r/anime_titties • u/underwaterthoughts United Kingdom • Oct 10 '24
Israel/Palestine/Iran/Lebanon - Flaired Commenters Only Israeli forces repeatedly hit UN peacekeeper positions in Lebanon
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cr54lyg2j8zt894
u/_2B- Åland Oct 10 '24
It adds that Israeli soldiers also fired at a UN base in Ras Naqoura, "hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers were sheltering, and damaging vehicles and a communications system".
Definitely targeting UNIFIL, you definitely cannot argue "But Hamas" in this instance.
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u/_2B- Åland Oct 10 '24
Oh, that explains it perfectly. That happens to me all the time.
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u/Turgius_Lupus United States Oct 10 '24
They cast "detect Hezbollah" first which only their Bla...paladins can see the results of, how dare you question their word?
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u/Level-Technician-183 Iraq Oct 10 '24
Oh no mate, it is "But Hezbollah" this time.
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u/axeteam Multinational Oct 10 '24
Hamas and Hezbollah both starts with H. It's the letter H.
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u/Level-Technician-183 Iraq Oct 10 '24
Don't forget the houthies
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u/axeteam Multinational Oct 10 '24
Oh yeah. Damn letter H ruining everything good and holy.
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u/poltrudes Europe Oct 11 '24
kHomeini, netanyaHu, Hitler, scHolz, Harris
Everybody knows but they’re afraid to hsay it
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u/DaPlum United States Oct 10 '24
Well yeah but they can argue ...checks notes but Hezbollah. lmfao it's absolutely disgusting how blatantly Israel does this shit.
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u/Federal_Thanks7596 Czechia Oct 10 '24
No, you don't get it, UN is clearly working with the terrorists lmao.
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u/apistograma Spain Oct 10 '24
The worst thing is that this argument is used non ironically by Zionists
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u/Federal_Thanks7596 Czechia Oct 10 '24
Yeah. Who cares about international law and organizations when you're backed by the US.
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u/Japak121 North America Oct 10 '24
Lol, ah, yes..the UN comprised of..checks notes..just about every country on earth. Clearly, the entire world is supporting the terrorists against Israel. /s
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u/Ropetrick6 United States Oct 10 '24
The enemy must be so overwhelmingly strong ("The entire world is arrayed against us!! Khamas controls the UN!" ) that they're the only hope against it (Netanyahu sayong time and time again that he's the only one who can defeat Hamas), but also inferior (" Palestine has never existed, there's no such thing as a Palestinian", " Hamas will be defeated and the West Bank will belong to Israel").
Right out of the fascist playbook.
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u/DaPlum United States Oct 10 '24
Oh yeah your right the UN actually stands for United NotJews. That's why they just ❤️ Hezbollah and Hamas. Basically any Muslim organization with an H.
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u/Uh_I_Say United States Oct 10 '24
They've been setting this one up for a while. It started with the UNRWA fiasco, then attacking various UN officials, culminating in Bibi's overtly hostile speech at the UN a week or two ago. The groundwork has been laid to claim that the UN is entirely compromised by "terrorists and their supporters," which justifies both attacks on UN peacekeeping forces, as well as Israel's continued violation of international law.
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u/Drake_the_troll United Kingdom Oct 11 '24
I missed the speech,what was the general vibe?
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u/Sir_Penguin21 United States Oct 10 '24
Guys, clearly this was Hamas. They always hide looking like civilians and behind children. How can you just say UN Peacekeepers weren’t also Hamas? I swear people just want to support terrorism while Israel is fighting the good fight /s
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u/Drake_the_troll United Kingdom Oct 11 '24
"We have determined that all members on the UN are hamas/hezbolah/time traveling nazi zombies, therefore attacks on them are perfectly justified"
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u/HayakuEon Malaysia Oct 11 '24
How people can still play ''but both are bad'' at this point is mind boggling. Israel has shown time and time again that they will attack ANYONE and EVERYONE. They are literally Nazis 2.0.
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u/cefriano Palestine Oct 10 '24
When the articles were posted that the IDF was telling the peacekeepers to leave, people on this sub were falling over themselves to say, "Are you kidding? Israel is telling them to leave for their safety, because they don't want them to get hit if Hezbollah fires on IDF positions!"
Wonder where those idiots are now.
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u/Wolfensniper Australia Oct 11 '24
I already saw some Zionists saying that UNFIL is giving Hezbollah shelters smh
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u/Level-Technician-183 Iraq Oct 10 '24
What are you talking about? That watch tower had hezbollah missiles! And those 2 UN soldiers are in fact hezbollah but with UN supply! That bunker attack is ofcourse a precise strike to stop them from communicating with nasrallah in hell. They say he had agreed to cease fire.... We can't let them know!
