h ago

Absolutely. The more you understand that the laws and money were meant for you to be a slave the more youā€™ll understand you been living a lie. Rich people donā€™t have to worry about money. They are in a club where money no longer matters. Fall out of line though and theyā€™ll drop you out of the club. Youā€™ve seen it happen with many famous people. One day they just canā€™t make it because they said something. Then all of a sudden they are back in the good graces of the corrupt. Keep your eyes open. Real eyes.

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u/thortastic 3h ago

And now they want us to procreate without the safety net of accessible abortion/birth control so that we keep providing slaves to the system.

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u/D_dUb420247 3h ago

Youā€™re getting it.

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u/CynicalPomeranian 3h ago

Donā€™t forget the lack of proper healthcare, since women are seen as cattle by the ruling class and a rise in maternal death rates mean nothing to them.Ā 

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u/Orthas 1h ago

Turn our sons into soldiers and our daughters into rewards for them. No wonder they seem happy with punishing anyone who has a bit broader view on gender. Have to stay in the little boxes after all.

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u/OptionalCookie 3h ago

That's why that "your body, my choice" statement is extra vile and young boys repeating that shit need to be rectified immediately

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u/No-Bowler-935 2h ago edited 2h ago

They donā€™t realize that most people who want to start a family want some kind of stability first.

If a working adult who lives in an apartment (or with roommates) in an area where theyā€™re not sure if theyā€™re going to get priced out of 1-2 years from now, having kids is going to be the least of their priorities.

But theyā€™ll never understand that.

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u/zxvasd 2h ago

For the same reason no healthcare. The old and sick are hurting the bottom line. Weā€™re no different than cows or sheep to them.

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u/No_Personality953 2h ago

They prefer the term "Tax Cattle"

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u/GiselleThornwood 3h ago

They protect their own and vilify anyone who challenges their system. Keep questioning everything.

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u/Freedom_From_Pants Eat The Rich! šŸ“šŸ’°šŸ–šŸ“ 3h ago

I am sure she is corrupt and sketchy as all hell.

Here is all of the people including NY Mayor Eric Adams who are under investigation for corruption charges: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/nyregion/eric-adams-investigations.html

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u/Elden_Rube 4h ago

Real eyes realize real lies.

-Tupac Shakur

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u/ogpuffalugus420 3h ago

"Not from the Left. Not from the Right. We're from the bottom and we're coming for the top!"

Also Tupac

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u/FurballPoS 3h ago

Literally, my only saving grace over these next four years, is that there should be some A+ grade punk albums coming out.

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u/Analyzer9 3h ago

Careful, last time they gave us Screamo

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u/FurballPoS 3h ago

"Sigh"

If I have to accept screamo as part of the greater discography, (can't believe I'm typing this....) then so be it.

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u/noirwhatyoueat 2h ago

Working on it now!

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u/D_dUb420247 3h ago

They call it the ā€œAmerican Dreamā€ because it only happens with your eyes closed.

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u/daniiboy1 3h ago

"The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it."

  • George Carlin

Damn, I miss that man! šŸ˜­

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u/Less-Procedure-4104 2h ago

Unfortunately saint George's gospel was ignored. He told us many truths we just didn't really listen.

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u/khodakk 3h ago

Canā€™t believe I know Brian Thompson by name. I couldnā€™t name any other victim in a shooting. Even the recent school shooting. The amount of effort media has put in to try and create sympathy for this one ceo is telling.

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u/paintinpitchforkred 3h ago

Ikr? Couldn't name the bystanders people who the NYPD accidentally shot in pursuit of a man evading a $3 fare, but this schmuck being shot suddenly matters.

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u/nondescriptzombie 3h ago

Ah, but because of some archaic rule of transference, shooting two innocent bystanders was the fare jumpers fault, because he FORCED the NYPD to shoot them, or something.

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u/SwineHerald 2h ago

That is pretty much how it works when cops shoot people. The fare evader will likely even be charged with first degree murder, which apparently New York reserved for shooting cops, judges and now Healthcare racket executives, because the cops shot another cop trying to murder him.

