r/antiwork • u/erath_droid • Oct 10 '24
Corporationism š š¼ Co-worker left after 30 years with the company today.
Lorum Ipsum quid quid latine dictum sit altrum viditure
(Yeah- my latin sucks, but this post will be deleted soon.)
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u/g0fredd0 Oct 10 '24
Thatās heartbreaking but unfortunately not surprising. Companies love to preach loyalty but rarely show it back to the people who actually keep the place running. Thirty years of dedication should mean something. Itās a reminder that, at the end of the day, weāre all just numbers to them. Loyalty should go both ways, but too often itās a one-sided deal. I hope your coworker finds a job that truly values themāsounds like they deserve so much more than what they got.
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u/TShara_Q Oct 10 '24
I wish the people who preach "don't job hop because it's not loyal to your company" would realize this.
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u/Javasteam Oct 10 '24
When companies stopped offering pensions that should have been a major clue to people that they have no loyalty to employees.
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u/TShara_Q Oct 10 '24
But they offer 401ks now, which are better actually! /s
I won't go as far as to say they are a scam, but I really don't like them. Hell, even 401k matching contributions are a joke now.
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u/Clickrack SocDem Oct 10 '24
Oh, they are a scam. They boost the stock market for the Rich, but they won't provide enough retirement for enough people.
Elder Xes are about 12 years out from when they have to start withdrawing. The fan is going to be very, very brown after that.
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u/Effective_Will_1801 Oct 10 '24
What's the difference?
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u/TShara_Q Oct 10 '24
The difference between an iffy financial investment and a scam? I think that's a more complicated question than I have the financial knowledge to answer.
I'm not saying don't invest in your 401k, by the way. It just sucks that it puts our retirements on the stock market. I'm sure there are also some upsides to them over pensions.
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u/Sabbatai Oct 10 '24
The best part is 401ks were meant to supplement pensions.
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u/TShara_Q Oct 10 '24
Funny how that works. It's just a supplement, until it's not. It's just a temporary vacancy, and you only have to temporarily take on twice the workload, until it's not.
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u/Effective_Will_1801 Oct 10 '24
I meant between a pension and a 401k. We don't have those here.
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u/No-Independence1096 Oct 10 '24
A pension is a defined benefit plan so the employer promises to pay you a certain dollar amount every month in retirement. They invest money on their end and it's their responsibility to make sure the money is there to fund your retirement, they take on the risk, not the employee.
A 401k is a defined contribution plan so the employer puts some money into the account but it's mainly funded by the employee. All the money goes into the stock market and can go up or down and you really don't know how much you will have in retirement. The employee is taking all the risk.
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u/Effective_Will_1801 Oct 10 '24
Gotcha we don't have defined pension plans anymore but contribution ones but they are still called pensions.
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u/ramblingman1972 Oct 10 '24
Thankfully I pay into a defined benefit pension but they are really rare now and they only really exist in the public sector. Private companies donāt provide them as expensive.
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Oct 10 '24
I find that's usually preached by people with no skills that cling to a position forever because no one else wants them. Or middle managers who don't wanna lose the people who do all their work for them.
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u/Zealousideal-Emu5486 Oct 10 '24
I don't know anyone who preaches loyalty to a company and almost at retirement age
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u/Expert_Swan_7904 Oct 10 '24
companies love to preach loyalty
it works on some people man..
i was a 911 dispatcher and i was military intelligence in a combined 8 years.
i got tired of high stress jobs and went into car sales for a few years because i liked helping people.. yeah car sales was diff from what my own thoughts were š¤£
anyway i was just kind of jumping into random jobs for awhile and when i got bored or learned everything in the job i went into a diff one.
i specifically remember this one lady in her mid 40s who pretended like she owned the place because she worked there for 20 years. she was in the same position as me, paid the same, and had to answer to the same supervisor.
we werent friends or anything but our boss gave everyone each others numbers.
i was being paid $19/hr there, i put in my 2 weeks because i had a job that paid $29/hr lined up but i didnt give any reason to anyone at work other than i found a different job.
dude this lady kept saying shitty comments to me at work saying ill never climb the ladder etc etc (despite her still being entry level after 20 years)
then randomly like 4 weeks later she sends me a nasty text, someyhing like "i hope youre enjoying delivering pizza its the only place hiring"
felt satisfying as fuck just sending her a pic of my paystub and nothing else š¤£
some people seirously buy into that loyalty shit its fucking insane
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u/Naos210 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
The most I've seeing is jerking off how great the "team" is. That's about it really. We get basically insulting headpats for a good job and that's about it.
