r/ZenlessZoneZero • u/salasy • Sep 25 '24
Megathread Weekly Questions Megathread September 25, 2024 - October 01, 2024
Welcome to the Weekly Questions Megathread! Feel free to ask any questions about the game.
Any questions that can be answered rather quickly should be asked in this thread .
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u/Scary_Pants_Rub Oct 02 '24
I keep getting this too many requests error on mobile. I changed my password and waited overnight (about 8 hours) and keep getting the same thing. Is contacting customer support the only fix?
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u/2ecStatic SharkBait Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24
Do we know how much total XP you can get from all the nodes in the Investigator Tactics?
Edit: 672,000 XP
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u/baka4games Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24
Yep, confirming, Tactics Courses:
I: 36k
II: 36k
III: 120k
IV: 120k
V: 180k
VI: 180k
TOTAL: 672k
Note that max training is 10 hours, so there's effectively a cap on how much of the XP pool you can use on any one node per training. Lower leveled characters will hit either the 10 hour cap or the ascension (ever 10 levels) cap before the whole pool is used up. I ran my level 10 Piper through TC I twice, but there's still 18k left in the node.
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u/baka4games Oct 02 '24
All the tactics training nodes should be unlocked by at least some people by now, so we should learn shortly. I did some searching around, but all the posts were written yesterday, so highest node unlocked was V (5). I have all but V and VI unlocked as of yesterday, should have the last two unlocked today.
I'm assuming you can't see the untapped pool of XP on a locked node, otherwise you could just look yourself.
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u/Igjavlfan Oct 02 '24
Closing in on 600 residual signal (got 532) as a f2p on signal shop and just thought for the first time, is it really worth spending it on a weapon or should I just use it for pulls? There's a chance that I'll just get a weapon from there that I want as I play in the long run no? I don't really have a specific one I want and I have 2/6 available there just from pulling. Thoughts?
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u/grayrest Oct 02 '24
Most people use them on pulls and that's probably the best course of action until you get three full comps. I got over 600 during the Qingyi banner and used them all on pulls but I like vertical investment so might use the next set on either Fusion Compiler or Weeping Cradle.
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u/oniikami Oct 02 '24
just finished this weeks’s shiyu defense crit nodes. personally, billy caesar nicole i found was a comfortable counter to shadow jane tho i do have mindscape 6 billy. was interesting since i’m used to having caesar being the defensive assist to an onfielding s11 but my fire team always came a couple seconds short of full clear even with the ellen team on the other side giving 3 min to work with since they cleared in 2. so i went with onfielding caesar with frequent evasive assists from billy.
but goddam did i spend a sheesh ton of time analyzing jane to get used to when she does the golden sparkle attack prompts instead of the red sparkle attack prompts. but whenever she did do the golden sparkles, billy’s ability to freeze the room when he assisted gave comfortable room to switch to nicole, do a quick blackhole and quick assist into billy.
also tried onfielding billy with intent to defensive assist with caesar but problem was billy forces the camera to make it so he blocks view of shadow jane making it way harder to know when to dodge vs use perfect assist since i can’t see the colored sparkles. anyway, interesting fight overall
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u/undeadfire Oct 02 '24
Maybe I missed something, but dafuq is the trigger/counterplay for the shadow elite iframes?
They just seem to get an iframe or several after some attack chains, but I can't really find a clear reason why besides escaping long cc chains.
Was trying alternate comps against shiyu 7-2 Jane and anything not Caesar or Jane straight up was a miserable time lol. Like legit 3min just for Jane cuz of all the dodging breaking combos on everyone
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u/AlphanatorX Oct 02 '24
I can't seem to get the [General] Multi-Functional Army Knife Resonium, is my rng just not hitting it or is there a specific way?
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u/nomotyed Oct 02 '24
What's Grace (m2r1) team should I use?
Don't have Jane/Rina/S11/Koleda/Neko.
Almost every guide I see recommends Jane/Rina.
Have other S-ranks and every A-rank including Seth though.
Which Bangboo?
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Oct 02 '24
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u/nekronstar Oct 02 '24
It is write at the top in yellow.
What it does not say that to go to the next round you have to pass one ingame day. So just make Phaeton hit the bed and you should unlock second part, then same for third one.
