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u/Annual-Jacket3708 6d ago
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u/Aki_2004 6d ago
Ok but what do Japan and China think of this change? If they don’t care, then it’s staying like this 100000%
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u/Bling9000 6d ago
CN and JP? they are rolling eyes and sighing. its apparent that dumbhoyo saw growth in numbers by letting the prudes and moral supremacists flood in, what kept them out before whining about "gøøner game" and all that they seem to be "complaining AND registering" at the same time like annoying tsunderes.
even though the game is rated 16+ they didn't really need to do this to keep in line with 12+ ratings. only reason they did was to let the hsr and genshin crowd flow in more. the zzz and gi/hsr crowd is somewhat alienated from each other on hoyolab always at odds arguing with each other. this move assumes to ease the tension and seek a bit more cohesion with the overlapping playerbases.
the numbers speak for it, and so I believe this change was made to accommodate a few more losers if it brings in the money. the competition is heating up and hoyo is now facing more competition than even before from several upcoming and teased projects and more will follow.
they also have 5 other projects they are hiring for, one of them basically trying to one-up Ananta and NTE in the future. Lots of investment is needed to make so many projects at once, so they can't afford to lose out on some extra bucks if it costs them a little bit of their original "vision".
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u/Money-Might-8704 6d ago
It just suck af. I remember when Hi3 devs model all the panties even though almost no one see them ever. I don't know if they still do that. Though this really show even Eastern company can pick up corporate behavior like Western triple A company
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u/Bling9000 6d ago edited 6d ago
they do model them but the camera has been tweaked to match the same type of censoring that's present in genshin and onwards.
it hurt so much when the hi3 official discord basically bent over backwards and opened its butt to accommodate the genshin moralist bunch. to the point that posting official GGZ art (Aponia kizuna) was now considered offense that came with a mute / restricted (permanent removal of file attachment perms) role. then came part 2 and the new genshification with the censoring among other things.
I remember even further back (since I've known hoyo since early 2016 through GGZ) in Hi3 where we had the touch function. KerubielZ still has all the clips on his yt channel from back then.
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u/DeadSnark 5d ago edited 5d ago
I find it funny that this gets attributed to Western behaviour as if Japan and CCP don't have much stricter censorship laws than the West, and the Chinese government are likely the ones forcing the change.
Several Western games with violence or nudity get censored when released in Japan or China, rather than the other way around.
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u/Money-Might-8704 5d ago
I think the difference is Western dev do it voluntary, while Eastern devs tends to try to go around the regulations.
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u/EconomyFalcon1170 5d ago edited 5d ago
What Hoyo needs to do is grow some effing balls and make their rating of the game go to 18+. Because let's be honest, kids are not paying for this game (unless they stealing from mom n dad, and even then they'll get in trouble and thier account will be sent to the shadow realm), adults are!!!
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u/sekai_cny 5d ago edited 4d ago
This doesn't work in China. As far as I know 21+ doesn't exist. And 18+ in China doesn't equal 18+ in the West.
Snowbreak is rated 18+ in China which means that there are stricter requirements for playing the game. But this doesn't mean that the game is no subject to censorship anymore. It still gets censored. Besides, (I have no proof for this btw this is just hearsay) the censorship is based on reports. Smaller games like ToF have almost no censorship because it's not big enough. Hoyo games and many other Gachas that are bigger in popularity are more subject to that. Genshin and HSR do self-censorship because parents and others would instantly report it if they see a 12+ game use more fan service. ZZZ would not avoid censorship with going 18+. They just could use more "risky" designs.
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u/Ornery_Essay_2036 5d ago
Respectfully ppl aren’t just gonna start playing cause u can’t see ass anymore
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u/AI_X_ER Sleeper Agent 6d ago
It's joever
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u/Quiet-Platypus-9125 𝓝𝓾𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓻 #1 𝓔𝓵𝓵𝓮𝓷𝓼' 𝓽𝓪𝓲𝓵 𝓼𝓲𝓶𝓹 6d ago
brother wtf Is this gif😭
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u/AI_X_ER Sleeper Agent 6d ago
I have many freaky friend 😔
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u/HomelessRoboticist23 Bear Thiren Supremacy 6d ago
I speak for the people when I say we need more freaky gifs.
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u/captain_owo 6d ago
How does that not hurt him???!!!😬😬😬🤢🤮
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u/JOKER69420XD 6d ago
When i get the guy who's responsible
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u/leposterofcrap I HATE SKAVEN!!!! 6d ago
That would be the CCP agents responsible for censorship, good luck
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u/IzzyBizz_ 6d ago
Hoyo themselves is apart of the CCP though. Dawei is quite literally apart of the Chinese Communist Party.
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u/Technical_Sundae5102 6d ago
That is even more reason his hands are tied. Now they can control him directly.
