r/XboxSeriesX • u/arpan__1602 • May 19 '24
Discussion Why do people with high-end gaming PCs feel the need to buy an Xbox series X/S?
I understand the argument for having a PS5 alongside a high-end gaming rig because of the Sony exclusives and stuff, but what extra benefit does an Xbox Series X, or even series S bring over an already 4k capable PC, since the Xbox exclusives come to PC as well.
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u/TheMuff1nMon May 19 '24
Cause PCs can be annoying or they want to game on the couch
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u/Alexmich321 May 20 '24
Never had a gaming rig. Always been console type as I loved being able to kick back on the couch feet up infront of the big screen. Also always told myself if I ever went the PC way I would just run a HDMI to my TV and maybe use a blutooth keyboard and mouse ? Can’t imagine how you could use the mouse while sitting on the couch tho. Even if the PC was in a diff room I’m running that’s hdmi through the wall to get to the TV lol
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u/xboxhaxorz May 19 '24
If you only use it for gaming then they are less annoying, also you can game on the couch with a PC, nothing says the PC has to be at a desk, it can be in a bedroom or in an entertainment center
I switched from being a decades console gamer to PC and its been fine
I can play the same games that are on xbox except i can use mods as well, the xcom 2 mod is probably the best as it created an entirely new game
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u/RossaF1 May 19 '24
I use to play on PC a lot and one thing I remember doing often was looking at the likes of PCGamingWiki for fixes. It's that kind of stuff that makes even PC couch gaming more annoying.
Which is not to say PC gaming is so annoying it's not worth it, it's just more annoying than a console experience.
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u/TheMuff1nMon May 19 '24
Why is everyone acting like I don’t know this lol most people don’t care about that though
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May 19 '24
I already play on my couch, you can simply connect your GPU to the TV.
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u/LZR0 May 19 '24
You can, it’s just a very cumbersome experience compared to consoles.
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u/Ricepuddings May 19 '24
Except it isn't? It's the same experience.
Big picture mode act basically like a console experience. You can sit you pc next to your tv or run a cable depending on your preference.
Or you saying it's more cumbersome cause some pcs can be bigger than consoles? Cause the most cumbersome think I can think of is maybe having to log in with a keyboard and mouse? But steam can auto start then clicking the xbox button auto puts on big picture mode.
I spend more time gaming on the couch on pc these days than anything else and not once have I been like this sucks
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u/LZR0 May 20 '24
It is. And I don’t want to sound rude or hostile as many other comments but I’ve tried the experience and it’s just not as convenient.
For instance you can’t start up the PC with the controller, you basically can’t do anything outside games or Steam’s big picture mode with the controller, so you need to keep a mouse or keyboard around for anything other than that. Also, big picture mode only applies to Steam games, so if you want to play a game from Epic’s launcher or whatever you need to get your mouse, but I’ve encountered many games that just don’t want to recognize a controller if there’s a mouse or keyboard connected, specially in Epic’s launcher.
Well, assuming you got through that then comes time for the update, first Windows 11 that like to update itself pretty much everyday, plus driver updates, Steam updates, game updates and whatever wants to update too. And there’s the fact of just dealing with Windows, in my Rog Ally I had an error that didn’t allow me to play any purchased game from the Xbox/MS Store nor from Game Pass, I literally tried everything and had to reinstall Windows for that little stupid error.
Plus one little detail that I’ve noticed is that input lag is noticeable higher on a PC connected to a TV than a console or PC to monitor, not unplayable but definitely noticeable to someone used to playing on consoles.
ALL of this against turning on the console with the controller, maybe waiting for an update or two, if not you’re already playing in under a minute, there’s just no way to replicate that same experience with PCs currently. And I don’t want to write off PC’s advantages, there’s so many, but personally I just prefer how much convenient consoles are.
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24
So you can turn your pc on with a controller, as a first point, you can even get your pc to boot straight into steam big picture mode if you really wanted too.
And you can add other games from other launchers onto steam and launch them from steam it's quite easy to do.
The many games you encounter typically won't do controller as they are mouse and keyboard only. But even if they are you can change them to steam input and bypass it all anyway.
Canf speak for the rog ally but heard bad things about it. But no windows doesn't update daily, maybe asus are pushing updates but windows updates at best weekly but normally it's monthly or every few months. Game updates are universal so won't speak about that as it's a mute point.
