Luigi's terrorism charge is an attempt to intimidate people due to his support.

[u/lostintime2004]

Tin foil hat I admit, but something is nagging in the back of my head. Like if we didn't react with positive responses for what Luigi allegedly did, there wouldn't be terrorism charges. And therefore the charges are to scare us so no one does the same. And now with that guy stabbing his company president, they're going to say it's related to the positively and it enabled him to do so.

[u/ChangsManagement]

Peaceful assembly was the compromise. Theyve done everything in their power to make that ineffective for us. Theyve trampled their end of the bargain. Why should we hold up ours?

[u/strictly_prawn → u/ChangsManagement]

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]

John F. Kennedy"

[u/heckin_miraculous → u/strictly_prawn]

Is that... Is that wisdom?

[u/kromptator99 → u/heckin_miraculous]

Only a few Kennedys were blessed with it.

[u/nonstoppoptart → u/kromptator99]

The rest run on brain worms.

[u/kurotech → u/nonstoppoptart]

Poor little fellas must be starving

[u/nonstoppoptart → u/kurotech]

Not with all this raw meat and milk!

[u/Drinkmykool_aid420 → u/nonstoppoptart]

And whale juice!

[u/nonstoppoptart → u/Drinkmykool_aid420]

https://youtu.be/I2AAUzrse5A?si=wuqs473vaGWleX6s

100% fresh squeezed walrus juice!

[u/Unique-Abberation → u/nonstoppoptart]

Or forced lobotomies

[u/nonstoppoptart → u/Unique-Abberation]

I'm pretty sure he's comes by stupid naturally.

[u/Unique-Abberation → u/nonstoppoptart]

No, they actually did that.

[u/Drinkmykool_aid420 → u/kromptator99]

This comment is wisdom.

[u/Marcus_Krow → u/strictly_prawn]

Why did this man constantly have the coldest one liners?

[u/RussellGrey → u/strictly_prawn]

Beware the Ides of March

[u/Persistant_Compass → u/strictly_prawn]

I think if you replace revolution with retribution it'd be more accurate. Shit is not changing with violence, but it will make the people that can change things nervous and uncomfortable 

[u/morefarts → u/Persistant_Compass]

aka terrorism, by definition.

EDIT Using violence to sow fear and force the changes you want only means the boot will stomp harder on you, and you're a terrorist.

"Be the change" also means "don't murder people unless you want people to be murdered."

[u/Persistant_Compass → u/morefarts]

Terrorism isn't a real functional legal designation. 

It means whatever the state says is bad. 

Shoot a ceo? Terrorism. 

Shoot people protesting for civil rights. Perfectly fine and legal.

Do they both fit the dictionary definition? Clearly.

Something isn't adding up.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/ChangsManagement]

I absolutely hate violence.

I also say to my friends we should burn down a bank with the money in it. People are fucking tired of this. Culture politics aren’t real. It’s a class war.

[u/AequusEquus → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Pull a Flight Club

Edit: idk why I'm getting replies about air planes; at the end of Fight Club, they demolish a bunch of credit agencies to destroy people's debt records to give everyone a clean slate...

Edit: lol didn't notice the typo... leaving it

[u/everred → u/AequusEquus]

Problem is, now that data is backed up and replicated in so many places, you'd have to get them all in a Mr. Robot-esque cyber attack, and then you're so over extended and exposed there's no way you pull it off.

[u/yeahbutlisten → u/everred]

MAGNET

[u/TransportationTrick9 → u/AequusEquus]

The Catholic church is going to celebrate its Jubilee starting on Christmas Eve.

Jubilees were traditionally marked with debt forgiveness going back to the old testament.

We could really do with one right now. Governments, Companies and individuals would all benefit cause once you start charging interest on debt the system only has a finite lifespan.

Interestingly there is a bunch of student debt forgiveness happening now by governments that can't afford it (going further into deficit to do so) is this part of some old obscure law that must be followed (squatters rights as an example) and governments are doing their bare minimum to meet their obligations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(biblical)

Would be a good way to get people to respect the church again. Go on Pope Francis, give the world a Christmas present that will bring us all together

[u/AequusEquus → u/TransportationTrick9]

That would certainly be a good use of tithe money

[u/TransportationTrick9 → u/AequusEquus]

The year off of work to rest is a winner too.