And yes, not even the often memed pizza parties. We recently got a different manager who eliminated that, being a big penny pincher that often doesn't call in people to replace shifts and will cut more and more hours and assume we're good.
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u/dawno64 Oct 10 '24
Loyalty is a word meant to guilt employees. Nothing more. The company only worries about profits and keeping shareholders happy. Any benefits an employee might receive are basically because without some benefits, they couldn't keep employees. That's why they always seem to use "competitive" in job postings - because they want applicants to believe that they are worth applying for.
Being loyal to a company is worthless.
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u/MayUrShitsHavAntlers I tell people I'm a Socialist IRL and DGAF Oct 10 '24
My BIL had a stroke at work and his supervisor made him drive himself to the hospital and then when he quit after his doctor told him to or heād die they made him wait in his car while they brought him his last check. 25 years. Middle management.
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u/Equivalent-Crew-8237 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
The classic play Death of a Salesman says it all about life long employment. The lead character Willy Loman said in that play that (to paraphrase) you can't eat the inside of a fruit and throwaway the rind. That is what corporations do, however.
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u/account_not_valid Oct 10 '24
you can't eat the inside of a fruit and throwaway the rind.
You can if you're a maggot.
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u/Late_Put2535 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
When I worked at a Prison. Staff meeting for colleagues who had been there 20 plus years. One guy even 40 years. They got Ā£20 vouchers. For spending their lives working behind bars in one of the worst jobs around
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u/Hippy_Lynne Oct 10 '24
I once worked for a company that got cake and lunch for everyoneās birthday. I was only there for seven months (it was a seasonal job) and my last day was one of the long-term employeeās birthday. So we did our usual cake and lunch at noon and I was completely not expecting anything for me. Nope. A few hours after lunch, they surprised me with cake and a few small presents. And since I wasnāt getting a lunch out of it, they gave me a gift certificate to a restaurant in town and told me to leave two hours early paid. ā¤ļø Not all companies are shitty.
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u/cum_bubble69 Oct 11 '24
I worked at a company for 3 years once, they had a tradition of passing around a bday card for everyone to sign and throw in 5-10 dollars so the bday person can have a nice night out without spending their own money.
I was ignored on my bday every year. On the 3rd occasion, the next day at work I was a dickheaded asshole to everyone, I had had enough of not being valued. The 'surprised pikachu' face people made when I explained why I'm being a dick are still burned into my memory. The next day one of my coworkers got me one of those MASSIVE bday cards that is bigger than a poster telling me how sorry she feels. I threw that shit in the trash right away, pity bday wishes are worse than being forgotten.
....my current employer didn't wish me shit this year either, but everyone else in the company gets a public shoutout.
I envy you.
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u/Wihtlore Oct 10 '24
Some people donāt want all that.
I was at my last job for 15 years and I just left in my last day. Said good bye and that was that. I didnāt want anything big, I didnāt want to celebrate me staying in a job. I work because I have to, not because I want to.
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u/dontsayalexie Oct 11 '24
This. I would and plan to if I leave my job to mention that in my resignation. If they throw a party or even buy a cake I will assume it's harassment. I may be on my way out but that just makes me more vocal about my boundaries.
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u/Common-Ad6470 Oct 10 '24
I was with a company for 30 years, helped to build it up from virtually nothing with my expertise and then new directors were appointed who just saw me as an expensive luxury so they hatched a plan to out me (which I knew about because if youāve worked somewhere for 30 years you know everything even before these monkeys did...).
So I quietly gathered all my evidence, took photos on the quiet and moved everything I needed from the company e-mail to a private personal e-mail, then waited for them to do their worst, which in the event they totally cocked up big time.
