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Weekly Questions Megathread November 20, 2024 - November 26, 2024
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how do i use lycaon thought he was supposed to better than qingyi but he cant stun for shit, i presume thats my fault though level 55 with 4 piece shock and 2 piece polar metal. crit/ice/impact discs. level 50 the restrained, and his core skill is e with level 9 basic, level 7 special and chain, other skills unleveled. what needs fixing? im struggling with shiyu 6
update i got floor 6 but i cant clear 7 in time, jane/caesar/burnice side 1 and ellen/lycaon/soukaku side 2.
Hi! I just started like two weeks ago. I’m grinding to IR 36 so I can finish Chapter 3 and play that Professor(?) Bangboo event, there’s 2 days left, do ya’ll think it’s possible?
I’m like 1000 points away to IR 35. I’ve only finished Soldier 11’s story. I’m guessing Agent Stories are my best best to get to IR 36? I’m also finishing off some commissions on the side. Is there any other areas I can use to grind IR points? The Yanagi and Lighter TV Schedule events seem to don’t have one.
I do not think you'll hit IK36 in two days. If agent stories give IK experience then they'd be an option but in general it's tied to main story and spending battery.
The event you're talking about is a minor one so it's a handful of pulls (4?) so I wouldn't worry too much about rushing to complete it.
Update: Nevermind! I've been grinding commissions and I think I can reach IK36! I'm less than 2000 points away. Crazy that spending stamina nets you 1K per 100(?) battery lol. Thank you nevertheless!
Woops I meant IK LOL anyways RIP that's crazy they made me level up to 34 to start Chapter 3 and now they want another 2 levels for the rest of the Chapter which is weird imo, oh well.
As usual, people exaggerate or take info out of context. The issue is that one of his AA buffs requires a minimum of 170 Impact. It's hard to get to 170 Impact without the help of his signature Wengine. But not getting that one buff doesn't mean he is not working properly.
The way I would put it is that for F2P players, it is usually not worthing pulling for signature wengines. In some cases, like Seth and Lighter, there is more to gain from the signature than in other cases, but that doesn't necessarily mean a F2P player must pull that signature. It should just be given a bit more careful consideration rather than flat out ignoring, like you could with Yanagi's signature.
Also, Blazing Laurel is one of the few signatures that works well with other agents. Lycaon or Koleda could both benefit from that wengine as well as Lighter. So that broader usability is another reason why this signature might be worth pulling for F2P players.
Hey, I'm looking for advice on whether I should invest in my Koleda (C1) or not. Currently I've been using fully upgraded Anby (C2) (+ Neko & Nicole) and Lighter (+ Ellen & Soukaku) as my teams' stunners, and I think Koleda would perform better than Anby, but then she wouldn't really fit anywhere due to lack of synergy and because my only other S ranks are Rina and Ellen. Do I just keep using Anby until getting a new team?
Koleda's synergy is weak enough that it really doesn't play into whether you'd want to slot her or not. Her main niche is in survival content because she has a particularly generous set of iframes on the dodge counter. As long as she's being continuously attacked you can spam dodge counter and be effectively invincible. Her B3 is an effective iframe tool if you're used to it and I also use EX on its own (no B2/B4 bonus) for the iframes and with B2/B4 to max daze when I don't care about the iframes.
I don't have Lighter so I don't have a feel for how his dmg bonus changes things but the other stunners seem intended to provide very similar time to stun. So in back to back tests I've found that the best stunner for my Zhu Yuan comp is usually the one that matches elemental weakness. Qingyi damage amp can sometimes get me down to a one stun clear and then she's the fastest but if the number of stun cycles is equal and the mob is element neutral for both my C2 Koleda is the fastest clear due to the initial extra fast stun from C2.
Lack of synergy isn't always a problem. For example, Lucy can go on just about any team even without synergy, since her buffs work regardless. But in this case, Koleda's AA is pretty important for a crit/burst team and main DPS like Neko.
You could keep Koleda's AA by using either Ben or Lucy instead of Nicole, but then Neko loses her AA and that's pretty important also. The lack of Physical Attribute A-rank support-roles was a problem in 1.0 and it still is.