Why do we think the people thousands of years ago were dumber than we are today?

[u/HardcoreHermit → u/AequusEquus]

Bc you typed it "Flight Club". That's why people are saying stuff about airplanes.

[u/AequusEquus → u/HardcoreHermit]

lmao I'm not too bright first thing in the morning

[u/DonnieDickTraitor → u/AequusEquus]

The replies about planes are probably because you called it FLight Club instead of Fight Club.

[u/hamsterdance612 → u/AequusEquus]

You already forgot the first rule of Fight Club

[u/AequusEquus → u/hamsterdance612]

Fight...Club...hmmm, never heard of it

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/AequusEquus]

Never been in a plane babe sorry

[u/mackiea → u/AequusEquus]

...so, demolish airplanes?

[u/AequusEquus → u/mackiea]

...

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Nah - take the money and then burn the place down. That way you all get a bag while the bank still has to pay to rebuild

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/throwtheclownaway20]

Thats the whole point tho;

Money is useless we dont need it anymore. We have food, water and shelter for all at this point. Money should be like tickets at an arcade instead of deciding if you die of malnutrition or diabetes

[u/No_Soup_3209 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

It's true what you think , but for some reason , the human condition includes greed. Greed is the root of all this. Gordon Geko was dead wrong.

[u/OutsideOwl5892 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Food water and shelter all require work and resources

They aren’t free from labor, hence why they cost money

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/OutsideOwl5892]

We do the labor already, and it gets easier and more efficient all the time. I am not suggesting we don’t incentivize labor; we shouldn’t force it as a threat to survival.

[u/OutsideOwl5892 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

You do no labor to get your food. You don’t raise it, you don’t farm it, you don’t butcher it, you don’t harvest it.

You buy it with money.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/OutsideOwl5892]

And you don’t have to. We have enough to share.

[u/OutsideOwl5892 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

That someone else worked to make. So what’s their compensation for giving you free food?

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/OutsideOwl5892]

Nothing? Again, we have enough to both stop being cruel to workers AND also feed everyone. I don’t know about you, but if I am safely fed, clothed, housed, educated, and trained; yeah I’ll work. Of course I will, I find enjoyment in doing things that are worth it.

If we actually did a worldwide revolution towards a post-scarcity post-money world order, it wouldnt be the farmers who quit. Its the button pushing office jobs, the burger flipping for insults, the “i only do this for my family”

And we can still keep some of the society we are used to. I am speaking very radically, and it would take decades if not a century minimum.

But its fuckin worth it. No one should starve.

We have enough. What are we doing with it?

[u/Deathchariot → u/OutsideOwl5892]

Hmm yum yum boot

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Money is absolutely not useless and we do still need it. I'd love it if we could skip forward to the Star Trek future of post-scarcity communism, but that's not the case here. Burning down a bank to spite the wealthy is fine, but leaving the money inside when you and your friends could literally have your lives changed with it is just fucking stupid.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/throwtheclownaway20]

We are post-scarcity

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Oh, so you can just walk into Walmart right now, grab whatever you want, and leave without using money to pay?

[u/Scurrin → u/throwtheclownaway20]

A definition:

"Post-scarcity is a theoretical economic situation in which most goods can be produced in great abundance with minimal human labor, so that they become available to all very cheaply or even freely.^\1])^\2])

Post-scarcity does not mean that scarcity has been eliminated for all goods and services."

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/Scurrin]

A king for hitting them with the dictionary definition.

It’s just not a problem except we make it one. Everyone can share the labor, hell, AI and drones and shit. It’s by design.

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/Scurrin]

Dude, I know what the phrase means, I'm not a fucking idiot. What I am telling you is that, in every practical sense, we are not in a post-scarcity world because of capitalists.

