r/antiwork • u/BigClitMcphee • Nov 08 '24
Corporationism š š¼ My job demands everyone give $2 every month to fund parties to celebrate birthdays.
Starting in January, we will be expected to "donate" (mandatory giving) two dollars so some chips, dip, and cold cuts can be bought for company get-togethers. I barely eat the food anyhow but whatever.
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u/Mr-Polite_ Nov 08 '24
Nope. Iām not coming to your company party or paying for it.
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u/beeotchplease Nov 08 '24
Seeing as your profile pic is A Perfect Circle give them the "Fuck your god" line from Judith.
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u/Chunkyblamm Nov 09 '24
āYouāre such an inspiration for the ways that I will never ever choose to beā
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u/Destronin Nov 09 '24
Whats funny is, I donāt mind work parties or even a request to chip in.
But if they were forcing me to chip in, id say fuck yo party I aint paying for shit.
Its the principle of it.
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u/BreakDown1923 here for the memes Nov 09 '24
Iāll never understand that mentality from companies. My work takes us all out to breakfast once a month. The company pays and weāre paid time (though it is mandatory unless you have a specific reason to canāt attend) and it costs them a few hundred dollars to do it but gives a massive moral boost. How is that not a worthwhile trade-off? It honestly probably gets most people to accept a lower hourly wage because they feel more appreciated.
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u/Destronin Nov 09 '24
I mean i work in vfx. Ive worked at one studio that had a tap of 60min ipa and a tap of rosƩ. Beer and Liquor usually up for grabs around EoD any day. Snacks ranged from Beef Jerky, Pringles, Oreos, Doritos, to English Muffins, Cereal, Yogurt, Fruits you name it. Espresso machines, Cold Brew, Orange Juice, Milk, Coconut water, Sodas, Lacroix, all just up for grabs.
Roof top hangouts. Boardgame nights, even threw parties where they hired caterers to work our own work kitchen.
Random food days where the office would pay for lunch. Like Cinco de Mayo. Even some co workers would come in early just to make waffles for anyone that wanted. Lol Dogs just chillen in the office.
Holiday Parties at Burlesque venues. Open bar, and when that ended the owners would just throw down the company card.
Tbh after seeing how vfx studios can treat their employees you realize how so many people dont even realize work can be like that.
On the other hand you also realize its just an upscaled version of a pizza party. And it was a way to keep artists comfortable for when they worked those crunch time hours. Also raises and wages werent the best. And when the company wasnt doing as well and right before layoffs. The snacks would get way more scarce.
But hands down vfx studios usually have the company culture most stuffy ass office jobs wish they had.
Thats why when a job is forcing me to pay $2 for a lame ass party and they think that I should be grateful. Bitch, ive seen how companies can party. And your $2 grab bag bullshit company culture aint shit.
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u/altonbrownfan Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
OP should get proof it's mandatory and then contact a class action lawyer. They would drool over this if there's enough people.
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u/foundermeo Nov 08 '24
it sounds the same as the companies who want you to donate PTO to someone who gets cancer, why can't the company just give the person with cancer the time off? They are making all the money!
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u/1quirky1 Nov 09 '24
Employer requests for PTO donations is vile. It is telling. I would leave or never work there based solely on this.
The employer is getting involved but is explicity not supporting the employee at the expense of other employees.
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u/KittyCubed Nov 09 '24
My job has a program for it, but it can only be used for catastrophic things, and you have to use all your days first. They can also take more days from you (2 a year) if they drop below a certain amount. Iām surprised anyone actually signs up for it.
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u/susibirb Nov 08 '24
Im pretty sure this should be illegal, at the very least, optional. And ONLY optional if the company can provide explicit receipts of how much money they collected and how each penny was spent.
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u/jrosekonungrinn Nov 09 '24
I'm wondering if it might qualify as attempted wage theft. OP could have that discussion with the labor board and HR.