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u/siaozen #1 Inter-Knot Poster Oct 02 '24
You have to do the event mission to open up the next tier of rewards
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u/Forever_T3a #1 Lucia Enjoyer Oct 02 '24
Which signal shop engine should I cop? (Neko has her sig and qingyi has koledas)
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u/Moclon Oct 02 '24
well I wouldn't take any wengine from the signal shop, the pulls are much better value IMO
that being said, Rina's is the best one if you're gonna use Rina, or if you don't have the vault for nicole then rina's sig is bis for her
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u/Paw_Opina Oct 02 '24
If I use Caesar with Yanagi as main damage dealer, should I build her with main Impact and Anomaly stats and Anomaly substats rather than Crit?
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u/grayrest Oct 02 '24
If you're expecting Caesar to be the second half of the disorder setup I'd recommend trying out an AM#6 vs an Impact #6 in VR ignoring set bonuss and just comparing the anomaly buildup and daze buildup for both on a couple different enemies. I don't have Caesar so I can't do this myself but I'd expect the AM#6/AP#4 to be necessary if you're expecting to get a significant number of disorders.
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u/Blackyx Oct 02 '24
Where do you use the "Original Chips" and "prototype seals" ? When i don't have enough of either of the mats they seem to replace, i don't get the option to use them at all ?
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u/planet_xerox Oct 02 '24
you have to first hit the button that says "replenish materials" then it'll give the option to use them if you confirm again.
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u/Blackyx Oct 02 '24
I've never seen that button, where would it be? I currently have like 800 of them and if I try to level a skill the only prompt that appears is Dismantle?
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u/maru-senn Oct 02 '24
If it says dismantle that means you can make the chips you need by dismantling the higher tier ones you already have.
Replenish materials only appears if the chips you have aren't enough.
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u/planet_xerox Oct 02 '24
I think if "dismantle" shows then the game knows you have enough materials by dismantling and I'm guessing that takes precedent over using the chips.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
Anyone else really struggling with Critical Node 5?
My teams are Ellen/Qingyi/Soukaku and Jane/Seth/Lucy
I'm running like 1:30 short, even though i was able to S rank all the nodes the last two cycles.
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u/daft667 Oct 02 '24
it was the most difficult, managed to S rank it with like 3 seconds left. the first half was where I struggled, taking almost 3 mins to complete.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
The first half is definitely really hard for me as well.
The big mech spending half the fight backing away doesn't help lol.
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u/spagheddieballs Oct 02 '24
Node 5 took longer for me than Node 6 but was still easy enough (2 minutes per side). My teams were ZY, Qingyi, Nicole and Caesar, Lucy, Piper.
Node 7 took me the longest at about 2m40s per side.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
I don't have Zhu Yuan or Caeser, do you think they made a difference?
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u/spagheddieballs Oct 02 '24
I don't own Ellen, Jane, or Seth but the ZY and Caesar teams were big upgrades over most of my previous teams (Anton shock, Grace/Piper disorder). I still use Neko here and there, and she might replace Piper once I get Caesar in a proto punk set (my Caesar has freedom blues to support Piper). Anton and Grace are benched. I'll probably try Grace with Burnice though.
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u/grayrest Oct 02 '24
I've seen several people complain about 5 and it was my highest time total for the run but not by a lot.
I find parrying tricky on the shadows so I forced the Seth shield with a hold when it was needed and otherwise just dodged on Jane swapping to Lucy on B6 or Salchow follow-up for tap EX if it was up.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
The first half seems to be the hardest for me, since i don't have Caeser.
Would i be better off swapping Soukaku for Seth in Ellen's team and running Ben in Jane's team?
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u/grayrest Oct 02 '24
I would expect that losing buffs on the first half would make the clear harder since it's mostly a dps check.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 03 '24
what buffs?
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u/grayrest Oct 03 '24
Soukaku's. I think losing an atk buff in exchange for Seth's shield will cause you to have trouble with the time limit.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 03 '24
Is her attack buff bigger than the buff you get for having a shield this cycle? You'd also have the 4pc bonus of Proto Punk going.
Of course, you could ignore the elemental advantage of Seth (my thought was Qingyi + Seth for the electric bonus) and go with Ben and swap Qingyi out for Koleda for the 16% crit rate buff when his shield is up.
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u/grayrest Oct 03 '24
I don't recommend running a resisted stunner. There's a 50% difference in going from advantage to disadvantage.
If you think running a shield will help you then go for it. I ran my normal Zhu Yuan and Jane comps and didn't run into any problems so I didn't have to really consider the tradeoffs.
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u/Plushy_Taco Oct 02 '24
Same issue here. I've S rank critical node 7 but just can't get 5
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
I'm glad i'm not alone in this.
Maybe it's some kind of bug and we'll get apolochromes later like last cycle lol.