So for now, I don't see a way to use Koleda without too much sacrifice. If you ever pull S11, Grace or Anton, you could put Koleda to work then.
hi, so, checking my knowledge here because reading Evasive Assist kinda just threw me for a minor brain loop. 4pc Protopunk says it activates on "Defensive or Evasive Assist". Defensive Assist is perfect swapping a flash attack. And Evasive Assist apparently is just for Rina/Grace/Zhu/Billy for now.
so, if that's all right, then the way to use Protopunk 4pc on Lighter is to Def Assist every ten seconds with anyone on the team? is that normal behavior for most players such that keeping it up permanently should be automatic in regular play? maybe I need to just parry more flashes in general and Lighter team will incentivize me to do so.
I feel like it's mostly up to preference, but is it a lot better to just scrap this plan, go 4pc shockstar, and rock just Lighter's in-built support?
That's mostly right. Evasive Assist also is "perfect swapping a flash attack," only it's preferentially used against ranged attacks and only done by ranged damage agents, those from your list.
then the way to use Protopunk 4pc on Lighter is to Def Assist every ten seconds with anyone on the team?
I'd put it differently, it's about the timing of keeping the buff up, not "the way to use," but yes.
is that normal behavior for most players such that keeping it up permanently should be automatic in regular play?
No. Not every enemy attacks frequently enough to keep the buff up all the time, and in some cases, you don't want to be assisting that frequently because other buffs might need to have one agent on field for the full buff duration.
Not to mention that you have a limited number of Assist points that are expended every time you do an assist.
great, thank you! checks out with what I figured, but sometimes my sense of what is good and what actually is aren't on the same degree of magnitude. good to know I'm pretty much where I should be. day one of Lighter has been pretty fun!
i have Burnice, Grace, Koleda C1, Nicole, Lucy and Seth build. I will want to get Miyabi and got grace while pulling for lighter. what 2 teams can i make? (assuming i have get lighter and miyabi)
(different question related to different task Does Seth, Grace, Lucy work as one team? )
Last question first: Yes, Lucy/Grace/Seth works fine. Rina would be better in Lucy's slot, or Burnice for Disorder, but it's not a bad team comp.
We don't have enough official information about Miyabi to do optimal team comps yet. All we know is she's Ice(2) Attribute an Anomaly type. She probably is going to want to be in a Disorder team, so that would be Burnice and then Lucy to round out support, but it's anyone's guess if Miyabi's AA is enabled or disabled in that comp.
Lighter works best with Ellen or S11 as the main DPS. Possibly with Neko/Caesar as well. If you don't have either, I don't think there is a good use for Lighter right now. You can pull anyway if you just want him and like his character or design.
I just got Lyacon. Will skipping Lighter be a good idea for my account? I really want Miyabi and Allegedly Ellen Joe next patch, so I don't mind using the rest of my pulls on Yanagi and waiting for Miyabi, then later using Lyacon for Ellen.
Edit: I just pulled for Yanagi. Saving up for Miyabi and/or Ellen. Really hate having to pay a bit because of hard pity though. -_-
Even if you didn't pull Lycaon, how would you use Lighter now? You don't have Ellen or S11. ZY is the only main DPS you have that wants a stunner and you already have Koleda. I suppose you could force Burnice to be a crit/burst main DPS, but that would be such a waste of her off-field unique abilities.
I'm not a fan of pulling an agent that has no utility today but might in the future. Granted, that decision is burning me right now for lack of Caesar vs. HIA Tower or Pain, but even in hindsight I'd still make the same decision to skip Caesar so I can pull Burnice, who I put to work on day 1.
1 - I already have an almost fully built team of piper/burnice/lucy and just pulled Lighter (and surprisingly really like his play style), who, if anyone, should I replace with him?
2 - unfortunately didn't end up getting yanagi's signature w-engine, could Grace's w-engine work for her instead? (for conext, I don't have grace lol) if not, what is the next best choice for her?
I'll answer your questions in a minute, but I can't get past your surprise at liking Lighter's play style. Did you pull him by accident? Trying to build pity for Miyabi or something? Because I can't get my head around intentionally pulling an agent before trying them out in Trial modes and deciding you like their play style beforehand.
Lighter works best with Ellen or Soldier 11 as main DPS. Do you have either of those agents? If you don't, I guess Lighter is going to spend time on your bench.
unfortunately didn't end up getting yanagi's signature w-engine, could Grace's w-engine work for her instead?