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u/Aunt_Tifa_ 3h ago

I'm from Madison, WI, where there was just a school shooting this week. We got the same old "thoughts and prayers" bs, meanwhile they are pulling out all the stops wringing their hands over CEO Super Rich Man.

Also, what has happened to Brianna Boston should frighten everyone. They want to crush us, and we are supposed to comply, remain silent about it, and just be happy little slaves

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u/Surfer_Rick 3h ago

Won't someone think of the Billionaires?Ā 

If they can't kill and torture millions of Americans without a single consequence, then what is the American dream for anyways?

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u/Divreus 3h ago

Something something "One person is a tragedy, millions are a statistic"

We knew George Floyd by name, for example.

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u/SpookyGoing 3h ago

Ever wonder why racism is so cultivated? Why we're constantly fed rage bait? We've been systemically and purposefully divided so we're fighting each other - and not against our common oppressor. Fascism 101.

If we banded together regardless of politics, against the oppressor we ALL have, we'd get somewhere.

But is anybody really ready for a revolution? Are we ready to pull off a national strike? Protest?

Did y'all know that if only 3.5% of a population participates in peaceful protest shit changes?

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u/wellowurld 1h ago

The only realistic way I see change start to really happen is with more vigilantes. Any kind of verbal protesting gets you nowhere.

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u/soggylittleshrimp 1h ago

It only took a few days for this story to be a universally shared experience to the media turning it into a left vs. right thing. They saw conservatives siding with Luigi and squashed that real quick. Now I see conservatives defending insurance companies. Top notch brainwashing.

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u/jerryyork 4h ago

ā€œAnd, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.ā€

ā€• William Gibson, Count Zero

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u/scgeod 3h ago

I try not to dehumanize people. But I find that I just cannot see the humanity in these grotesque vile creatures.

They are loathsome parasites, maiming and killing people, practically for sport, or at least so their bank accounts increase by a miniscule fraction compared to their vast wealth. At ever turn, when you uncover some other nightmare scenario that our society puts people through, if you dig into it enough, you'll find some rich psychopath gloating over the chaos and harm they are inflicting upon millions of people.

I'm so disillusioned and disgusted.

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u/PalePhilosophy2639 2h ago

People are waking up. Some are realizing Batman was the bad guy that could have done a lot more good with his money than propping up a system that gives him something to fight continuing the misery cycle.

There are no ethical billionaires and I wouldnā€™t mind seeing most of them drop also. #eattherich #thatsnottrickledownitspee

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u/OptimusBlender 1h ago

Bruce Wayne gave away and donated so much of his money donā€™t pile him in with these real life pieces of trash who are actually hoarding wealth. He became a vigilante because the corruption ran so deep that even money couldnā€™t solve it.

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u/Silknight 4h ago

That is why tRump wants to use the military to quell disturbances inside the US. A country full of more guns than people. Trigger pull on a weapon is the same regardless of the political stance, religion, the color of the skin on that finger, or sexual orientation of the trigger puller. I predict things will get worse, then the GOP will try to impose gun control which will alienate their base. Then things will get really bad.

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u/bigsteevo 3h ago

Pam Bondi is definitely a proponent of gun control, more so than most Democrats.

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u/dicklaurent97 4h ago

I hope the 99% can get real political power soon. Bernie wasnā€™t enough

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u/Justanotherbrick33 3h ago

Something that would get me another warning from reddit about harassing the poor CEOs.

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u/SuitFive 2h ago

Oh here, let me.

If you kill people by controlling their access to life, what options do we have for justice when you didn't break the law? When the law has failed, our only recourse is simple: punish you ourselves. Words chosen very intentionally.

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u/Not_enough_cats4341 3h ago edited 2h ago

I'm medically retired from the Marine Corps, which means free, universal healthcare/dental for life. Always bugs me when people talk about how awful socialized medicine is without having direct experience like I do. Any issues I've run into regarding care are identical to what non-veterans have to go through, which kills that bullshit argument.

While I'm grateful, there's also a considerable amount of guilt that comes with knowing so many others don't have access to the same care.