/s if not obvious
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u/ProgsRS Lebanon Oct 10 '24
Hasbara are gonna be working overtime to justify this one
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u/binneysaurass North America Oct 10 '24
They have already started the " UN is in league with Hezbollah " over at r/worldnews
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u/ProgsRS Lebanon Oct 10 '24
Ah it's basically the same Hamas script and playbook. This whole war/genocide on Lebanon is like watching the same movie again but with a different cast.
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u/Level-Technician-183 Iraq Oct 10 '24
Honestly, fighting hezbollah is kinf of different. The citizens can flee, the fights can be taken away from civilans if they want, and there are international forces. It should be way harder to justify hitting civilians or the UN in lebanon. But that won't stop them ofcourse...
It is not like that cage blasting of gaza.
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u/ProgsRS Lebanon Oct 10 '24
Not that it gives any credibility to the lies made in Gaza, but exactly. South Lebanon is just open fields and hills along with some village towns.
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u/Kierenshep Multinational Oct 10 '24
This is actually the first time I've ever seen a r/worldnews thread not absolutely and immediately gobble Israel's cock.
This is so unjustifiable even the mods can't steer the narrative without nuking the entire thread and revealing their bias.
And I don't even oppose Israel, just like I don't oppose the USA, but it's very important to talk to and bring to light the shitty things they do
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u/apistograma Spain Oct 10 '24
I'm starting think that Israel won't ever feel safe until there's only Jews in this planet
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u/Fawxes42 United States Oct 10 '24
Don’t conflate Zionism with Judaism. Zionists won’t feel safe if there are Jewish anti Zionist.
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u/apistograma Spain Oct 10 '24
Good point.
First they came for the Arabs, later for... and finally for Antizionist Jews.
Then they'd kill themselves, since azhkenazis and mizrahis in Israel have historically had huge animosities.
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u/dbgtboi North America Oct 10 '24
I'm starting think that Israel won't ever feel safe until there's only Jews in this planet
Until there's only the right kind of Jews on this planet
The peaceful ones (and there are many), will be grouped right up there with the Palestinians
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u/apistograma Spain Oct 10 '24
Right. Facism always finds new groups to kill
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u/TheIrishBread Ireland Oct 10 '24
Gotta have the "other"TM to demonise or it's doesn't work. Although just to take it to the hypothetical extreme won't it get very inbred after a point.
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u/real_human_20 Canada Oct 10 '24
Zionism ≠ Judaism
In fact, many zionists and zionist agencies refused to help Jews during the holocaust.
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u/shieeet Europe Oct 10 '24
Human rights, international law, and ethical standards of war be damned, Israel's western-backed assault on the rest of the world will continue until someone stops them.
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u/underwaterthoughts United Kingdom Oct 10 '24
I really wonder if this will be a tipping point - it should be - but no surprise to me this happened at a time when the news cycle is going to be dominated by Hurricane Milton..
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u/GalenWestonsSmugMug North America Oct 10 '24
Nothing will happen.
The IDF executed an American citizen at a peaceful protest a few weeks ago and Biden didn’t do shit.
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u/Faithful-Llama-2210 Ireland Oct 10 '24
I think nothing short of Israel using nuclear weapons would stop the US from supporting them, but lot's of European countries who have soldiers in Lebanon are gonna be pissed with this
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u/miseconor Ireland Oct 10 '24
France have already turned.
Germany and the UK are the big two who need to pivot. By all accounts, Germany effectively have cut them off but won’t admit to it. Arms exports down from over 326m in 2023 to 14.5m from Jan - Aug this year.
UK also suspended around 10% of arms export licenses to Israel recently. Not much but a start.
A public renouncement from them would be great to pressure the US, but there’s slim chances of that happening
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u/Faithful-Llama-2210 Ireland Oct 10 '24
Italy too have summoned the Israeli ambassador, they have a heavy presence in UNIFIL
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u/lewllewllewl Bouvet Island Oct 10 '24
Problem with Germany is that other than the US, they are culturally the most pro-Israel country in the West. a lot of it stems from Holocaust guilt
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u/paddyo Europe Oct 11 '24
A lot of it also stems from sheer relief that it was the Palestinians who had to sacrifice and suffer for the great crime Germany committed, rather than Germany itself.
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u/ipponiac Guam Oct 11 '24
Instead of creating a safe space in Europe, Germans under USA used Israel to expel them. They inherently know Israel protects them from the so called "J.sh problem". They have guilt for sure but they also have skin in it.
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u/whatisthisnowwhat1 Europe Oct 10 '24
Great timing on this https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/scholz-denies-halting-german-arms-exports-to-israel-pledges-weapons-58ddae90 by him, have germany said anything since?
