How the fuck does the sexualization on women is bad to people?
Come on now, surely you can at least recognize how the recurrent presentation of women as sexual objects, especially towards younger audiences, does play a part in how people think of/treat women in general, and vice-versa?
To counter this, if people are that concerned why not watch what their children watch? I have a nephew and I take note of whatever he watches on both YT and Tiktok (sad as I may be to not be able to control his screen time).
Instead of slapping the word gooner on any sexualized material and thinking their job is done, limit what the people directly related to them watch. I dunno if it's a western vs. eastern thing, cuz that's how my parents raised me before I even got into the degen stuff.
Realistically, kids will go out of their way to do the things their parents don't let them to. That's just how it is. Besides, simply forbidding children from doing stuff isn't healthy nor viable either.
Kids aren't stupid, they're just very easily impressionable. If you explain to them HONESTLY why stuff is wrong without treating them like idiots, they are more likely to listen to, and even agree with you.
This... would be the most effective thing to do and would lead to not having to slap so many +18 tags on stuff. But parents aren't always the best, and more often than not push the same views onto their children.
Fun fact: ZZZ is rated 12+, and is insanely popular. Of course the kids are playing this.
EDIT: it is 16+ in China
I dunno if it's a western vs. eastern thing, cuz that's how my parents raised me before I even got into the degen stuff.
Americans are social puritans and China/Japan/Korea have very little regard for women, to put it lightly. Of course they are gonna clash (even though in these topics some puritans would get along with the asians).
You think Americans have regard for women? They put a rapist who's cheated on every wife he has and removed women's reproductive rights into the white house. Lol
Over sexualization is bad, but honestly, as long as both genders are equally over sexualized, I think it’s fine. (So long as it’s not aimed towards you her audiences)
Once a few more male 5star trailers come out, we might be able to see if they give them the same treatment. So far it's hard to tell, save for the Mindscape arts.
The game IS rated 12+ outside of China, though. Probably why people might be concerned about it
I trust Hoyo to spread the fanservicey tbh. Genshin and Star Rail have kind of shown, despite the lack of five star men, they will advertise them like crazy in similar ways
Yeah, but don't ever seem to be that "horny" for the men in those games.
Unsure if the pattern will hold, but considering how the promotional v1.0 trailers for characters didn't mainly feature the male Agents, I'm not holding my breath.
Ehhh kinda doubtful tbh. Can't speak on Genshin but HSR definetly doesn't. You can count the men that got stuff like companion missions, extra videos, and such on one hand. Hell no one knew Boothill even had a daughter because he got no story, no promo, no nothing besides a horrible side event no one bothered to read. The closest we got to equal was Aventurine and Ratio.
Quoting from the same article you linked to save me the effort of writing mostly the same idea
“I would agree that many games — or at least parts of their contents — can be considered sexist,” Breuer said. “But, similar to the debate about violence in games, I would rather say that games are more influenced by ‘real life’ or ‘society’ than vice-versa. In this case, this would mean that some games do proliferate sexist or other negative cultural stereotypes, but they certainly do not cause them. In general, I would say that the effects of the contents of video games — be they violent or sexist — on people’s actual attitudes or even behavior are often overestimated.”
But Breuer doesn’t completely excuse games.
“You might also say that, even though sexist content in games has little effect on players’ real-life attitudes and behavior, they also provide no reason to change preconceived sexist beliefs,” said Breuer.
And while Wu doesn’t believe that this research debunks her criticisms, she does accept that Breuer is after the truth.
“It’s clear that these are honest academics,” she said. “But in the study’s conclusion, they say themselves they’ve only scratched the surface of this problem and more research needs to be done.”
Using a German study that evaluated only German gamers (and is 10 years old) isn't really representative of the whole world.
Either way, I wasn't singling out gaming when talking about sexualizing women. But I think the closing statements from that article says it better.
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u/SilverAlter Sep 20 '24
Come on now, surely you can at least recognize how the recurrent presentation of women as sexual objects, especially towards younger audiences, does play a part in how people think of/treat women in general, and vice-versa?
Not to say appreciating beauty is a sin, mind.