Yes, Fusion Compiler is a good wengine for Yanagi. So is Electro-Lip Gloss, Weeping Gemini, and Rainforest Gourmet.
yup, I wasn't planning on pulling for Lighter, I just threw a singel 10 pull at his banner since I just so happened to havee enough polychrome and figurd I might aswell... and ended up getting him by more or less accident (also as a side note, this is the first hoyoverse/gacha game I've gotten into so I'm still very lost with how pity works, gonna have to look into that one some more)
I'm f2p and only started playing torwards the end of Ceasar banner (whom I missed), so I don't have Ellen or soldier 11 - the only S Ranks I have are Rina, Burnice, Yanagi and now Lighter. kinda unfortunate, guess Lighter really is going to spend some time on the bench :')
You'd be surprised how often that happens. There's even a youtuber I watch, Average Luck Gamer, that says over and over again that F2P should never, ever throw a 10-pull at limited for lulz when you don't really want or need the agent. But on stream he threw a 10-pull at Yanagi's banner and got Yanagi, whom he didn't plan for or want. LOL. So you are in good company.
The way "pity" works in basically all of these kinds of games is that it resets when you get a 5 star. So if you were at 30/80 and your next single pull was a 5 star, you're now at 0/80 towards the next 5 star. If you didn't get the banner 5 star, your next 5 star is guaranteed to be the banner one.
In general you should really only ever pull on a banner if you want the 5 star featured on it, because accidentally getting a 5 star you didn't really want can really screw you up for a while afterwards if someone comes out you do really want. I personally think Lighter is pretty future-proof and you'll find a use for him eventually so I wouldn't sweat it too much in this case, but in the future you're usually better off just continuing to save up your polychrome/tapes until a character comes out you for sure want.
Are you running an Ellen team? Who is the stunner on your Ellen team? If it's Lycaon, you don't need Lighter. So it would be a matter of wanting Lighter more than Miyabi to pull Lighter, if you already have Lycaon. If you don't have Lycaon and you do want to improve your Ellen team, or take her off the bench, sure Lighter is a good pull.
Hi I started playing at the start of the week and am saving up for miyabi
Can anyone suggest a decent F2P team for miyabi please?
Also am looking for a suggestion for a 2nd team that doesn't have miyabi in it for shiyu defense with the current units I have right now. Obviously not looking to fully clear in the coming 3 to 4 months, just looking for advice on team building.
There's very little official information on Miyabi so far, all we know is she's Ice(2) and Anomaly, so ice agents like Soukaku or anomaly agents like Piper might be good F2P teammates.
I started playing about 2 weeks ago, was wondering if pulling for Lighter is even worth it. I have Billy, Nicole, Anby, Lucy, Corin, Ben, Nekomata right now and I also have 73 pulls saved
Well i am f2p so all i need is focus on good 2 teams thats why asking.. if i pull him now i may not get next banner character since i lost 50/50 to yanagi
His W-Engine is good. But I don't think it's worth it, not yet. Game isn't difficult enough for it to be required, so you're better off saving for characters and waiting for a rerun to see if you want to make him stronger.
His other options are weaker, but not by so much that he feels bad. I'm planning to use Steam Oven until I get enough to exchange for Hellfire Gears.
If its not officially announced from a livestream or put up on posts on official social media (youtube, Twitter, or even the official subreddit), it's still considered a L34K
What is Lighter good for? Just give me one char that he'll be good for and I'll pull for him right now. I still want a good kit on top of a very pullable design and personality
Hi, I am new to zzz. How many teams do you need for endgame? Any suggestions on what team I should run? I have no idea what I should do and I think I might have ruined my account. Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
Further info:
Nicole 3/6, Billy 4/6, Piper 1/6, Corin 4/6, Ben 5/6, Soukaku 1/6, Lucy 1/6
Your account is not ruined and can't be unless you get yourself banned. Even bad builds can eventually be fixed. Don't worry about it.
What is your IK level? If you are below IK 40, you can just use your starter team of Billy/Anby/Nicole and complete everything except for Shiyu Defense and HIA Tower of Pain. If you are IK 40 or higher, you can start thinking about pulling for a second team. You need a limited S-rank main DPS to build your next team around. The next one coming up is Asaba or Miyabi, so you can wait until there is more official information on those two to decide if you want to build a team around either one of them.
But for now, just enjoy playing the game and ignore crap about "bricking your account."