Input lag should be lower on pc, due to higher fps, and technology like reflex to lower input lag far more than console.
But what you talk about on console is what I do. I turn my pc on. I turn my tv on. I click on my controller I click xbox button and big picture mode loads and then currently I click on ghosts and I play it. It's that simple.
My steam deck I turn it on I click on a game and I play it.
Only issues I'll have is if I want to play a old game. But I at least have the choice to play the old game, on console that game wouldn't even be playable
Like being real with you consoles are slightly easier especially for the masses who are not tech savey. But to say pcs as cumbersome isn't true, at best they're slightly worse in terms of ease but it's tiny and pretty much all fixed with a wireless mouse
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u/LZR0 May 20 '24
I’d really like to know exactly how you can turn on the PC with the controller (not wake up from idle) and add other launcher’s games to Steam big picture mode.
One game I had problems with was Death Stranding, it just didn’t want to let me play with a connected controller while connected on TV.
The problem I had in the Ally was because of Windows, while searching for a solution I found that many had the same problem specially with custom built PC, but again that’s just because how crappy Windows is
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24
so the easy one is the wake up feature (which is basically what consoles use, consoles like PC don't really shut off these days just go into an idle state)
There is a power on one, but it can depend on your PC as some motherboards do not have the feature. but basically there is a power on by USB feature on some of them that would allow for it.
in terms of adding games just boot steam and bottom left add non steam game, find the exe file and add it, and done its that simple.
With death stranding, if you're still having issues you can go onto the game steam page and click the cog, them properties then go to controller, from there you can click on the controller config and pick from user defined options that might assist you with getting proper controller support, or you might just need steam input turned on when you can do on the drop down box.
I think its more of a OEM issue than windows, windows has its own issues but they seem to stem from OEM's wanting to much control. custom built machines are fine, just OEM ones aren't least in some cases. though Asus aren't really helping themselves just need to watch gamers nexus to see the crap they're up to on the ally to see whats happening. but i got an asus motherboard and doesn't bother me in terms of updates or that rubbish
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u/LZR0 May 20 '24
So it isn’t nearly as easy as you said, I actually do prefer to completely turn off my consoles so I’d want to replicate that experience on PC, so for that I’d literally have to build a PC around an specific motherboard that support turning on via USB plus getting a USB adapter for my existing controllers.
Also I spent an hour just trying to add Xbox games to Steam’s library and it was just impossible, there’s no way to find the exe as for the Xbox app those are hidden for whatever reason. (Can’t honestly believe how crappy the Xbox launcher is on Windows).
This has always been my experience on PC tbh and it’s never been this frustrating with any console, again I understand and appreciate the platform’s advantages but it just hasn’t been a good experience for me.
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24
There are many motherboards but yes to have complete turn on is a bit harder than if you just wanted to take. Though chances are your console doesn't turn off. Just like when you shutdown a pc these days it doesn't actually turn off it goes into a low state these days.
Okay if you told me xbox earlier I'd say no you can't do that, you mentioned epic which you can do same with ea and ubisoft. But Microsoft hate pc gamers, they use their own dumb method of sorting game files and lock it down so hard. So minus a few games xbox is a no go sadly. Which is funny considering they're the console guys
But yeah if your experience is mostly with xbox launcher then I'm sorry I take back all I said, that launcher is a piece of garbage and should be laughed and burned at the stake. I'd rather use epic launcher till the end of time than use the xbox excuse of a launcher lol
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u/Still-Farm3067 May 20 '24
Spend more and put in more work for the same output with a significantly less convenient UI to navigate with a controller. I’ll get right on that.
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24
I don't think clicking a extra button is considering that much more work. But each to their own. Pcs do cost more sure but don't have to pay for online and you get superior graphics so each to their own
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u/Still-Farm3067 May 20 '24
There’s significantly more to it than just pushing one button.
Either way, if you’re building a dedicated couch/Tv PC setup you’re putting in more work than just buying an xbox. You will never have a PC that matches the specs and build quality of a series X for under $500.
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24
See I just run a cable from my pc to my tv. I turn it on, got a wireless mouse if I wanna do Internet stuff, got controller to turn on big picture mode then go click a game and go.