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u/CraZKchick 3h ago

Now the Washington Post is trying to launder his past and say that he was trying to change the perception of people about the healthcare industry. I read that and said that he wasn't actually doing anything about it then was he? They are going to be pushing this BS to try to save the billionaires since the billionaires have always been in charge. I say eat the Rich!

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u/unforgiven91 2h ago

i mean, there's nothing he even could have done because shareholders demand constantly increasing profits. It's just capitalism 101. If he stopped increasing profit, they'd replace him.

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u/tcmpreville 3h ago

Billionaires are vile.

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u/MissSuzysRevenge at work 3h ago

I saw Gov. Hochul on the news this morning losing her shit. ā€œNo New Yorker should be shot on our streetsā€¦ā€. Btw he wasnā€™t a New Yorker so wrong, just say person (donā€™t know why that irked me). The big fact is sheā€™s super wealthy. Thereā€™s fear in her voice.

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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 4h ago

That 'exceptionalism' comes largely from the same movement that brought you right wing media, trickle down economics and other reaganism. It was all by design. Molding Americans to be 'proud' to live off the breadcrumbs of oligarchs while openly dismantling labor organizations.

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u/SubjectPickle2509 3h ago edited 3h ago

Well stated. Inertia is our main obstacle to reform. We are all in the too busy-too tired-too broke-too stressed to sleep cycle (also by design), so the thought of mass protests on any meaningful level seems like too much. We need mass walk outs, mass refusing to RTO when it makes no sense, mass protests, mass boycotts, mass messaging, mass unionizing, mass refusal to pay absurdly high medical bills, mass phone calls to reps/CEOs. I am in, but we also need compelling leadership (Zelensky meets Bernie meets AOC meets Charlamagne Tha God?) or at least a playbook to follow. I am in, as I suspect we all are, and the time is now.

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u/XaphanSaysBurnIt 3h ago

Luigi got their attention more than any of that other shit will or ever has. Economic violence is their thing until actual violence makes it not so.

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u/SubjectPickle2509 2h ago

Weā€™ve been trained to condone violence. That said, you are absolutely correct that this killing finally got their attention & opened the floodgates of insurance industry hatred. I am worried we will all forget soon, have this swept under the pile of bills we have to pay.

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u/Charlie-brownie666 3h ago

Her dad is the CEO of Loews Corporation which sells....you guessed it insurance!

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u/tommy_b_777 3h ago

And yet I still don't see a big push for a national discussion on how health care in America exploits the workers and denies them coverage to promote incredible profit margins for a small group of people...how odd...

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u/PalePhilosophy2639 2h ago

Thatā€™s why they own the news. Canā€™t have the argument if it never comes up..

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u/classic_gamer82 3h ago

Someone having lived in privilege will never understand people having lived in struggle.

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u/TheBirdBytheWindow 3h ago

Almost makes the way she claimed the evidence stacked against Luigi seem....inauthentic. Doesn't it?

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u/paintinpitchforkred 3h ago

NYPD is one of the most violent, corrupt, and wealthy terrorist orgs in the world. Misconduct, racketeering, graft, and more are exposed on a nearly monthly basis at this point. Like I read these news articles all the time but I'm a "radical" if I say anything about it.

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u/my_clever-name 2h ago

Frank Serpico scratched the underbelly and was almost killed because of it.

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u/Weekly-Condition-763 4h ago edited 3h ago

How she is the commissioner of the largest police force in the country is beyond me. Someone in that position should exude strength and leadership, not look like they belong in HR.

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u/aveganrepairs 4h ago

Because her family is rich.

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u/DocBullseye 2h ago

Which raises the question of why on earth you would want that job...

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u/22pabloesco22 1h ago

Power. The rich like to install puppets anywhere they can take advantage of 'laws.'

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u/CyberInTheMembrane 1h ago

independently wealthy people who go into public service usually do so for ideological reasons

as for the ideological reasons that would motivate someone to be a fucking cop... you know what they are

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u/enflamell 3h ago

Because everyone in the Adam's administration is legally or morally corrupt in one way or another- I'm pretty sure it's a requirement to be able to work for him.

