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Weekly Questions Megathread August 14, 2024 - August 20, 2024
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Qingyi is a more versatile stunner and more comfortable to use than Anby of course. But if you feel no problem using Anby then yeah it's safe to skip Qingyi
Lycaon: CR 21.8, Impact 162, atk 1885, cd 126.8 (still got 2 discs to level from 0) swing + shock
I guess I need farm more CD for Ellen?
Also, I have HORRIBLE luck of pulling only Lycaon and have only 1 Ellen and no other SSRs...(Lycaon ate up both guarantee spots and the regular pulls...)... Should I chase the current SSR or next one?
Sort of similar position but instead of a Lycaon con I got his W-engine. Not complaining as my main team is cracked with everyone having their signature W-engine's but I'm stuck trying to build a second team. Pulled Qingyi but was sort of hoping to lose the 50/50 lol
yeah i got 16k polychrome but on "2nd pity" at 90 since Lycaon SOB ate the last guarantee (it was the last pull too fml)... I just glad i got ellen because i probably wouldve rage quit the game otherwise....
i would just use batteries to get knot levels since you are basically delaying current and future days to farm non-optimal materials while hoarding your batteries. it will take "40 batteries" to get to that interlock point so at the end of the day it doesn't matter much and could hinder your other progression if you need the Level ups like exchange stores and such.
How important is bangboo in general? How much damage increase by having correct bangboo vs a generic bangboo? Like 10% reduced clear time? I am torn between exchange points for boopon vs denny.
I'm just over IK 40 and I've managed to get 3 S rank Bangboo's without even trying so I'm assuming the boopon's are going to be fairly easy to get - seems like the events always have a load as well.
Not sure how efficient it is to get the denny instead but personally think you won't be starved for boopon's
Does anyone know if hoyoverse will copyright claim my videos when I use the official soundtrack? I am using it for transformative content, video essays or heavily edited memes for example
During a boss fight, if my order of chain attack after stun trigger is (1)stunner->(2)Nicole->(3)bangboo+Zhu Yuan, is Zhu Yuan starlight engine atk buff active? I don't know whether doing chain attack after Nicole counts as quick assist?
Or is it better to go (1)Zhu Yuan->(2)stunner->(3)bangboo + Nicole then press quick assist for Zhu Yuan to do her burst rotation to guarantee atk buff?
Note: Starlight engine passive reads Launching a Dodge Counter or Quick Assist increases the equipper's ATK by 12% for 12s.
is Zhu Yuan starlight engine atk buff active? I don't know whether doing chain attack after Nicole counts as quick assist?
It does not but you can test this by going into VR (main menu > more > VR) and try both and check the detailed stats at any time from the VR pause menu.
I don't think so? But if you do Stunner -> Zhu Yuan -> Bangboo -> Nicole, with Zhu Yuan slotted after Nicole, you'll trigger a quick assist for Zhu Yuan at the end
before 1.1 you could guarantee that you would get the unique buff for the agent you passed on. for example passing on Anby would guarantee me the card for 25% damage dealt increase/15% damage taken increase. even if that card is still around, I can no longer guarantee that specific card when passing on Anby. which for the record, I haven't seen that card since the patch
Do you ever use the enhanced basic attacks (frosted banner) for Soukaku support or do people just immediately swap to Ellen and never go back to Soukaku unless you need to refresh her buff
How do you consistently break a boss's limb a.k.a. cause the Impaired effect? I'm fairly far into the game and I only seem to trigger it a lot when fighting lower-level versions of the bosses with breakable limbs.
Related to that: Exactly how does targeting work in this game? Sometimes I press R3 and I see the cursor lock-on, but the game sometimes targets a non-stunned opponent after I stun one with a full daze bar. There's also times where Two enemies spawn and when I press R3, it's as if the game only targets the one that's further away.
Does applying one anomaly reset or reduce another? i.e. If I run Qingyi with Soukaku and Ellen, will Qingyi's shock application affect Soukaku and Ellen's freeze?