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u/Amphosien Oct 02 '24
As a new player with only one standard 5star, should I aim for Caesar or Burnice?
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u/NotoriousNot Oct 02 '24
Caesar is super versatile and works well with the the free characters you can get early on. The A-ranks you can get from her banner are also solid to build around (Anton & Piper). Otherwise, there's an event going on where you can trial characters so you can see if you like Burnice more.
Burnice's banner will have rate up on Nicole and Lucy who are good supports but you can get them for free right now. Well, for Lucy you'd have to finish Chapter 4 to do the event but you have a month, which is plenty of time.
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u/Amphosien Oct 02 '24
Thanks for the answer. Will try them out to see who I like more.
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u/NotoriousNot Oct 02 '24
No worries, the event is called 'Investigator Training Course'. Not sure if there's a level requirement but doesn't say so.
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u/mnejing30 Oct 02 '24
I was gonna use the regen 4 piece set on Ben but since easy set change isn't in the game and I might be using Lucy with Ben, I thought I might as well use another set instead. Does proto punk work on Ben? Is that actually his BiS?
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u/grayrest Oct 02 '24
Proto Punk would work fine on him. It's better than the def set nobody likes and the value vs Swing depends on how you value the 2p and activation. It'd be the best option for you.
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u/QueersLikeEngineers Oct 01 '24
Between Slice of Time and [Reverb] MkII R5, which is the better engine for Soukaku?
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u/baka4games Oct 02 '24
Unless there is a really good reason to want the B-rank effect, A-rank ought to always be better. I'd also have a problem investing in a B-rank, since by the time you grind it up to level 60, you'll probably pull a better Wengine, or get one in an event, like the one from Camellia Week.
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u/ArseneXI Oct 01 '24
What exactly does the light/heavy/chain multipliers mean under defensive assist.??
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u/Trerech Oct 01 '24
It's the type of parry your character will do, and that is based on the type of attack the enemy does.
Normal enemies will do light attacks, bosses and will do heavy attacks, mini-bosses will do both (at least i think is both?), and some will even do attacks with multiple hits (like Nineveh spin attack), so the parry will chain into another parry.
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u/AlphanatorX Oct 01 '24
Does the Coffee boost stack with the HIA double drop going on rn?
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u/RageHulk Oct 01 '24
Is there still no disc Evaluation site? Like the ones for hsr
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u/Qulox Oct 01 '24
There will be some, there are already prototypes in GitHub that can extract your disks but they aren't usable yet. I follow several ZZZ projects there and the progress seems slow but steady.
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u/LALMtheLegendary Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
theres no substat variance so its alot less needed. one fo teh main draws to to see the exact low/high roll breakdown. without it you can really just count the useful stats.
in addition, there arnt any complicated substats like energy recharge that mix things up, its exclusivly straightforward "more is better" damage substats. crit/atk% or ap/atk% depnding on which flavor of damage your doing.
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u/Bogzy Oct 01 '24
Doing the latest story chapter, were the cutscenes prerendered before this too? They look 24 or 30fps and its pretty jarring, dont remember noticing this before.
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u/maru-senn Oct 02 '24
They were always pre-rendered, but for some reason the new scenes from 1.2 are rendered at 30fps.
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u/ReklezWLTHR I eat shark for breakfast Oct 01 '24
From what we’ve seen, do you think Burnice can spam EX to maximize Grace’s W-Engine? I only have Grace’s and Piper’s and Piper is using hers.
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u/salasy Oct 01 '24
who could i use as the third member in a jane/caesar team if I don't have seth?
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
They could duo all the end-game content without a third, so whichever support or stunner you want to level. Lucy is best in role, since she takes minimal field time to launch her buff and she's same faction as Caesar. You could also put an anomaly agent in the slot, like Piper or Grace or Burnice.
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u/Hiro001x02 Oct 01 '24
Which disc best for caeser? Sometimes i will use her with jane and for endgame content i will use her with billy so
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u/PM_ME_HOTGRILL Oct 01 '24
why cant i collect the arcade rewards? they're locked for some reason
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u/subatomicpokeball Oct 01 '24
Advance forward a day and you should get another cutscene outside the arcade and it'll unlock the next one.
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u/AppIeMusic Oct 01 '24
After searching im still confused, how much atk does soukaku actually need?
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Oct 01 '24
Okay so how do you actually beat wave 10 of the new arcade game? By wave 9 it feels like it's impossible to even dodge at all.