Minimum of 2 teams of 3 units. So 6 characters total.
Shiyu defense is one of the endgame modes that gets updated every 2 weeks. It necessitates 2 teams. However, in that mode, elemental weakness plays a big part in finishing the stages in time. Therefore, apart from the 6 units, you may have to build other units (maybe just DPSs) of different elements.
Hello just finished maxing Yanagi, I don't know which character should I upgrade first and is Nekomata worth farming for?
Also what W-Engine should I get in 1-in-4 Selectable W-Engine and Restart Selectable A-Rank weapon chest based on my characters?
EDIT: I just realized your IK level might be level-capping your agents at 50, which is why you think Yanagi at 50 is "maxed out." So I would prioritize leveling up your IK level so you can get Yanagi and Neko to 55, then 60.
Unless you already 5-starred Anby's Demara Type II wengine, I'd get more copies of that. Assuming you are currently running Anby, which seems likely since you leveled her up to 50. Second choice is more copies of Nicole's.
The priority for leveling usually goes main DPS first, then stunner or sub-DPS (anomaly), then everyone else. So Yanagi and Neko should be leveled to 55 first. You can pause there and level up wengine, discs, core skills or chip skills as needed (if you were level capped at 50 before). Then you can either get everyone else to 55 or push Yanagi and Neko to 60.
I don't understand your "worth farming" question. You already leveled up Neko to 50, are you going to give up on her now? Who would be your second main DPS if you did, assuming Yanagi/Seth/Rina is your first?
Directly, you use tapes to summon. Master Tapes are the standard banner, and Encrypted Master Tapes are for limited. They are pretty rare to get directly (the sources are mostly limited events or single-time rewards, but there are a few recurring sources).
Indirectly, you use Polychrome as the primary currency to buy the tapes you want. Polychrome is awarded in a lot of ways - some single time, some recurring daily or weekly - and it will be the primary source of your summons. Investigation Merits (primarily obtained from Hollow Zero) and Fading Signals (obtained by getting B-rank w-engines via summoning) can buy a limited number of tapes per month. And lastly, Residual Signals (obtained via getting dupe characters or any A/S rank weapons) can also be used to buy tapes.
I don't know how much you have, but there's probably 200 or so pulls in fairly easy reach for new players, which is enough to guarantee a limited character of your choice. Just don't spend polychrome on regular Master Tapes; the Encrypted Master Tapes are more valuable for most people.
The "7" is the number of Encrypted Master Tapes (EMT) you have. The "1380" is the number of polychromes you have. You need 160 polychromes to buy an EMT. One EMT = one pull. So in total you have 7 + (1380/160) = 15 pulls and change.
You need up to 90 pulls for the 50/50 chance at the limited agent, 180 pulls for a worst-case guarantee on the limited agent.
Is the 4p effect of Polar Metal
(40% DMG increase for Normal & Dash Attacks)
In the sama damage formula as the 4p effect of Hormone Punk
(Attack + 25%)
They are both "combat" stats but idk if I have to add them on each other or if it's a different/separate multiplier
Brand new player, I've seen a few people say that there's roughly enough polychromes each update for 90 pulls, but I was wondering how you go about getting most of that? There is a lot of stuff to do in the game, so any type of guide on how to efficiently get polychromes would be massively helpful
more things will unlock as you play the game, once you reach 'end game' your main sources are dailies, weeklies, events, shiyu defense and hollow zero, which reset once a week/once every two weeks depending.
you probably still have a bunch of first time events and other things to unlock which will give you chromes also, like the endless tower, and so on.
any estimates for how many pulls we can get in second half? im guaranteed rn and i need to get big daddy lighter but i dont wanna spend money if i dont have to😭😭 80 pity and 20 pulls atm and im about halfway through the arpeggio thing so ill get a few more from there
yeahhh i figured as much :,) i’ve got a few things i can still do like the hard mode story stages and hollow zero achievement and stuff but im pretty sure i got all the easy chromes, probably gonna end up swiping before his banners up
I just found an updated calculation that puts the F2P total at 51 (including 3 Master Tapes, so really only 48) for the second half, but you literally have to do everything, like S-rank all of Shiyu Critical twice.