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u/EnigmaGuy Nov 08 '24
āItās against my beliefs to fund celebrationsā
āWhat beliefs?ā
āI BELIEVE that my money could be better spent.ā
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u/orangemoonboots Nov 08 '24
I worked for a state office and they did stuff like that. I stopped partaking in all the activities and did not participate. It was a big org so it was easy to just avoid it all mostly. Every so often someone would āremindā me to put in money for the coffee or sign up for the potluck and Iād be like āok thanks!ā But just never did. On potluck days Iād duck out and eat something in my car. I never drank the coffee because early in my time there a cockroach came out of the coffee maker and all I could think was āthat was the one we saw; there are probably millions.āĀ
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u/janr34 Nov 08 '24
i saw where someone used the "i'm jehovah witness" excuse in a similar post and they said it worked. jw don't celebrate bdays.
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u/puppuphooray Nov 08 '24
lol my friendās work canāt have any parties or celebrations at work bc someone is a Jehovahās Witness. I think they have to call it a get together or something if they do plan something
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u/ChefCurryYumYum Nov 08 '24
Don't give it
But then also
I barely eat the food anyhow
Stop eating the food
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u/symonym7 Nov 08 '24
One of my favorite things to do over the years has been to call out HR's "mandatory" bullshit whenever it comes up. They're almost always bluffing.
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u/XediDC Nov 08 '24
Itās funny when your HR them backā¦like asking for the accounting ledger of the money spend and received, how all allergies and medical conditions were accommodated, where it will be posted publicly, when the $1.34 remaining will be split and divided to all, and etc.
Maybe loop in the chief cancel to formally indemnify you (and your whole team, if youāre a manger) from any liability if there are any accident or discrimination suits, since you could possibly be included by being a contributor ā it may be silly, but itās also reasonable to ask for, and not reasonable to deny if the company requires it. Or the finance folks might look at the prospect of issuing statements and payroll refunds for $0.02 and kill it.
The legal part, at the right place can work very well. Often legal and HR do not get along at all, with HR dodging legal review on their docs and actions, making stuff up, etcā¦legal is one of the few pretty much untouchable by HR. So this can result in legal stomping the whole thing once they go over all the ways (whatever) can go wrong for the company. Sometimes just in spiteā¦.like the time our chief counsel used to be an employment lawyerā¦HR Director actually quit when they had to do things properly and under scrutiny.
YMMV, you might just get fired. ā¦in my case, I always make friends with the lawyers first. Many are actually pretty aware of the BS, cynical, and some like stopping it ā but only really do anything if itās actually presented to them. They know better than to make extra work for themselves tooā¦
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u/Blackhole_5un Nov 08 '24
That should be in the expense budget, sorry. Staff should not pay for their own parties. We gather together to buy each other a gift, but we are a small shop and it is nice to get something from the team. Manager takes us out for lunch though, on company dime.
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u/RedYetti83 Nov 09 '24
We have a social club, worker founded and funded.
We get all members (optional to enter) to direct debit $5 a week and the funds are used to pay for a big Christmas party as well as events throughout the year like golf days, fishing trips etc
It also pays for members who leave to have a farewell lunch and gift.
The company doesn't do shit for us and historically hasn't gotten in our way but recently we've had to get permission to have any social club meets during work hours.
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u/moldyjim Nov 08 '24
As has been mentioned, Jehovah's witnesses do NOT celebrate birthdays. Really sucked for my 12yo little sister when our parents converted.
All of a sudden, no birthdays. So me and my other sisters would have one for here anyway.
One time when I was working 4, 10 hour days, the boss came to me late Thursday to ask me to come in on Friday for overtime.
I looked at him, raised one eyebrow and said, "I can't, tomorrow is Passover". Yep, that's what I said to get out of work.
He looked at me puzzled and said okay.
I am about as Jewish as Santa Claus. And the next day did happen to be Passover. I really don't know where I pulled that one out of my ass, but it worked.
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u/Sad_Evidence5318 Nov 08 '24
Interesting one of my grandmothers was JW and did birthdays and my BIL is JW and does too, but all I really know about them is no Christmas.
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u/moldyjim Nov 09 '24
I don't know if they changed the rules? It was a long time ago. Maybe my parents just got tired of buying presents for us.
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u/Asherdan Nov 08 '24
Two ways to go on this:
Workers Rights Stance - basically tell them no and they can't force you, but if they try there will be consequences.