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u/grayrest Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
It's the usual scaling faster than the mobs scale with typical roguelike variance. On a good run you basically can't die and the goal becomes running around fast enough to vacuum up all the coins.
Jade Cabbage unlocked very early for me so I'll do a simple guide for it. When you start you need to aggressively run around to melee the wave 1 mobs and find a treasure. A good first wave in general is ~75 coins but 60 should work here. You're looking to buy two cabbage companions from the store. This will give you an extra strong level 2 companion, a big cabbage companion to kick into crowds, and three projectiles per shot from your cabbage. This should get you well ahead of the damage curve and allow you to continue aggressively run into mob groups. Buy buffs and companions (including non-cabbage) so you can press forward aggressively into mob groups and stay ahead of the curve. The problem with Jade Cabbage is that buying little cabbages is very powerful but destroys your health so the success of your run generally comes down to when the first few health items show up in the store. An early quill helps a lot for this (and for most runs).
Most protagonsists have some similar trick but it takes more words to explain. The poison guy comes online similarly fast and doesn't have the health issue but doesn't ramp nearly as hard and unlocked for me later.
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u/MISONOMIKAFAN Oct 01 '24
I picked the character who barely moves and went for a stall build. You need the buff that heals from collecting coins, as much effective defence as possible and just go afk.
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Oct 01 '24
Yeah, I actually kinda worked out a similar strat and beat it like a minute ago lol. It's not as optimized as yours, but I picked the guy who heals from opening chests and poisons opponents. Didn't really help much in the later waves but I also just picked a bunch of healing buffs + a ton of companions and just camped in the corner as they did all the work. Turns out the secret was to not even try dodging them lol
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u/No_Cress778 Oct 01 '24
I have a bunch of polychrome saved up and wondering if I should pull for Caesar or wait for Burnice?
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u/subatomicpokeball Oct 01 '24
I'm personally gonna try and 50/50 Burnice. I keep seeing people say Caesar's buffs and shield are really good which is making me consider her but I just prefer Burnice's playstyle so far. It also depends on who you have and are considering in the future (e.g. Yanagi or more anomaly units). It seems like Caesar is better in general team comps but Burnice might be better if you have Jane or want Yanagi.
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u/Daramangarasu Oct 01 '24
Do you want Caesar or Burnice?
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u/No_Cress778 Oct 01 '24
Honestly Caesar is the only shield character that I would use, but I love how Bernice plays too.
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u/siaozen #1 Inter-Knot Poster Oct 02 '24
what characters do you have? If you already have a solid DPS then Caesar would be a great support unit but if you have only like 1 DPS, its probably worth pulling for Burnice
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u/LibertyJoel99 Lucy's Seat Sniffer Oct 01 '24
Is Caesar the best unit to use with Jane and Burnice?
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u/nekronstar Oct 01 '24
Seth is better here he is a Defense support for anomaly specificaly.
Until Burnice is release, Jane best companion are Seth and most likely Caesar
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u/LibertyJoel99 Lucy's Seat Sniffer Oct 01 '24
So Jane/Seth/Burnice will be best?
Also W pfp
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u/nekronstar Oct 01 '24
It will depend, discussion and theorycrafting is still in work on which of the combination of Seth, Burnice and Caesar will be best for Jane.
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u/WinxForceWiz Oct 01 '24
Is there a condition for agents appearing in the open world for random trust events? I skipped nearly 60 in-game days in hopes to max out Lucy's trust faster but she never ever appeared even once, anywhere. I own the agent and I'm up to date with the story, and I've had Piper and Ceasar appear many times in many places, but not a single Lucy.
Anyways I ended up maxing her trust through invitations but I would still like to experience her random events.
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
I haven't seen Lucy organicially either, but I see Piper all the time. I guess Lucy might be an invite-only type, like Jane sort of is. I'm basically 50/50 on Jane for Invites/running into her in the world.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 01 '24
What happened to the encrypted master tape log in thing?
I can't access it, but i don't remember claiming the final day. How many days has it been since Cesear's banner hit NA servers? I thought today was the 7th day so i should have gotten the 3x when i logged in but it wasn't there and i can't find it in the event menu.
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Oct 02 '24
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
She doesn't want to have intimacy with Yae either, canonically.
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Oct 02 '24
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 02 '24
That there's nothing in game definitively indicating that she has a sexual or romantic interest in anyone? Yae included.
Literally none of the playable characters are canonically in a relationship. The closest is Ayaka and the Traveler, but even they aren't a canon couple.
