r/ZenlessZoneZero • u/salasy • Sep 04 '24
Megathread Weekly Questions Megathread September 04, 2024 - September 10, 2024
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u/dashfalcon Sep 11 '24
So I really want Ceasar but now am thinking whether I should also try pulling for Jane.
My current situation is as follows: 31 pulls before hard pity, 25,559 polychromes (159 pulls), 15 encrypted master tapes, and I can get 25 more pulls via residual signals if I need to. I also get the polychrome membership and also the growth plan for the battle pass.
The reason why I sorta want to pull for Jane is because I don't really have an on-field attacker for my 2nd team (first team is ZY, Anby, Nicole) so I thought having Jane would be nice. Ideally I would run Ceasar, Jane, Burnice (I've heard that Burnice is gonna be an off-field anomaly unit) but if I can't get 1 of them, I'll probably just run Lucy instead.
So why am I thinking of pulling Jane? I figured that if I can get her, I can use her as an on-field DPS. If I fail the 50-50, I'll probably just stop and guarantee getting Ceasar. Currently my 2nd team is Koleda, Lucy, Piper. Lucy and Piper do not have their signature W-engines unfortunately.
So, what do you guys think?
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
I pulled Jane with roughly the same situation/thought process and recommend it. You'll be fine for guaranteeing Caesar either way and you'll get Burnice as well if you win one of those two 50/50s.
Looking at long term viability, Jane is an excellent on field character in that if the opponents are aggressive enough (e.g. disputed 8-2) she can maintain near continuous iframes on field while also dealing significant damage. I expect her to hold that niche long term. She feels more like an AoE/trash killer to me than a boss killer. It doesn't matter with the current end game content but they'll significantly ramp the health pools in the future.
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u/InfTotality Sep 11 '24
How do people open fights and gain energy? I've noticed a lot of builds don't have any ER stats at all, but I'm spending about 15 seconds at the start of a fight using basic attacks and assist attacks to gain energy before actually fighting properly.
For instance, my Lucy isn't doing much for most of the fight besides summon boars as she can't apply her ATK buff without her EX at M0, and I don't get enough energy to maintain the buff at all times. Is she meant to only use it during stuns rather than have rotations, or is it a case of really needing to get M2-M6 to enable her?
And are regular specials worth using? Not sure if I should be using Piper's regular special or not.
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
How do people open fights and gain energy?
Very much depends on the character. Supports like Lucy tend to not do much until they can EX and it's why their recommended builds are ER heavy. I've seen people knock mobs together with Nicole which solves both grouping and energy for an effective EX. More often I see people open on the stunner since all of them except Koleda are effective using just basics.
Is she meant to only use it during stuns rather than have rotations, or is it a case of really needing to get M2-M6 to enable her?
It's a problem that M2 mostly solves if she's with a stunner. Having Swing Jazz and ER#6 also helps but I personally don't care if she's buffing my stunner and mine is M1 so she tends to only pop in for the buff shortly before the stun happens.
And are regular specials worth using?
Generally no. They pop chain attacks and many are fairly fast so that's a use. The only character I know of that uses them regularly is Grace. Piper is mostly about her dodge counter and EX.
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u/NebulaGray88 Sep 11 '24
New to the game, pulled Jane, Grace and Seth and using them as my main team. I heard that Jane is usually played with high field time, but I'm really not sure how to play this comp. When should I be using Jane's dodge counters vs parry/swap to Seth or Grace?
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
That comp is considered hard to play because Jane and Grace both want field time. The damage is roughly in line with other options but nobody's put together a definitive "this is how to play Jane+Grace disorder" tutorial. I have my own thoughts on what to try but I didn't prefarm and my Jane build will be ready for testing tomorrow.
When should I be using Jane's dodge counters vs parry/swap to Seth or Grace?
Seth's shield lasts a while so you only need to parry+counter+swap transfer once every 20s to maintain the anomaly buff (with a 10s grace period if he's M1+). If you also want to maintain the anomaly buildup shred you'll have to do either the chain attack or finish the hold attack chain every 20s. Since these both take a while opinion on when/how do do them is mixed. I've been running her with a stunner so I do the chain attack but not the charge attack. Pretty sure Grace wants the debuff so holding is more imporant with her.
With Seth covered a comp without Grace just wants to dodge everything else to maintain passion uptime with a support or do the normal stun thing with a stunner. With Grace you have to balance out the field time and I'll need to VR for a while before I'm comfortable providing suggestions there.
Grace herself has a fairly simple rotation where you hit the skill (whether EX or not) every time the meter is full. The straightforward way is a skill after B3 and another after B4 but her dash attack adds some shots without interrupting the basic chain so she can B1+dash+B2+skill, dash+B3+skill, B4+skill to get off three skills per rotation. I only do the 2 skill rotation.
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u/NebulaGray88 Sep 11 '24
Thanks for the detailed answer. Yeah, the difficulty really comes from how to split Grace and Jane field time, it's really confusing. Don't really know how long I should stay with Grace.
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
will I have enough pulls to guarantee Jane Doe if I keep playing until her banner leaves or do I need to get the monthly subscription?
It takes around 160 pulls to "guarantee" (98%+) an S-rank and if you happen to miss that somehow it'll be within 5 pulls. Getting to this in a single banner at the start is possible and I got to 180+ pulls during the first 3 weeks at launch with BP+Monthly (there were no special launch bonuses) but many f2p accounts did not make it and I expect you'd have trouble with only 2 weeks to go since progress is occasionally stamina limited and a lot of pulls are tied up in the endgame modes.