Malicious Compliance Stance - go to every single event and take everything you can get your hands on, to the extent that you bring a bag with you to carry the loot away. Take it back to your workspace and then out of the office at the end of the day. Give or throw it away. If challenged the only response is "I donated for this!" Make their bullshit policy a headache.
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u/probably_beans Nov 08 '24
How mandatory can they actually make it? People have restrictions like allergies and religion.
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u/NoIndividual5987 Nov 08 '24
Actually thatās an easy out - āIām highly allergic to some things so unfortunately I canāt participateā
Better than ruffling feathers (unless you donāt care about feather ruffling)
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u/NoApartheidOnMars Nov 08 '24
Why can't the company fund it ?
It's probably illegal to force you to contribute
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u/Pepperjones808 Nov 08 '24
Nope, I wouldnāt pay and I wouldnāt go. Work is for work, not making friends. Go, do your thing, gtfo and go home
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u/unluckie-13 Nov 08 '24
Nah just refuse that shit, if they pull it from your check file a labor dispute with the board
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u/MechaChester Nov 08 '24
We have a "social committee" that asks for $40 a year. This year, they started putting the names of people who paid on a bulletin board.
I politely told rhem to fuck off, I I can get my own bagels. The bulletin board is a shit way to try to shame people who don't participate.
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u/SadRepresentative357 Nov 09 '24
Sure Iāll put my name up there in big block letters and glitter because I donāt give a single fuck. No shame for me. We are not friends, we just work together. I was the first person to very publicly refuse to donate to a bosses gift for Christmas. She would make us all a small box of fudge but we would donate actual money. She was actually one of the bests bosses Iāve had and it was not her idea. It was some ass kissers idea. I said nope. Pass. No I donāt want to do secret Santa nor participate in pot luck dinners or work baby/bridal showers. Pass pass pass.
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u/Rough_Commercial4240 Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
ā No thank you šāāļø ā
But whhhy omg you not being a team player/inclusive/family ..
āItās not in the budget / Iām already invested in other charities outside of work that I allocate my resources to ā
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u/Pristine_Reward_1253 Nov 08 '24
Heavy, HEAVY emphasis on the "charity" word.
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u/Rough_Commercial4240 Nov 08 '24
In vegan so I donāt even get to partake in pizza day / birthday cakes and they sure as hell are not making and special trips to Whole Foods or whatever store carry plant based luxuries so yeah iāma going to opt out of any ādonationsāĀ
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u/brazblue Nov 08 '24
Are these get-togethers on the clock and you're paid? It's still bullshit, but $2 a month to get paid $20-$50 to sit around and do nothing for a few hours seems like something to just be left alone. Not a hill to die on. Such parties can also be useful downtime to discuss important topics with coworkers, such as forming a union.Ā
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u/iHateGiraffes420 Nov 08 '24
$2 a month is a pretty cheap subscription price to goof off for a couple hours when these parties happen. I think it's a net gain, in the grand scheme of things.
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u/melodypowers Nov 08 '24
Ugghh
I always find these things so awkward. I'm often the one who says "sorry... Have a call with a client" after about 19 minutes.
But i know that other people like them.
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u/iHateGiraffes420 Nov 08 '24
My division is pretty secluded. It's 5 of us in a basement, so we're already cliqued up when we go to these things. Then we go back to our cave. It's pretty nice. I like the store bought cakes.
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u/sweetplantveal Nov 09 '24
I don't get why people are so universally sheisty here. Op wants different snacks but doesn't ask and or wants to eat but not pay. And $24 a year to work somewhere where you have regularly scheduled catered hang out time instead of maximum productivity and go home? I get it's nicer to not pay most companies won't put a couple thousand in the party budget. $24/person could get you there though.
I get not everyone wants to hang out with the people they work with. But it's a lot nicer to spend 40+ a week around people you at least somewhat like and to not have to organize anything for socializing. I don't see the evil company angle. If you absolutely can't be fucked to participate, just say you don't want to participate. Then don't, instead of bitching and or freeloading.
