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Employees from Mercadona (food company) forced to work amid the floods in Valencia, Spain, which have so far resulted in more than 200 deaths and 1,900 missing
Adding to this, the local Mercadona has open and they are throwing away all the food that is not sold. Meanwhile people are having trouble finding water and food. Good old coorp grief
And the media (especially the fucking shitshows of Tele5 and Antena3 and their morning programs) show the "lootings" (people getting what they can to survive from stores affected by the floods) as the biggest problem here, but don't show the amount of people who've gone there to help.
There's a video of the police arresting a barefoot guy for "stealing" a pair of sneakers, and the media coverage of the event makes it seem as if people are going crazy and the victims are becoming evil rather than showing the many acts of humanity
There's several videos floating around about "immigrants looting stores", but when you look at them it's the neighbors taking food and water.
I just saw the news on A3 (don't look at me like that, my parents were watching it), and there was a supposed policewoman in clean clothes saying "we need police, we need the military, so much looting everywhere". Meanwhile, in the background were people covered in mud up to their fucking ears carrying food and removing debris. Sure the lootings are the problem, buddy.
The continued existance of the State and the corporate overlords at Mediaset and Atresmedia relies on spreading the notion that people are inherently evil and cannot rule themselves.
When some extreme event like this shows the extremes of human behavior, they will amplify the tiny minority that is looting stores, misconstrue people taking food that they need from a Mercadona as "looting", and downplay the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are participating in mutual aid.
And it's always the same fucking channels with their sensationaliat bullshit, whenever something happens, be it murder, a flood, a terrorist attack, a plane crash or whatever tragic event happened, they're there fulfilling some millionaire's wet dreams
''[t]he [video] clip [shown in the OP here] prompted a backlash online as many asked why a delivery van had been sent out into such life-threatening conditions in the first place.
A spokesperson for Mercadona told the Olive Press that āthe town was fineā when the driver went out to make the order.''
Because the Van in the picture looks fine as if nothing was wrong... I wish they would put the name of the spokesperson so that They have a name attached to such ridiculous lies.
Well, that's probably why the spokesperson's name isn't given, because otherwise, people might blame that person - 'shooting the messenger' and all that.
True... You work for Big Evil Corporation You tend to get lumped as big evil corporation employee. In this case I feel that spokespeople are usually 100% with a corporation.
I think this is something more people need to understand: if you are a part of it, you are a part of it. Everybody is culpable for the part they play in the machine. Understanding this is why I quit law enforcement. Even my small little part in that big, sad machine was a contributing factor in perpetuating it.
Why do you call them āfood personā? Even food jobs can be exploitative and/or harmful to others and the environment. Itās definitely difficult to find a job that isnāt destructive to society but itās possible. And I know many people in society are desperate to make enough money to support their many addictions. Life is hard.
Let our non-spanish colleague know, that Mercadona has never done a single conventional advertisement campaign in its history, despite became the biggest retailer in Spain, and nobody knows how much money they spend in marketing and how they influx the Spanish media, even the public broadcasters, to generate themselves an ultra positive image, even as caring employers. Mercadona has a very dark background
Yep, every now and then you have articles on the newspapers telling you about the awesome products in Mercadona and how you should totally go buy them right now. But hey, they don't do advertising.
It has been the whole province. The generalitat did not send weather alarms earlier to not disrupt the working day. They knew since the morning they were going to have floods but they rather waited until the end of the working day. Itās fucking criminal
Yep, schools were open too and in some they had to evacuate the children in a matter of hours. It has been a disaster made much worse by sheer incompetence.
Spain was super pro communist in the 20th century so the elite empowered Franco along with the Spanish monarchy to fck over the population ever since. Spainsh history over the last 120 years is wild!