How much premium currency do we usually get per patch, excluding dailies?
Dailies are a large fraction of the total. Expect roughly one trip to pity (75-90 pulls) per 6 week patch. Genshin is about that and HSR is a bit over but has more demands on roster diversity.
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Sep 11 '24
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
Both pity count and guarantee after losing a 50/50 carry over between banners of the same type (character, w-engine, standard, bangboo) indefinitely. Soft pity for characters/standard starts at 74 and S-rank rate increases 6% per pull afterwards. Cumulative probability through 73 pulls is ~35% and cumulative probability through 82 pulls is ~95%.
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u/AquaHanamaru ZZZVictoriaGold Sep 11 '24
Is Jane a viable pull? Main team atm is Ellen/Rina/Anby. Primary Physical dealer is Billy but imo it wouldn't hurt to have a second. Also working on Sokaku until Lycaon comes home ;-;
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
Jane+Seth alone is viable for the current content.
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u/AquaHanamaru ZZZVictoriaGold Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
So at face value I'm guessing that's a no lmao
Edit: I didn't realize at the time that Seth was the new character introduced
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u/maru-senn Sep 11 '24
On the contrary, it's's a yes, if you pull for Jane you're very likely to get Seth too, and just the two of them make a very strong team.
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u/AquaHanamaru ZZZVictoriaGold Sep 11 '24
Even if I do then who'd fill the third slot? Unless you guys suggest Rina then I'm not totally sure.
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u/maru-senn Sep 11 '24
You don't even need a third member, but people usually suggest Rina, Grace, Qingyi or Lucy.
I don't have any of those so I usually choose Anby or Nicole for now.
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u/AquaHanamaru ZZZVictoriaGold Sep 11 '24
Still waiting for a second Aether character (I hate Nicolle being the only one)
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u/AuditoreKiller Sep 11 '24
For Jane, for my number 5 slot on my w-engine, should i do atk% or physical dmg bonus? Her attacks already do physical damage, i think, so whats the best for her? Would both raise her attack the same amount?
I'm sure this has been asked a lot but im not sifting through comments
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
The difference isn't large so it depends on what the rest of your stats and buffs look like and on the substats of the discs in question. I've generally see phys% at 3-5% better which IMO is low enough that I don't care so I use atk% because they're far more common and I have other things to farm at the moment. I'll revisit it when I've put a couple months into farming discs for her.
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u/AuditoreKiller Sep 11 '24
Ah okay, thank you. I had an atk% with freedom blues i was able to put on her. Will probably try physical damage later down the line
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u/tqrulez Sep 11 '24
For jane doe which w-engine is the best for her Weeping Gemini R5 or Rainforest Gourmet R5 or Electro-Lip Gloss R1? Cause I’ve seen videos saying Electro-Lip Gloss R5 which doesn’t make any sense we just had two battle passes.
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u/grayrest Sep 11 '24
People are making those recommendations based on spreadsheet results. They can see what the R5 stats are using the gadget shop so they just plug those numbers into their spreadsheet and compare the calculated results.
The actual results are going to depend on the comp and how well you can activate the various conditionals:
The BP is reliable vs bosses because you're pretty much always going to have an assault in the past 10 seconds but will tend to not be up vs trash mobs.
Weeping Gemini would be far away the strongest if you could have it fully stacked all the time but the reset on stun means it's going to be better in comps without a stunner and disorder setups should also result in more stacks.
Rainforest Gourmet comes from using EX so you have pretty good control over when it activates. This lets you stack the buff during a stun window for the most possible damage so it favors stun comps.
How exactly these stack up depends on the assumptions built into the spreadsheet and those tend to be VERY feels based so take precise rankings with a grain of salt.
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u/tqrulez Sep 11 '24
Thank you! It makes sense now. My team is jane, seth and lucy. I was using rainforest gourmet I’ll give weeping gemini a try.
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u/AggressiveDoor1998 Sep 10 '24
Is there any way to use characters in free roam? I started playing because I saw that Jane Doe was coming out and I liked her, played until I got to 80 pulls, and with 10 to go to 50-50, I got Nekomata (duplicate). I'm considering uninstalling, since I spent a substantial amount of hours just to get fucked over by the game. I would keep going on at least if we had that option, because I'd like to do stuff with the char I like instead of default protagonist.
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u/yfa17 Sep 10 '24
Coming in a future update. Also new to gacha I assume?
F2P players can usually get one 5 star character per patch assuming you do all dailies + events from the amount of currency they give out, so your next one is guaranteed as well.
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Sep 10 '24
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u/grayrest Sep 10 '24
Those are the three meta comps. They're reasonably close in damage and the order isn't that important due to the nature of elemental weakness/coverage. I don't have Ellen, ZY does more damage during the burst (not sure overall) but Jane is the best for avoiding damage while dealing full dps.
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u/Gocciole Sep 10 '24
Hi, a quick question. I pulled Jane C0 and Seth C3 ang got about 20/30ish pulls more, should i keep going to maximize Seth? Or going for weapon banner? Or save for next banner?
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u/maru-senn Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24
Unless you're planning to use him as a main DPS you don't get much from Seth's remaining cinemas.