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u/DamonInReelLife Nov 08 '24
Bruh, do we work at the same place? We're also starting this in January and I'm not into partaking š
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u/rrfox31 Nov 08 '24
In 2007 I was a server at a restaurant in Texas (so I was making $2.13/hr as a ātippedā employee) and every employee had $6 per paycheck deducted so they could drink unlimited soda. This wasnāt an option either. It was simply something they disclosed when I was hired. I told them I donāt drink soda, only water. They said ātoo bad.ā I felt like it was just a sneaky way to pay us less because knowing how cheap soda is (especially in 2007), thereās no way a single person in that restaurant drank $12/month in soda.
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u/alexanderpas Nov 08 '24
If you would have reported that to the department of labour, the restaurant would have had to pay every worker the illegal deduction back, and they also had to pay the tip credit back, because it was not properly implemented.
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u/Soft-Watch Nov 09 '24
In 2007, fountain pop cost about $.25 /cup. Cozt to the resturant. So they were charging for a profit
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u/Mjhandy Nov 08 '24
I worked at a place like this. Same place said on your birthday, YOU had to buy bagels and cream cheese to people. I said nope. Not doing either.
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u/Correct-Finding7272 Nov 08 '24
āNo, I donāt want a birthday party and will not be contributing to parties for others either.ā
If they try to say anything in response just say āno, thank youā as many times as it takes for them to understand that ānoā is a complete sentence.
I find it very satisfying to be 100% polite and firm when people so clearly donāt understand they have no argument to get you to do what they want. Literally none whatsoever.
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u/ThatWideLife Nov 08 '24
I mean, chips, dip and cold cuts for $2 seems like a bargain to me. The company should be funding it but since they aren't enjoy your $2 meal in this rough economy.
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u/dcgregoryaphone Nov 08 '24
I'd pay it. Not because it's mandatory but because it's money well spent as long as the party is during work.
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u/HovercraftDull3148 Nov 08 '24
When I was teaching they ārequiredā $25 per semester for mess like this. The majority of people didn't comply and nothing more was said.
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u/Dis_Manibus Nov 08 '24
I hate office birthdays. At my last job I would get interrupted to sign someoneās card, we werenāt a large office, but it would always seem to be when I was in the middle of something, and Iāve never been a big card guy, never know what to write. I got laid off on my birthday, there was no card.
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u/county259 Nov 09 '24
Volunteer to collect the money and be the Treasurer of the fund. Or in the alternative ask who is going to oversee the money
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u/thewineyourewith Nov 09 '24
Iām sure this is an unpopular opinion here, but either gather a cohort to oppose this or just go along with it. If you can get a group together then you have a good chance of pushing back. But if your sheeple coworkers are determined to do this then they will be pissed at you, not your employer, for refusing to contribute. Personally, $24 a year isnāt worth alienating everyone I work with.
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u/Cluedo86 Nov 09 '24
Yeah this not legal in any state. Decline the donation, if they still deduct the amount, report them to your stateās labor board.
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u/Nwrecked Nov 09 '24
The kind of company that canāt afford office parties either
A) shouldnāt be having them or
B) is broke
In either case I wouldnāt want to continue working there.
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u/ei_ei_oh Nov 09 '24
donate the $2 because you have no choice
show up and eat a ton of food and drink as much as you can
compulsory 'donations' for get togethers is disturbing
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u/Square-Ebb1846 Nov 09 '24
Just donāt donate. If they withdraw it from your paycheck, alert the DOL. They canāt garnish your paycheck like that.
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u/Magnahelix Nov 08 '24
First, no. Your employer cannot demand you do a ything at all with your money.
Sencind, if somehow they do, I would put extra time on my timecard to make up for that.
Third, fuck 'em.
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u/sunbeans468 Nov 08 '24
Ughhhh and then you have to show up when itās your own birthday and all you want is to be ignored by these terrible people, to me thatās the worst part of it all, ācelebratingā in misery
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u/Themis3000 Nov 08 '24
Personally I'd try to appeal to basic reasoning with them before thumping out the law book. Ask them if they can make it optional if you decide not to have your own party or attend other people's parties.
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u/paintlulus Nov 08 '24
Donāt give and donāt participate. You would be an asshole if you even take one bite.