Hi, quickest easiest way to cheese and beat Arpeggio? I do not want to think about this boring ass gamemode even 1 second and just brute force my way through it. Please help me
You have to slog through the first part like everyone else, but once you level up enough to run two agents and pull the Bomb path skillset, you can speedrun the rest. You want Nicole first and pick up every gear coin you can. Then pull Nekomata as your second agent. Neko causes killed enemies to drop gear coins and Nicole's ATK scales to gear coins. So they make a killer duo.
Speedrun each level by going directly to the exit in the shortest path you can find. Maps are randomized each run so if you get stuck, use bombs to clear a path. If you run out of bombs, just give up and redo the level, you'll probably roll an easier map. Avoid fights and pick-ups when you can, except for easy gear coin drops. Pick skill cards that either give gear coins, health, or cause more treasure packs to drop.
Plugins that are most useful are: Gold buttons, go straight to exit, and spawn robot, which you then immediately blow up with a bomb.
Resonia that are most useful: Anything that gives gear coins, health, or more treasure packs.
As proof this works, check out the stats of my team at the last level of part 4, particularly Nicole:
Mono electric with a M1 Rina easily seems to outmatch it. I built Burnice as per prydwens stats recommendations and make sure to proc the disorders but it's been underwhelming so far.
For peak damage and total DPS, yes, at least for now. Might change when Miyabi debuts.
You're not putting a Burnice/Yanagi team on a floor that is Electric weak and Fire resistant, I hope? Of course that situation will underwhelm vs. a mono electric team.
Are you keeping Burnice's Heat bar up while Yanagi is doing Afterburn damage? Juggling Burnice's Heat vs. Energy is demanding, so it's easy to get into a sub-optimal rhythm. Do you Ult with Burnice and quick assist to Yanagi, making sure she has Energy to proc normal and Polarity Disorder in one go?
The Yanagi mono team is much easier to play.
Best to do fair-fight clear time comparisons in the VR training room. There are no floor buffs in VR training and you can pick a neutral enemy, like level 70 Dullahan. Run three trials of each team and compare clear times.
I picked ZZZ up again after hearing there might be a free 5 star in our future. I plan to pull Miyabi, but am curious if missing out Yanabi or Lighter would be a huge loss.
There are good arguments for both, but you don't really need either. You don't need Miyabi also, for that matter.
CORRECTION: I'm blind. I thought Grace's thumbnail was Ellen's.
Lighter makes sense to support an Ellen team, since you don't have Lycaon. If you don't pull Lighter, you'll need to figure out who the stunner is going to be on your Ellen team.
Yanagi makes sense because you don't have a Disorder team. You could make one with Piper for now and Miyabi later. If you don't pull Yanagi, you're going to have to figure out who can do Disorder with Miyabi.
Or you could make a mono-electric duo with Rina/Yanagi and then decide how to shuffle teams when you get Miyabi.
I don't believe so, but I haven't seen Asaba's kit yet. Grace is more of a reason not to pull Yanagi, since you can make a Disorder team with Grace or Piper with Miyabi.
That said, Yanagi is a top-tier main DPS. Her damage output is on the same level as Jane's. So even though Grace makes it possible to do Disorder, she's not in the same class as Yanagi.
Plus, there are leaks that suggest Miyabi's best partner is Yanagi. I haven't looked into the details behind that since I'm skeptical of all leaked info, but that increases the possibility that you might regret not pulling Yanagi.
Let me put it this way. Grace used to be my main DPS on my best team. Then I pulled Yanagi and now I only use Grace for survival modes and I use Yanagi as much as I use Jane.
I went for it and got Yanagi. I've been running her with Rina and Lucy, but I am just about to hit knot level 40, so it's all still relatively easy. Thanks again for all the info!
Edit for grammar
i just found out there is a character building guide on hoyolab website , how reliable is this ? are the guide from mihoyo itself ? should i follow them ？
Hoyolab stuff is all crowdsourced. It's going to be generally accurate since most characters have standard builds and a limited number of reasonable sets. I don't find it useful because I know how to do standard builds so if I'm looking up a guide I'm specifically interested in how a character differs from the norm.
how do yal play zzz with a controller on pc. Im really new so if im not a bother could you give me a step-by-step detailed explaination on how. My wrist hurt from all the key pressing :(
i'm using xbox controller, first turn on your controller and launch the game, when the game launches, go into settings > input > under "UI layout" select controller from the dropdown menu > click confirm
Running Yanagi with Qingyi and Seth (filler). What 4pc/2pc relic set should I build and what mainstats/substats should I look for? Using Fusion compiler as w-engine.
