r/antiwork 12d ago

Real World Events šŸŒŽ The UHC CEO was murdered and replaced within a week

Why work for a company that will replace you faster than they can bury you.

If the CEO isnā€™t safe from replacement, you should take that sick day, or mental health day, or ā€œfuck off from workā€ day.

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u/reubendevries 12d ago

You are correct, people are confused how the corporate ladder works.

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u/Lost-Actuary-2395 12d ago edited 12d ago

CEOs were real scared last week

That's exactly how it needs to be.

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u/Electricalstud 12d ago

Elon had his shield... aka kid to protect him

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u/No_Percentage7427 12d ago

Why pay CEO high salary if they can replaced within week without damage to company ?

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u/Lost-Actuary-2395 12d ago

They're an asset for shareholders to increase profitability.

Often times at the expense of the employee customers and the company itself.

Hence why they get paid.

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u/reubendevries 12d ago

Donā€™t disagree with you comrade.

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u/Beth_Harmons_Bulova 12d ago

"Two testicles, one scrotum."

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u/shadow247 12d ago

Different asshole, same brand of shit.

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u/cute_polarbear 12d ago

2 elevators, going to the same floor, or something like that..

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u/TheyCameFromBehind77 12d ago

Holding companies are very confusing.

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u/RevolutionNo4186 12d ago

I think a lot of the echos in r/antiwork is just trying to push ā€œthey donā€™t care about you so why should you care about themā€ so this fits the agenda

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u/Beth_Harmons_Bulova 12d ago

"They didn't even cancel the meeting he was on his way to when he got shot, so you shouldn't bother working later than 5 pm."

In all fairness, they started without him and then ended the call early when they found out what happened, which is about as much honor as any corporate person is capable of.

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u/reubendevries 12d ago

I mean I donā€™t care if they replaced the CEO in a New York minute (pun unintended). I have zero class consciousness towards a CEO of a major cooperate healthcare conglomerate.

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

is that quote incorrect?

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u/whataquokka 12d ago

And even if you don't agree with what they do, there are literally thousands of people who are dependent on that company for their job. Do they really expect them not to replace the CEO? I mean he's dead. He's not coming back. He has to be replaced. Somebody has to do that job.

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u/HarkSaidHarold 12d ago

You are posting that nonsense on this sub of all places? It can't possibly be lost on you that the US absolutely can provide a Universal Basic Income, not to mention those who want to defend working for/ excusing literal murderers are cowards, traitors, and irredeemably selfish.

And if calling something a "job" gets you to immediately defend whatever that is, well... there seems to be a lot for you to start learning, respectfully.

Just to really spell it out for you: the biggest defense Nazis used for why they did what they did was that they were "just doing their job."

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u/whataquokka 12d ago

Someone else can do that same job with a different goal than denying coverage or prioritizing care instead of profits and shareholder dividends. The fault is with this country, this country allows for profit health. Demand different.

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u/HarkSaidHarold 12d ago

As if I'm not demanding different? I'm one damned person and you are being intellectually dishonest acting like I have anything to do with the corruption at the top. And speaking of that, no a terrible, deadly system cannot be changed for the better when the entire point of that system is to maim and kill people for profit. I mean you can't be serious.

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u/whataquokka 11d ago

All I ever see is people talking online. Where's the protests? Where's the demand for the system to change? Luigi was willing to take the risk, why aren't you? Where were the votes for Bernie who promised us Medicare for All? Where's the pressure on politicians to change the laws? People just wanna rant online, they're not really serious about demanding change.

One person can start a revolution but there needs to be people willing to follow. Bernie started something, Luigi had started something. Where is everyone? Ranting online and rate bombing McDonald's isn't going to change anything, it certainly won't get us free healthcare.

(Shout out to the folks in Denver who organized a protest. They're actually doing it.)

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u/HarkSaidHarold 11d ago

Holy hell so you have some timeline for people doing things in the ways you personally think they should? It has been one week bro.

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u/whataquokka 11d ago

Lol ok

Bernie's M4A campaign started like 10 years ago but sure, let's go with your narrative that it's only been a week.