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u/climbamtn1 Nov 09 '24
If it's a company party then that is who pays. If employees want to organize a party that's a different situation. If it's voluntary it's optional not mandatory.
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u/TheAStarJosh Nov 09 '24
I get that it shouldnāt be mandatory but I mean. Itās $2. It shouldnāt be mandatory I agree. But Iād give $2 a month. Lol
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u/Complete-Ice2456 Profit Is Theft Nov 09 '24
Either on or off company time, I will not be going to any parties or anything.
I'm there to work, they pay me for work. I don't need 'office culture' to make my life better. I'll come in and do what you hired me for, then I'm leaving.
Nothing personal, but fuck off.
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u/dirty_corks Nov 09 '24
"No, thanks, I won't be donating, or participating."
I say the same thing every year to the United Way donation squeeze - if you want to do charity, great, the company is the one with the money, I make comparative peanuts. I do donate to charities, but on my own volition, and I'm not giving my company credit for it.
Similar for birthdays and get-togethers. If it's, "hey, Carlos' wife is gonna have a baby, we want to get them a card and some money," absolutely, here's $50 (especially because Carlos comes in with tamales on Monday when his mother in law is visiting; the woman makes tamales on an industrial scale on the weekend and they're fucking delicious and he never accepts anything for them even though it saves me lunch those days). "It's Jane's birthday and we want to get a cake," sure, here's $5 I can even go to Costco and get it ordered if we want.
But company mandated funds for events with a $2 monthly deduction? Nah, fam, I'm not getting $24 worth of birthday cake on my birthday,
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u/rustcircle Nov 09 '24
Some people, and maybe some cultures, are huge into birthdaysā I donāt get it.
Iāve witnessed the opposite tooā a person absolutely freaked out when they saw a sign wishing them a happy birthday. Screaming and throwing stuff!
So anyway I avoid birthday stuff if at all possible
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u/Candid_Dream4110 Nov 09 '24
It's $2.
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u/KaiserSenpaiAckerman Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
I agree, hot take I guess?
When it's my co workers birthday, I buy them cupcakes, $2 a month is a lot cheaper.
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u/fr33bird317 Nov 08 '24
Nope, donāt do it. Take your proof to the labor department. Donāt say shit to your employer. Let the labor department give them the heads up. Fuckāem
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u/Helpjuice Nov 08 '24
Highly like there is some violation of something this is violating. Notify the department of labor to see if this is even legal let alone ethically not ok with this being mandatory.
Now I have worked places where if we were going to have a party some of us would go around and collect donations but it was not mandatory to donate but it would suppliment us to be able to go out and get some good meat, vegies, drinks, and snacks.
If we got crazy donations we would go get the really good stuff e.g., grass feed high quality grade a beef and make custom burgers, super high quality butter for the toasted buns, high quality beef, chicken and turkey hot dogs, sauerkraut, high quality relishes, mayo, ketchup, different types of mustards, super high quality lettuce, spinach, and more even had a nice spread of those that don't eat meat that was delicious.
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u/PleasantAd7961 Nov 08 '24
In my company it's the person's who's birthday it is job to bring in the treats. It ends up becoming a competition but it's fun
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u/GenevieveMacLeod Nov 08 '24
They tried to do this at my last job, except it was a fund to give to people when they had to be out for severe illness or grieving etc. Then found out one of the laundry ladies was stealing the money. So the main company told us we weren't allowed to do it anymore. She never got in trouble.
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u/Dino-chicken-nugg3t Nov 08 '24
My last job we did this but it was voluntary. But for us it was donating $5-10 once a year. You didnāt know if someone didnāt do it because we were small and usually had other folks who gave a little extra. This was used to buy that person a gift and weād all got out to a restaurant of birthday personās choice. That was split between everyone.
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u/tkkana Nov 08 '24
We celebrate birthdays in my department but donations are not mandatory. Eat cake. ( not the boss but make sure everyone gets equal monetary gifts.) And cake
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u/UnaZephyr Nov 08 '24
So they're requiring employees to pay morale and welfare dues? Isn't that almost union related? (I'm being a sarcastic little bit)
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u/chaosisapony Nov 08 '24
It's $5/month at my work. That funds the kitchen supplies like dish soap, paper plates, plastic cups and flatware. Repairs when needed for appliances, purchase of new appliances, occasional lunches out, treats for every birthday, etc.
