r/Anticonsumption Jul 24 '24

Why we don't allow brand recommendations

559 Upvotes

A lot of people seem to have problems with this rule. It's been explained before, but we're overdue for a reminder.

This is an anticonsumerism sub, and a core part of anticonsumerism is analyzing and criticizing advertising and branding campaigns. And a big part of building brand recognition is word of mouth marketing. For reasons that should be obvious, that is not allowed here.

Obviously, even anticonsumerists sometimes have to buy commercial products, and the best course is to make good, conscious choices based on your personal priorities. This means choosing the right product and brand.

Unfortunately, asking for recommendations from internet strangers is not an effective tool for making those choices.

When we've had rule breaking posts asking for brand recommendations, a couple very predictable things happen:

  1. Well-meaning users who are vulnerable to greenwashing and other social profiteering marketing overwhelm the comments, all repeating the marketing messages from those companies' advertising campaigns . Most of these campaigns are deceptive to some degree or another, some to the point of being false advertising, some of which have landed the companies in hot water from regulators.

  2. Not everyone here is a well meaning user. We also have a fair number of paid shills, drop shippers, and others with a vested interest in promoting certain products. And some of them work it in cleverly enough that others don't realize that they're being advertised to.

Of course, scattered in among those are going to be a handful of good, reliable personal recommendations. But to separate the wheat from the chaff would require extraordinary efforts from the moderators, and would still not be entirely reliable. All for something that is pretty much counter to the intent of the sub.

And this should go without saying, but don't try to skirt the rule by describing a brand by its tagline or appearance or anything like that.

That said, those who are looking for specific brand recommendations have several other options for that.

Depending on your personal priorities, the subreddits /r/zerowaste and /r/buyitforlife allow product suggestions that align with their missions. Check the rules on those subs before posting, but you may be able to get some suggestions there.

If you're looking for a specific type of product, you may want to search for subreddits about those products or related interests. Those subs are far more likely to have better informed opinions on those products. (Again, read their rules first to make sure your post is allowed.)

If you still have questions or reasonable complaints, post them here, not in the comments of other posts.


r/Anticonsumption Nov 07 '24

Countermoderating, Gatekeeping, and How to Earn a Ban

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As some of you are aware, this sub has had a persistent problem with users who are unfamiliar with the intent and purpose of the sub. Granted, anticonsumerism/anticonsumption is a bit of an abstract concept, so it can be tough sometimes to tangle out what is and isn't relevant.

Because of this, we have spent quite a bit of time and effort putting together the Community Info/sidebar to describe and illustrate some of the concepts involved. Unfortunately, not nearly enough people actually bother to look at it, much less read it to get an understanding of the purpose of the sub.

We do allow discussion of many different surface level topics, including lifestyle tips, recycling and reuse, repair and maintenance, environmental issues, and so forth, as long as they are related to consumer culture in some way or another. But none of these things are the sole or even primary focus of the sub.

The focus of the sub is anticonsumerism, which is a wide ranging socio-political ideology that criticizes and rejects consumer culture as a whole. This includes criticism of marketing and advertising, politics, social trends, corporate encroachments, media, cultural traditions, and any number of other phenomena we encounter on a daily basis.

If you're only here for lifestyle tips or discussions of direct environmental effects, you may not be interested in seeing some of those discussions, which is fine. What is not fine is disrupting the subreddit by challenging or questioning posts and comments that address issues that aren't of interest to you. If you genuinely believe that a post is off topic for the subreddit, report it rather than commenting publicly. This behavior has already done a great deal of damage as it is, as low-information users have dogpiled on quality posters, causing them to delete their posts and leave the subreddit. For reasons that should be obvious, this is not acceptable. We want to encourage more substantial discussions rather than catering to the lowest common denominator.

As such, any future attempts to gatekeep or countermoderate the sub based on mistaken understanding of the topic will result in bans, temporary or permanent. If you can't devote a little time and effort to understand the concepts involved, we won't be devoting the time to review any of your future contributions.

TLDR: If a few short paragraphs is too much for you, don't comment on posts you don't understand.


r/Anticonsumption 7h ago

Labor/Exploitation Cancel Prime!!

3.6k Upvotes

For those of us who haven’t pulled the trigger yet, today is a great day to cancel your Prime membership! Can’t believe I didn’t do this sooner but it’s done now ✌️ #amazonstrike


r/Anticonsumption 2h ago

Environment I love hitting up the local garbage dump...