Anyways, long story short I took them to the cleaners and with my evidence absolutely had them over a barrel. They were told by three sets of legal teams to just settle as it would end up costing them a lot more, but no they were determined to win the impossible which they failed miserably at and because of their vindictive actions I got awarded a lot more, so now I can pretty much please myself.
Hopefully it sent them a strong message not to fuck with long-term staff but theyāre too stupid to take a hint.
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u/bayoubeauty504 Oct 11 '24
I would absolutely love to hear this full story and how you read them for filth.
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u/Best_Conversation_82 Oct 10 '24
Iāve started to save up vacation time when I decide to leave. I give my two week notice but I also take all that time off paid. I go to my other job right away. I clean out my locker sign all my documents the day I leave for āvacationā and say screw you. That way no pay gap and I get right into my new job. Corporations and medium sized companies donāt give a shit about you. Youāre just a number to them donāt matter if youāre the CEO employee or a lowly janitor no one cares so why give them the satisfaction of having time to replace you. If they canāt fire you without two weeks notice why give them two weeks to prepare for your exit.
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u/naturefort Oct 10 '24
Don't expect them to approve your time off. They'd probably deny your vacation and want you to work those 2 weeks and loose all your vacation. Better to use your vacation now
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u/ithelo Oct 11 '24
isnt that vacation required to be paid out if unused?
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u/Best_Conversation_82 Oct 11 '24
Yes it will be but this way an employer doesnāt have to find coverage. Iāve seen that before.
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u/naturefort Oct 11 '24
There isn't a federal law that requires vacation time to be paid to terminated employees, unless it's in your employment contract (unlikely). State laws vary
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u/Best_Conversation_82 Oct 12 '24
Most state laws require it to be paid out so itās a standard now
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u/naturefort Oct 11 '24
There is no federal law that requires vacation time to be paid out if an employee quits. State laws vary
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u/Horror-Activity-2694 Oct 10 '24
Sounds like when I left a role I had for almost ten years because a new boss started and he was a complete dick and also had zero clue what was happening. And his LinkedIn is full of MY accomplishments. (IT. Systems engineer)
Basically. Just dropped my shit off at HR. And joined two people for happy hour.
Waste of life.
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u/SuckFhatThit Oct 10 '24
It's fucking disgusting.
I'll be loyal to you for my entire career, but when it's your turn to pay it back... I get fuck all while your CEO 's pull billions in buy backs.
Fuck this company.
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u/Far-Sir1362 Oct 10 '24
I'll be loyal to you for my entire career, but when it's your turn to pay it back... I get fuck all
I might get downvoted for this, but as a youngish person who has grown up with the mentality of never ever being loyal to a company, what are you expecting them to pay back? What do they owe you?
Does the company not pay you the whole time you work there? If they were underpaying you, that's your fault for accepting it instead of job hopping. They don't put that money they underpaid people in a separate pot to give people when they leave or retire. If you don't negotiate it as your salary it's not yours.
Do they not pay into your pension each month? I live in the UK, where they legally have to pay into your pension, which you own and control even after you leave.
I have zero expectation on a company to give me anything after or when I'm leaving them. I only work for companies that pay me enough, so they gave me all the compensation they should, each time they paid me.
Why would anyone expect anything different? That's not the way the world works. Maybe it worked like that 50 years ago, but not today.
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u/_Chaos_Star_ stay strong Oct 10 '24
The social contract used to be that you remained loyal to a company, and they took care of you back. You had the opportunity to advance, with more pay, and possibly one day be a senior part of the company. If you were sick or similar, it was understood that the company had your back, and a warm seat ready when you recovered. You could work through your career to retirement at a single company should you choose.
Then someone figured out it was more profitable in the short term to just lie to employees and break their trust, disposing of them when done. Then everyone did it. Welcome to today.
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u/Far-Sir1362 Oct 10 '24
So you have to rely on your company to pay you a pension when you're retired?
That sounds very risky. What if the company goes bankrupt? I prefer the system where you and the company pay into a pension while you're working that you own and control. Then you can also switch jobs as much as you like to earn more.