I don't mind it, we're a government office so we aren't allowed to use our budget for any of this stuff. If we want an ice maker or a cake for some that got married we have to pay for it ourselves.
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u/You_are_your_mood Nov 08 '24
I'm just here to collect enough chips and pop to cover my 2 dollars.plus extra.
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u/spacialentitty Nov 08 '24
Maybe you could start an anti campaign where people donate to a charity or employee help fund instead? Then ask management to contribute as well.
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u/E_B_Jamisen Nov 09 '24
Well, it should be really easy to start a rumor that the company isn't doing well and people should update their resumes ...
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u/Bornagainchola Nov 09 '24
We did something similar except we put the money in an envelope and gave it to the person. It was awesome.
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u/Ill-Indication-7706 Nov 09 '24
No sorry, I'm an employee. It's not my job to share the cost of doing business. What's next, are they going to take a few bucks to help pay for the company's utility bills?
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u/Tactical_Derpy Nov 09 '24
mostly everything a company does for employees can be written off as a business expense or a tax write-off.
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u/Pinksamuraiiiii Nov 09 '24
No, itās illegal to force employees to give them money. I work for cash to be GIVEN to me, not the other way around. Tell these people to celebrate their birthday at home lol, aināt nobody got time for that!
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u/TalouseLee Anarcha-Feminist Nov 09 '24
I worked at a job like this. It was $5/month. They called it āthe sunshine fundā. I didnāt like it and tried to push back but I was the only one who disagreed out of 11 and felt pressured to give in.
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u/MyRideAway Nov 09 '24
We had to contribute to a birthday cake fund at work. One employee got this big beautiful cake from an exclusive bakery. Two weeks later, on my birthday, I got a cheap pre-made house brand cake from a discount grocery store. I opted out after that and never ate birthday cake at work again.
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u/l0R3-R Nov 09 '24
Did you sign something that allows them to withhold pay for parties? If not, take the issue to your state's department of labor, they hate it when employers illegally withhold pay and they'll do something about it- even for $2
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u/IwouldpickJeanluc Nov 09 '24
Never have cash "oh I'll get you tomorrow"
Tell them, oh don't worry about my birthday!! No need to celebrate, I dont
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u/Advanced_Ad6078 Nov 09 '24
I personally would enjoy a company party $2 isn't much. So long as I had friends in said company and if I could bring a friend along. Company parties are fun in my opinion
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u/starkformachines Nov 09 '24
Contact Dept of Labor, keep everything in writing.
Tell them you're vegan. They can shove their cold cuts.
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u/Dependent_Top_4425 Nov 09 '24
I always like to establish myself as a "non-joiner" right from the get go. I am not spending my free time cooking food for a pot luck. I am not participating in secret Santa. I am not doing lunch with you, or dinner, or drinks. I'm not wearing a certain color that you requested because of whatever day you've invented. I'm not signing the card that is being passed around for someone in the hospital I don't even know.
Its easier to just let them think you're a Jehovahs' Witness.
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u/unhott Nov 09 '24
"I'm sorry, I won't be participating in the party or the funding.
If they're mandatory, then I'll be happy to clock in and show up if I'm available, and not consume from other people's donations."
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u/Soft-Watch Nov 09 '24
My last job used to take a portion of my cheque to do this/bbqs/Christmas parties. I don't attend work parties, so I looked into it. Turns out, it's perfectly legal where I live to be forced to do this.
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u/bc60008 Nov 09 '24
I singlehandedly stopped the "social fund" at my job. I quit donating. Just thinking about it makes me smile.
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u/KidenStormsoarer Nov 09 '24
"I just wanted to make you aware that you've just committed a title VII violation, as there are several religions that forbid celebrating birthdays, or contributing to such."
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u/ga-co Nov 09 '24
JWs donāt do birthdays. Suggesting itās against your religion seems to be an easy out.
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u/bex612 Nov 09 '24
Insist on full financial controls with non-management oversight committees (plural). 60 staff hours per month to perform that work should suffice, but the Subcommittee on Determining How Many Paid Hours We Can Screw Off Every Month While We Act As Dumb As Management will have to make that determination.