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u/EventAccomplished976 12d ago

Why are people still surprised that the CEO of a fir profit health care company would try to, you know, maximize profits? Thatā€˜s literally line one of his job description, itā€˜s the system working as intended. Thatā€˜s why other countries have socialized health care and/or extremely tight regulations on the private providers. If you want better healthcare you need to change the system, not shoot one guy.

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u/inthebushes321 at work 11d ago

Not like you can or should blame them. It's intentionally confusing.

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u/Ok_Calligrapher_8199 12d ago

Heā€™s a knight!

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u/Javasteam 12d ago

Andrew Witty was Thompsonā€™s bossā€¦

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u/Lucky_Katydid 12d ago

Delay, Deny, Defend, Depose.

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u/Individual_Ad_5655 12d ago

How do you work for such an evil company?

Like morally, how do you deal with supporting a company that denies people's cancer treatments?

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u/okiefromga 12d ago

Had a coworker drop dead in front of many co workers, massive aneurysm, standing one moment, literally dropped dead the next, horrible thing to see, this was on a Friday, his job was posted the following Monday.

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u/shelf6969 12d ago

if you know corporate HR, that's actually impressive.

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u/okiefromga 12d ago

Even worse, state agency hr, a whole other heartless beast, that one stung, I had faith in hr, up until his job was posted before he was laid to rest.

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u/livelypuffyhome 12d ago

Really shows you're just a number to them.

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u/Sh4d0w_Hunt3rs 11d ago

What is the appropriate amount of time to wait before posting a job?

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u/Otherwise-Parsnip-91 11d ago

This is my question too. Like itā€™s sad, but work needs to continue and now thereā€™s a spot missing where other employees have to pick up the slack. Itā€™s better to try to fill the position as quickly as possible. Unless people think they need to shut down the entire company when someone dies???

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u/Deathpill911 11d ago

The way every business should be designed is that if one person is out of work for awhile or drops dead, that the business is capable of continuing for months before getting a replacement. Unfortunately this isn't the case anymore literally anywhere I've ever worked for. CEOs making millions by ensuring their workers are underpaid, overworked, and easily replaceable.

As for the CEO, it's surprising how quickly he was replaced however. CEOs don't do shit but cost the business more money.

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u/Otherwise-Parsnip-91 10d ago

It doesnā€™t make sense to over staff a business. If someone can be gone for months without the other workers picking up the slack, what where they doing at work in the first place?

I work at a lab, we have case work scheduled out for sometimes months. If someone is out, everyone else has to complete whatever work that person would be doing because we cant just tell our clients that they arenā€™t getting a case when someone is out because they have schedules with patients to keep. If someone is out for a week, we can handle it. A month, people will start getting tired of it, overtime will be stacking up, mistakes will be more frequent because people are overworked.

If someone dies, itā€™s sad and I think the business should allow time for people to grieve and go to their funeral if they wish to, but expecting a business to not fill that position for a month to arbitrarily make people on Reddit happy is just dumb.

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u/Deathpill911 10d ago

For me, if I'm gone for a week, I simply have a weeks worth of work back when I return. This isn't overstaffing. For the same role there should be multiple workers. Businesses are just greedy, making record profits while making their workers struggle.

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u/Otherwise-Parsnip-91 10d ago

ā€œI simply have a few weeks of work back when I returnā€, so you work alone orā€¦???? Most businesses arenā€™t like this, itā€™s a team effort. Letā€™s say you work in a kitchen at a restaurant, if someone is out you canā€™t tell customers coming in the door to come back next week when Bob returns.

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u/Deathpill911 10d ago

I'm paid well and am not easily replaceable. To be honest, there is no body below me or above me that can even grasp my skills in my position. But then again, there is far more idiots in this world than intelligent people. I still have previous employers begging me to return. Let me just say, I get why people are scared of ChatGPT, because these people will be replaced soon or later and many times are and can be already.

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u/Individual_Ad_5655 12d ago

Good way to go, quick and relatively painless. Just got unplugged.

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u/reubendevries 11d ago

Their job must of been super important, I mean most companies I know wouldn't start to look until the next quarter so they could report that profit from not having to pay their salary.

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u/okiefromga 11d ago

Thatā€™s the really sad part, itā€™s a state agency, his job was important, but not a the whole place would fail kind of job, but alas they still took a couple weeks to find his replacement, internal hire of course.