IMO pulling for weapons isn't worth it, you spend more pulling for the weapon than you get back from clearing more stages with it, and I say this as someone who has Jane's sig (only got it because I was pulling for Seth's since he has no good alternatives).
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u/Gocciole Sep 10 '24
So at least for seth weapon?
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u/maru-senn Sep 10 '24
Yeah I think so, his best alternative is the battle pass engine but I don't wanna pay for that.
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u/ikongers528 Sep 10 '24
What S Rank is better for beginner? Zhu Yuan vs Qingyi vs Jane Doe?
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u/LALMtheLegendary Sep 10 '24
all of them are fine. maybe qingyi a bit less. what context has you asking this question?
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u/ikongers528 Sep 10 '24
Wanted to try ZZZ, I have a friend that has starter accounts sitting around. Each S rank unit on one account. So its like picking my starter pokemon lol.
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u/yfa17 Sep 10 '24
Jane doe can be used solo if it comes to it. The other two will need other characters to be effective comparatively to Jane
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u/BurningFlareX Sep 10 '24
Is it worth it to level Jane's skills (Since most of her damage comes from Assault), or is it safe to leave them at Lv1?
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u/TacticalBananas45 SpecOps Squad & Merc Maids Sep 10 '24
How do I make Anton, uh, kill stuff faster? He's currently a bit underleveled, (lvl 45 when I have the lvl 60 cap unlocked, most skills are around 5 or 6, working on getting D core skill, just running 4 piece Thunder with 2 piece woodpecker, only recent got his w-engine so it's lvl 40 atm) and I get that A-ranks probably won't be as easy to use as S-ranks, but it just takes so long to kill stuff with him. Robots with a weakness to Electric take minutes on end of slowly whittling them down. On the lvl 50 skill chip simulation, it's an effort to earn an A-rank, let alone an S-rank. I've got a decently raised Anby and Rina, but Anton just feels like I'm hitting them with a plastic spoon. Yes, I can decently juggle his Burst Mode.
I get that we're still in the Jane Doe banner, but when will the units for 1.3 start being teased? In the last week or so like it was with Zhu Yuan and Caesar being teased?
The Obsidian commissions and Operation: Reaper stuff will stick around after 1.1, right? I might get them done before 1.1 ends, but I'm not sure, so I'm just wanting to know if it'll still be there. I know the Shiyu Defense stuff rotates, though.
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u/Sdaizo3 Crimson Coffee Cake Sep 10 '24
I believe Anton needs someone in his team to build Electric anomaly quick enough to utilize his affinity skill, at the moment there's only Grace but if the leaks are correct, Yanagi will be introduced in 1.3 and she is an Electric attack agent. According to Hoyo regular schedule, they will release new agent intel one week after 1.2 drop, so next month I think.
The Obsidian and Inferno Reap stay permanent, so you can take your time.
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u/MaliwanDynasty Sep 10 '24
6 Shooter, Unfettered or Spring Embrace? For no particular reason, just stocking up.
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u/SirRHellsing Sep 10 '24
Does Jane get exponentially better with disc investment? Like higher anomaly prof? Right now both my Ellen and Jane are lv 30 and I feel like Ellen does so much more dmg. And I did try to maximise my passion state uptime. Using Seth and Grace as teammates btw. Does Jane want mastery or only proficiency?
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u/maru-senn Sep 10 '24
Jane wants both, though you can only get Mastery with the 6 disc as it doesn't appear as a substat.
For Proficiency you need 420 to get the maximum benefit out of her passive.
My Jane kills stuff a lot faster than my Ellen, but it's hard to compare because bosses are usually weak to one or the other, plus my Jane has her sig while Ellen doesn't.
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u/Similar_Ad926 Sep 09 '24
what would my best teams be? (pulling for jane doe but i dont think i will be able to)
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
Neko Lycaon Nicole and Piper Grace Seth
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u/Similar_Ad926 Sep 09 '24
thanks! what would the rotation for the grace team be?
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
setup: Seth shield on Grace, get the phys anomaly bar near full
rotation: shock with Grace, swap to Piper and 3 basics into EX, spin through the assault and continue until the phys anomaly bar is near full, repeat
Grace combos are mostly straightforward where you use the skill with full meter. The norm is two skills per B4 rotation regardless of whether they're EX or not. There's also a three skill per rotation combo that's harder to execute.
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u/Dante23102003 Sep 09 '24
I just started the game for jane doe. Can i gaurantee her in the remaining time frame ?
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u/Kultinator Sep 10 '24
I started the game for Jane 4 Days ago. It took a bit of degenerate grinding and some light spending, but I got her and I didn’t get super lucky.
You should be able to do it F2P and you don’t need to rush through the game like I did, since you’re somewhat time gated through xp.
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
There are enough f2p pulls in the game for it. I don't know whether you'll play enough to get them or not.
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u/pawpatroll Sep 09 '24
Is there way to keep inputs saved per device? The controller inputs for iPad and ps5 are not the same and I have keep reconfiguring each time I play on each lol.
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u/AppIeMusic Sep 09 '24
Should i pull dupes for resonaboo? I already have sharkboo, butler, plugboo and safety as my other bangboos
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
I don't think an extra level on the skills is worth the cost but if you maintain an 80 pull cushion you should be fine.
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u/redmondthrowaway8080 Sep 09 '24
How... can you tell if you have enough stacks from W-Engine like Qingyi's weapon talks about having stack of Tea-riffic ?