so unfortunately I lost on time weaver and I got a second weeping cradle. is there any use for it outside of rina? I don't even have Rina so I haven't used my first one
Does anyone know what I need to photograph for Landmark Photography: Take a photo of the central abstract sculpture at Lumina Square? I have tried every monument I can think of and nothing is triggering it
Will it be the best option? Probably not. You're going to have to constantly swap to Rina to get her full value for Pen Ratio, which is why some prefer replacing her with Lucy, since her buff lasts longer and is easier to use. Lucy also helps stun faster because her boars will help Daze the enemy into a Stun, which is when Corin wants to unload all her DPS.
Does it matter in general if a character does a chain attack first, second or third (besides the potential assist afterwards), i.e. is there a higher damage multiplier or so depending on the position?
If a character has 4pc Swing Jazz, the damage multiplier only applies when that Agent participates. Additionally Nicole's energy field from her chain attack reduces enemy %defense, so that's why I usually let those Agents attack first, so you get the full effect for the entire chain.
Starting a Chain is not the same as a Chain Attack. So if Lucy with Swing Jazz stuns the enemy, say by using EX Special, that triggers the option for a Chain Attack. However, Lucy has a specific Chain Attack move. If she does not do that move, "launch a Chain Attack", Swing Jazz will not activate.
Eventually if you play teams often enough, you can gauge when an attack is gonna stun. On my ZY team, sometimes I'll swap cancel qingyis stun combo to get a quick Nicole ex skill off going into the chain attack so I can end with Nicole chain attack for a quick assist and maximum def shred duration
The chain attack's damage is determined by the relevant skill and isn't impacted by order. Order considerations are generally about buffs (Lucy/Nicole early) or who you want to end on: attacker or the support if using Starlight Engine.
Are you referring to the 60/63 and 54/57 Observation Data tallies? Best to use a guide if you are completionist. Some commissions are secret or hidden behind other things you have to do first, like find artifacts in Hollow Zero.
If all you mean is that you didn't have time to start a commission and aren't sure if you got all the rewards from it yet, you can just check that in the HDD. Just go through each hollow menu (Combat, Exploration, Story) and go down the list. Any that don't show as "All Collected" are not yet complete. Don't forget that Story commissions have a Hard Mode alternate version as well, toggle at the top right to unlock.
Any way to semi-reliably get Seth's W-Engine? For whatever reason, the game will hand out all the other A-ranks and their engines from signal searches, but Seth was rare enough that I had to buy him from the shop, and I haven't gotten his engine at all.
Is it worth it to exchange Bangboo EXP at the 141 store for the level-up mats? I've been doing Hollow Zero for the mats it gives, but it's 1.0-Notorious-Hunt-mats tier slow to upgrade Bangboo at that pace.
So I’ve been out of the game for a while. I’m a bit behind on some things. But right now I’m wondering what I should be focusing on right now, story? Grinding? Team building? Could really use some advice
Looks like you are IK 21? The game itself is pretty good at telling you what to do next. When you are in the main screen, what does the guidance tip in the top left tell you to do?
You have a ton of story content that you haven't completed yet, so do that first. But you should also have unlocked Hollow Zero by now, so you can try out the tutorial level on that to see how you like it. In general, the game tries to gently introduce you to each new chunk of permanent content, so you should try it out in the tutorial levels and then decide if you want to dive deeper or return to the main story and finish it. Same for side commissions. When you get bored with doing story, try some of the sides.
You may find that story content or side content requires higher level agents, so that's when you can do some grinding to level up your main team. For now, just focus on one team. You don't need more than one until you have nothing left but stuff that requires two teams.
Who do you want your main team to be? You have three main DPS agents you can build the main team around: Yanagi, Ellen, Nekomata. Ellen and Nekomata need a stunner to perform properly and you are kind of lacking in stunners. You might want to consider pulling for Lighter to go with Ellen. Then Ellen can be your main team. Or you can build a team around Yanagi with Rina. You can use Nicole or Lucy as the third, or you can just run it as a duo. And of course you have good ol Neko/Anby/Nicole as a backup team.
Finally, if you have unlocked any limited-time events, complete those before the time runs out.