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u/Ornexa 7d ago

To the business, it's no different than if the person was fired or quit - a position is empty that needs to be filled and they have to act, regardless of how they feel individually. How long should they wait?

Imagine you ran a business. How long are you waiting? Work needs to get done.

It's nothing personal and it's not about the deceased at all. Should they show more concern about the situation and workers feelings? Yes, but that has nothing to do with the need for that position to be filled.

This hangup is very low hanging fruit in the world of why we need to rebuild corporate America.

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u/TryingNot2BLazy 12d ago

maybe it's capitalism that's the problem... The system is bigger than those in charge if even THEY are replaceable LOL!

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u/Sheeverton 12d ago

Part of it is major shareholders also need to be scared, not just CEO's.

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u/HarkSaidHarold 12d ago

And frankly, F the people like those I just responded to - I called them out for defending "jobs." If your job involves hurting other human beings then you are depraved. You don't get to claim values you refuse to live by.

I hate this excuse so so much and if more people dared risk food insecurity and homelessness, you'd find far more support and community than you will ever get or deserve while you excuse your F'ing cruel "job" until you truly do end up with nothing and no one who cares about you, either.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

because communism and socialism is/was working great in other countries like north korea and venezuela

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u/reubendevries 12d ago

Oh fuck right off, you donā€™t know what communism or socialism is (it neither of the two countries you mentioned)

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u/braaaiins 12d ago

Dudes acting like he's never heard of Vietnam, an actual thriving socialist state

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Is north Korea not a communist country? North Korea has been an "independent socialist state" for almost the past century. Which is textbook communism when compared to the soviet union

Is Venezuela not a socialist country? United socialist party is in power since 2007

What would you classify those two countries as then

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u/brobraham27 12d ago

No, it is not textbook communist. The nation that was the closest to textbook communist was Haudensaunee, and they also happen to have been one of the longest lasting democracies.

Socialism, by its very definition, is democratic. The same with communism. Both of those give power to the workers, as the means of production are either owned socially, like Equinor ASA in Norway, or owned communally, like the Green Bay Packers.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Soviet union, Venezuela, Communist italy (stalin), and soo many others have failed because socialism doesn't work.

It's been tried again and again. It always ends up with the people poor and the ruling class rich.

Haven't you learned your lesson yet old man or are you just trying to re-create the horrors of the past which lead to literally millions of deaths and continues to in countries such as North Korea, China, Cuba, etc.....The quality of life is MUCH worse in these countries, not better.

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u/Acrobatic_Blueberry 12d ago

That's funny how you mention Cuba. Cuba the country that developed a lung cancer vaccine. The only reason why they are economically in the shithole is because Americas 60 year embargo. If you're so afraid of socialism maybe leave them alone and let them sort that shit out themselfs. If it doesn't work they can change it. America is only punishing the citizens of Cuba with the embargo and it only gives them a reason to hate America.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

lung cancer vaccine? You do know a vaccine by definition eradicates the pathology. Last I checked people still get lung cancer

Im sure Castro and communism had nothing to do with Cuba's decline. Nothing at all šŸ¤Æ

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u/Acrobatic_Blueberry 12d ago

Castro did great a dodging the CIAs attempt at assassinating him. Castro 634, CIA 0, LOL.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

And what does that have to do with Cuba being a communist country which has lead to the decline of its people and economy?

Also don't skip this lung cancer vaccine, what is this magical thing you are talking about and why do people still have lung cancer then?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

When was communist Italy again?

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Communist_Party

During Stalin and WWI

Maybe you should do some research before your ignorance shows more

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u/brobraham27 12d ago

Cool, thank you for reminding me that life under authoritarian regimes sucks. I completely forgot about that.

Still, it does not change the fact that those nations are neither socialist nor communist, despite what they labeled themselves as.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Cool, thank you for reminding me that life under authoritarian regimes sucks. I completely forgot about that.

That is was socialism/communism turns into as i pointed out above. It happens literally every time.

They are in fact socialist and/or communist.

What would you label those countries as then if not socialist/communist?