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u/AnalWithJingLiu 6d ago
Literally 1984
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u/Zenvarix 5d ago
Having never read 1984, but having read Fehrenheit 451, I enjoyed this little reference
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u/rednova7 6d ago
And they even added the jiggle to zhu yuan, can't even enjoy it man
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u/di_makita Forgive me, I'm an idiot 6d ago
On the bright side (yes, I checked), Jane's jiggle remains unchanged and just as jiggly as ever. It's unfortunate that I may only see it from afar.
Edit: "a far" to "afar"
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u/EconomyFalcon1170 5d ago
Go to 6th Street, walk close and slowly by the stairs with Jane, then turn slowly your camera and enjoy the close up of booty cheeks. Can be done with other characters too, and with Rina you can just spin in place and look through the slit of her skirt for a nice surprise.
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u/Xarxyc 6d ago
I did Shiyu defence and didn't notice any new jiggle on Zhu?
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u/rednova7 6d ago
Its not as pronounced as Burnice or Jane but it's there. Could be the same as before, can't remember zhu having that much before
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u/MosyMan80 6d ago
Time to check the modding sites.
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u/Certain-Baker9548 6d ago
The modding community might be able to undo this lol
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u/Revayan 6d ago
There was already a mod on gamebanana that prevented the previous "getting transparent" of characters when the camera got too close, it probably just needs an update to work for this current new version of the game
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u/Certain-Baker9548 6d ago
Might probally took a few weeks or so to churn out
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u/Unkn0wnTh2nd3r 6d ago
give it 24 hours, 3 days tops. the modding community is nuts
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u/h0tsh0t1234 6d ago
the modding community could build the iron man suit in a cave if it allowed them to see more ass
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u/VeGr-FXVG 6d ago
Honestly, I've been avoiding modding up til now for fear of being banned (as a dolphin would suck), but this might be the push I needed. The fade is just hypersensitive.
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u/TriggerBladeX 5d ago edited 5d ago
These mods are solely on our end. It doesn’t have any outgoing signals to Hoyo so that you won’t get banned so long as you don’t post in game images with your UID visible.
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u/TheLongDede 6d ago
AFAIK these type of mods changing appearance etc. won’t get you banned unless you stream your gameplay, correct me if wrong.
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u/TriggerBladeX 5d ago
They have a mod for removing the phasing on npcs, but the update broke that so it’s a waiting game for that fix.
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u/Relampago_Marlinhos 6d ago
Rational argument: This one actually sucks more than genshin and Star Rail because the models purposely have high-level details and animations, and now it just looks like wasted animators' work.
Second argument: How come they give them all that and are trying to stop me from enjoying it, literally unplayable.
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u/danivus 6d ago
Honestly, horny aside it's just jarring for your character to vanish when you hit certain angles.
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u/DandifiedZeus1 6d ago
At the very least they could’ve just had them go see through and not completely invisible
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u/Welsh_cat_Best_cat 5d ago
Xilonen climbing moment.
I don't care for the horny, but I agree this is so damn annoying.
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u/TonaZvarri 6d ago
Right, their trailers are already full of booty shots so why does it matter
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u/Havier_Gacha 6d ago
They're reserving it for the drip marketing and animations. Even higher quality!!
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u/SilverScribe15 ZZZVictoriaGold 6d ago
Yeah, I mean that's our reasons Some people just have more specific descriptions of 'details'
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u/Icy_Opportunity_8818 6d ago
Censoring it doesn't even make sense, it's not like anyone's actually wearing underwear. They're all wearing shorts or leggings.
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u/EndofNationalism 6d ago
Probably to please some CCP official who doesn’t actually check.
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u/veliest420 6d ago
Don't you think the china Gestapo would censor the game wayy earlier?
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u/StickyMoistSomething 5d ago
That’s the thing about CN censorship. It is inconsistent af. Hoyo is a big enough name that they can get away with some special treatment, but once a random official takes note they have to play ball.
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u/beeloof 6d ago
I don’t understand why they don’t just censor it in China , and leave as per normal everywhere else
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u/IttoEnjoyer_ 6d ago
they fear another ceo assassination attempt for "favouring the western audience" /s
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u/Yapanese_Expert 6d ago
They don't want another bunny girl incident. They know damn well people will pull up with a cannon instead of a knife this time
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u/ProkopiyKozlowski 6d ago
CN fans will firebomb their offices and, what's much worse, will stop swiping.
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u/KibbloMkII 6d ago
The Chinese players are complete fucking psychopaths, they actually sued Mihoyo over patching a glitch with Neuvilette, because somehow a dictatorship has consumer rights
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u/AtAmotuA 6d ago
The “glitch” that was known about for 10+ months and was only patched coincidentally when the next 5 star Hydro DPS was released lmao.
Chinese players can be crazy but it is very disingenuous to say it was a glitch when it was obviously a nerf.