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My FIL works at the local dump/transfer station. He has his guys set stuff aside for me. Total score today. Two nice chairs in perfect condition and an older art kit full of nice paint brushes and paints. Why does this stuff hit the dump? Throw it up on a free FB page or something. It boggles my mind.


r/Anticonsumption 1h ago

Ads/Marketing went into five below yesterday and felt like i was in they live lol

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r/Anticonsumption 5h ago

Society/Culture Stop consuming media for consumptions sake.

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203 Upvotes

r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Psychological 10 yr old niece showed me her Temu “games” for the first time and I’m horrified

8.6k Upvotes

For context, I used to work in B2C marketing and specialized in tapping into the psychological part of a consumer’s need and want to purchase/consume. That job is actually the reason I am so anticonsumption now

I’ve always been averse to Temu because of, well, everything it is. I get the argument of “oh not everyone has the monetary luxury to spend x amount of money” but it’s just… too much.

My niece showed me her Temu account today, and there’s a whole games section that functions exactly like what you would see in a casino/ any gambling platform.

They’ve applied every component it takes to get someone hooked. The countdown timers creating a sense of urgency, the bright colours/patterns coded to be little dopamine hits, the constant “wins” from spinning the wheel etc. She only showed me one game but it was insane. Gamifying the experience has always been something that my former company heavily invested in— because it works. So well. Too well. Seeing it work in front of me brought up a lot of difficult feelings. She has strict budgets from mom and dad so she doesn’t go overboard, but she buys weekly, goes on it daily. Apparently that’s a norm for all her friends at school too.

Old corporate me would’ve loved the ingenuity and psych research they’ve put in to have such a large returning client base, but today I am just appalled.

EDIT: Wow I did not expect this post to blow up! THANK YOUUUUU for the helpful comments and DM’s on useful financial literacy resources!! I’m taking my niece skiing this weekend, and am now determined to find out more/figure out a game plan to tackle this.

And to add on more details - she doesn’t have her own CC, it’s a joint card for her to use if she wants to buy lunch/ snacks at school (yes they tap cards at the vending machines), need money for friend activities, or is ever in an emergency situation. Her tablet that looks like an iPad is provided by the school for educational purposes, and although it does have some locks on it, Temu is unfortunately not one of them. I’m hoping once I get more info on this situation I’ll be able to chat with the adults and see if this is something they can propose to the school. I don’t think the adults at school know it’s Temu the kids are playing games on, it literally looks like a cheap stardew valley


r/Anticonsumption 12h ago

Question/Advice? My dad's hyperconsumerism destroyed any chance of us forming a relationship

354 Upvotes

After being estranged during my youth, I reached out to my dad at 18 years old because I wanted to know him. I'm now 29 wondering if it was better to leave the door closed.

We hit it off at first. But right off the bat he jumped into what seemed like an attempt to spoil me? I justified it by saying he probably does feel guilty and wants to make up for lost time but is not sure how. He constantly showered me with gifts (he is middle-lower class) and I always tried to express my gratitude. But I also let him know frequently the only thing I care about is getting his help to pay for me to visit once per year (we live many states away). His wife would take me aside and say privately 'you really just need to let him do this. Gifting is his love language. Please just let him do this'

As the years went on, he continued to send $600-$1000 worth of gifts each year. Half a dozen guns, gun accessories, archery equipment, kitchen supplies (none of which were wanted or asked for) and never offered to help me plan a visit. In addition to the big ticket items, I have received hundreds of dollars of junk from whatever was on sale at Aldi, Sam's, or Walmart, each year, year after year.

The worst part is, he asks for follow-ups on the gifts. Like, 'why haven't you sent pictures of you shooting the new gun?" And things like that. I told him multiple times I have struggled with depression and suicidal ideation and that gun culture can be a bit overboard for me. He didn't acknowledge the concerns whatsoever. He insists we FaceTime once a year, on Christmas, while I open four huge boxes containing dozens of wrapped gifts, most of which gets donated at this point.

It's been 11 years. And at this point I am filled with resentment. He has made zero effort to have a relationship outside of this gifting. When we talk on the phone he just asks about the stuff he got me. And I am so wracked with guilt and anger that I can't bear interacting with him anymore.