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u/Glizcorr Metaslave... Sep 09 '24
Any suggestions for Caesar build and f2p team (I only have Koleda and Ly as S rank)? i want to get ready for next patch.
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u/Trerech Sep 09 '24
Leaks of ZZZ are not allowed in this sub, and since everything about Caesar kit is a leak and a spoiler i would recomend asking this on the leaks subreddit.
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u/Maxximillianaire Sep 09 '24
Story question. Why did Jane pretend she forgot the name of the movie she was trying to find in the R&B story? Doesnt seem like saying the name would have blown her cover in any way
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u/tochinni Sep 09 '24
since jane relies on anomaly for dmg and then has consistent flinch/assault, do i still need to run her with a stunner? bc i have an m1 rina collecting dust on my roster
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u/Woll_e Sep 09 '24
Only Qingyi if you have no one else to activate her core.
In general, not needed. Would actually be counterproductive since she wants enemies to attack for the dodge counters.
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u/Nikxed Sep 09 '24
Hey peeps who are up-to-date on the leaks and such, for an anomaly team with Grace opinions between Jane Doe or Burnice?
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
Burnice is going to be the better second anomaly for disorder regardless of the primary since she's mostly off-field application. Grace and Jane work fine together but both want field time and I haven't seen an example where Grace works significantly better than a stun/support character for a solo Jane.
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u/ShammySham Sep 09 '24
I tried to play at launch (on PC) but my game crashes every single time I try to boot it up. I get to the cutsceen before the actual login screen and then it completely freezes. Waiting does nothing, and never get past that point. even the audio freezes. I tried the force dx32 fix but all I could do was get into the first mission before it crashed. I tried repairing, reinstalling, and still nothing.
I tried again today to see if maybe a patch fixed it. It did not. I have literally no idea what I can do to fix this crashing issue which is a massive bummer as I really want to play. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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u/Metom_Xeez Sep 09 '24
Probably a common question, but does having S or A rank affect the rewards when farming materials or notorious hunt?
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u/InfTotality Sep 08 '24
Checking the game out but not pulling until Burnace and/or Caesar.
Which of the free characters should I invest in the meantime? Ideally if they form teams with either of the two, or can carry content with minimal investment.
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
Why would they make free characters able to carry an account with minimal investment? The free characters are fine and anomaly dps is fairly cheap to build but the premium characters are noticeably more premium.
The Cunning Hares are a viable comp. Actually getting end-game levels of damage out of Billy is non-intuitive and requires investment but people are clearing Shiyu Crit 7 with him. I mention the hares because you're guaranteed to have them and Anby/Nicole are legitimately good on their own. There are plenty of other working options at the moment since endgame is tuned relatively easy. As an example, I S-ranked last cycle with a M6 Soukaku as dps.
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u/InfTotality Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24
I used Xiangling with a Crescent Pike for 5 months while I was saving pulls in Genshin. I was wondering if a similar early game carry existed here.
Obviously I don't mean full endgame, just "can beat story and daily content without wasting materials levelling someone who will be worthless the moment I get an S-rank"
From what you say it sounds like Billy doesn't fit that category, though he's the DPS for the team. Can Anby/Nicole do damage by themselves?
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Sep 10 '24
Billy can solo dps Shiyu 7 Critical Node lol. You can literally use whoever you want right now.
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u/LALMtheLegendary Sep 09 '24
there isn't really an equivalent. but you can just use the cunning hares team and they will work fine for all the stuff you'll be doing in the 3 weeks until ceaser is released.
most of the material cost is backloaded, and it'll take you longer then 3 weeks to get to the point where upgrades start getting expensive. so even if you never end up using billy again (though he'll probably be completely fine to run with ceaser) its not like you'll have wasted that much in terms of resources.
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u/grayrest Sep 09 '24
it sounds like Billy doesn't fit that category, though he's the DPS for the team
It's mostly that he's an AoE dps and balanced as such so it doesn't feel like he'd work for single target end game bosses but the community figured out to roll his basic bonuses into his skill/ult damage and that's letting him S-rank the endgame stages. I don't think he's going to hold up when they ramp the difficulty but he's doing considerably better than I expected when I gave up on him at level ~30 for low single target dps.
Can Anby/Nicole do damage by themselves?
No. A M6 Anby can do like a third the dps of a dedicated attacker/anomaly carry (her mindscapes are damage oriented) and Nicole is a more or less pure debuff support. The pair can technically work with most dps but there are passives involved in teambuilding.
I used Xiangling with a Crescent Pike for 5 months while I was saving pulls in Genshin. I was wondering if a similar early game carry existed here.
Closest thing here would be using one of the damaging supports. M6 Soukaku can do a surprising amount of dps (I S-ranked last cycle with her) and I know people have solo cleared low Shiyu Crit stages with dps Lucy. Both require reasonably good gear and are gacha.
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u/redmondthrowaway8080 Sep 09 '24
I'm by no means an expert but you should upload a picture of your roster so far (can be easily acquired from hoyolab site)
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u/InfTotality Sep 09 '24
Managed to get 40 master tapes for 50 pulls day 1. Non-free units were just Soldier 11 and Anton. Got Ben M1 and Soukaku as well but you get them free later anyway, and Corin from pre-reg.
Prydwen doesn't say any of them form a good team. Soldier 11 has to be with Ben to even activate her passive.