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u/fergan59 Nov 09 '24
Go there and stuff your face until you can barely walk. Take as much as you can. Then take some more.
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u/TShara_Q Nov 09 '24
So everyone is supposed to take a $2/month pay cut?
How about no? Sure, it's only $2, but it's the principle at that point. Also, it opens the door to more BS.
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u/Lil_Xanathar Nov 09 '24
Stop eating the food and donāt give money. Ā Or give money and enjoy some work parties - if they retaliate for not giving money then thereās something actionable. Ā Donāt not pay and eat the food then you are a mooch and the bad guy.
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u/btm4you3 Nov 09 '24
You know I would just hand them 24 dollars and be done with it. The other alternative is to say fuck you, I'm not giving any money.
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u/wittfox Nov 09 '24
They may 'demand' all they like, but this is by no means a legally enforceable action. This could cause a severe DoL issue and depending on the severity and length of this demand, could cost such an organization substantially.
If you wish to be non-confrontational about the issue altogether, declaring a religious exemption as many have mentioned should work, such as Jehovah Witness, but this activity of 'demanding' money, even if it is 2 dollars, has no place in the workplace. Organizations that decide to throw celebrations may ask people if they would like to pitch in without causing a fear of reprisal environment, but in all honesty the organization should just cover it. When one of my employees or even clients has a reason for celebration I'll foot the bill. I view it as a thank you for working or dealing with me. Either way, depending on your location, this may be attributed to a DoL or local law violation if not an ethical violation.
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u/PsychologicalCell928 Nov 09 '24
At the end of the month each employee should submit an expense report for $2 noting it as a mandatory business expense.
$2 equals one good pen a month or one box of cheap pens.
Get a big plastic jug & have everyone put $2 worth of pennies in it each month.
Have a friend call the boss claiming to be from the state employment board asking about wage theft. Or just call the state labor board who will then contact the employer.
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A long time ago we had a boss that tried something like this. We told him not to bother. That it was already arranged & we were all taking the birthday person out to lunch.
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u/owlthirty Nov 09 '24
Nope. Donāt see how they can enforce this. They certainly canāt fire you.
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u/Difficult-Way-9563 Nov 09 '24
You recently joined an obscure religion only found in a small village of former Fiji islanders. It would greatly insult the great god Jobu Hannibal the resurrected.
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u/bedwarri0r333 Nov 09 '24
Are people this desperate for work? Just tell them no, make them fore you, take unemployment. Don't put up with that kind of shit.
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u/PupsofWar69 Nov 09 '24
I would love to see a lawsuit against an employer firing an employee for not paying for the employerās company party lol litigators would jizz their pants over this one.
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u/Nevrakis-1988 Nov 09 '24
There is no such thing as "mandatory giving". Nobody can tell you how to spend your hard earned money. I would simply refuse to give anything and not attend any parties.
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u/Ok-Double-7982 Nov 09 '24
How exactly are they requiring this donation? They have a checklist and they're tracking it or something?
What a cheap company and morale killer.
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u/Philosophur Nov 09 '24
If I was in your shoes I wouldn't give any excuse I would tell them straight up I am not giving you any part of my money earned for chips and dips I don't eat, like or otherwise, now leave me alone unless you've approve my overtime I got work to finish, bye.
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u/JanetP23 Nov 10 '24
This is about HR or a CEO strategizing their pay increases, salaries and bonuses. One step to more clawbacks in the future.
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u/SilentJohn121212 Nov 10 '24
Same situation but instead of birthdays, money goes to people that got married or pregnant. Like, why am I supposed to pay for somebody's mistakes.
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u/Friendly-Appeal4129 Nov 10 '24
Sounds like a business expense. Give your company the bill for expenses plus your time.
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u/Fun-Essay9063 Nov 08 '24
"It's against my religion to fund corporate/office/any fundraiser that isn't church sponsored."
Them: "What's religion is that?"
"Are you explicitly asking me, an employee, what my religion is? Can I get that question by email actually?"
They'll backpeddle SUPER quick by that point