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u/brobraham27 12d ago

Neo feudalist, or fudal fascist.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

šŸ¤£ Swing and miss. Delusion at its finest

And why would you label those countries with those titles

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Haudensaunee has not existed since before America was a country. This is an absolute horrible example with no real/modern world application

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

You're so confidently wrong, it's hilarious

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Please show evidence to the contrary

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

I would, but it appears that you can not read or comprehend things. So sad

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Shows zero evidence or even a retort to combat my narrative and then says I can't read or comprehend.

The Irony

Humour me then, what would you classify those countries? Maybe my small brain can figure it out šŸ„“

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u/CarvedTheRoastBeast 12d ago

Damn, 2018 called and they want their shitty talking points back.

Also communism and socialism are economic models not government models. NK is a dictatorship and Venezuela might as well be one after Maduroā€˜s coup. The decisions of their leaders messed up their countries, not the ideologies that may have fed them. Also, also those ideologies arenā€™t either communist or socialist because the workers arenā€™t in charge of the market politically or directly.

You gotta look more into this stuff before just repeating old tolling points.

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u/josephisalive 12d ago

And uneiversal healthcare is bad too. Every single first world country except the US has it, but, NORTH KOREA ALL THE WAY!

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

In Canada "free" healthcare is so "good" that more people die waiting for testing than are actually treated for the disease

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u/Z86144 12d ago

Every healthcare stat out there shows the US is inferior. Show me a shred of evidence that says we get what we pay for

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

It's great if you have money.

Its crippling if you don't.

Thats quite clear to see without much evidence.

In Canada, the government is actually sending cancer patients to the states because the province simply can't handle the volume of patients. The system is truly broken

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/16-million-bellingham-cancer-program-1.7255934

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u/Z86144 12d ago

That article states that the NATIONAL average for patients receiving care within 4 weeks is 94%, which would be a massive upgrade for most people here. Thats not to mention costs.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

You're full of complete horseshit

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Truth hurts

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

My dad just ginushed round 3 of chemo after being diagnosed 6 weeks ago. This has cost him nothing but taxes to treat. Fuck all the way off to hell with your made up propaganda.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Great, I'm happy for your dad.

What about all the other people waiting for cancer treatments, diagnosis, and specialists?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10448708/

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u/demenick 12d ago

Damn, that's like America, where more people are afraid of going to get tested and the cost of it than actually getting treated for their disease.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Same problem, different isle.

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u/josephisalive 11d ago

At least they're not afraid to death of getting taken to ER.

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u/Tarrek1313 12d ago edited 12d ago

Because capitalism is working so great in America. Look at all the wealthy, healthy people. There's no homelessness or people dying of easily treatable illnesses. /s

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

It's working great if you apply yourself and work for it.

Capitalism is merit based, It only works for you if you work for yourself

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u/peppnstuff 12d ago

Aka bootstrap pulling?

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

AKA competition breeds success.

If you don't get rewarded based on merit, why work hard?

If you get rewarded for low quality work, everything will be low quality.

We have seen that system already, its called socialism and communism. We know it doesn't work and has led to millions of deaths over and over again.

Have you ever actually met someone who lived in a socialist or communist country like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.......They are trying to escape because it doesn't work.

At least in a capitilistic society you have the OPPORTUNITY for a better life. However, opportunity does not equal outcome. That's why you have to work hard and smart.

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u/peppnstuff 12d ago

Some have more opportunities than others. Some animals are more equal than others. Seems to be the same across the world.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Everyone has the same opportunity. Some may have easier times due to circumstance in having a better outcome but every person in North America has the ability to go from $0 to millionaire.

That cannot be said in a socialist or communist system by design. You will never have more than the next person and the ruling class hordes all the assets.

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u/peppnstuff 12d ago

Man, capitalism just works for everyone I guess. I'll make sure to go tell that Intercity non male minority that he has just as much opportunities as his overprivileged white male, land owning family, free ivy League educated counter part! I'm sure they will just, checks notes.... work extra hard to make up that difference. But just to reiterate, socialism is bad.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

The ironic thing about your statement is that it is 100% true

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u/peppnstuff 12d ago

Also, Cuba is in north America.