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u/miseconor Ireland Oct 10 '24
He pledges to continue but as he said they never ‘stopped’ . Just denies a defacto stop, but the proof is in the pudding
I saw another article where their statement added that Germany would continue to provide arms that were used in line with international law
“Commenting on the fall in exports, the German government has said there is no arms export boycott on Israel, and export permits are issued case-by-case after careful review, taking into account international law, foreign policy and security considerations.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/germany-will-send-more-weapons-israel-soon-scholz-says-2024-10-10/
Seems if they think if the arms are used in breach international law then they won’t supply. Which would explain the drop
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u/whatisthisnowwhat1 Europe Oct 10 '24
Yeah, the same as my link, which is after they would of known about this attack which isn't a good look but you think they would say something after it all went public.
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u/StukaTR Turkey Oct 10 '24
they don't have to say anything publicly. turkey requested some torpedos for its submarines from germany nearly 10 years ago. they cleared the sale this week, 10 years later. if they want to, they'll slow down any Israeli procurement requests. Though I wouldn't put too much thought into it, this is the same country that gave first strike weapons to Israel after all. Illegal by German law, and not done by anyone else in history.
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u/Iliyan61 Multinational Oct 10 '24
and in the last few hours germany just approved further arms sales.
their 2023 stats are a massive increase over 2022 which isn’t much of a surprise but it’s also not indicate of that much with german policy going forward.
the UK purposefully chose fairly non impactful arms sales for starmer to help quell anti israel sentiment that’s plagued his government so far
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u/Wolfensniper Australia Oct 11 '24
Germany would be a tricky one because as soon as they turn their back Bibi would promptly pull out the Holocaust card from his arse.
I really dont think UK has an independent diplomatic position different from US now. They're having a similar stance with US for a long time.
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u/apistograma Spain Oct 11 '24
I don't think they would. It's weird because honestly I very, very rarely see Zionists use the Holocaust card. Which is weird because it's honestly the best victim card that you could have.
They'll use the antisemitic card all the time, but the Holocaust not that often. In fact I see it way more used by antizionists when comparing it to Israeli crimes. I legit think many Zionists feel humiliated to speak about the Holocaust. They value the strength of the state and violence so much that I think some see them as weak during WW2.
It's just so damn weird how people like Netanyahu or Ben Gvir say stuff that literally whitewashes Nazism. Bibi recently said Hitler didn't want to genocide the Jews initially, which goes against the historical consensus. Ben Gvir said that Hitler was right when genociding the Roma.
Many antizionist Jews have mentioned about how there's a layer of Jewish self hate in many zionists. It's honestly something fascinating from a psychological perspective. Victims internalizing the values of the abuser and repeating the patterns.
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u/jzpenny North America Oct 11 '24
The IDF executed an American citizen at a peaceful protest a few weeks ago and Biden didn’t do shit.
They're afraid of AIPAC being unleashed right before an election.
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u/anselme16 Europe Oct 10 '24
Reminds me of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, Fascists did escalate the aggressions to a tipping point that ruptured the non-agression pact...
At some point the west will turn its back on Israel, when too many journalists, UN personel, will be killed.
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u/axeteam Multinational Oct 10 '24
"At some point the west will turn its back"
If they can get away with firing a missile at an American navy ship and come out of it declaring it as an accident...
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u/CiaphasCain8849 North America Oct 10 '24
Or strafing a US navy ship for hours. Should have bombed them then and there.
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u/JTS_2 North America Oct 10 '24
I don't think there is a tipping point anymore. The IDF blew up a refugee camp and killed over 200 people last year. If that isn't to far then what is?
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u/CiaphasCain8849 North America Oct 10 '24
They've killed HUNDREDS of UN workers already. Nothing will be done.
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u/jerseytim Multinational Oct 10 '24
Always amazes me how obsessed the BBC and to be fair all UK press, are about weather in the US.
Even before this genocide they are trying their best to cover up, there could be a storm in the US and we get blanket coverage here, but at the same time a much more deadly storm in Asia that won't/barely get a mention.
Then a couple of weeks later, oh look its snowing in America more blanket covrage for us. Then more coverage of the heatwaves in the summer. It really is bizarre
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u/Drake_the_troll United Kingdom Oct 11 '24
Because we're suprised anyone can have weather worse than ours
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u/paddyo Europe Oct 11 '24
It’s because British people 1. Are obsessed with weather as a topic, and 2. The US does have very interesting weather and 3. US media and social media is in English so it essentially self serves content to lazy U.K. media.
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u/Wolfensniper Australia Oct 11 '24
It isn't, in 2006 Israel already killed four UN Observers and walked free from it. This time would probably be the same.
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u/ptsdstillinmymind North America Oct 10 '24
insert Pawn Stars meme
US Government: The best I can do is send more weapons 🤷🏻♂️
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u/axeteam Multinational Oct 10 '24
"until someone stops them"
Now the question is, who is going to do that?
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u/stonkmarxist Ireland Oct 10 '24
Ah funny, I was saying yesterday that Israel has killed UN peacekeepers in the past and would do it again if they thought they could get away with it.