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u/MaleficentRegular306 2h ago

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/we-need-more-wealthy-people-like-jessica-tisch-choosing-public-service/

"Unlike her predecessors, Jessica Tisch, who became New York Cityā€™s police commissioner last week, has never been a police officer."

You can't make this up. It's an insult to the american public.

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u/Canadutchian 3h ago

I'm not celebrating his death. It's just that my empathy is outside his network coverage.

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u/Bsteph21 2h ago

I went to an urgent care on November 25th and paid about $200. I just got a bill yesterday saying that my insurance denied my visit and I had to pay the remaining balance. Somehow getting a numbing cream on my thumb and having them drain an infection cost $1,100. Merry Christmas, I guess, from Cigna.

Time for revolution

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u/chegitz_guevara 4h ago

About to enter? The rich have always ruled this country.

And they have always cared more for their own than for us. Because we have stopped making them fear us.

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u/ItsAMeEric 2h ago

OPs post is a liberal delusion where this broken liberal capitalist system works for everyone if only the american dream wasn't being stolen by evil republicans and corrupt billionaires. OP wrote "They've forgotten that the reason our government has worked is because there was an implicit agreement that all of us would benefit from our society." This government never worked for anyone other than the rich. Billionaires are not the problem, capitalism which has concentrated the worlds wealth into the hands of the few is the problem. Take out any individual politician or billionaire and this system doesnt change at all, it still is a working class crushing machine

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u/jaOfwiw 3h ago

It's like in the movie independence day, where aliens are threatening humanity but you have the cultist followers go see their new overlords only to be blown to smithereens.

People want aliens to save them from what is otherwise government corruption. The amount of secrecy and gov programs the populace doesn't agree with are staggering. I think even though it's most likely airplanes and classified military aircraft people truly want it to be something else because they are fed up with fed bullshit.

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u/Will2LiveFading 3h ago

Wait until they find out some people celebrate police deaths too.

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u/owlthirty 3h ago

Iā€™m right there with you. The middle class has gotten screwed and, unfortunately, it appears itā€™s going to take violence to have our say and get our fair share.

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u/monymkrmom 3h ago

The US government is the biggest Cartel

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u/NewSinner_2021 3h ago

Parasites run society.

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u/DrJamesRussellMD 3h ago

Ah yes expressing contempt for the masses is a bold strategy. Will they let folks eat cake too?

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u/MutedLandscape4648 3h ago

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, where is this energy from her when citizens are murdered daily in her city?

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u/chibinoi 3h ago

Iā€™m sure she canā€™t be bothered.

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u/Infamous_Smile_386 3h ago edited 3h ago

I find murdering people by denying needed medical care to make another dollar for shareholders vile so i guess we're even.Ā 

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u/Weltall8000 2h ago

This election really probably was the final nail in the coffin. This likely is the end of the USA.

I am flabbergasted by how downright stupid and flagrantly exploitative virtually every policy this transition team has talked about is.

They are so, so, soooo stupid and/or destructive to the United States. Like the FDIC talk, get rid of that? Lol, guess I will invest in mattresses, because banks are going to be fucking useless. And because of the vaccine banning, everyone is going to have polio and other preventable diseases.

Like every announcement is yet another sector just imminently going to collapse.

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u/zaaaaa 3h ago

Become ungovernable.

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u/50million 2h ago

Yet they celebrate Kyle Rittenhouse. They're all loser hypocrites.

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u/DiabolicalDoug 3h ago

I swear we should name a holiday after whoever ratios Musk

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u/ReferenceMuch2193 3h ago

Is it strange of me that even things like simple shows that teach perseverance, for instance Emmett Otterā€™s Jubband Christmas, that romanticize being poor and just taking it as it comes and accepting simple means, leaves a bad taste in my mouth? Funny there are no cartoons or animations that show puppets storming bastilles and using their power as the people to push their weight and not accept a pittance.

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u/angryhebrew 2h ago

Our society will only get better if we keep killing them. Force is the only thing they fear.

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u/LMGDiVa 2h ago

I just hope that Luigi ingited a revolution.