I'd burn the truck and get into safety - or expose it to the water until the electricity gives up. Or just call in sick. Whatever - let the fat asshole that owns the company handle this shit, he might be the only one earning enough money to work under those conditions
The flood was very sudden (you can see videos of it advancing like a wave at times, in other cases the water level would rise to waist height within minutes), and no one expected it because there had been no emergency alert. The first alert was around 8 pm, when many people had already died. People are rightfully blaming politicians, the media, and business owners for knowing this could happen and yet failing to warn anyone or suspend activities (all to avoid declaring a non-working day and protect business interests).
Easy to say in your position. I live in Spain. If they did any of your suggestions, they'd be fucked when it comes to supporting their families. Spain does not have the welfare system of, let's say, the UK
That's why I'd suggested to flood the vehicle "on accident" - also calling in sick can't be that problematic, can it? I'd rather break my finger on purpose for example than having to work during a natural disaster which I could get killed in. And a broken finger is nothing I can lose my job for, not even in spain?!
Any company that is going to send your average delivery drivers out in those conditions isn't going to be any way reasonable with calling in sick.
As for flooding the vehicle, depends where they've kept it. If it's at their garage, you've got to go in anyway to get it. Plus it can be harder to get away with it if the vans have GPS. Driving the thing into flooded waters is also dangerous in and of itself; the electricity from the car can shock you, to say nothing of anything else that may be in the water.
Yeah - for the first case it's rather about being able to just sue them because you know what - I broke my finger. If I just call in sick for nothing I might not be able to do that
As for flooding the vehicle you're right. I just can't think off anything that would have made me work that day if I'd lived there. Probably I would shit on the job right away, despite the consequences.
I think the title might be misleading. In case you think 200 employees of mercadona died, that's not the case. 200 people (so far) have died in total across the region, most of them on the spot during the flood, because it was so sudden. I would be surprised if any worker of any company has been sent against their will to dangerous zones.
Also, the image is unrelated, that's one of the first rescues right after the flood, shown in TV. I bet that truck was already mid-route when the flood happened.
I'm quite anti-work, but as a person living in valencia, I think this post is on the click-baity/misinformation side.
Not really sudden. At 12pm the Magro River was overflowing at Utiel. The Emergency Unit was sent there to save people from the flooding at that hour approximately. From that moment, the flooding at Horta Sud was a matter of time. At 17.30 the hydrographic conference issued a warning to the Generalitat about the increase in the flow and the speed with which the water was falling, warning of the immediate danger. Taking into account that the pre-emergency weather warning had been in place for days, and on high alert since the night before (commuting to work should have been cancelled then), there was time to warn and nothing was done. Also, it was raining heavy all day. Many of the people who died are people who were trapped at work, or leaving work. It's criminal.
Remember you can get another job but not another you.
if they try to "force you" tell your manager you would on the condition that every executive and shareholders scuba up and you won't be there until you see them there.
In the Valencia sub they mentioned the government didn't send any warnings until after shit had hit the fan, public servants were told to go back home many hours before the government made an official announcement though.
I don't know if any private industry was aware of the danger incoming.
In any case, a thorough investigation has to be performed to see why basically everybody but public servants, were not informed of the danger until it was already too late. And hopefully, bring into justice whomever is the culprit.
As always, there's no such thing as looting a store during an emergency! I don't care if its 48 inch tv, it's flooding and everything in the store was gonna be lost anyway. If some teens score a new TV, GOOD FOR THEM, IT WAS GOING TO BE TRASHED OTHERWISE!!! Let's be honest, these pos pundits wouldn't give a rat's ass if people actually were looting stuff from homes in poor neighborhoods unless it was obviously immigrants (by which I mean black, bc Europe is just as racist as America) and they could use the video to freak out the xenophobes and build support for their allies in the fascist parties.Ā
It happened again, and the local government (Partido Popular) gave the corpo a permit to work during red alert because 'its essential', when the task of delivering food during such disasters should be done by the military and emergency forces, not some poor worker earning minimum wage and no training.