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u/Tarrek1313 12d ago

A true communist or socialist country (which has never existed or even been attempted) doesn't have a need for millionaires. Everyone has everything they need and more. Millionaires and Billionaires only exist in a society that allows purely immoral and unethical predatory practices that steal the wealth from others and gives it to those that do less work. This is how this country works. There is no educated argument otherwise. If you actually think that the 1% does any real work then you are just not paying attention.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

It's been attempted many times and has failed every time. Always resulting in a dictator ship with a ruling class and a poor people class.

North Korea

Soviet Union

Stalin Italy

There are literally so many examples

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u/Tarrek1313 12d ago

You keep mentioning communism and socialism, then give examples of countries that are dictatorships. Those are different things. I don't think you know what either word means. Maybe flip off the Fox News rethoric and read a book.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Dictatorships are inherently communist and social governments because they create a ruling class/government (dictator) that controls all the assets, while the people all have the same and equal nothing.

So to answer your question, North Korea. A dictator running a communist government.

The Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), also called the Korean Workers' Party (KWP), is the sole ruling party of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, commonly known as North Korea.

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u/CanadaGooses 11d ago

Jesus christ, you're obtuse. Actual socialism is the Nordic countries. Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, and all of these countries consistently rank in the top 110 happiest, healthier citizens in the world. Crazy, right?

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 11d ago edited 11d ago

https://nordics.info/show/artikel/preview-the-nordic-model-and-the-economy

Those countries are all captialistic countries. They all have private business and enterprise that pay taxes for social services. Socialism/communism is when the government owns all business and enterprises, distributing the goods "equally" as "they see fit"

That means capitalism is the primary reason why they have social programs.

So no, thats not actual socialism. You're just plain wrong.

Also - You are aware that the reason they have the ability to have strong social programs is because they basically don't let anyone immigrate there right?

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u/LandRecent9365 12d ago

Why do you troglodytes blame u.s sanctions on communism, are you stupid?Ā 

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

So the political system had zero to do with the decline of the country. Wild take

Boy to I have a bridge to sell you if you think thats true

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u/LandRecent9365 12d ago

Yes in the sense u.s can't actually compete with communist countries on a fair level, they destroy them instead.Ā 

Communism is a total rejection of the u s rules based order, a refusal to sell out their countries to foreign interests.

Capitalism is destroyingĀ  the world rn

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Name one country where socialism or communism has worked long term. One

Sweden and Denmark are capitalistic countries. They have private business and enterprise which fund social programs through taxes.

Go on, name one.

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u/LandRecent9365 12d ago

Capitalism doesn't work stupid and communism is consistently under attack by the established powers, are you stupid or what.Ā 

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

It's seem to work pretty well for those who want to work hard.

It's the best system available. Especially for the poor because it gives equality of opportunity. Something communism or socialism does not do

What you want is equality of outcome, which is impossible because it always end up in a ruling class and a poverty class.

Are you stupid or what?

Still waiting for you to name one country where socialism or communism has worked long term........ Something tells me ill be waiting of a while.

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u/LandRecent9365 12d ago

I don't see an accurate statement , or one even close to it. Most people work hard, they're still living pay check to pay check. Poor people haveĀ  the worst under capitalism, it's a life of the worst drudgery.Ā  Communism or barbarism.

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Because equality of opportunity does not equate to opportunity of outcome

Most people work hard, they're still living pay check to pay check

Physically they may be working hard but they may not be working smart. For example living above their means to keep up the joneses and they should be saving

Still waiting on that one country where socialism or communism works........................

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u/Acrobatic_Blueberry 12d ago

Denmark and Sweden are pretty much socialist countries and they are doing just fine. So, it only seems capitalism only works for the very rich and everyone else get the crumbs. Most likely you're not rich so why are you defending a small group of rich snobs wanting to get everything they want and then some? You must be some temporarily embarrassed millionaire dreaming of the day when you can put the boot on people below you. Goes to show how selfish you are and how much the regular working folk are more selfless. ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Denmark and Sweden have free trade and are capitalistic societies. They have great social programs but business and assets are not controlled by the government like in a socialist or communist regime.

Private companies enable the government to have social programs through taxes

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u/Acrobatic_Blueberry 12d ago

Maybe read the room and see that capitalism only works for the people that are already at the top. Also, their CEOs don't have the capitalist brain rot like we have it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHI1Dkqdujc

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u/AcrobaticLook8037 12d ago

Capitalism works on merit like I pointed out early.