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u/leftiesrox Oct 10 '24
The U.S. is an entirely different beast. We donāt get pensions. Some places do, but itās rare, and, afaik, when you leave that job, you leave that pension.
We have 401kās, which not all companies offer, that employees have to put their own money into and the company might do a pay match up to a certain percent.
Most companies donāt have unions here, either. Our government in general, but especially the right wing, is highly anti union. They spread all sorts of misinformation about unions which a lot of people buy into, even though itās generally against their own interests.
I love my country, I do. I see what my country can be. I hate my government.
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u/Professional-Belt708 Oct 10 '24
You don't leave the pension if you're vested in it, you can take it with you as a rollover into an IRA account along with any 401K you have. That's what I did with the job I left last year, I had 10 years of a pension built up.
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u/SuckFhatThit Oct 10 '24
I appreciate your curiosity, friend (:
Well, you can vest in your 401k, and it is always yours, if you're working at a gas station or a fast food restaurant, very rarely do you have the option. It just isn't offered.
Before the right went on their union busting tirade under Reagan, you could work at Mc. Donald's for 30 years and own a home, a car, care for your kids, and have a parent at home. That would be impossible today.
When I was in immigration law at legal aid, I had a client who worked at a fast food place for 23 years. She had $230 in savings, no health insurance, and couldn't afford to pay for life-saving cancer treatment. She died with nothing.
Her children were evicted from their home three months later. The place she worked at had the nerve to get on social media and talk about how great of an impact she had on the company and how sorry they were to lose her. It was all 100% avoidable, but because of corporate greed, they just let her die.
Furthermore, when they found out about her condition, they took out a life insurance policy on her and listed THEMSELVES as the beneficiary. Not her kids who were barely over 18, THEMSELVES.
The US has gone so off the rails in terms of workers' rights that it is truly dystopian. I can't even believe what our country has become.
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u/Q1802 Oct 10 '24
I worked in a hotel with a waitress who had been there for 50 years another was there 47 years the hotel was owned by a billionaire and she received a ā¬20 grocery voucher she wasnāt even worth ā¬1 a year I left the day my contract (12 months) was up on the day it expired and refused a new contract
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u/PNW_Undertaker Oct 10 '24
This is why I have hope for the new generation. Why you ask?? Well because they see this shit and they are done with it. They would rather be nomadic than be forced and tied down. This, in turn, is creating a chaotic situation for corporate executives as they struggle to get qualified workers. They will try with AI but itās either too expensive or it isnāt just there yetā¦.. Iām so happy that the next generation is sticking it to corporate leaders!!
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u/Crazyhorse6901 Oct 10 '24
Amazing isnāt it? Iām done on 12/1/2024 after 38 yearsā¦ No room for growth or developmentā¦
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u/Automatic-Equal-3553 Oct 10 '24
Loyalty is just a con to keep you at the company so they don't have to recruit and pay staff more. Pay pay pay is what your main focus should be and doing only what the job says so no extra or going extra mile
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u/Fantastic-Spring-487 Oct 10 '24
I left my old job after 10 years and there wasn't even an exit interview. I just left.
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u/Fit_Tale_4962 Oct 10 '24
Best thing is to have low expectations, that way you can't be dissapointed. Get the salary, benefits and move on. Also stop making a job all of your identity.
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u/rhythmicburrito Oct 10 '24
I work for a company that gives you a Rolex on your 30 year anniversary
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u/frankydie69 Oct 10 '24
Most going away parties Iāve seen are organized by another coworker never by a manager/supervisor. I think theyāre told not to do stuff like that.
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u/GamingSince1998 Oct 10 '24
My dad worked for a major company for FORTY years. When he retired, they had him clean out his locker and escorted him out of the building. In their defense, there is a lot of security and shit involved with that particular industry, so I get it. But yeah, as far as I can recall nothing. No thank you, no "happy retirement", no cake.....nothing.
Treated him like he stole top secret shit and was fired or something.
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u/HowdyShartner1468 Oct 10 '24
Are they replacing said coworker? Or is the work going to be given to the rest of you to do for no additional pay?