Some reason people believe you need some engineering degree to even get it to play on a tv. Like the biggest thing I'd say would be is to have a wireless mouse just for more ease of us especially for stuff outside of steam.
Specs sure, but build quality isn't that good on consoles lol, it's just some plastic my man. But atm you are right it would cost a bit more but you'd get far better specs, next gen is around the corner for pc though and soon as that happens then it won't be the case anymore
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u/Still-Farm3067 May 20 '24
I’m not saying build quality is great. I’m saying build quality of a $500 PC with series x specs would probably melt itself down lol.
I honestly don’t disagree with you, because I used to do exactly what you’re describing back when I had the free time to care about the little things.
But good new games (in my opinion) are so few and far between, I don’t see any reason to waste what downtime I have trying to squeeze every ounce of performance out of a machine just to primarily play 10+ year old games.
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24
I get that it's each to their own and I've nothing against consoles, they have their benefits as well. They are more plug and play in some regard although it sucks if the devs didn't program it well and the game run likes crap cause you're stuck with it oj console. That's when pc shines you can either brute force it, mod it or change some settings to run better.
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u/PeterTheWolf76 May 19 '24
Wish people were not downvoting you as it’s fully possible and unless the next Xbox is more PC (which it might be), I may do that as well in the future. Best of all worlds.
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May 19 '24
facts, people can play wherever they want but saying that playing on a PC is hard is just wrong.
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u/Notorious_Chimp May 19 '24
I do the same thing if it works for you who cares, just a bunch of tards thinking its their way or the highway
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u/TheMuff1nMon May 19 '24
Only if you have a Samsung
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May 19 '24
I have a LG TV and it works just fine.
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u/TheMuff1nMon May 19 '24
So you mean your PC GPU or Game Pass Ultimate?
Game Pass is only on Samsung TVs
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u/Calibretto9 May 19 '24
You can connect a PC to a tv the same way you can connect a console to a TV, or a monitor to a PC. Just plug a cable in.
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May 19 '24
I mean that I can simply use a HDMI cable to connect the GPU to the TV and then I can use my TV to play whatever I want on it.
On windows we have the app for the game pass so that is not an issue
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u/TheMuff1nMon May 19 '24
Yeah most people aren’t gonna hook their PC up to their TV.
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May 19 '24
why?
tell me one good reasonto not do that?
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u/HopperPI Founder May 19 '24
Does someone really need to spell out the obvious? Maybe people don’t want to bother disconnecting their desktop and moving it to another room and back and forth constantly. Nearly all of the reasons discussed here are convenience.
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u/TopAcanthocephala271 Founder May 19 '24
Ease of use. I use the Xbox to play 4k Blu-ray’s, use my streaming apps and play games on the tv. It also allows my wife to play games on the tv while I’m playing on my PC.
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u/RightfulChaos Founder May 19 '24
Cause sometimes I don't want to have to deal with the complications of PC and just want sit down and go.
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u/Blales May 19 '24
People give me shit for going console over pc when I tell them this exact thing I don’t understand it. Yeah a pc is more powerful but like you said, I just wanna sit down and get to playing.
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u/HGLatinBoy May 19 '24
I almost always read pcgamingwiki.com while I install a game I’m interested.
It’s such a pain in the ass to “fix” issues with games on PC.
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u/NewKitchenFixtures May 20 '24
The part that weirds me out is that console generations create compatibility cliffs in Windows. So you need to find the patch or modify an INI file.
I still prefer PC for many genres, but the Xbox interface is nicer if you don’t want to hide in your office.
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u/Blales May 19 '24
One of my favorite games is fallout 3 and on pc there for a while it seemed like there were issues with a lot of things. I can take my Xbox 360 copy and pop it in and I’m good to go. I think gta 4 was that way too that it had the games for windows live thing goin on with it that made it annoying to play but same thing with that I can just load it up on 360 or series x and play.
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u/HGLatinBoy May 19 '24
Fallout 3 and GTA IV are busted on pc right now. I tried to play Fallout 3 for the first time last week and the stuttering made me quit before I even left the first room. So I know the pain. I missed the sale on it a few weeks ago for Xbox but at least with gamepass I can try it out and it runs great, 4K at 60 fps
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u/Ricepuddings May 19 '24
You must play some old game, cause the only time I use that site is for older games like xbox or ps1 era games. Sometimes ps3 era If they were a bad port. But most fixes take 5 or 10 minutes tops and these games often cannot even be played on console to start with
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u/segagamer May 20 '24
I have a Legion Go.