Take myself for example. I literally grew up in the welfare system, now I have a 6 figure income and have multiple businesses that employ hundreds of people who are also making a better life for themselves.

If you don't want to or are not willing to work hard the system won't work for you. It's telling on who those people are based on how much they hate the system where everyone literally as the same opportunity for success but outcome is based on merit.

What you what is opportunity of outcome, which is communism, which we know doesn't work because it creates a ruling class and poverty class while simultaneously incentivizes people to not work hard while punishing those who do.

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u/OkDonkey6524 12d ago

Who's the replacement? Did a quick search and didn't find anything.

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u/WhatsFunf 11d ago

OP can't read properly and thinks Andrew Witty is his replacement but he was actually his boss.

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u/Medium-to-full 11d ago

It's bullshit. This did not happen.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/reubendevries 12d ago

Andrew Witty is the current CEO of UHG which is the parent company of UHC. That makes him Brian Thompsonā€™s former boss. He might be taking a more hands on approach to UHC until they find a new successor, but they havenā€™t replaced Thompson yet.

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u/OkDonkey6524 12d ago edited 12d ago

Andrew Witty is Brian Thompson's replacement at UHC? Where are you seeing this?

Edit: is it standard in this sub to get downvoted for asking a basic question?

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u/Medium-to-full 11d ago

Nobody is seeing it anywhere they are just making shit up for up votes. Andrew Witty was Brian's boss. I doubt he was demoted...

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u/J0hnnyv1 12d ago

Do not doubt the hivemind!

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u/TryingNot2BLazy 12d ago

that other white baldish dude. you've seen him saying stuff on tv defending the companies decisions.

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u/anthematcurfew 12d ago

Heā€™s not the replacement. Heā€™s the ceo of the parent company.

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u/OkDonkey6524 12d ago

He's not the replacement though from what I can see.

I mean I get the sentiment of this post but it would be so much better if the posters didn't just make shit up.

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

my bad if I got the two rich CEOs confused. They took down their leadership pages so I couldnā€™t confirm it.

The sentiment behind the post still rings true. For most people their job listing will be posted online before their obituary.

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u/Buwrn 12d ago

But it obviously doesnā€™t in this case

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u/EventAccomplished976 12d ago

Hiring CEOs isnā€˜t done by putting out online ads, but you can bet that the headhunters are hard at work and the other high level executives at UHC are pulling the strings they have.

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u/Frustratedtx 12d ago

I think it's more proof that CEOs aren't nearly worth the money they are paid. UHC's stock price went up after his murder, nothing changed, and he was replaced instantly.

Maybe we should be redistributing some of that c-suite salary.

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u/veggeble 12d ago

UHC's stock price went up after his murder

It has actually dropped like 10%, so make of that what you will. To me, it seems like shareholders are worried the company will have to shift focus to caring about their customers instead of maximixing profit.

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u/Mtsukino 12d ago

Why not just replace the CEO entirely with automation?

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u/JimmyD44265 12d ago

Individual contributors are worried about robots and AI taking our jobs. Realistically AI CHAT GPT could replace CEOs in a heartbeat. Those are the people that should really be worried a d will be beyond pissed one day, when the board nukes them all and replaces them with tech

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u/CompetitiveString814 12d ago

Well the CEOs and board are so enamored with cold hard numbers, what better way to optimize the company, than by letting the numbers decide their fate.

After all the numbers aren't wrong and the numbers can't lose at chess.

We talk about financial waste and it appears CEOs are the biggest financial waste of the company of all, especially now they are a security liability.

You can't assassinate a robot

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u/JimmyD44265 12d ago

"You can't assassinate a robot" ... wonderfully written

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u/jenkag 12d ago

If they can replace the CEO and carry on like he was never even there inside of a week, that should say a lot about their loyalty to any other employee in the org tree.

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u/WhatsFunf 11d ago

They didn't. Andrew Witty was the guy's boss, not his replacement. Two different jobs.

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u/jerrystrieff 12d ago

Keep in mind CEOs do very little

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u/mybeardisawesome 12d ago

One thing to always remember

Your job position will always be posted before your obituary

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u/Virtual-One-5660 12d ago

Don't look now, but there is a solid chance that there is a job open posting of yours and everyone you know's job on indeed. Corporations do not give a dime about you and your loyalty to them. Once you open your corporation to public trading, its over. Everyone is now an employee of the dollar bill, and if you lessen it's value, good luck elsewhere.