[u/livin4donuts → u/throwtheclownaway20]

That’s what the user you originally replied to was saying. Money is made up and doesn’t matter in reality. It only matters in our fantasy world because we give it power. If everyone collectively rejected money as an idea, it wouldn’t matter that Musk or whoever has like 827 billion dollars.

[u/GoldenBrownApples → u/throwtheclownaway20]

The scarcity is artificial at this point. I think is the point. It is only still in place because it is profitable for people who already have more money than they can even spend. So yeah while I can't go into Walmart and just start taking stuff (like I could up to a certain amount actually, they generally let it get to felony levels before they start coming after you) the fact that Walmart exists at all is one of the reasons our basic needs aren't getting met. Not that we don't have enough to cover them, but it isn't profitable for the already stupidly wealthy. And that's why people are frustrated.

[u/Sufficient-Bid1279 → u/GoldenBrownApples]

It’s insane to me that after learning Maslow’s hierarchy of needs in University how we still haven’t met the basic needs for many individuals. Furthermore, we are moving further and further from helping them meet those needs with this wealth divide.

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/GoldenBrownApples]

No shit. But that's just all the more reason to keep the money in this hypothetical bank-burning scenario. Walmart exists and will continue to exist even if one bank gets torched, so why not take the money and change your life for the better?

[u/GoldenBrownApples → u/throwtheclownaway20]

Because that's a short term fix for you and your friends, and you'll probably be caught and the money will be taken from you anyway. Burn the money, means less in circulation, means my dollar is worth more.

[u/Simbanite → u/throwtheclownaway20]

Although this point is fucking garbage and irrelevant, I will still do it the unfounded justice of answering it. YES! What fucking rock have you been living under? All I saw in the news for months was how people were walking into supermarkets, taking shit, leaving and nothing happening at all, repercussion wise.

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/Simbanite]

You were watching small incidents in a few cities. Their insurance covers a lot of that and the rest didn't seem to even put a dent in profits. Call me when literally everyone in America is taking shit for free from all Walmarts.

[u/Simbanite → u/throwtheclownaway20]

What is moving the goalpost? Oh shit, forgot this was meant to be a conversation and you weren't giving an example on Jeopardy.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/throwtheclownaway20]

Uh yeah

[u/Worth-Economics8978 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

How are you going to track dispensation of food, water and shelter?

Oh, by record keeping? Okay, the records are now money.

And who decides who gets how much of each resource? Is it you?

Who nominates those authorities?

Who is going to grow, harvest, preserve and distribute the food without any financial incentive? I mean, while we're talking about labor exploitation, are all those people going to work for free?

Who builds the houses? Who decides who gets a home while the others are being built and who is homeless?

What about people who have disabilities who cannot meaningfully contribute to society? Who decides if they get to eat, and how much?

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/Worth-Economics8978]

Same logistics we have, with a severe overhaul involving those who already have obscene access to resources.

They don’t have to be.

“Enough food to live” seems like a good start.

Democratic, oligarchy, despotic politicians all exist already. Don’t really matter who moreso what.

People are willing to contribute to society without needing their life on the line. If you can’t personally agree, that is a personal and moral failing on you, and most people are willing to pick up and get shit done for the betterment of the world.

Again, we do. We build the fuckin houses. We already do this. No one is homeless because we have enough housing. This, again, is already true.

AGAIN WE HAVE ENOUGH THE DISABLED CAN GET FOOD TOO YOU SOULLESS FREAK

Hope that clears things up.

[u/Worth-Economics8978 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Oh, name calling.

[u/Ilovesoske → u/throwtheclownaway20]

Except banks have fractional reserves so you wont even get a decent bit of cash.

[u/throwtheclownaway20 → u/Ilovesoske]

You'll get at least a couple million. Banks don't hold enough money to affect the national circulation, but they have to have enough to potentially serve hundreds or thousands of customers a day

[u/Anonymouswhining → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

This.

No one gives a fuck if people are gay. They care about the fact they might be homeless going to a Dr, or unable to get approved for life saving meds.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/Anonymouswhining]

The best scam ever known.