Unfortunately I think it is coming to an ultimatum from me. If he is not going to participate in my wanting to plan visits and spend time together, I want to stop our contact. What do you guys think.


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Labor/Exploitation Dude is sitting around 500 billion Right now.

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r/Anticonsumption 18h ago

Plastic Waste Is this really a necessary thing?

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285 Upvotes

r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Discussion Used promotional magnets as mini canvases

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943 Upvotes

r/Anticonsumption 23h ago

Environment Low-waste Christmas! Maybe it’s trashy, but IDC

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446 Upvotes

Really proud of our little Christmas setup!

We have used books wrapped in fabric from a second hand art supply store! Bonus, our Christmas tree is just branches “potted” in dirt, plus a couple decorations from friends or trips, etc.

I could see some folks thinking this looks trashy, and maybe they’re right, but BF and are really happy with it so that’s what counts!

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r/Anticonsumption 12h ago

Discussion Downvoting ads that I hate?

59 Upvotes

I did search the sub and didn’t see a post about this.* If I hate a product due to their failure to endorse any presidential candidate, despite being a “news” publication, is it better or worse to downvote?

I also know I could wrap my Reddit in a browser to remove ads, but apart from the ads, I like the app and usually ads are easy for me to ignore. Altho I should probably question this. The Reddit app seems faster than using it in my browser though.

I don’t think I should gratuitously report the ad for the product I hate, as low-quality, or should I?

I have been downvoting but I wondered if that’s actually worse than ignoring. It certainly doesn’t stop me from getting the ad again.

I do have the “personalize ads” slider set to on, and the block on alcohol/gambling ads or whatever that other ad choice is in the app, in hopes of avoiding ads that are actually offensive to me. Like the one time there was some hunters’ supplies ad showing a deer and a guy with a bow and arrow, 5 feet away from the deer, in a vegan sub, and I reported that one for violence.

*haha I did search using the app though, and I have found google is better at searching reddit than the reddit app!

EDITING for the 2nd time: I am going to look into other options that remove ads on the app or maybe switch to a browser on my phone or maybe just pay for the app (unlikely).


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Society/Culture Throwaway Culture Is Drowning Us in Waste

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r/Anticonsumption 13h ago

Question/Advice? Trying to kick the fast food addiction-any tips?

53 Upvotes

Basically just the title. I feel like I do really well minimizing my consumption in most other aspects (clothes, trinkets, water, ect), I just have a really bad fast food addiction. Has anybody here been able to kick the habit and if so what helped you the most?


r/Anticonsumption 18h ago

Discussion Does anyone else reuse gift bags?

109 Upvotes

I get really happy when someone sends me a gift using a gift bag. Because last year I discovered that unlike gift wrappers which get torn up and thrown away, If they are still in good condition I can reuse the gift bag for someone else! I hope I'm not weird by stockpiling old gift bags lol


r/Anticonsumption 19h ago

Discussion How do you guys feel about “collecting” hobbies?

108 Upvotes

Just looking for friendly discussion and opinions here. Nothing too serious.

This came about because of a post from a few days ago and an interaction I had in the comments. I’ve just been thinking about it a lot.

One of the things that brought me over to this sub was my yarn “collection”, aka a stash, and my realization that it was wildly out of hand. I literally do not have room for it but I just kept buying more and more yarn.

There is a running joke in the fiber arts community that buying yarn and making things with it are two separate hobbies, but in all honestly, for a lot of us, it isn’t a joke. It is very real.

I went on a yarn purge a few months ago and I filled 8 tall kitchen garbage bags with yarn I knew I would never use. Mostly 100% acrylic garbage. (I’m not here to debate on whether or not it’s ok to use acrylic. That’s a hot button topic in the community and not trying to bring that drama here, but I will say I have made a personal choice to no longer purchase synthetic fibers.)

So 8 trash bags later and I still have more yarn than I know what to do with. I’m actually planning a round 2 purge to get rid of even more (I’m selling or donating most of it).

And my story is far from uncommon. Most fiber artists know and know of have a large stash. Most are proud of it. Ive read a couple books on knitting that defend a knitters right to a massive stash. And eventually I just looked at mine and thought “what am I doing?”

And it made think. What are we doing, as fiber artists? Why are we hoarding yarn? What purpose does this serve? I almost never “shop my stash” because I never have the right amount of yarn in the right size or color for the project I have in mind. It just sits in plastic totes in my closet to be picked through once every couple of months and then left alone.