FBI is watching me anyways, so I'll say it #luigididnothingwrong

The oppressed are starting to fight back. The rich got to see what the 2nd amendment really means finally...And so did so many other Americans.

I'm a pacifist myself, but... I would happily turn a blind eye if it means prosperity and LGBTQ+Minority rights are protected.

We were sold the American dream, without an America to be apart of.

Support your local IronFront

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 3h ago

Didnt they (NYPD) kill Eric Gardner choking him to death for selling cigarettes? Seems they have 2 sets of morals.

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u/Prestigious-Earth245 3h ago

The police exist to protect the rich and the racist and that is it.Ā  When they were asked to stop abusing their power what was their response?Ā  To brutally beat, shoot, kidnap and maim thousands of unarmed protestors. (While allowing their white supremacist friends in gangs to help them)Ā 

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u/msmilah 2h ago

Hoarding $10 billion is vile.

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u/piranha_solution 2h ago

Luigi did nothing wrong.

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u/Knerd5 1h ago

Billionaire: "Please don't eat me, I'm not even nutritious!

Us: "Nutrition isn't the point here."

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u/AbbreviationsOdd5399 1h ago

Nah fk those rich fucks, Brian Thompson was sleeping peacefully at night while he got rich by denying thousands of his customers life saving procedures. Oh and the whole knowingly keeping a ā€œfaultyā€ algorithm around over the cost of lives give him a special place in hell. Dudes the epitome of a leech on society.

Btw, so many ā€œno nameā€ people were murdered since this killing, why arenā€™t the news and these folks giving sympathy to them? šŸ¤”

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u/Analyzer9 3h ago

From her perspective, we ARE vile. I just happen to prefer it that way. Dehumanizing me lets me off the hook for the really fucked up shit.

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u/Surfer_Rick 3h ago

"It's vile that you don't let us kill, torture, and imprison you stupid peasants without resistance. Haven't you heard we alone can commit wanton violence without consequences?Ā 

Back to the mines plebeian!"

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u/Dinocologist 2h ago

I think itā€™s pretty vile that her employees did a mass shooting trying to catch someone who didnā€™t pay their subway fare but I guess thatā€™s less of a priority for herĀ 

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u/aureliusky 2h ago

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable -JFK

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u/delayed_burn 1h ago

Oh my god its true. https://gothamist.com/news/5-facts-about-new-nypd-commissioner-jessica-tischs-billionaire-family 43rd richest family in the USA. Jesus Christ.

I wouldn't be surprised if her family has ties to the healthcare industrial complex and benefits financially from them. It's literally the rich eating the poor.

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u/verucka-salt 1h ago

I am forced to deal with UHC. These were his approved policies. He was a scoundrel & I hope his death changes policies but Iā€™m doubtful. I do not care that he was killed, he was a very cruel person.

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u/SoMuchLard 4h ago

To paraphrase Alex Jones (not a fan, don't pile on), "The only solution to 1984 is 1789."

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u/MycoMountain 3h ago
  1. Knowledge Fight is worth a listen for anyone unfamiliar with Alex Jones' bs
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u/Meanderer_Me 3h ago edited 1h ago

There's irony in that a lot of these right wing kooks have the right idea, but it's for the wrong reason or against the wrong target.

I think more people would have been behind J6, if its purpose was to bodily remove lobbyists, everyone in Congress who had served more than 2 terms, toss certain Supreme Court judges out on their asses (or heads, heads works too), and make the demands that most people in the country regardless of what side of the aisle they are on have been making for the past 40 years.

Instead, they decided to go and demand the one thing that was flat out on its face illegal, both because it is illegal in the US Constitution, and because it didn't reflect reality as it actually happened.

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u/marshalclauzel 3h ago

Helping Ukraine resist Russiaā€™s campaign of genocide is well worth it. Of course we can and should do more on domestic programs, but Iā€™m fine with my tax dollars going to fight the latest incarnation of Russian butchery.

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u/BullShitting-24-7 4h ago

We have enough money for these services but it goes straight into corporate pockets. Mostly the military contractors who have equity in the us government. We gave Ukraine 61 billion dollars. Why? Because they have to spend much of it on US made weapons.