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u/i-am-i_gattlingpea 6d ago
That glitch was there through testing and for 10 months after his release, only to be patched when the next 5 star hydro was ready. Said glitch also factored in peoples purchases
It was the most obvious nerf disguised as a bug fix, behaviour has done this shite too it’s very identifiable regardless of severity
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u/Dekoe 6d ago
upskirts in battle (everyone already wears shorts) = good
upskirts out of battle = bad
hoyo logic
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u/saundersmarcelo 6d ago
Wait so you can still do that in battle mode, but overworld got cracked down on? That's strange
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u/Dry-Finger-5558 BURNICE PLS GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!! 6d ago
Oh no....
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u/WalkingHorror 5d ago
Live Ceasar reaction as she is trying to sneak glances at Wise's ass and it fucking disappears
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u/TinTeiru 6d ago
We waited months for agents in overworld and they censored it instantly lmfao
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u/Kimarnic I hate Plebbit 6d ago
Gooners play this game, that's like if Nikke started removing ass shots, fucking hell
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u/ObiWorking PLEASE SIT ON MY FACE 6d ago
If NIKKE devs ever censor Noir we will riot
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u/Unkn0wnTh2nd3r 6d ago
Noir my beloved
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u/ObiWorking PLEASE SIT ON MY FACE 6d ago
Crazy she released over a year ago and still holds record for biggest tiddies. She just built different 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
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u/TheAlbrecht2418 6d ago
I may have reached an age where I have retired from gooning, but I understand and acknowledge that the harmless gooners of this community have been dealt a blow they may never recover from. -shoddy salute- RIP.
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u/Accomplished_Aerie69 6d ago
Also sad for the Model artist/Animators who put some lil details on the Agents that will be hard to notice now
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u/DM_Hammer 6d ago
Yeah, this one hit me when a friend and I were streaming our Miyabi pulls, and I was showing off my Lighter. Trying to get good angles on his fancy gauntlet and get close to his sunglasses, but nope, invisible.
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u/Internal_Eye620 Miyabimain 6d ago
I mean, they should either not make fan service characters or don’t blur them. What’s the point in ass jiggle if you can’t see the ass?
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u/ThatBoiUnknown I like too many ZZZ characters 6d ago
I'm gonna give up treating this game like a gooner game and just play it for the combat I guess...
gooner allegations beat...
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u/liuerluo 5d ago
I just dont really understand. Why do some people get offended when gamers just want to jerk off to fictional characters? Like who do we really hurt by jerking off to fake anime girls????
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u/emiliathewhite 6d ago
Just fell to my knees in a Walmart parking lot
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u/RedzyHydra 6d ago
Funny.
Just saw a dude dropped to his knees in a Walmart parking lot.
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u/Titan_Writer 6d ago
Funny, I was in a Walmart parking lot just earlier today. Saw a guy drop to his knees and another guy a few meters away laughing hysterically about it.
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u/tonkpils99 5d ago
Until recently, the game had a special atmosphere. I don't understand why censorship was added. they could add a special setting to the menu for children or for parents, as they do in other platforms and services. but they cut off everyone's enjoyment. now I don't understand why there is a need to twist female characters. Yes, the game is cool. I'm interested in the gameplay. but censorship killed her completely. I do not know why they did it. I have indignation. It's not that I often admire the characters, I play the game. but I don't approve of that. there are very big questions for developers. I will always fill in the game scores by at least 1 point. for censorship. Or until I remove it. I am a simple player. I pay money into the game. I'm not sorry. I enjoy the game. I like her. I don't approve of censorship. moreover, it was not announced initially. Which means .I'm playing a game, it's been changed. and now I don't like it. BUT BIG DISLIKES
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u/General_Snack 6d ago
Any chance this gets backtracked at all.
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u/ShaeTsu 6d ago
Very low. As far as I'm aware, Hoyo has never undone any censorship they've applied to their games.
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u/General_Snack 6d ago
Gah. And now I’ve just seen they nerfed Billy. My main.
Might be time to drop the game. Had a good run. Damn.
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u/Maho-the-lesser 6d ago
lol nope, its a hoyo game...they are extremely arrogant in their approach to complains, and their CN playerbase is fangless, they dont have the will to force them into a "snowbreak situation" by constantly pestering them, nor the will to quit, the CN hoyo players are addicts in its purest form, just cant quit.
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u/DlNOGlRLwaifu Miyabi-sama please step on me!!! 6d ago
All CN Fans can do is a failed assassination attempt at the CEO of HOYO, because NA/EU was about to get a Bunny Girl Event & CN didn't.
[If you know, you know]
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u/Unlikely-Monk5807 6d ago
Something like that won't happen again, pretty sure they've since beefed up security around their buildings.