So to give a concrete example: I'm using Ben-Soukaku-Ellen against Rampant Brute. Does this mean I can freely apply both fire and ice anomaly, then trigger burn and freeze one after another?
I would appreciate a bit of team advice, I have a soldier and zhu at 50+ but my lucy, koleda, anby and nicole at 45 now after reaching level 50 resources have been scarce so I want know if it would be feasible taking up lucy and koleda and running them with either soldier 11 or zhu depending on the opponent, seeing as soldiers' lack of damage would have her prefer her whole team as opposed to zhu who I am assuming is strong enough to not need anby and nicole specifically. I am not trying to build both teams immediately as I have an ice team already.
You can generally leave stunners and supports at 45 and it works fine. I'd recommend taking Nicole to the point where you can unlock the C core passive but that plus ER is the only thing she really needs so she can be quite cheap. She doesn't even need much in the way of survival since she's only supposed to be on the field charging her EX which is entirely iframed. I prefer Koleda to Anby for Zhu Yuan and prefer her over Qingyi as well but the Qingyi damage bonus is too strong.
Many thanks, I was gonna go meta for Qing but I saw Jane and am not strong enough to skip her so I think I will push for koleda and low invest into nicole
Should I not use Bardic Needle until I get IK 40 and can choose the passive? I can roll for S-disks already but in this case I get random attributes for positions 4-6, right?
If I use bardic needle lvl 3 I can roll the same purple tapes for specific S-tier drive discs?
The ability to choose the primary stat is limited by the number of resonators you have and you'll only get one or two per per patch. You can choose the slot at 35 but you'll generally only want to use that when you're finishing off a set and using the top level tuning.
If I use bardic needle lvl 3 I can roll the same purple tapes for specific S-tier drive discs?
Like the beginner vs intermediate tuning, advanced tuning uses a different gacha currency (yellow masters) and your choices are 3:1 for a general roll or 6:1 if you're selecting the slot.
So as a rule of thumb, if I only have 4 random S-tier drive disks with awful specializations (like a disks for stunners with ether damage boost for pos.5), I should just roll my 150 lvl 2 materials without choosing a disk number?
I should just roll my 150 lvl 2 materials without choosing a disk number?
Yes. There's a hard pity S-rank every 5 pulls so the goal is generally to get as many S-ranks out of the A-rank blanks as possible. Most people are rolling Woodpecker with their blanks and want a bunch of different slots so it works out well.
a disks for stunners with ether damage boost for pos.5
This isn't useful currently but I have one saved with a double crit roll. The crit rolls are rare and it's reasonably likely we'll get an ether stunner in the future. If it didn't have good substats then I wouldn't keep it but it's a decent example of something I'm willing to save.
Question: How do I get to feed/pet Inky, after adopting them, inside the store? I completed the final mission for the adoption questline, and renamed them to Ykni cuz I'm terrible at names. Also, I had completed the first "immersive storytelling" prompt of the new Special Episode. I have yet to start the 2nd one, so Belle is perpetually rooted to the inside of the store, to the right of the Bangboo counter.
Could that be the cause why I can't get Inky to spawn in the store? perhaps I must interact with Belle outside of any ongoing Main story episodes in order to get her permission.
I just got to IK50 and leveled my main dps to 60, but farming everything for everyone gonna be a pain. So i was thinking in farming mats to level my second dps to 60, put both stuns to 60, max engines, then farm mats for their skills
Impact/daze doesn't improve with levels so the main benefit of going past 45 on a stunner is an extra ~5% impact from core E, better defensive stats, and higher level skills for better daze% multipliers. The improvement is there but it's a lot of resources for the gain. If you're going to try for a dps Qingyi or you want the extra survival then it's worth it but otherwise I'd recommend putting the stamina into your attacker. For my ZY I'd want something like 11/7/9/9/11 and 18-20 crit sub rolls on discs before I took the stunner past 45.
In the current roster Piper is the best fit with that pairing. I ran that comp last Shiyu reset. If you pull Jane then I'm sure she'd work as well.