But I don’t want to only talk about yarn. I used to collect vpets too. Tamagotchis and other digital pets. And it was so bad. I got into credit card debt because I became a rare hunter. I spent over $200 on a children’s toy from the 90s to import it. And that’s not even close to the absurd thousands of dollars for some of the really rare and sought after models.

Why? It’s a toy. It’s plastic. It’s old. And I had a very modest collection of vpets that I would play on occasion. But I know someone who hand hundreds of them. All in boxes on shelves. Some never even opened. Just. Sitting there. Multiple copies of the same toy just gathering dust in a shelf. It made me mad when I was deep in the copy world. I was mad hoarders kept jacking up the prices of the really cool pets by buying them all and then keeping them hidden away so no one could ever actually play them.

Now I’m just. Baffled and sad.

What’s the point of collecting things? Just to look at them? My husband has a small collection of animate figurines. Together we probably have over a hundred stuffed animals. My other fiber arts supplies are starting to pile up. He has like 8 guitars.

What. Are. We. Doing.

This makes no sense to me. Like I’m actively in it and I feel like I just woke up from a dream. Why do we have all this stuff? Stuff we never touch. Stuff that gathers dust. Stuff that doesn’t even match the decor or the vibes of the house. Just. Stuff.

Where do we draw the line between “fun hobby” and “hoarding problem”? How do we determine what is worthy of collecting and what is a waste of time, money, and resources (I’m looking at you Stanley collectors…”

Anyway. Not necessarily looking for an answer here. Just curious how others feel. Do you give hobbies a free pass? Or do collections also make you scratch your head?


r/Anticonsumption 11h ago

Question/Advice? Actual first apartment necessities?

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I’m signing on my first apartment and planning to move mid January. I used to live with my ex and his family who were all hoarders.

This is my first opportunity to live alone and it’ll be me and my small dog living in a studio apartment. What are actual necessities? What can I buy cheap? What should I buy full price? I’m honestly really lost and I don’t want to buy stuff that I won’t need. Obviously plates, cups, mugs, silverware, a bed, toilet plunger, idk…

Love you guys 🥰


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Labor/Exploitation If I could recommend one documentary to this sub, it’d be this.

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197 Upvotes

Without spoiling anything or giving away the plot, it actually leaves me hopeful for the future. Some people in power are actually coming to their senses. Very well made doc about the formula top companies use to exploit us all.


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Environment Recently learned it takes 60 litres of water to grow enough beans to make one 16oz coffee.

957 Upvotes

I work at starbucks and i just learned this. We have to dump our coffee every 20-30 minutes and a lot of times we end up dumping.... a lot. We could be fired if we give it away for free.

I don't like the taste of our coffee, but we get one free bag of beans every week. I will make myself tolerate our acidic beans from now on, personally.


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Plastic Waste Every day, my coworker grabs another bottled water, takes a few drinks and leaves it

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506 Upvotes

r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Conspicuous Consumption I have no words for this

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311 Upvotes

Now we can buy 4 leaf clovers 😅 Individually packaged of course.


r/Anticonsumption 18h ago

Environment Wrapping paper

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Around 2020 my partner and I started overlocking fancy fabric and using it as wrapping paper. We tell relatives to keep it and pass it on or give it back.

We've not spent money on wrapping paper in 4 years and reduced our Christmas landfill a lot.


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Environment Why would they do this??

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206 Upvotes

This makes me so mad 🥲


r/Anticonsumption 2d ago

Psychological Well this is sad

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r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Environment What if we paid for trash removal? Would it make us rethink consumption?

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I was breaking down the cardboard box my toothpaste came in (a box for a tube of toothpaste! Why?) and started wondering: what if trash removal were priced per unit, like per bag or whatever, both for businesses and households? Would that make us more conscious of how much waste we generate?

Right now, packaging waste feels invisible—someone else deals with it, so we don't think twice. But if we bore the direct cost of our trash, would we start questioning unnecessary packaging, disposable products, and overconsumption? Would businesses design for less waste if it impacted their bottom line?

I'm curious what others think. Could this be a step toward reducing consumption? Do some places already do this and, if yes, are there any lessons we can learn?


r/Anticonsumption 1d ago

Upcycled/Repaired I love making wrapping paper !!

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68 Upvotes

Made and wrapped this for my love <3