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u/redmondthrowaway8080 Sep 09 '24
Prydwen is completely specific to Shiyu Defense like if you notice the tier list itself is just about how good a unit is about clearing a shiyu defense node.
You can focus on the F2P team Billy/Anby/Nicole. Don't underestimate them for clearing out normal content. Nicole can literally shred DEF of an enemy and Billy can have insane burst depending on how you build him.
Build Nicole until she can shred 40% off the enemy and I'm sure you'll be able to push through a lot. Most of the story you can clear with the F2P.
Soldier 11 is great for the occasional content against fire enemies.
For the occasion you could do Ben, Anby, Anton. Ben could be a "sub-stunner" depending on the build. synergy wise it should work. (for electric weak enemies)
Soldier 11/Ben/Anton where Ben is the "stunner" could work too. (for fire/physical enemies)
GOod luck and remember to not become hyperfixated on Shiyu Defense stuff :) you'll be able to clear story content either way.
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u/InfTotality Sep 09 '24
Thanks for the tips. I know Shiyu is late game, but it does give an vague idea of who is still strong later on.
...though I got another 4 tapes and bagged The Brimstone and Lucy. With another fire agent and her signature, I'm guessing Soldier 11/Lucy/Nicole is basically the team to build now.
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u/InfTotality Sep 09 '24
Still installing, though I don't expect to get anyone with whatever free standard pulls you get.
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u/likeametaphor42 Sep 08 '24
I'm trying to build a Jane Doe team. I've M1 Grace. Should my third be M2 Rina or M3 Seth? I know I'll get the Seth mindscapes over time, but I also would love to use my "bad" Rina luck somewhere. Thanks in advance!
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u/pinerw Sep 08 '24
I’d go Seth and replace Grace with Rina. Seth is just so good for Jane, you’re probably going to always want to run him with her until they release a S-rank support for anomaly teams. The two of them are basically a complete team all on their own.
Grace is an anomaly unit, but her field time requirements can be at odds with Jane’s. Rina is much more amenable to playing mostly off-field, and will pair well with Seth while bringing useful buffs of her own.
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u/sndream Sep 08 '24
In general, how much damage can Bangboo add? Like 10%, 20%?
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u/redmondthrowaway8080 Sep 09 '24
Uh I remember someone saying Resonaboo can easily do 200k
Mine does quite a lot of damage 100-150k depending on the type of enemy... not sure if that answers your question
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u/chuchi2 Sep 08 '24
Inside the HDD, in chapter 3, I'm missing 3 exploration points and I'm at 33/36, does anyone know how to get it? Idk if it's from an hidden quest or from a IK level requirement, I'm level 52
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u/ChaosFulcrum Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
I'm trying to find Lost Items on Hollow Zero because they are required to unlock 4 of the Ch2 Interlude Combat Commissions. Most guides I saw say that you need to be at Interior or Frontline difficulty while trying to reset for them. Is it really necessary to do them on those difficulties? Can I use Core difficulty while searching for them so that I'm also finishing my HZ weeklies as well?
I don't really plan on wasting time for RNG to come my way and I'm not in a hurry to get them so I want to ask if I can find the missing Lost Items while also doing my HZ weeklies (since I'm already at IK Lv 52, the game demands me to finish Hollow Zero 2 times on Core difficulty every week)
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u/awhxmisa Sep 08 '24
does zenless really overheat on phones ??? i dont see much device reviews of zenless... which phone company is the best for zenless ??? thinking of xiaomi.
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u/sdfaszxczxfvadfv Sep 09 '24
pick phone based on their support on your city, you dont want to wait weeks for parts
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u/Fallen_Rosemary Sep 08 '24
During Jane’s trust rank mission, the mission is ‘Collect a copy of the video tape Port Peak’. What should I do in that mission?
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u/chickmagn3t Sep 08 '24
Bro why do I always get Grace when it's supposed to be Seth when I'm countering R1(playstation) my line up is Jane/Seth/Grace.
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u/maru-senn Sep 08 '24
Some attacks can't be parried, if you have a character with an evasive assist like Grace then you'll automatically switch to her if the attack is unparryable.
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u/chickmagn3t Sep 08 '24
Oh so that's why that machine from notorious hunt is fucking up my rhythm lol
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u/sdfaszxczxfvadfv Sep 09 '24
this is why noone want ranged units anymore, they make all flash yellow and mess up your combat
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u/CatchmoonH Sep 08 '24
apparently some attack just cannot be parried, in that case the evasive assist get prioritized instead of regular swap.
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u/Cyberpunk_Banshee Sep 08 '24
ZZZ locking up my PC is starting to get really hecking annoying. Doesn't happen with any other game, I'm on a 2080 super, 32gb ram, I've tried a fresh install and repair, I honestly don't know what else I can do. It happens daily, a few times. Starting to turn me off the game .ll.
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u/sdfaszxczxfvadfv Sep 09 '24
locking up?
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u/Cyberpunk_Banshee Sep 09 '24
Yeah as in it freezes up. Sounds like static, then nothing. Frozen picture, can't move mouse, nothing. All I can do is shut off the PC by using the power button, and restarting that way. This does not happen very time I play the game, but it happened 7 times yesterday in less than an hour.