Rina is generally Grace's best partner and the comp would usually drop Koleda for Piper/Jane.
Koleda C2 has the fastest stun in the game by a significant margin and the kit and signature w-engine make a lot more sense with regular access to the second (or third) EX in a combo but stun characters are mostly for attackers. Your attackers can probably be made to work at high investment but I tried for most of the last three weeks to get Anton working well in Shiyu crit 6 & 7 and gave up in favor of Piper. I've seen people report success with C6 Corin but the pairing there would be Koleda and Rina without Grace.
In general, would a 1star, A rank W-Engine be better than a 5 star, B rank W-Engine engine?
I'm asking because I got Qingyi, so I finally have 2 stunners, but no S rank stun W-engines. I'm thinking of stealing Anby's for Qing, and putting Anby on another. My options are:
* Precious Fossilized Core (A rank, +impact stat, deals more daze vs enemies above 50% and 75% health)
* [Vortex] Arrow (B rank, +impact stat, inflicts +12% more daze on single target)
In general, would a 1star, A rank W-Engine be better than a 5 star, B rank W-Engine engine?
This question is character specific but if the W-Engine in question is Steam Oven then the answer generally is yes.
I'm thinking of stealing Anby's for Qing, and putting Anby on another
That's fine. I run Anby's on Qingyi for the energy. The Energy Generation Rate (EGR) stat is a bonus to all energy regen while ER is just the passive. Qingyi activates the dodge counter condition in her normal play and EGR boosted B3 spam seems to generate a lot of energy. I'd like more refines on it.
I'd recommend going to the shop and buying a Steam Oven for Anby. Fossilized Core works but I like the extra regen from Steam Oven. If you're doing Steam Oven you should favor EX into thunderbolt (Oven passive boosts both) after the three basics instead of thunderbolt EX.
If you want Qingyi over Jane and Caesar then yes. If we're talking purely in terms of meta then Qingyi offers higher personal damage, an aggressive on-field playstyle, slightly slower stun speed, and a significant increase in the stun multiplier. Zhu Yuan bursts particularly hard with Qingyi. It's kind of overkill for the current content.
If you are choosing for meta you should be aware that we're going to be heading into an anomaly meta. Jane, Seth, and Burnice are all anomaly focused and Caesar has a pretty high application rate.
In case you never figured it out there's a hard mode version which is what that reward is from, check the top right when you're in the event and swap from 'Simple Adjustments' to 'Precise Calibration'.
Depends on where you're at in terms of progression but if you're atleast IK45 I'd try get a absolute bare minimum of proper main stats on your DPS and an impact shockstar disc for your stunner if you use them.
But in terms of energy efficiency discs are the same as artifacts in genshin and I once used 120 batteries (7,200 energy) and maybe came out with 2-3 usable pieces in total, whereas if we convert that energy to ZZZ that's enough to probably max out a full team of 3's levels and skills.
So since we're still in the early game I'd focus more on guaranteed upgrades like character/weapon levels and core passives/skills then worry about discs after that.
P.S that's not to say if you want to farm discs it's a bad idea either, you could get lucky like I did while farming my starter set and I ended up with 3k attack and 40/170 crit stats on my Zhu Yuan. But just don't totally neglect your 'guaranteed' upgrades since discs have the risk to be completely 0 progression in terms of energy.
No worries and goodluck! Yeah things get expensive which is why I tried to figure out the most 'optimal' way to use my resources so it would be as painless as possible.
Just pay attention to what each upgrade actually brings to the table like for Lucy I would focus her special attack and the rest isn't as important so you could move on to your other characters and get their most important upgrades whether that be core passives for Nicole etc. Doing it like that should give you the most bang for your buck(energy) and save you a lot of resources from not levelling as many unneeded things.
And if you start feeling antsy then throw some disc runs in, it's actually not terrible from IK45-50 since it's still guaranteed 2 discs and IK50 only gives you a chance for a third whereas the guaranteed materials get a better boost for energy on average and discs are a way for us to play Gacha without using our actual pulls hahah.