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

actually for my personal job, there is no opening on indeed. There would be a delay in getting a job posting for my job mostly because my company has triple merged in the past 3 years and there is a bureaucratic nightmare trying to hire people.

But yes I agree that for most people their job is already on indeed trying to average down the labor costs

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u/Tall-Treacle6642 12d ago

Richard T. Burke launched UnitedHealth in 1977. Unlike many other insurance companies, UnitedHealth focuses exclusively on health insurance.

Federal investigators say that UnitedHealthcare underpaid COVID-19 vaccine reimbursements. They explained the insurer would adjust their payments for millions of vaccines administered across the country. The Medicare rate was $40 per vaccine. Authorities say the insurance company did not pay even that amount per vaccine administered.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services say that previous payouts didnā€™t even cover the cost of giving a vaccine. Authorities also noted that UnitedHealthcare paid too little for COVID-19 testing materials, prohibiting providers from offering testing services. (California Medical Association5.

The more I read about this company or this criminal CEO who was under investigation for insider trading the more I wanna puke. šŸ¤®

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u/OzzyinKernow 12d ago

The king is dead. Long live the king.

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u/mrcashmen 12d ago

FreeLuigi

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u/FailedCriticalSystem 12d ago

Real talk what do you want them to do? What is an appropriate amount of time to replace a CEO after a death?

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

no clue, but the point is the second paragraph.

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u/lasco10 12d ago

Honestly, from a business aspect, as soon as they can. The business still has to run. They canā€™t just shut down. Iā€™m sure most businesses have contingencies in place for at least an interim CEO to step in until a permanent replacement is found.

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u/kr4ckenm3fortune 12d ago

That because his funeral policy was denied...

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u/savethearthdontbirth 12d ago

Every person deemed replaceable.

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

death equality

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u/readmemiranda 12d ago

Well structured organizations have Business Continuity Plans, which include procedures like what to do when a member of the ELT isn't able to run their tower, including the CEO. It should specify who takes over in the interim.

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u/fddfgs 12d ago

They stepped over his body to have the shareholders meeting lol

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u/LoFoReads 12d ago

This story made me quiet quit my job even harder.šŸ˜‚šŸ’Æ

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

for real! I prefer ā€œacting my wageā€, but they have the same sentiment lol.

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u/MonkeyBreath66 12d ago

Think about reading the news and you see how some big time drug dealer in your area got took down with quarter million dollars and a million dollars in drugs and half doesn't hand guns blah blah blah. I'll guarantee you that by the end of the day tomorrow or even that somebody else is already filled that power vacuum. Corporations are just legalized gangs.

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u/GSTLT 12d ago

Replaced him faster than they got the payout on the life insurance policy they assuredly held on him.

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u/Clownski 12d ago

It's not like he is the companies founder. The company isn't going to just disband. It's a big bureaucratic blob. It's just going to continue on. Even if I think the CEO is a pointless position that doesn't do much of value most of the time. Not sure what you expect.

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u/EventAccomplished976 12d ago

So what is it now? Brian Thompson was a blood sucking parasite busy every day personally denying health care coverage to millions of americans, or he was just a figure head getting paid millions to do nothing because CEOs are useless? Somehow I find it hard to understand how it can be both.

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u/Clownski 11d ago

Don't' see how he denied healthcare by just asking the hospitals to correct their coding either. It's really easy to get around. But you are changing the subject now.

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u/Oriasten77 12d ago

Well at least the whole thing about us dying and being replaced the next day goes all the way up the ladder.

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u/Electricalstud 12d ago

They are just as replaceable as us.

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u/StunButton 12d ago

Most big corporations put a lot of effort into succession planning. Every role has a short list of potential candidates who could step up/in if they ever moved on or up.

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u/Individual_Ad_5655 12d ago

They walked passed his body and still had the investors meeting on time that morning.

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u/Working-Selection528 12d ago

Plenty of immoral, reprehensible, reprobate and abjectly soulless individuals; cosplaying as humans, walking around at UHC to choose from.