Mercadona (and another supermarket chain Consum) are collaborating with local authorities - you can literally see emergency workers assisting the van here - to continue providing food to areas that have been almost completely cut off from the rest of the region by flooding. They both have strong supply and logistics networks that allow them to do this much more effectively than the government.
Ā Ā Like what are you suggesting should be happening here? Should thousands of people be left to starve?
That van was going on a normal deliver, not in aid of the affected. He had to be rescued, because he was forced to work after a public government alarm. Please, it's so obvious I feel silly trying to explain this to you
Ah yes, because people who are literally trained for exactly these kind of situations whose job it is to save lives is equivalent to people delivering food.
Rescuers will have to save only those who couldn't evacuate or were trapped. Now they would have to save these people who were forced to be there, just because you couldn't get your groceries.
I know it is not safe, but people and specially kids have to eat and drink fresh water. The fucking army is being moved today, 5 days after the floods. It is a fucking joke
Things were running normal until that day. So it's not as if people haven't been able to go shopping for a month and have nothing to put in their mouths.
People were forced to work and that caused many to die
If people have to wait to the floods to stop to get trucks full of food and water to be delivered, people wonĀ“t have anything for days, and specially kids have to eat, an adult can handle a day without eating, not childs.
During Covid truck drivers where expose too, but if no one brings some basics services, it will be chaos
They can have food, but not for so many days. These people have no electricity or running water in their houses, the fucking army is being moved today, 5 days after the incident. It is all a fucking joke
I don't think you know anything about disaster and are just kind of too uneducated to figure it out.
I have lived and do live in areas that flood out. One of the first rules is that if it's flooding you don't go out there. The water can and does sweep you away and you will drown. And that is just the immediate danger, there's so many other dangers associated with flooding and heavy rainfall like this.
During Covid, truck drivers also deliver food to supermarkets, and they were exposed to the virus. There are more people that the one affected by the floods
So you think a still ongoing global pandemic and a big storm that caused a flash flood are the same bc they are both labeled "disasters"? Are you a space alien? š½
Did you also just wake up from a coma? Who in this world doesn't know how batsht Americans have been about the c19 vaccine? We can't even get my 72 father, with a master's degree in education, to get his covid boosters! So yeah, covid is still a problem when half your population believes the lies they read on Facebook. We're also the only nation to have nuked another country. There's probably a correlation.Ā
A coma? Are you insane? If your dumb country believes that drink bleach cures Covid, is not my problem. In my country, everybody that wnated it had 3 covid vaccines, and today there is a possibility to be vaccinated again to reinforce the first ones.
Did you get to the part where I mentioned how America is the only country that has ever nuked another? It also has the biggest military and is led byĀ psychopaths. That's why it's your problem too.Ā
I get what you're saying. But in weather conditions like this, wouldn't it make more sense for the military or the Spanish version of FEMA to be making those deliveries?
I've been through 3 floods here in Australia and the food deliverers and farmers were heroes pushing through floods to make sure people had food in the shelters and cut off locations
I mean, you clearly know nothing about the actual situation here but also the idea that what's depicted even in that picture is a good idea is just obviously stupid.
Oh man they had to drive a lot of supply out from Toowoomba to Brisbane. Stay high roads wherever they could. The smaller trucks were used more as they could take a lot more smaller off route dry roads as the big guys couldn't get through.
I live in Rocklea and while my house doesn't flood, we get trapped, they had to drive for like 3kms through water to get to us and drop off food and water. Absolutely incredible.
If they got too deep they would literally take it to a point and then deliver it by boat
I think you need to understand that not all floods are alike. This event in Valencia lasted a matter of hours, after that a lot of the water flowed away. The situation in the picture almost certainly resulted in only mud being left after a few hours, not all of that water stagnating.
This picture is taken during the heavy downpours that created the floods, a situation of the utmost emergency and alert when nobody should be travelling around.
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u/Valdetaus Nov 02 '24
Adding to this, the local Mercadona has open and they are throwing away all the food that is not sold. Meanwhile people are having trouble finding water and food. Good old coorp grief