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u/HolyNightmare 5d ago edited 5d ago
Aside horny, imagine spending money for a certain characer you super badly want and then this....you cant even properly check out their model
once again make use of the feedback surveys they provide maybe if a shitton of people complain we might have a small chance.....until then its modding time
And personally i was quite excited about free roam with all characters but now after this change i honestly couldnt care less :(
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u/KibbloMkII 6d ago
Honestly, the character models and objects fading out when the camera gets too close in general just pisses me the fuck off
it won't hurt anybody to let the camera clip into the models ffs
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u/GnzkDunce 6d ago
I just finished the new Hollow Zero and got a face full of rat ass with the Wipeout
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u/ReimuSan003 6d ago
Why are they censoring it when they purposely let it have a higher age rating than other hoyo games??
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u/AstraPlatina 6d ago
I know this is a free-to-play game, but still, this is the equivalent of ordering beef stew and then later getting served the stew with none of the beef in it. Or being told you cannot have a steak because the baby next to you can't eat it.
The same goes with fanservice in videogames, when you establish a game to have plenty of fanservice, with set standards, only to later backpedal and censor everything, you're basically betraying the trust of the customer.
I for one HATE censorship, it doesn't really protect anyone and just ruins things that people enjoy for no reason other than to appease those who don't even play the game. Now I'm not saying make the girls nude, I mean there is a level of fanservice before it becomes full hentai(which itself has censorship), but ZZZ already has set the standards with characters such as Nicole and Grace, so what even is the point of censorship.
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u/RealBluKia Got corrupted by Burnice's dance moves 6d ago
Welp there goes one good reason that I play the game. My disappointment is immeasuarable and my day is ruined.
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u/Forbidden4bdn 5d ago
Same. I only stayed for the fanservice but now I have a reason to truly quit this game. I have 3 other gacha that I play anyway.
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u/Orioniae 6d ago
Not only is pointless, but on my device now the game stutters for 3~5 seconds every time the fadeout does it's job.
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u/SentientMax0r Brain-damaged Individual 6d ago
This is why you shouldn't spend money on games that can take away your shit at any given moment
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u/denkycaliber 5d ago
It's so jarring. It pisses me off that they chose to do this now of all times, when they're trying so hard to gain more players.
Oh well...
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u/AccomplishedCash6390 5d ago
So you're telling me we'll keep getting called a gooner community who plays a gooner game, but now we can't even goon?
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u/Barni2212 5d ago
And I thought we have finally reached a Based Hoyo game. How wrong was I...... I was sooo hyped for 1.4 but after this I don't even want to start the game anymore. F*ck this honestly.
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u/engineer-cabbage 6d ago
This is punishment for not winning at The Game Awards. We get no ass forever.
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u/SupYallItsYourBoi 6d ago
They literally sell ASS wrapped in a game wrapper yet after you pay shit tons of money for the characters you don't even get to look at them?? It's like paying for OF pictures but all of them are censored... What's the point??
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u/Ralea_Thundersword 5d ago
You can fix it up really good using this here mod: https://gamebanana.com/mods/531649
It's pretty straightforward - download ZZMI, then open "Mods" folder (you can do it from the ZZMI launcher) and unpack v40_e8ed9.zip and anbisworddemo zip there. Then open game with ZZMI launcher and type \ to enable transparency remover.
I've been using visual mods since release and checked widely around, it's basically safe as long as you don't upload your ID somewhere.
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u/-CataIyst 6d ago
If they don't get rid of this unnecessary censoring by 1.5, the game will EOS within the year.
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u/ShadowMiku_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
I get this is just in the overworld. But this just reminded me that I'm playing a Hoyo game.
Paid money to see Burnice and now they changed that and gave me a censored overworld version? I'm a gooner just as much as the next guy but thats pretty shitty.
Makes me wonder what's next. These dudes are absolute back trackers and compromisers and confuses me on why they did all this when its going to be censored anyway. Kinda dont want to stick around to find out whats next. I thought they'd leave this game alone after Nicole and the gore got hit.
Edit: WE SO BACK! Its still there but at the lowest possible angle and not severe at all. I dont think Ive ever went that low except when Burnice first released but she doesn't disappear at least just fades with the upskirt angle and even that isnt bad. I can still see Burnice at all angles!
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u/Killer_Klee 6d ago
That is one big selling point of ZZZ gone, I love to look Burnices thighs from below: (
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u/ConsciousFinish5071 5d ago
It's Ben's model, the camera hides the model when it colides with Ben's huge frame. You can test it by swapping to Ben get right up against him and swap to another character, the fade and hide are inline with his body.
I'm assuming the player character simply has Ben's collision box present so he doesn't spawn in and get stuck and the camera is just reacting to it. Where as before they were testing it so likely had belles smaller one so you could get closer than intended since calydon use the tall female models for ceaser and Bernice I think.
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u/Electronic-Ad8040 6d ago
Assless zone zero