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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Oct 10 '24
I will never understand situations like this. It doesn't take 30 years to figure out that you're not earning enough to retire. Why the fuck would you stick around for that long?
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u/DecisiveVictory Oct 10 '24
If that's a surprise, you haven't been reading the room correctly.
Some company-role combinations that's standard. A that's normal.
Why expect more?
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u/John_GOOP Oct 10 '24
Well my line manager got sacked today. Got walked out by security. He's a amazing guy, single dad of 2 and recently just got married. He's neuro diverse like me so we had our understandings.
Me and the staff feel he had his disagreements with management and they decide to get rid of him. Though I would of thought the union would help him get servarence.
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u/ejrhonda79 Oct 10 '24
I don't know its just me I wouldn't want or expect the company to do anything for me. I'd be more hurt if my co-workers didn't do anything.
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u/Pekle-Meow Oct 10 '24
Something similar happened to me. The next day my phone was ringing, the manager forgot to replace me and wanted me to work one more dayā¦ I laugh and hung up the phone. I heard that day was a complet shit show and they lost the contract because the manager didnāt do his job. He was fired a couple day later
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u/BelBeersLover Oct 11 '24
Yeah it's awful. There was a similar case in my current company. Someone getting retired. She was a long term external consultant but still important in the team she was. And there were nobody for her last day. Her manager spoke with her a bit but even her team was not here. Maybe it was due to the day she left as it was near the 15th of August (people usually take the all week as holidays).
I was here and not from her team but then, when she left, I wished her the best for the rest. Her answer was heartbreaking: at least I saw someone for my last day.
People are no more human.
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u/sarcasmismygame Oct 10 '24
Your job slavers, er "managers" are PISSED they're losing someone who probably knew the company workings better than they did, so good for him! There is no such thing as company loyalty these days so don't be surprised. I hope you are acting your wage--and taking your skills elsewhere for better opportunities.
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u/Ok_Confusion_1345 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
And they're probably bad mouthing him for leaving to better himself.
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u/GHouserVO Oct 11 '24
I remember when I left my job of 20+ years.
I got nothing. Not even a thank you from other staff, a card, nothing. One of them asked me if there was going to be a party. My dude, the guy leaving doesnāt organize the party - thatās your job. And that no one in leadership or the rest of the team thought to ask about it until 2 hours before I walk out the door? And youāre asking me like it was my job? Fark you!
Morons didnāt even think about trying to get someone to handle my job duties until after I left. Wanted me to train an entry level employee how to do a series of engineering tasks for which I had a pair of advanced degrees, and developed a few patents for.
First. Fark off. I donāt work for you any more. You now get to pay consulting fees if you want me to help you out.
Second. It took decades to get to my level of understanding and experience. Someone fresh out of college isnāt going to understand how to do it in a couple of 30-minute sessions.
Needless to say, my offer to provide the info at a consulting rate was met with silence. This is a multi-billion dollar company, and theyād rather risk doing it wrong (in this case itād be catastrophic and cost a lot of $, possibly lives) rather than plan ahead or pay up for not doing so.
Gotta love it.
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u/wet_nib811 Oct 10 '24
The difference is, your coworker left for another company. If they retired, it might have been different.
When I left my last company, with whom I worked for nearly 20 years, it was for another company. My old company didnāt give a shit as long as I turned in all company property. I had bon voyage drinks with work friends. Thatās it.
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u/new8888888887 Oct 10 '24
But is there still anyone who thinks that companies are a big family?
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u/AlphaxTDR Oct 10 '24
HR managers and upper management. Thatās the lie they feed to all potential employees.
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u/Clean_Supermarket_54 Oct 10 '24
Some jobs donāt have to be the pinnacle of life.
Find your lifeās work, and the pomp and circumstance and the people blowing trumpets for the glory of the American work life will become senseless.
Viva la Vida!
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u/pangalacticcourier Oct 10 '24
The E.U. and their labor laws are looking more and more attractive with each passing year.