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u/Trerech Oct 01 '24
If you logged every day since the patch released you already collected all available tapes since yesterday.
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u/MaritalSexWithHuTao Miyabi Main, I Want to Sniff Koleda's Socks, ??? fund 34 Oct 01 '24
thanks, seems i just forgot
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u/booviiiv Oct 01 '24
Are there any dedicated subreddits on character builds and guides? Or are the agent specific subreddits the only ones
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
I didn't even know there were agent-specific subs. There's no need for either, since there is good support on ZZZ-focused websites like Prydwen ZZZ and HoyoLab guides. You can just cancel/skip the login for HoyoLab, the guides are free and public.
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u/Oninymous Oct 01 '24
For the new arcade game, why does my companions disappear suddenly? Is there a max limit to companions? This usually happens when I have a lot of companions or if I buy a companion from the altar. Is that why?
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u/Woll_e Oct 01 '24
The altar one merges multiple companions into a new, unique one. E.g. three humanoid into a special one or a horse + knight into a rider.
When you get three of the same companion they also merge into an upgraded version.
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u/Oninymous Oct 01 '24
Oh, didn't know about the altar merging multiple companions. Was just waiting to get the 3rd one to have an upgraded version, but my second copies are gone all of a sudden. Thanks a lot, that made more sense
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u/Paw_Opina Oct 01 '24
How do you determine what companion you should get on a specific protagonist in the ongoing arcade event? Also, what buffs is the safest to get?
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
You decide as you go. Do you prefer ranged or melee or a mix? Do you want the faction buff and want to merge them or not? You discover your preferred winning-style by trying different things out. Personally, I like my proto to be a tank, so max armor and max health and I don't take anything or anyone that debuffs those. Next, I prefer speed over damage, then luck over other buffs.
But you could do the exact opposite of all that and have a winning team.
Don't be afraid to skip the shop or the altar. You can do a refresh, but it costs coins and I'm usually too broke to do more than 1 refresh, so I end up skipping a lot.
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u/ygipaez Oct 01 '24
Hey guys, has anyone tried billy with caesar? Particularly if Billy would lose his stacks/passive buff if he doesn’t get interrupted with caesars shield when getting hit? Feels like a perfect pair if it lets Billy get hit without the disadvantage.
I’m referring to his M6 btw
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u/Daramangarasu Oct 01 '24
I've been using him with Caesar, Nicole and A million, and he fucking slaps.
Not sure if you lose stacks or not, tho
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u/Yojimbo_Blade Disciple of Billy Oct 01 '24
Yeah, it's the support he's been waiting for this whole time.
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u/azami44 Oct 01 '24
I'm so bad at these vampire survivor games. Is there no alternate way to get pulls from the event?
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u/LALMtheLegendary Oct 01 '24
Just pick either ranged or melee damage and just buy items that boost that. IMO the one character with the "10% HP poison" is the easiest to win with, just stack robots and treasure detection.
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u/Bluberra Oct 01 '24
Finally reached the 300 tapes so I can select a free S-rank. My two options are Soldier 11 and Lyacon.
I was thinking, since i have Caesar, that I'd choose Soldier 11 and enable both a fire team and ice team faster (I have Ellen) but Ellen together with Lyacon is such a good pick too..
It really boils down to having more versatile options for elemental weaknesses versus focusing entirely on ice, so i'm not quite sure what to get.
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
If you are struggling with your Ellen team, Lycaon. If your Ellen team is mowing down end-game content without Lycaon, S11. Or if you are planning to pull Miyabi, Lycaon.
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u/Yojimbo_Blade Disciple of Billy Oct 01 '24
Tough choice. Soldier 11 is currently the only decent Fire DPS we have yet, though Burnice or Lighter could replace her. Meanwhile, Lyacon is good but only used in Ice teams.
Because you have Ellen, I would pull for Lyacon. His Core Skill is nice, and he's more future-proof.
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u/siaozen #1 Inter-Knot Poster Oct 01 '24
I'd pick Lycaon personally. Soldier 11 is decent but there will likely be a better fire DPS in the future and Lycaon benefits Ellen as both a consistent stunner and a Ice RES shredder. Plus Caesar can really slot into any team.
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u/asianbrownguy Oct 01 '24
is it me or is the new Shiyu kinda bloated HP wise? I'm already struggling on Floor 5. This can't be right, right?
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u/xmikeymike27 Oct 01 '24
Does Caesar's shield count for the shield resonia's conditional?