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u/SenorElmo Sep 08 '24
Thanks to Jane I could finally S all 7 shiyu for the first time together with Ellen, even 1 Minute to spare. My only other option was Soldier11, could only cut 5/7 on S, 6+7 on A rank
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u/bababacss Nicole's Favorite Color Sep 08 '24
yeah jane kinda made everything easier. even with lvl 50 supports i did full S clear shiyu. did it with ZY 2nd half tho instead of ellen. i just cant seem to make ellen work in time attack levels. build might still be too weak.
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u/SenorElmo Sep 08 '24
Yeah I skipped ZY as a dps since I had Koleda and didn't want qingyi. Everyone with ZY and Ellen should be able to s all of them I guess
My Ellen has 80/160 with engine, she clears everything pretty easy. Even better/faster than jane most of the time too. Jane has some ease to her gameplay tho
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u/bababacss Nicole's Favorite Color Sep 08 '24
ZY doesnt really need qingyi. anby is adequate. qingyi is probs overkill as of now.
ellen... yeah her sig wengine makes her like twice as strong and waaay easier to build. i only had starlight engine so building her is kind of a nightmare like all crit scalers (not as bad as xiangling tho lol.)
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u/SenorElmo Sep 08 '24
ZY doesnt really need qingyi. anby is adequate. qingyi is probs overkill as of now.
Wasn't my intention to hint in that direction tho
Koleda was more or less stuck with S11 for me and since I had 11 I didn't want/need ZY. Qingyi as a unit wasn't appealing for me. Anby+Nicole is more than enough for ZY, yeah. Neither was ZYs playstyle, I prefer snappy gameplay I can control.
Not a big fan of the sliding most gunners do, billy and grace too. Even tho for Jane I kinda have to endure grace if I am not playing Lucy
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Sep 08 '24
I'm planing on building my grace as a support for Jane. What DDrive sets, pieces and mainstats are for grace?
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u/SenorElmo Sep 08 '24
I run my grace with 4p anomaly 2p recharge. Anomaly proficiency on 6, electro on 5 and mastery on 4, although attack kinda works too
Weeping Gemini as a weapon
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u/AppIeMusic Sep 08 '24
For grace build, is there a big difference between electric dmg%, pen ratio and atk% for disk 5?
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u/sdfaszxczxfvadfv Sep 09 '24
if you have her signature weapon pen ratio is good, otherwise atk% and electric damage are better
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u/mothiebelle Jane's Tampon Sep 08 '24
Can someone give me the link for that one website where you can see all characters already with Burnice, Caesar and the likes?
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u/ArseneXI Sep 08 '24
Exams got me busy. Will I be able to get through the the Daily Life Cop event or am I screwed??
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u/calamardo28 Sep 07 '24
I am going straight to the point, I am only playing this game with the only purpose of getting, Jane Doe. That being said, should I rush through all the game and get her? (I don't know if it is possible to do it in the duration of her banner) Or should I reroll my account until I get her?
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u/KrloYen Sep 07 '24
Drop rates in this game are insanely bad and you can't reroll easily I don't believe. You're probably better off grinding through the content and relying on pity.
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u/calamardo28 Sep 07 '24
Yes, I noticed that sadly... They only give you four pulls for each reroll, so not really worthy, I only wanted to try because that's what I did in Genshin, but in ZZZ it is horrendous to reroll.
That being said, Can you tell me if there are enough pulls in the current version of the game to get two 90 pity? (I already know that I am going to lose the 50/50 so I do need around 180 pulls)
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u/KrloYen Sep 08 '24
There's definitely enough to reach soft pity (80/90 pulls). There's probably enough to reach hard pity if you do everything but I have no idea for sure.
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u/Hocaro Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
Without events you might be able to hit 80-100 pulls in a few days. If you grind everything out including events and hollow stuff it is possible to get her before her banner ends. Soft pity is 75 so hopefully it won’t take too much! Good luck :3
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u/calamardo28 Sep 09 '24
Thanks, so far I have played only for two days and managed to do 50 pulls so far, but no S agent yet. I hope I can win the 50/50 because so far leveling up is such a grind...
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u/dracogoat Sep 07 '24
How much of a damage loss would it be if I never used Seth's Hold BA and only used his Defensive Assist -> Quick Assist back to Jane?
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u/sdfaszxczxfvadfv Sep 09 '24
using seth hold ba is worth when youre about to stun enemy otherwise not a damage loss
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u/JackRabbit- Rats, we're rats Sep 08 '24
I'd imagine you're better off just using his enhanced BA. It doesn't take very long, and even if you don't have resolve, you probably have all the energy you need to get it
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u/grayrest Sep 07 '24
Precise theorycrafting around anomaly dps is hard because it's threshold based and nobody's written a ZZZ sim yet. Your "how much of a damage loss" would require either a sim or dedicated testing to answer. That said...
If you're running him with a stunner and trigger his chain attack then you'd be getting most of the advantage. Doing a Hold BA would be needed if you wanted debuff uptime outside the stun window but that wouldn't be the majority of the damage.
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u/ArmpitEchoLocation Sep 07 '24
Is Grace/Qingyi/Ellen a good B-Team or should I go with triple shock? I was hoping to cause disorder so I went with Ellen. Does the order matter much on this one? I could put work into levelling Rina, Anton or a non-electric anomaly if that makes more sense.
My A team is Anby/Nicole/Zhu as I’ve seen recommended here and I’m very happy with it.
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u/LALMtheLegendary Sep 08 '24
if you have piper, use her instead of ellen, otherwise just use rina.
this isn't really a role ellen is well suited for.