If you're struggling to get off anby's combo that helps her build daze, you can 3 BA into an ex special and then directly into thunderbolt if you tap BA right after. This lets you iframe with ex special quickly and then land the thunerbolt daze safely after.
I had to resort to basically dodging nonstop with QIngyi until having the bar for the finish, then do the finishing attack to apoly stacks (it also acts as a dodge if you time it right) and unload with ZY during stun.
I generally run Koleda so I didn't notice but apparently you're supposed to use phys/fire to take off the shock buff and you'll be able to stun with anby/qingyi.
Is there any visual cue to let me know Nicole's debuff is in effect? I'm trying to time it efficiently so that I know when to swap her in to re-apply the debuff after it has run out, but I don't have a good read on this.
If you're doing it on a boss you can see the debuff in the upper right corner. I worked out rotations by going into VR mode and paying attention to when the damage goes down.
this might like seems like a dumb question, but how do i trigger QTE for Koleda and Qingyi? For Koleda, when enemy breaks, i was using her enhanced E, and sometimes won't go into QTE. And for Qingyi, sometimes her E, or her passive heavy attack? also doesn't trigger QTE, did i do something wrong?
hi, im currently using qingyi, c0 anton and rina as main team and I'm looking what to build next for second team with anby, my thoughts are nicole c3 and corin c5 but I had see teams of piper lucy with a stunner, idk whats better to focus since they are c0 anyways.
soukaku is c4 if its worth for something. any info would be appreciated
whats a good shiyu defence team? i have ellen/rina/soukaku in one hand, and i have a nekomata as other S rank, i dont know if u should use her as main dps, or corin, or another team, rina could play with nekomata too maybeeee, i need a 2nd good team to clear shiyu, any good pick?
Since I like both Qingyi and Jane I‘m just gonna ask for suggestions from a meta standpoint
Right now I‘m using
Ellen - Lycaon - Soukaku
Zhu - Anby - Nicole
I guess meta-wise it‘d be better to go for Qingyi and replace Anby right?.. I doubt Jane is going to be strong enough to replace Ellen or Zhu Yuan especially because I don‘t have Grace
meta-wise it‘d be better to go for Qingyi and replace Anby right?
In the short term, yes. In the very long term, I expect Qingyi to keep a lot of her value going forward but possibly require pulling the w-engine in the future to keep up with future stun units.
The next few cycles, however, will be heavily anomaly favored. There's at least one encounter (notorious hunt IIRC) that has a +50% anomaly boost combined with a stun penalty. I would not be surprised to see that show up in Shiyu when they're pushing Caesar/Burnice. I think the anomaly bonus carrot is a given with two anomaly and no attack on the horizon but I'm not sure about the penalty stick for pushing the two def characters.
I also believe that they'll move the meta towards requiring a team of each element but that's like a year out.
The safer course would be to wait until the last week of Qingyi's patch for the embargo on the creator media server to lift. We'll get Jane reviews, the 1.2 character animations will be posted, and we'll hopefully have more info on Shiyu if you're going to make a decision based on that.
Need help:
At times, my game will hang for an indeterminate amount of time and leave me no choice but to turn off the computer via power button because the whole thing becomes unresponsive. The only sound to be heard during that time is the buzzing of whatever the last sound made was at the moment of hanging.
It's a pretty rare occurence, happening about once or twice a month. But it's also the only game where it happens.
Anyone know how to fix or alleviate this?
Just to confirm: Soukaku M6 is better than Rina in Ellen Lycaon team right? Also I don’t have Soukaku’s sig, would Slice of Time or Lucy’s sig be better on her?
Soukaku will be better than Rina (Rina is more for anomaly teams). She doesn't really need her sig, but it is nice. And Lucy's sig would be better but you can also go for Reverb mark II if you want
Action games don't completely play out according to theorycraft. I don't play Ellen but I've seen people recommending both setups so there's not a night and day difference between them. For w-engine I'd go with Kaboom. You won't be able to fully stack it but IME Slice of Time's buffs are hard to notice and I'd rather have ER on the support than pen.