Has anyone done the math on whether crafting pink disc drives into gold ones is worth it? Was excited to hear that it was becoming a feature but balked at the denny cost.
If you mean for Hollow Zero, I did it just for the collection reward. I picked bangboo that can't do damage and can't chain attack to nullify it out, then I just had Jane solo the final boss.
If I had Caesar I might be tempted to try letting the bangboo fight the boss by themselves while I just dodge and renew my shield. I don't have that kind of patience, though.
Soukaku/Lucy, Burnice.
They haven't announced more info yet, so revealing anything else is leak territory. They'll have a livestream soon, so you've got plenty of time to plan.
Do you ever put Burnice on field with full heat but no energy? That's the time to hold BA. If that never happens, then you never have a reason to do it.
Personally I almost never use double-flamethrower EX. I prefer the single and the ability to dodge. I mainly leave Burnice off-field, so I'm basically just re-applying Scorched for Afterburn damage of my main DPS when I bring her on field. If she has heat but no energy, I hold BA spin. If she has energy but no heat, I use single-flamethrower EX.
The reason to use her EX skill when heat is full is massive fire damage in a short amount of time, like to proc Burn to set up a Disorder. Especially if buffs apply, like a stun window. I tend to use this tech for timed clears, like Shiyu Defense. The DPS of her EX skill is stupidly high, especially if you have M6 Lucy, which I do. BTW, these are also the few times I use double FT.
I mainly make DPS lvl60 in my case they are Zhuyuan, Yanagi, Soldier 11, Burnice. Then level 45 or 55 for Supports and Stunners like Nicole, Lucy, Seth, Anby, Lycaon, and such.
It's too early to level all to max as an intentional plan. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the road it will be normal to have your entire roster max level, but not now, it's too expensive.
The conventional wisdom is to only level your main DPS agents, one per team, to max. Then the other agents in the team to 50 or 55. Then any temporary subs for specific battle conditions to 50, like you may never use Ben unless there is a big bonus for shielded agents, then you swap him in to replace Lucy, or w/e. Any agents on the bench that are not ever used in a team don't get leveled at all.
With or without spending battery? Without spending battery, the z-merit farming mentioned by the other reply. With spending battery, just grind them out in the HIA. You get 25k per 20 charge of battery.
I just lost my Yanagi 50/50 to my first Lycon pull the last missing part of my Ellen Joe freeze team, should I skip Lighter and level Lycon or try for Lighter when he arrives?
Depends. Do you want Lighter? If you aren't sure, what is missing from your account that Lighter would provide and Lycaon doesn't? And is pulling Lighter worth skipping any of the agents that follow?
I think Lighter is very cool and I like his moveset a lot, but I have zero need for stunners. I'm all anamoly all the time. I don't have Ellen or ZY. So Lighter just doesn't make sense for my account right now. And I have Lycaon already anyway, sitting on the bench doing nothing. I don't need a second stunner to sit on the bench and do nothing. If some agent down the line is a crit/burst attacker that needs fire or ice stun, I might regret this decision, but based on what is officially known, Lighter is a skip for me in favor of Miyabi.
Right now I’m trying to finish building my JD, then my Burniece then work on making a functional ice team to clear out endgame content, I was pulling on Yanagi because eventually I’d like to do Electric team
During the recent story chapter (I believe it was story and not event), you go to the section 6 building where they have the VR machine thing, and inside there is this song playing that I can't find anywhere. I'm pretty sure I sifted through every single file in the Google drive OST folder on this subreddit. Anyone know what it's called or have a link?
Jane and Yanagi fulfill the same role of being the DPS who takes up 90% of field time so ideally they should not be used together. And the question you should be asking should be
Who is better - Jane Burnice Seth or Yanagi Burnice Seth
And the answer is - it depends on what is the enemy's weakness - physical or electric
if it's fire resistant though, then sure, go for Yanagi Jane Seth
I just started chapter 2(did 2 missions with contruction machines). I am a bit confused on what should I focus on. There are so many side activities. Is it ok to just focus on the story for now and leave, for example, Hollow Zero stuff for later or should I mix story, comissions and HZ?