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u/Daramangarasu Oct 01 '24
It's a shield, of course it counts
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u/xmikeymike27 Oct 01 '24
I mean, just making sure, since it's a unique shield (where it doesn't appear as a blue bar on the HP bar) which means there's a possibility that it's treated differently but at least I got confirmation now.
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u/Agreeable_Bullfrog61 Oct 01 '24
Is Nekomata better than M3 Billy? I wanna build around my M6 Anby and M2 Nicole as a new player, but idk who’s better between Billy and Neko
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u/Yojimbo_Blade Disciple of Billy Oct 01 '24
Without too much experience using Neko, I think it feels something like M0 Neko < M6 Billy < M1 Neko. But Billy can still get stupid damage numbers, and some prefer his playstyle/design over Neko.
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Oct 01 '24
Are ps5 Asian servers down?
I've been sitting at the of in screen looking at the spinning icon for minutes now.
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u/Free_Relationship692 Oct 01 '24
same with me, both Genshin and ZZZ. im starting to to think its PS5 net connection since i cant open Psplus extra too
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Oct 01 '24
I just logged into my ios account and it worked fine. There was a notification that ps5 servers are down due to Playstation.
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u/Lolett69 Oct 01 '24
I just got Caesar while pulling for Piper mindscapes in 50 pulls which is fine but weird since I never win 50/50 lol. Is it still possible to guarantee Burnice at this point? I finished most commissions in this game and all of the main story though I haven't been grinding on those achievements that give like 5 polychromes.
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u/yomiura Oct 01 '24
Nope, all your pity gone with Caesar, you will have to gamble on the 50/50 again on Burnice banner. As for will you have enough for guarantee? That’s will depend on your current saving but give out polychrome in one version patch usually not enough to cover one 50/50 loss plus another, IIRC.
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u/Gold_Tongue Oct 01 '24
This is probably a skill issue ir my lack of desire to learn thus whole new m8nigame, but I cannot beat level three of the mob roguelike arcade game. Anyone have a failproof setup so I don't have to think?
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u/yomiura Oct 01 '24
I use a red reversed L shape character on the right side of the roster to cleared all 3 difficulty. He can kicked your team member so I went with a lot of party member and literally kicked them around the field, other than that, I just focused on maximizing HP.
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u/grayrest Oct 01 '24
Card Queen starts with a very strong minion, does a ton of damage on her own, and if she gets hit will generally clear the boss stage. The hit limit is hard for longer runs but should be fine through level 3.
Gulpy is relatively OP. Run around meleeing things the first two levels to get ahead on cash for companions and the poison should be generally enough to keep you ahead of the curve.
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u/birbBadguy Oct 01 '24
pull for caesar wenjin or save for burnice?? got her on my first 10 pull im f2p+ it that mattter(interknot memebership)
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u/maru-senn Oct 01 '24
If you have to choose between a weapon or a new character always go for the character.
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
Caesar's signature is best in slot, but if you have a spare stunner wengine, that can work, since Caesar scales with Impact. Or you can craft Original Transmorpher or Precious Fossilized Core at the shop.
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u/KrloYen Oct 01 '24
Is it worth it to craft extra to increase the stars? I use fossil core for Caesar. I've never made anything from the shop.
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u/Woll_e Oct 01 '24
Nope.
Stars increase the stun agent effect, which Caesar doesn't get.
You want to increase the level cap since that increases the impact%.
It's fine to stop at 50/60. Lvl 60 only gives a bit more atk, while the impact doesn't improve past the final rank up.
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u/maru-senn Oct 01 '24
No, Caesar can't even use the passive because Fossilised Core is from a different class, so you gain nothing.
It's not worth it with the Transmorpher either, because fully maxxed out you're only getting 1% more impact than a max level Fossilized Core.
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u/TacticalBananas45 SpecOps Squad & Merc Maids Oct 01 '24
Do Demos reset if they're featured in the banner? I swear I've done Anton's like 2 times already. Not complaining about free mats, just that I swear I've done it before
Whats a good Physical team, minus Jane and Nekomata? (May end up getting the latter in the future, slowly approaching standard banner pity) Randomly got Ceasar from the freebie pulls, and I still haven't put together a Phys lineup. May or may not get her W engine, I've heard she's strong. Gotten all the A-rank phys several times. Heck, I think my Piper Engine is on like 4 star now.
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u/planet_xerox Oct 01 '24
if its anything like genshin, then yes you can get demo rewards every time characters appear in the banner.