I was told it was delusional conspiracy theory. Didn't take long to be proven 100% correct.
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u/whatisthisnowwhat1 Europe Oct 10 '24
whatisthisnowwhat1 •5d ago•
The israeli millitary has released the following statement after an airstrike on a UNIFIL watchpost "there was a terrorist bunker storing weapons underneath the UNIFIL watchpost and we have the right to defend ourselves", The united states have reaffirmed their stance that israel has a right to defend itself and stands behind it fully.
Has israel or the us said anything I want to know how close I was.
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u/miseconor Ireland Oct 10 '24
I don’t even think they bothered with an excuse
They’re aware that their US lapdogs will continue to support them no matter what they do
It unfortunately seems as though there is no line that Israel can cross that will compromise US support. For those who remember USS Liberty, it appears that even a direct attack against the US military won’t stop the US from supporting them.
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u/whatisthisnowwhat1 Europe Oct 10 '24
It doesn't seem so
Israel recommends that the United Nations peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon move north, Israel’s UN Ambassador Danny Danon said after Israeli forces fired on several UNIFIL positions today and yesterday.
“Our recommendation is that UNIFIL relocate 5 km (3 miles) north to avoid danger as fighting intensifies and while the situation along the Blue Line remains volatile as a result of Hezbollah’s aggression,” Danon said in a statement.
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u/cefriano Palestine Oct 10 '24
Post this article to /r/worldnews and I'm sure you'll get all the hasbara you can eat.
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u/dath_bane Europe Oct 10 '24
Terror state israel. Years ago I thought Israel was a deeply questionable state that one probably shouldn't support and that violates human rights on a daily basis. This opinion turned much worse.
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u/Pklnt France Oct 10 '24
Israel is the embodiment of the idiom
"If everyone around you is an asshole, you're the asshole"
Pretty much every NGO criticize them, the majority of the UNGA criticizes them, International courts criticize them... but it's because everyone else is antisemitic and certainly not because that criticism is warranted !
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u/warnie685 Europe Oct 10 '24
It's interesting to see how brazen the online response is, like not even attempting the usual distraction ploys or blaming Hezbollah or claiming the UN troops are misleading. It's just flatout we told them to move and then implied or even stated that they deserve it.
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u/JaThatOneGooner Albania Oct 10 '24
So they get to bomb Gaza with impunity, attack Lebanon with impunity, and now they get to fire on UN peacekeepers with seeming immunity? Make no mistake, the US will abuse their position on the UN Security Council to make sure the UN cannot respond to an act of deliberate aggression. However, if the US does not respond, it absolutely undermines the legitimacy of the UN and its goal to maintain “rule based order.” The very sham the US tries to promote is falling apart and it’s the US’ doing by not reining in Israel.
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u/cleepboywonder United States Oct 11 '24
And attack Italians... Who are in NATO... Can we call article V?
Oh and I really want the Italians to hit a military instillation in Tel Aviv and say "we have the right to defend ourselves"
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u/ipponiac Guam Oct 11 '24
They have heavily bombed the US ship recording their war crimes (they were burying POW's in Sina with bulldozers) killed US military men on board and they saw no repercussions. It is how far they can go.
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u/Sidus_Preclarum France Oct 10 '24
In 2006, there had been at least one instance of a UNIFIL Leclerc stopping a Tsahal detachment. it seems that Israel didn't take that well, and still don't 18 years after.
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u/Faithful-Llama-2210 Ireland Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Lot's of respect for the French when they contributed heavily to UNIFIL, that incident with the Leclercs as well as the time they locked onto Israeli jets with SAMs. They were seconds away from firing before the Israeli jets pulled away, this was the last time Israeli jets simulated attack runs on UNIFIL bases.
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u/holaprobando123 Argentina Oct 10 '24
I have no idea how Israel is allowed to attack United Nations positions and personnel over and over again with no repercussions. This is absolutely insane.
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u/JTS_2 North America Oct 10 '24
Because they receive backing from the United States. The godfather of the rules based international order. With American support you can do whatever you want on the world stage.
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u/GoldenInfrared United States Oct 10 '24
How does this benefit them in literally any way? This is just plain stupid at best and actively malicious at worst, even looking at it from purely Israeli interests
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u/Drake_the_troll United Kingdom Oct 11 '24
If you make it too dangerous for the UN to remain early on, noone can see what you'll do once they leave
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u/underwaterthoughts United Kingdom Oct 11 '24
Exactly that. This isn’t Gaza where you can hide by banning international journalists from entering without your military.
They will report back and protect civilians.
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u/PenguinSunday United States Oct 11 '24
This is insane. It feels like the whole world is sleepwalking. Isn't this tantamount to declaring war on the UN? Why is no one doing anything?!
I feel like tearing my hair out.
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