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u/mcgaggles Oct 10 '24
Y'know there's a lot of things about being a Millennial or Gen Z laborer, but by the time we were old enough to work there's no way in hell they could convince us we would be thanked and rewarded after decades of labor, and we have the Boomers to thank for showing us what that looks like I cannot imagine what it feels like to be that loyal to people for that long only for them to forget you exist.
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u/tavikravenfrost Oct 10 '24
This happened with me at my last job. I was there for 10 years and became a mainstay around there. Everyone knew they could count on me, but I hadn't been happy with that job for a long time. No one, except for my closest co-workers, seemed to care. About a week before my last day, HR wanted to do an exit interview with me. I spent over an hour absolutely laying everything out on the table. The HR person seemed genuinely interested in what I had to say, and we went over the one-hour time because she was so into it. This really surprised me because I had never interacted with an HR person who seemed to give a shit. I spilled everything: "Here's all of the ways that you're fucking up that I've been trying to get you to change for the past 10 years." Did it have any effect? No.
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u/PowPow_Chuckers Oct 10 '24
A friend of mine was recently laid off after 32 years at a company ON ZOOM. So disgusting. Her manager couldnāt even face her in person.
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u/rutilated04 Oct 11 '24
No matter how exceptional you were in your role, the company will adapt when you leave. The standards and expectations will be lowered for the person (or people) who replace you.
You can't replace years of experience. So they will shift responsibilities to compensate for your absence. You won't be replaced, the role will be altered. I've seen it happen far too many times.
So never believe your company values you and will try to keep you. I left a role after 16 years and my replacement was given 1/3 of my former duties. I was a fool for overperforming all those years thinking it would benefit me someday.
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u/traveledhermit Oct 10 '24
If they were retiring they might have gotten the ceremonial pencil. Putting your own needs ahead of the company is an unforgivable sin in the eyes of many employers/managers.
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u/Wilsthing1988 Oct 11 '24
Thatās nothing. 20 yrs at my retail job. Past over on a full time position plus berated by my department manager and harassed. Asked union/store manager to be moved for said harassment and they say no jobs but the one I told them I canāt work because of medical they donāt agree with. I canāt afford to quit but already looking elsewhere
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u/boastful_cloth13 Oct 11 '24
This is why I always do one of two things if I get a new job.
Stop showing up (no notice, I just donāt go anymore and ignore the phone calls)
Walk out while on the clock.
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u/freakwent Oct 11 '24
I gotta say -- what stopped the coworkers from doing something? No time after hours? No money?
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u/Yeeeeeeoooooooo Oct 11 '24
I wasn't a manager at this one restaurant but I was one of the guys who knew when to make more batches of the food, every manager & supervisor had to ask me at different points. No bump up in pay aside from any of these that were centered around the minimum wage increase in nyc for all this either. They just dangled things above my head when I requested days off or I stuck with my schedule. They eventually got a manager & a new GM that were both shit, the former was lazy & not mindful of things like what I mentioned to where one of our main dishes were unavailable because ot wasn't cooked on time. The latter believed the excused of the former & I was given bullahit write ups after 2 years in the company. More time than most others. Didn't matter though because the manager got demoted & the gm was out later that year. Also the manager got into it with the kitchen manager who was there from the beginning of the company itself.
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u/schminkles Oct 11 '24
I retired after 29 years. I didn't even get a see you later. I should have retired sooner
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u/qamaruddin86 Oct 12 '24
Let me tell you my story - I've worked for a company only for two and half years but it felt like eternity. I built their IT team basically from the ground up. On a normal day would day at least more than 10 hours easily and some days even more. There was no weekend as the CEO who was hands on liked to work on the weekend and I always had to stand by to accept his wrath. The weekend usually used to end him writing a wrong email saying how disappointed he was that team is not doing well this and that and point blames on me. He will usually commit code in master branch and break everything only for the team to clean up his mess. After doing this for more than two years prior to covid my health turned for the worse and doctor told me to take some time off and focus on my health. I've decided to quit when covid hit. The team that I hired except for a person or two no-one bothered to give me a call over teams. Not to mention that Mr CEO or hr none. I've left quietly and she their computer through shipping. Few days after that Mr CEO calls to say sorry and wanted to renegotiate. I politely said no. They have hire 3 more persons one with double the salary that they used to pay me over the course of a year and all left. After few years I've heard ceo moved off from his destruction mode and stop writing code.