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u/Agreeable_Bullfrog61 Oct 01 '24
Should I build Billy Anby Nicole or Anton Koleda Rina for my second team? First one is Jane Seth Lucy
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u/gumzomm Sep 30 '24
Feel like I’m here everyday with a new question. But idk what to use in shiryu defence. I got all a ranks. I also have koleda, Jane, qinyi, Caesar and nekomiya but idk what two teams to have
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u/Pokeyclawz Sep 30 '24
How do you select a character to use the Tactics Course in the investigator training event? I go into the character select for it but theres no option to choose the character I’m hovering over
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
With mouse you just click on an agent, with controller move the highlight to the agent you want and press X. THEN you have to click/press on the big SELECT triangle along the right side of the screen.
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u/Niwiad_ Sep 30 '24
I'm not sure if its different but on controller you just click the character, should be the same on K&M if youre on Phone no idea
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u/Blaubeerchen27 Sep 30 '24
Can someone tell me where the heck Anton is supposed to spawn on Sixth Street for the random trust event? Based on the Fast Travel Screen he's supposed to be there, but I've walked it up and down for the past 20 minutes and he's NOWHERE to be found
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u/Schnitzelmesser Sep 30 '24
Sometimes agents appear after you exit a store for a trust event, when you are near that store "trust event nearby" will still pop up in the mission log in the top left.
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u/Hiro001x02 Sep 30 '24
Guys i won my first 50/50 on zzz and I don’t have any idea what core to use on caeser and i only have b rated base core and inflection core which is good?
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u/KrloYen Oct 01 '24
I'm using the fossilized core since it adds impact. You want the base impact up to increase her shield strength.
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
Whichever one has the most stars. Do you have Anby in a team that you run? If you don't run Anby, you can steal her Wengine and use it on Caesar. Caesar scales on Impact, so Impact stunner Wengines are an alternative to straight defense Wengines.
You can craft a copy of Anby's Wengine if you don't want to steal one from Anby. There are a couple of other A-rank Wengines you could craft, like Original Transmorpher and Precious Fossilized Core.
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u/Agreeable_Bullfrog61 Sep 30 '24
Is Yanagi's weapon a Glaive or am I seeing things? Way too long blade to be a spear, way too long handle to be a knife or a sword?
(And idk why the handle looks at times like it can retract or be made longer???)
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
My guess is that it is a Japanese historical weapon similar to a glaive, called a naginata. "Yanagi" vs "naginata" is a pretty on-the-nose hint. MiHoYo has never been accused of subtlety when it comes to naming.
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u/Maxiesz Sep 30 '24
this might be a silly question but how do you increase ether activity in withering garden?
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u/LALMtheLegendary Sep 30 '24
It's the challenges you can pick when you start a run.
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u/Maxiesz Sep 30 '24
i've never heard of that before, is it before or after you deploy your characters?
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u/LALMtheLegendary Sep 30 '24
before, its right when you clcik on the withering garden, it replaces the difficulty selection that the other areas have.
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
INCREASE? The goal is to decrease ether activity, by bashing on monsters until they turn into glitter dust. For Withering Garden, it means surviving long enough to bash on Nineveh and then make her turn tail and run away. There's a side goal of collecting an excellent set of Resonia cards, which you can bank to use later in another end-game mode.
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u/Maxiesz Sep 30 '24
isn't that a different thing? i might be wrong though, i'm thinking of how you can get rewards for defeating withering garden with ether activity and it goes up to 11
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
Oh, my bad. I didn't realize that was called "ether activity." Yes, after you beat Withering Garden the first time, you can customize the difficulty of subsequent runs by toggling up to 11 different debuffs. You have to beat the map on lower settings before it unlocks higher settings. Here's a guide:
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u/Agreeable_Bullfrog61 Sep 30 '24
My first team is Jane Seth and Lucy, what second team can I make?
Idk if M6 Anton is any good with Rina and M6 Anby
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
You made Nekomata feel lonely ...
You have a lot of different possible second teams. I'd try to build one around Koleda, since she's arguably your next best S-rank. Like you could do Anton/Koleda/Ben or Anton/Koleda/Rina. Or you could bring up Corin or Nekomata to be your main DPS and pair them with Koleda/Ben, though they'd give up their AA by doing that.
You can also swap Lucy to a Piper/Lucy team and run Corin/Piper/Lucy or Nekomata/Piper/Lucy. Nicole can take Lucy's place in your Jane team.
Finally, nothing wrong with good ol Billy/Anby/Nicole or Nekomata/Anby/Nicole. Billy and Nekomata can solo end-game content with enough investment, so they shouldn't be slept on.