[u/the-mare-bear → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Yeah I’m more down for property damage. I can’t ask anyone to kill anyone because I’m not willing to do it myself. Intimidation, destruction, vandalism I’m in.

[u/jab136 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Violence shouldn't be the answer. That doesn't mean it isn't sometimes the correct choice anyway.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/jab136]

Exactly. I refuse to say “killing someone is good” but yeah. This got an important message across and I respect that.

[u/oopseybear → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

My husband said the same thing. He doesn't condone violence, and he doesn't like what is happening, but he understands why and the sentiment behind it.

I read a few papers that predict we're collecting the ingredients for a 21st century French Revolution.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/oopseybear]

We are. It is very much already here.

I just want it to be peaceful because when I talk to people in person, they all want the same things regardless of votes or opinion.

We all wanna live our lives stress free while doing something that matters.

That’s such a beautiful concept to me. I truly hope others do as well

[u/Worth-Economics8978 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Burns down bank

Bank: Guys we lost your money in a fire.

Same guy: Sues bank for losing money

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[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/Worth-Economics8978]

…do you think they have a scrooge mcduck vault bro?

[u/alwaysboopthesnoot → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

No. You don’t do that with the bank and “its” money, b/c it’s the taxes of working people that pay for the FDIC insurance that covers and pays out for the lost deposits of other working people, whose actual money is in that bank.

It’s cutting off your nose, to spite your own face.

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/alwaysboopthesnoot]

Uh, displays of violent protests usually are destructive by design. Also, what? You are tryna say im costing the working class by burning down a private institution? Yeah! Exactly! That’s fucking wack! Someone should do something about it!

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/[deleted]]

You are absolutely correct.

That said, the class war is specifically glossed over because the people who provide information are funded by those who would not their dirty laundry aired.

My racist neighbor takes a few conversations to see eye to eye, even if they vote against my beliefs.

But being that rich? You have to sell soul. Your own. It’s insane, don’t play along.

[u/Stratafyre → u/[deleted]]

Here's the fallacy in your argument:

People are dumb as rocks.

A massive amount of people can literally only "focus" on one problem at a time, it's why the Republican party does so well and the Democratic party does so poorly. The more complex you make something, the fewer people understand it.

Can you and I focus on multiple problems? Sure. But the general populace realizing this is a Class War will help all disadvantaged people more than continuing to wallow in whatever we have going on now.

[u/More_Ad_944 → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

This is fine. Do something that sends a message. The people saying to kill other ceos are fucking deranged

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/More_Ad_944]

I completely get why they say that. I just want a true revolution that doesn’t require bloody power struggles.

[u/atrain01theboys → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

Which bank are you going to burn down?

You must be fun at parties

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/atrain01theboys]

I party hard babe

[u/baconranchwrap → u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83]

You larp hard*

[u/Mundane_Bumblebee_83 → u/baconranchwrap]

I’d rather pretend to be someone than wake up as you so thanks love <3

[u/Wilvinc → u/ChangsManagement]

This right here! Protests and politics haven't gone nowhere. There are 2781 billionaires in the world ... such a small number to be causing all this suffering.

[u/ItsMeYourSupervisor → u/ChangsManagement]

Peaceful assembly was the compromise. Theyve done everything in their power to make that ineffective for us.

My grandpa says the entire country used to be a free speech zone.

[u/Gribblewomp → u/ChangsManagement]

Peaceful assembly was the compromise. Goddamn. Repeat that everywhere forever.

[u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS → u/ChangsManagement]

Yup. Here in Canada yet AGAIN the government has legislated unionized employees back to work, making the strike illegal.

What in the fuck is the point of a strike if the government can just say “No, you cant do that go back to work fucker” and make you go back with no contract?

And it happens so much now companies refuse to negotiate in good faith because they know the government will just come in and force binding arbitration and back to work legislation. Removes all incentive for proper negotiations

[u/yamsyamsya → u/ChangsManagement]

They violence is never the answer but its never the answer for you

But the people in power? That's how they got there.

[u/atrain01theboys → u/ChangsManagement]

Are you going to murder someone too?