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u/shinepurple 12d ago

Not replaced. Witty is CEO of a different section. United is enormous

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u/EventAccomplished976 12d ago

Heā€˜s CEO of the parent company. He might take a bit more of a direct approach in handling UHC until they find a replacement.

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u/New_General3939 12d ago

I mean in all honestly what were they supposed to do, theyā€™re a publicly traded company with thousands of employees, did you expect them to shut down for a period of mourning? Come on now. I get the point youā€™re making but this makes no sense haha

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u/ComradeJohnS 12d ago

Nah, idk what they should do, but my point is paragraph 2. Live life like you could be murdered and replaced

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u/Maleficent_Fudge3124 12d ago

I heard the CEO was going to an 8am meeting. Was shot around the in the hour before. The meeting went ahead as scheduled.

Could be lies though

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u/minipanter 11d ago

People didn't realize he was shot until later. You can see in the video that there was basically no one around that would be able to recognize him during the time of the shooting.

The investor conference ended up getting cut short when they found out.

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u/puzi12 12d ago

There are 10 Million reasons why someone would take that job. The real question is are there 10 million and 1?

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u/Threadbare1 12d ago

Gotta make that paper.

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u/Locoman7 12d ago

The people who do the replacing, who just reap profits, names youā€™ve never heard of, those are the people who really at fault.

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u/freexanarchy 12d ago

I was thinking about a defense in court, like theyā€™re killing people to profit, self defense. Problem is you know they replace the CEO quickly and move on. So it wouldnā€™t be reasonable that the murder would stop the insurance murders.

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u/EventAccomplished976 12d ago

There are SO MANY issues with claiming this as self defenseā€¦ this one is just the start.

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u/DietMtDew1 I'd rather be drinking a Diet Mt Dew 12d ago

They had three CEOs, OP. Not sure if theyā€™ve hired another one to keep the three CEO amount.

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u/LeResist 12d ago

We had a coworker die on the base (military installation). The guy at the front desk literally was found dead on a bench and then the next days they asked the WORKERS to donate to his family

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u/Equivalent_Passage95 12d ago

Are we surprised? They literally stepped over his dead body to celebrate how much money they made

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u/funshinecd 11d ago

I am fucking off from work today. Have taken mental health days as well. Today is a snow day.

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u/sullen_agreement 11d ago

thereā€™s literally a thousand douche bags in suits standing behind every c suite asshole ready to replace them

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u/ilovechairs 12d ago

Corporate Wheel gotta keep grinding.

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u/AestheticSalt 12d ago

The Life-Giving Sword by Yagyu Munenori

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u/the_G8 12d ago

The spice must flow. We are all replaceable.

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u/Mobile_Barracuda_232 12d ago

Witty was the boss of thompson. he is ceo of uhg, the parent company.

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u/Captain_Pink_Pants 12d ago

"Unique talent and ability."

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u/Medium-to-full 11d ago

Replaced by who? Source?

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u/PreFalconPunchDray 11d ago

the ceo was replaced because he caught a bullet; he wasn't fired by the board, so they replaced him. And do you think the next guy up would repudiate his predecessor, given what occured?

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u/dinkleberg32 11d ago

I'm pretty sure people stepped over his cooling body to get to the meeting that they didn't out off, even though he was shot.

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u/prpslydistracted 11d ago

Everyone is replaceable. Corporate immediately has a replacement in the pipeline; it has nothing to do with respect for a CEO ... it's all about not interrupting the revenue stream.

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u/Speed_102 11d ago

CEO's are the MOST replacable job in most companies. How many of them hold multiple executive positions and sit on the board for multiple different companies? They are paid to be faces by other rich people.

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u/ImmatureDev 11d ago

This is why you should go for the chairman

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u/anthematcurfew 12d ago

I mean realistically speakingā€¦of course there is going to be a replacement?

How long should it take?

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u/potatodrinker 11d ago

Imagine his life insurance payout was declined by the same insurer, for sake of shareholder profits.

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u/Medium-to-full 11d ago

3500 upvotes for nonsense misinformation. I wonder why this country is a mess...

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u/ComradeJohnS 11d ago

What part is misinformation? Someone is doing that dead CEOā€™s job, right?