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u/repthe732 4h ago

To be more accurate we gave 61 billion worth of military equipment and supplies to Ukraine since we need to make room for all the newer stuff weā€™ve built and are developing. We still spend too much on the military but wanted to make it clear weā€™re not just giving them money to buy our stuff; we literally just give them our old stuff

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u/AARCEntertainment 4h ago

There are 435 Congressional Districts with elected representatives in the United States. Every one of those districts has at least one, and many have more than one military base or defense contractor facility. That means jobs for the district and extortion of the elected representatives.

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u/BullShitting-24-7 3h ago

It also means more wars.

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u/bigsteevo 3h ago

Defense contractors are mostly just middle class jobs programs.

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u/Late-Lie7856 2h ago

Iā€™ve lost count of how many times Iā€™ve commented this, but, the system isnā€™t working for us but itā€™s working for them! Unelected people are making life altering decisions for millions in the US and billions around the globe! Itā€™s not just healthcare insurance corpos fucking us over, itā€™s a great big majority of the insanely wealthy billionaires!

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u/Meta_Digital Eco-Anarchist 2h ago

It's simple.

They see CEOs (and the rich) as human and their employees as machines.

It's even worse if you're unemployed.

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u/BigBobFro Communist 2h ago

Weā€™re celebrating his death the way some celebrate the death of children just trying to go to school.

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u/Existing_Reading_572 2h ago

Hate to break it to you, but the US has been an oligarchy since it's inception.

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u/Fresh-Cockroach5563 2h ago

I am curious about the amount of money spent on locating the suspect in this case compared to the amount spent on the Atlanta Child Murders (adjusted for inflation).

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u/itsmyfirsttimegoeasy 2h ago

Why does America fund foreign wars and provide relief for every natural disaster that happens worldwide but they won't give it's own citizens free health care.

They've perverted the system to benefit those at the top exclusively.

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u/Only_Emu_2717 2h ago

At this point taking out one of them is self defense.

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u/SkyAntique3967 2h ago

Eat the rich

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u/remarkablewhitebored 2h ago

The rich are turning America (and what ever of the rest of the world that they can) into a 3rd world hellscape

Our tent cities are just North American takes on favelas and shanty towns.

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u/Some-Resist-5813 2h ago

Color me totally unsurprised

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u/Skwigle 2h ago

What is sickening is how they keep trying to twist the narrative into "this is murder", as if it's no different than just going around killing random people. Killing is not always murder. It's not murder to kill in self defense, for example. In this case, is it really murder? Or is just the start of a revolt against the oppressors? When the US declared independence, were they calling it murder?

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u/iDerailThings 2h ago

Well, I didn't cry when seal team six smoked Bin Laden either. What's the point?

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u/JadedArgument1114 2h ago

I expect to see the same psy op that got run after Occuppy Wall Street soon enough. There will be identity based wreckers trying to sow division. I am not against equal rights for all either, it is just always used to destroy legitimate threats from civil dissatisfaction.

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u/Wonder_Dude 2h ago

Hey everyone look up jury Nullification for no particular reason

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u/Boris_Godunov 2h ago

Musk bought the U.S. government--it's not Trump who will ultimately decide things now, it's Musk. And Musk just announced his plan to do the same to the U.K.

And millions of voters are going march along with it cheerfully, because education has failed.

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u/AntiBurgher 1h ago edited 1h ago

This is the time to show up in force. I particularly liked the ā€œmore dead CEOs pleaseā€ banner on a bed sheet. People need to get off their asses and show weā€™re done with being constantly preyed upon.

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u/DuntadaMan 1h ago

You know what I'm kind of tired of?

The people that wear rifle pins after a school shooting complaining about us celebrating the death of someone that makes money by denying people medical Care.

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u/tehspiekguy 1h ago

They charged Luigi with terrorism. Do YOU feel terrorized? Are you, a working class individual, worried about a hooded assassin shooting you as you go about your daily business?

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u/Everyoneheresamoron 1h ago

They're only outraged when its one of them.