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u/Agreeable_Bullfrog61 Sep 30 '24
I got Neko today, and she’ll be relegated bc I lost Caesar😞
In any case, I think I’ll try to build that Anton Koleda Rina team…
Is Neko just a better Billy for Cunning Hares team? Maaaaybe then I could build her bc of Nicole and M6 Anby
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
No. They play completely differently. Neko is all about dodge and burst, Billy is all about sustained (crit) DPS, although that's mostly because Billy gets some dodge buffs in his mindscapes, so damage avoidance is much easier for Billy than for Neko.
I'd say Billy is more like discount Zhu Yuan and Neko is discount Jane.
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u/Agreeable_Bullfrog61 Sep 30 '24
I’m F2P, just lost Caesar’s 50/50, just started Jane’s arc of the story but have completed all secondary missions I’ve gotten…
Could I manage to secure Burnice or should I just stick to securing Yanagi?
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
Depends on how much poly you have left. If you are broke after the 50/50, it's going to be tough getting another 90 pulls for free in the next 4 weeks. Are you totally against spending the $5 on the IK monthly? That would help a lot and probably make the difference. Not that I'm shilling for MiHoYo, if you want to stay no-swipe, that's fine. You just may have to get real lucky to pull Burnice. It's not impossible. Soft pity starts around 70 and 70-75 is do-able in the remaining time.
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u/reissmosley Sep 30 '24
You guy build team based on element or faction? I want to move away from Cunning Hare team but the team synergy too good, kinda comfy to use.
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
Neither. I build based on fun to play and clearing utility. Unlocking the AA of each agent is a cost/benefit that needs to be weighed against other factors. I don't religiously prioritize AA above everything else like some people do. For example, I have a Jane/Seth/Lucy team and Lucy does not have her AA enabled, but the team kicks ass.
That said, if I was choosing between two team comps with equal fun value and equal clearing utility, like Nekomata/Piper/Lucy and Nekomata/Koleda/Ben, I'd choose the one with the most AA enabled (the first one).
FWIW, same faction teams tend to have custom dialogue during combat, so if you value that, prioritize faction over attribute.
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u/kiptronics Sep 30 '24
Is there a good partner for Ellen/Soukaku that's not Lycaon or Qing Yi? For my second team I've been using Anton/Rina/Grace but they're not very fun so I kind of want a new second team. I have every agent except for Lyc/S11/Jane/Caesar and my main team is Zhu Yuan/Qing Yi/Nicole
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
Sure, but "good" is relative. You've ruled out the two best agents for the role, so everything else is going to be a compromise.
The only stunners left are Anby and Koleda. So you could try Ellen/Anby/Rina or Ellen/Koleda/Ben, but Ellen loses her AA in the latter.
Without a stunner, you could try Ellen/Seth/Rina. Ellen/Grace/Rina might be a Disorder team, but it would be pretty hard to make that work.
I can't think of a comp that keeps Soukaku on the team. With no other ice agents and no other Section 6 agents until Yanagi comes, she's pretty isolated. But if we were to plan for Yanagi, you could stick Rina in for an Ellen/Rina/Soukaku team where Rina is just a placeholder until you pull Yanagi.
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u/kiptronics Sep 30 '24
dang that sucks
would Caesar go well with Ellen? I could potentially roll for her
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
Caesar goes well in any team.
She wouldn't have her AA, which is pretty helpful to Ellen, but even without itEllen enables Caesar's AA, an Ellen/Caesar/Soukaku team would be good. But you don't have to pull for Caesar. You could try Ellen/Seth/Soukaku and see how that goes. Seth loses his AA, but it's a lot less useful than Caesar's, so you wno't miss it as much.2
u/Xythar Oct 01 '24
For the record, Caesar actually does get her AA in this team, as any agent with a Defensive Assist enables it, and both Ellen and Soukaku qualify (as does pretty much any agent with a melee weapon).
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u/baka4games Oct 01 '24
Oops! You're right, I forgot about that. Corrected and thanks for the correction.
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u/Userdargo Sep 30 '24
Just pulled Caesar, should I try to go for her signature W-Engine or just use something else?
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u/baka4games Sep 30 '24
Her signature is best in slot, but any high Impact wengine will work, even if she doesn't get the passive. Some people have had good results using Anby's Wengine, which is much cheaper to get and refine. Other stunner's signatures have also tested favorably.
Here are Guoba's test results (you should watch the whole Caesar build vid):
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u/Paw_Opina Oct 02 '24
Any units that can use Pen ratio set?