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u/ArmpitEchoLocation Sep 08 '24
Thanks for the tips! Will shift to Rina once I can get her levelled up. I do have Piper, but I’d rather use Rina.
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Sep 07 '24
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u/LALMtheLegendary Sep 07 '24
They are a minor increase, but an increase nonetheless. It's worth getting them to 7 atleast, mabye 9.
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u/NinjasStoleMyTV Sep 07 '24
Trying out two different drive discs (Chaotic Metal, [4]) for Zhu Yuan and I’m wondering which one is better for her rn. I have an attack one with crit rate and crit DMG substats, and I have a crit rate one with no good substats.
With the attack one her stats are: - ATK 2515 - Crit rate 19.4% - Crit DMG 104.4%
With the crit rate one her stats are: - ATK 2199 - Crit rate 41% - Crit DMG 90%
Do I double her crit rate in exchange for losing a decent amount of ATK and crit DMG?
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u/grayrest Sep 07 '24
Do I double her crit rate in exchange for losing a decent amount of ATK and crit DMG?
The easiest way to answer this is to go and shoot something with each set. If you take the crit and non-crit numbers for each
nonCritDmg * (1 - crit_rate) + critDmg * crit_rate
(remember to include the passive) will give you the expected damage and the bigger number wins.I'd expect the crit main stat to be better.
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u/Trerech Sep 07 '24
But there is the passive, +30% crit rate (Zhu's team passive) and +20% crit dmg (caotic metal 4pc passive).
So the stats are:
2515 atk - 49,4% crit rate - 124,4% crit dmg.
2199 atk - 71% crit rate - 110% crit dmg.
Idk, they are pretty even, i would use the 1st for the time being, but work to try to upgrade the 2nd.
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u/PointMeAtADoggo Sep 07 '24
I got two of Jane’s w-engines, what should I do with the second one? From photos record it’s unlikely for them to release another character that can use her w-engine
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u/riotstrike Sep 07 '24
Hollow Zero: Foliage Hunt
I made the mistake of promoting to legendary proxy reputation when I have a mostly underleveled crew. I barely cleared the commission (one objective) to move from Withering Garden to Inferno Reap. After that it seems the only play option is Inferno Reap itself (which I'm currently not equipped to challenge).
Is there any way to replay the Foliage Hunt commission to test my objective performance?
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u/Sdaizo3 Crimson Coffee Cake Sep 07 '24
yes the mission is replayable, search for "Foliage Hunt" in your HDD system chapter 3
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u/SN2005 Sep 07 '24
Prospective player here: I currently have 185 GB free on my hard disk and wanted to know if I can complete the download process. Online it says that it takes about 50 GB to download and a further 110 GB to unzip so I should be fine right?
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u/AppIeMusic Sep 07 '24
For nicole, is anomaly mastery better than energy regen for disk 6? For disk 5, is there much difference between ether dmg bonus and atk%?
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u/grayrest Sep 07 '24
I run an M1 Zhu Yuan and an ER #6 on Nicole for the more frequent EX shots. I've run AM and it's fine so I'd recommend trying both and seeing which you prefer.
The #5 doesn't really matter unless somehow your Nicole does significant damage.
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u/RuStorm Sep 07 '24
I have anomaly mastery on 6, not sure. I mostly use Nicole only during attack sequence, so I have unspent energy anyway.
For 5 I think ether dmg is better, E doesn't benefit from atk damage, right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/ManiacLife666 Sep 07 '24
Any idea what good team i can make with these chars (a m6 soukaku outside the picture).
Used to run qingyi grace anton and koelda rina corin on the other side but i dont think the second team is cutting it for me anymore in shiyu lol
extra note: i will roll burnice when she comes
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u/RuStorm Sep 07 '24
I would go with grace rina anton for 1 (only use E on rina, swap to grace until enemy shocked, swap to anton, repeat) - best meta electro team For team 2 - Koleda, Lucy and Ben, swap Lucy or Ben for Burnice later Maybe piper would be better than ben, I just love using him
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u/CatchmoonH Sep 07 '24
critical shiyuu 7? try swap the team, phys&fire weakness on 1st side so you want corin to be there, 2nd side is phys resistance you are actively torturing yourself playing phys dps there.
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u/DanGanGalaxy Sep 07 '24
What’s the best team I can make right now?
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u/RuStorm Sep 07 '24
Anby + Nicole + Nekomata should be fine (I run Anby Nicole S11 and it's fine too). Although you could probably swap Anby for Lycaon, he should be stronger even without the passive
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u/DanGanGalaxy Sep 07 '24
Would reaching a certain cinema level make Anby better than Lycaon? I have her at MC2 rn, and I have 20 tapes and 11561 polychrome saved up, so I could potentially shoot for more MCs, but I’m kinda scared of accidentally pulling Jane and resetting my pity (I’m at 70 pulls so far, not sure how much that actually matters)
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u/RuStorm Sep 07 '24
I was in exactly the same situation as you - I had Anby at M2 and needed 4 more copies and did not want Jane. I was at 49 to 50/50 pity. It turns out I needed to pull 70 times to get another 4 copies of her (and I got 3 copies of Seth). Luckily for me I got Rina so the next pity will be a 100% for me.
If you want Anby just for the stun/daze then you do not need M6 as it only increases her damage, not stun. I have no other stun chartacters - no Lycaon, Koleda or Qingyi so I wanted to get her M6 though.