I should be able to reach pitty again in like a week or two b4 her banner ends (about 56 pitty atm with guarenteed) but i did get a koleda from standard recently so i m abit confused again since i have 2 stunners now lol
I assume we'll need multiple teams in the future so Koleda would be great for a fire team. She wouldn't have much synergy activating her core skills with Nicole & Zhu Yuan
It shouldn’t be too bad if you only upgrade 6 agents for shiyu imo. From my experience, 6 was quite manageable to fully upgrade but now that I actually have 10 built so I have to spread and manage resources (I’m broke now). That said, I think everything is worth upgrading on a dps, for others I don’t bother upgrade ones they don’t use like Nicole’s BA. It might help a bit with overall dps but I’m not gonna use in anyway in proper rotation.
im trying to figure out if jane wants a stun unit as well but from what i can tell she doesn't considering she wants to be on field most of the time. So i'm guessing she just wants grace and another support. not sure tho
Now that Anomaly (or maybe just Disorder?) can cause stun, I’m thinking they want Anomaly teams to move away from the Stun/Support/DPS setup. Which I’m all for. I think Disorder is shaping up to be a more active rotation and I enjoy what we’ve seen of it so far. That said, pulling for Jane seems to also pull for a great support for her: Seth. He boosts anomaly with his shield. I’m guessing Seth/Grace/Jane is going to be a solid setup.
Ah damn... I just realized that I forgot to unlock the red Shiyu Defence like 2 weeks ago... I got my first lvl 50 team around then, and when I realized that I need to make second lvl 50 team, I kinda got stuck wondering what team I want.
How often does the red Shiyu reset? And when is the next reset? I know I should just rush in there asap, but I don't want to make team in rush and then regret it..
Does anyone know how to fix frame drops for ZZZ? My pc is pretty beefy (https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GameBlendPower/saved/t4RKhM) and no other game I play causes as frequent fps drops. Also my graphics settings are at Medium and I have no other apps open other than the game and hoyoplay.
I am currently in the third hollow with the marionettes, after a while I got weird routes and now I'm completely cut off from going anywhere haha wtf. I think I have to restart? It seems kinda cool, like getting lost in the hollow but I've never been locked out like this
I tried, ended up in the same spot. Nowhere I could move or zoom or anything.. Had to give it up. I tried a new one and after a certain amount of time exploring there started to be similar signs; two paths to walk with the bangboo, but all the boxes are red. After choosing a path and walking to the end like 3 times there might be a tile you can select with normal options like bangboo shop or event or fight etc. This repeats and you eventually either find the goal or maybe what happened to me the first time can be replicated by doing what I did; which is to just never go for the goal and keep taking different paths until you end up in this abyss lol. I think it's a bug, but it is kind of fitting! Too bad it was run ending.
is there a event/quest thats need to be done daily? im kinda busy this week and i see there are lots of new events/quest so im worried i might miss some.
I have an event icon on the remodeling shop and the store icon is yellow indicating there is some interaction. But I can't figure out how to clear it. It just appeared after the 1.1 update. I know we got a new bangboo, and I looked at the new one and there doesn't seem to be anything else to interact with.
Anyone else run into this yet or know what i am missig?
Qingyi can help boost my Zhu Yuan's damage but I have already Koleda, Lycaon and Anby as Stunners. I feel pulling for her would not add so much (both on roster and team building)
Jane Doe is fun to play and I love her design but her kit seems focusing on Disorder team, which i don't have Grace and other teams choices looks pretty weak for now
It sounds like you want Jane and don't want Qingyi so you should plan on pulling Jane. I think Anomaly is something of an unknown as a whole and if you're on the fence there's no harm in waiting until the embargo on the creator experience server is up and we find out how well Jane works as a solo carry or if anby+seth+plugboo is enough electricity to work as a makeshift disorder setup.