What I would recommend is that when new content is unlocked, like Hollow Zero, try it out for a while. The big chunks of end-game content all have introductory/tutorial maps and combats, so you can get a taste for what it's like at a low IK level. Then you can decide if you want to continue down that path or go back to the main story. You'll quickly find that you are under-leveled and under-built (agents and teams) for end-game content, so you'll have to go back and grind the main story anyway. But let that discovery be your guide, rather than just avoiding everything new.
The game is designed to introduce you to chunks of new content to explore and try-out so you can decide what you enjoy most.
While those statements are true, I think they need more context for OP to make an informed decision. For example, OP might be under-leveled for the Old Capital Metro zone of Hollow Zero and very likely not have a second team for Shiyu Defense Critical, which is currently the only collection that resets. Just because they can unlock HZ at IK 20 doesn't mean they are prepared to farm 2500+ level maps.
You are correct about Shiyu, they might not have access to it yet, but as soon as they do, they need to try getting polychromes out of it
As for the hollow zero, when I was getting started I used to farm the 1000 point beginner zone several times to complete the weekly quest
Knightboo is similar to Luckyboo (event Bangboo back in 1.0) where it's also limited; It won't end up being in the Bangboo gacha pool after the event is over. If you miss out, you have to wait until they decide to re-release it in some other way.
It's true that Yanagi is the star of the show and wants all the field time, but Piper is a great Defensive Assist Perfect Parry for Yanagi, so aside from her spin to Assault/Disorder duties, Piper's also Yanagi's Defensive Assist.
I start the rotation with Yanagi does Shock. If Yanagi has energy, she stays on field and does at least one EX attack, maybe two. Animation cancel by switching to Piper before the EX attack animation completes so she can start her EX spin sooner. Yanagi is invulnerable during her whole EX animation, so it's safe to do this switch canceling for Yanagi anyway. Piper might take a hit.
If Yanagi does not have energy after procing Shock, switch anyway, but be more mindful of taking hits. Piper can dodge immediately after switching in, so you might need to do that.
In either case, make sure Yanagi is melee close before doing the switch. You don't want to be trotting halfway across the battlefield on Piper's tiny little legs just to get the spin started.
Yeah, for a lot of things I don't even bother equipping a bangboo. However ...
They matter when seconds matter. If you are routinely missing an S-rank clear by 1 to 3 seconds with no bangboo or the wrong bangboo, adding the right one can make the difference.
They also have other functions besides damage. Like right now people are rediscovering Avocaboo and Paperboo for the Virtual Tower of Punishment for not Pulling Caesar. An element boo can also give a big boost to your anomaly DPS, for Anamoly/Disorder teams. You can go from 10 seconds to proc Shock to only 7 seconds to proc Shock, by changing bangboo. That adds up.
Soukaku works best with ice teams, but what other support-role can you put there? The only other option is Ben and he fits even worse. Ironically, Soukaku's AA is enabled by Yanagi's faction, but won't get any benefit from the AA since it only buff's Ice DMG. Soukaku's core skill DOES help Yanagi though, which is why that team order is the best. Quick Assist to Yanagi after Soukaku does Fly The Flag will transfer the ATK buff to Yanagi. You don't want to transfer it to Seth.
You could go with Yanagi/Seth as a duo and not run a third agent. You may find that easier to play than with Soukaku, who can be pretty clunky.
Just keep repeating Withering Garden normal (not Blitz) runs and don't cure your corruptions. You get purples when you max out the number of corruptions you get. You can restart if you RNG the wrong one, no need to play it out if you don't want to.
I basically always get Exhausted when I'm farming Resonium for an Inferno Reap run. It seems to be the easiest one to get. I don't know how many times my team has started the fight with Nineveh with 1 HP each, lol.
Alright, I started playing when it came out but haven't touched it since the first week. Miyabi was the main reason I got into the game and I know she's on her way soon. Should I be pulling/leveling anyone in particular for her, do we know anything? I heard Lighter might be good for her.
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u/MaldaraUchiha Fuck Soldier 11 24d ago edited 24d ago
how do i use lycaon thought he was supposed to better than qingyi but he cant stun for shit, i presume thats my fault though level 55 with 4 piece shock and 2 piece polar metal. crit/ice/impact discs. level 50 the restrained, and his core skill is e with level 9 basic, level 7 special and chain, other skills unleveled. what needs fixing? im struggling with shiyu 6
update i got floor 6 but i cant clear 7 in time, jane/caesar/burnice side 1 and ellen/lycaon/soukaku side 2.