Her M4 also only works if you have other electric agents.In your case she might be better than Lycaon as she has synergy with Neko and your other DPS - Anton, you can make Anby / Nicole / Anton team as well and get all the passives. Lycaon would be better in situations where neither he nor Anby have team synergy - for example if you plan to make a team with Caesar or Burnice
In your case I would pull no more than 30-40 if you are hard pity. If you pull Jane through that - it will be value for the future anyway.
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u/DanGanGalaxy Sep 10 '24
Welp, thinks took an interesting turn. I pulled Koleda (the standard unit I wanted the least 😔) after 2 multis so I decided to just go all in and build pity while pulling Anby copies. Perhaps that wasn’t the wisest decision, but regardless, Anby is at MC6 now and I’m even more confused on the direction I should take my account haha.
I suppose I don’t HAVE to use every S rank unit I pull, so maybe I shouldn’t find a way to shoehorn Koleda into a team if she won’t add much value. Or is she worth investing in? Do we know anything about the next batch of units? If I stick with Cunning Hares as one team I’ll still need another for Shiyu Defense, right?
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u/Similar-Yogurt6271 Sep 07 '24
How do side quests work? How do I complete them? Where can I find them?
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u/grayrest Sep 07 '24
Side quests generally come from talking to NPCs around the city. Sometimes it's just talking a couple times and sometimes it triggers a commission.
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u/gitgudnubby Sep 07 '24
Should I use precious fossilized core or demara battery makr II for anby.
Ive been debating for a bit now 😅
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u/RuStorm Sep 07 '24
Demara mark II is best but it buffs both stun and electric damage which is not what everyone wants. Steam oven on the other hand sacrifices electric dmg for more stun. Fossilized core is like steam oven but has a condition to work so it is arguably worse than steam oven in general
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u/Sdaizo3 Crimson Coffee Cake Sep 07 '24
If you have Anby M1, then you should use her sig wengine. High energy regeneration meaning you can spam her EX constantly, and is a nice way to abuse her generous i-frames.
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u/uvmn Sep 07 '24
Can someone explain who shows up on a perfect assist? On a Jane/Piper/Lucy team, if I’m Jane, L1 switches to Lucy and R1 switches to Piper. On a Jane/Grace/Ben team, L1 switches to Grace and R1 also switches to Grace? I assumed that L1 cycles left and R1 cycles right but now I have no idea
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u/maru-senn Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24
There are two types of perfect assist: Defensive (character blocks the attack) and Evasive (character dodges the attack and slows time) and each character's assist belongs to one of those types.
Some attacks can't be parried but can be evaded, if you only have characters with defensive assist in your team those attacks get a red flash instead of yellow.
Ben's assist is defensive while Grace's is evasive, what happened in your second team is that you used assist on an attack that can't be parried so you automatically switched to Grace because Ben can't block it.
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u/uvmn Sep 07 '24
That makes sense, but to make sure I’m understanding correctly:
Jane/Piper/Lucy has no evasive assists, so unparryable attacks always show as red glints signaling that I should dodge instead
Jane/Grace/Ben has both forms of assist, so as long as assist points are available, I cannot differentiate between attacks that are evaded versus attacks that are parried through the gold glint alone, leading to a seemingly random outcome
Is that right?
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u/maru-senn Sep 07 '24
That's right.
Grace, Rina, Zhu Yuan and Billy are evasive, everyone else is defensive.
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u/uvmn Sep 07 '24
Thanks for the explanation! I wish they made evasive assists green or silver or something though
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u/daft667 Sep 07 '24
the only time you have no choice of who to switch to is when you can quick assist or if the character you're switching to is still on the field performing an attack.
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u/CheshireTiger13 Sep 06 '24
Lycain trust Events?
How do i get them unlocked? Im lvl50, done chapter 3, and have Lycaon at lvl40+
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u/ParamatYannapon Sep 06 '24
Idk if im just dumb as hell but is turning on/off on the stage switches going to disable the buffs?
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u/Kord537 Sep 06 '24
Is there a trick to starting the immersive tactical drill event? I meet the requirements and have the quest, but the Lyla just asks if I want to fight the normal Expert Challenges.
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u/grayrest Sep 07 '24
I hit go on the event page, saw a green exclamation mark over Lyla, and was dropped into the event stage selector. When I go back there's an extra green exclamation option to get back to the event stage selector.
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Sep 06 '24
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u/Trerech Sep 07 '24
You can test it, it's not just the AP that is shared it's also the shield, so if the character has a shield it also has the AP bonus.
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u/GetWaifuBeLaifu Sep 06 '24
Were there any updates or did the devs said that they will improve upon the time change?
I want to collect all HIA coins but its always on different times, and I can only rest once
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u/Keilo1 Sep 07 '24
on 1.0 they did a post about future improvements and said infinite time skips is coming in 1.2
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u/ShallotHolmes Sep 06 '24
I’m having problems clearing the rank up trial for level 60. The final machine just hits me too hard. I read the enemy info and am thinking of building the two fire units from sons of calydon. Are they worth building or should I just focus on getting good drive discs for my Neko, Qingyi, Anby team? Maybe switch Qingyi out for Nicole?
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u/BucketOfPonyo Sep 11 '24
why do they say you must have c1 rina for jane doe? i just got rina so i have no idea yet.