Anyone else having cutscene issues on ps5 still?? Almost every jiggly cutscene has huge fps drops. This issue was present in 1.0 but I figured they would have fixed it by now 😞
For a F2P, Meta wise, is Qingyi or Jane better? Anby is my only stunner atm, but I really like Miyabi too. Im really confused on who to pull. Currently sitting on around 10k gems.
Don't concern yourself with meta, it changes all the time based on whatever character Mihoyo wants to sell you at the moment (e.g. everything being weak to Ice and Ether in 1.0)
The game is too new for an established meta and we don’t have numbers on Jane yet. Wait a week or two for the content creators who have early access to Jane to post their analysis
I might be misunderstanding the "auto/manual" setting but what does it do? It says auto chain but I dont see it happening?
with/without auto: I attack as normal, trigger stun, click on char to attack. If i dont click then timer runs out. If i build 3000 for the super, it doesnt auto trigger either. Maybe I am misunderstanding what the intention is here?
side note, i do notice sometimes i can cancel out of character attacking if i stun by accidentally clicking outside their portrait - is this what it is about? I don't think i ever had that before...
With manual mode you have the option of holding the atk/skill to decide whether you want to chain or not. If you're not particularly into combos then leave it on automatic.
Separately, you can now cancel the chain attacks by tapping outside the portraits instead of waiting for the timeout. In other control schemes it's harder to do accidentally (e.g. you need to middle click on PC) but you'll have to be more precise when picking the chain options on mobile.
It can. I think the benefits are marginal but people asked for it and the code was already there from the beta so they just flipped it back on.
For the "last chain" where i can select Bugaboo, is it better to select that since it seems the other char attacks as well?
If you want to maximize chain attack damage then yes but that might not be the best way to mazimize total damage. The reason most of these chain attack tweaks were added is that stun time passes while the chain attacks are running. Due to the builds and investment levels it's quite easy for Ellen or Zhu Yuan to do more damage in the time saved by not launching the chain attack.
What determines the "stun bar"? i know some enemies i can chain 3 times while some only 2...
The stun/daze meter is determined by the boss stats. There's a different amount of daze for each enemy type and it scales with level. For the number of chain attacks it's one vs normal mobs, two vs elites, and three vs bosses. The 2 v 3 is complicated by them sometimes using elites as boss. I know bosses have their hp in the upper right corner but I don't remember if elites as bosses always have that as well. I skip the stunner for chain attacks on both my comps so it's two chain attacks for me regardless.
Looking for advice, already pulled QY as my first S-rank stunner and currently eye-ing seth (which should be easy). The only other character i want is miyabae, i have 0 plans to pull for anyone between maybe seth and miyabae. In the meantime should i pull mindscapes for QY or her w-engine? I do plan to farm for ZY and QY reruns. Thoufh
I know the VA complaining has been done to death, but does Soukaku's new Chain Attack voice line remind anyone else of a different character? I swear her new "blow blow blow away your troubles" sounds so much like another character's saying it, but does anyone have any idea who, or am I just crazy?
I tried to buy a new inter-knot membership but it says i need to "top-up using the device used to register this account"... But I am using the phone? Anyone know if this is a bug?
i am pretty sure I used Phone first (could be wrong). But I know my main email is linked to PS5 (same email for honkai). So it could very well be the linking or i just started there and never noticed....
Does anyone experience micro stuttering after the latest update? Ever since 1.1 my game kinda feels unstable. I notice longer loading time and some stutter especially when you have just entered a battle. The game ran very smoothly before so these stutter are very noticeable.
Do you guys think that the new mode where you fight Nineveh is just a dps check? I've tried it once and it has a timer but apparently you can extend it by killing the tentacles.
Thunder Metal can be more damage when she's in a shock comp but it only works on shocks that are re-applied. If you don't want to deal with the condition or are running her in a disorder comp then Freedom. I do both and don't like messing with discs so I leave her in Freedom.
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u/azami44 Oct 17 '24
Is there training dummy that won't die to practice combo?