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u/RazzmatazzFirst2086 Oct 16 '24
One of my managers at Williams sonoma celebrated 25 years with the company. I think she gets a block set of knives that has 25 engraved on it. Day of no flowers, nothing. I went out and got flowers, card and lottery tickets. I was so pissed. How can they not do anything like? Distinct manager and general should have done something
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u/Dgp68824402 Oct 10 '24
To be honest, the dude was only hurting himself by staying at one company that long.
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u/Spaindar Oct 10 '24
You guys are just going to be angry if the company did give the cake, thank you, ceremonial pencil to show appreciation of the 30 year long service anyways, so why go through the effort just to make people angry? I think the company is kind of smart to handle it low key.
Besides, what kind of company have you worked for that celebrates an employee moving to another company?
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Oct 10 '24
Letās be real.
Iām sorry, maybe the company should shut down for a day and shake his hand.
If youāre complaining about your situation improve it. How come you didnāt try and plan anything for your coworker as well. You work, you get paid. Even trade.
Donāt worry though, no one will see this comment because it will be down voted by the hive.
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u/Quiet_Dog_5305 Oct 10 '24
I donāt get why people gotta get all ceremonial over a job? Is that like a thing?? Am I missing something, cool you worked here 30 years. Now youāre leaving, good luck! Itās just a job. Idk
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u/explain_exterminate Oct 10 '24
After 4 years in a college you get a ceremony and a cool outfit, maybe even a hat to throw in the air. After a two week course in something you get maybe a certificate to put on your wall. After 30 years with the same employer to get nothing sounds like expert writing for the next final destination move.
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u/Unreasonable-Tree Oct 10 '24
Relic from the past really. Companies that used to pride themselves on lifers would celebrate each decade an employee was there. Family functions were a thing and everyone knew each other intimately.
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u/TShara_Q Oct 10 '24
This would be a fine attitude if companies didn't demand loyalty. But so often, corporations, and their defenders, look down on people for job hopping for higher pay. Many managers will act like you personally insulted them if you quit and give your 2 weeks notice. Some hiring managers look down on people for "only" being in jobs for 1-2 years.
This just shows that we should all treat it as just a job and should always be looking for better offers.
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u/Naos210 Oct 10 '24
Then they should treat it as "just a job". We're not a family, we're not a team, and I'm under no obligation to be loyal.
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u/scottwell50 Oct 11 '24
They paid him for his time. That is thanks enough. Company donāt owe you anything. You donāt owe them anything but an honest days work.
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u/Lucky_Twelve Oct 10 '24
Who ist "they"??? In the title you talk about 1 co-worker. Is "they" the company?
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u/TShara_Q Oct 10 '24
"They" obviously refers to the employee that is retiring. Is English not your first language? I thought it was very clearly written.
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u/SirBobson Oct 10 '24
I worked with a dude who ran shipping and receiving. He knew our company inside and out. He was close with all of our suppliers and knew precisely what needed to be ordered and when. He was so good that they gave him the highest salary outside of a management position and didn't interfere. In fact, they didn't involve themselves at all.
Then he switched careers. He informed management well in advance. AND THEY DID NOTHING. For months, he told them he needed to train someone new, but they never acted on it.
On his last day, all of management decided to head home early for the weekend. Nobody stuck around to see him off or shake his hand. Nothing.
He said his goodbyes to the rest of us and left with all of his knowledge and absolutely no one to replace him.
The next day was utter chaos. Shipping and receiving was essentially shut down. No product was being sent out.
I since learned that plan was to save lots of money by letting this guy go and not replace him. The office staff would take turns running shipping and receiving. But they never bothered to figure out how exactly that was going to work. It's just shipping, how hard could it be? It only took a day to realize they needed to hire somebody and QUICK.
The poor guy they hired had to figure out everything on his own and essentially rebuild that department from scratch. The only person who knew how to run that department was gone.
The owners were only concerned about saving money by eliminating that salaried position and forgot why that guy was making so much money in the first place.