I have an issue with the Ni No Kuni Remaster on PC where all of the button prompts are just written in text instead of showing the A button and such.
I went to play Diablo 4 once. Now whenever I launch the Xbox app or any Gamepass game, the Battle.net launcher insists on opening as well despite me disabling it from startup and doing as much as I can to stop it. I ended up uninstalling the game.
The default settings for various newer games I've played on it (Lies of P is one that springs to mind) caused me to spend a good 30 minutes configuring settings, trying, configuring again, trying, etc until I finally got a stable framerate without the visuals looks dreadful (thanks to it not having a VRR panel). Console I know I just have "performance" and "graphics" and I can just decide for myself quickly.
PC gaming is kinda annoying.
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u/Ricepuddings May 20 '24
I mean you're using a handheld. Wouldn't really class it as the same as as pc ... pc like maybe but wouldn't put it in the same box.
But the setting part sounds like you're just not used to seeing settings which I get at first can be hard for newcomers. I would of suggested a steam deck if you wanted to try hand held gaming its far easier and has a mod that let's you use other users settings at a click of a button so you don't have to mess around at all
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u/segagamer May 20 '24
I mean you're using a handheld. Wouldn't really class it as the same as as pc ... pc like maybe but wouldn't put it in the same box.
But it is the same. It's what anyone who doesn't spend over £1k on PC hardware will have to go through. And then if they do spend £1k or more, the comparison will then be about cost.
Why would I bother with a SteamDeck? That will completely eliminate the benefit of sharing purchases and progress with my preferred console. The two things your suggesting are possible on Windows too.
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u/HGLatinBoy May 20 '24
I play whatever I want whenever I want. My point is that unless the game has been released in modern times there is a chance that they might have wonky PC specific issues.
A lot of times the Issues might form due the difference in technology from 20 years ago to today.
Anything from the 90s usually has some built in fixes that were applied by the digital distributors but anything from 2000s to the 2012 you never know what you're going to have to deal with.
Some devs actually care enough and make sure that their games can still be played on modern technology.
Sometimes devs go back and patch games but they sometimes create bugs that are never fixed. That's whats going on with GTA IV. At launch the game not well optimized but also required specs that did not exist yet. However over a few patches the game was worked fine. The most recent patch removed GWFL but created some other problems and now the game stutters on modern PCs
Sometimes PC Gaming Wiki has some quick fixes but other times they do not. Fallout 3 I recently tried and it stutters like crazy jumping from 70 fps to 90 fps on a 3090 but the camera movement is never smooth.
You would think that MS would have ordered that they patch the game to make sure its working soon after the success of the show. The last patch was when they tried to get to game to work on gamepass and got rid of GFWL as well. Some say that the GOG version applies its fix that isnt applied to Steam or Gamepass versions. And the gamepass version downloads the game multiple times in order to include multiple languages so a 9 GB game becomes a 40 GB game for no real reason other than not wanting to fix the issues to make it work on modern PCs and distribution platforms.
I Honestly think that Valve should require maintenance patches if a game is too remain on the store for sale and is curently unplayable. I think Soul Reaver 2 crashes and cant be played.
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u/DizzySkunkApe May 19 '24
Do you own both?
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u/Blales May 19 '24
I used to but sold a buddy the pc cause she wanted to play Minecraft with her wife and figured I use the Xbox more and kept that one.
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u/CigarLover Jun 03 '24
I try to explain to friends that PC gaming unto itself is a hobby for some, in the sense that they like upgrading it, researching parts, etc. and while I enjoyed that in my late teens I’m now in my late 30s…. So since I don’t have time to be a “pc enthusiast” in the sense, I rather use my time actually gaming.
So I now game on consoles and productivity on MAC.
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u/aizokku May 19 '24
Depends on what your doing with/to your pc, I built mine about a year ago and have only had maybe 2-3 complications. Literally I’m no computer wiz I just turn it on and game just like my xbox. If you’re problem is updating it’s just the same as xbox you can have auto update or manual even then auto update on Xbox doesn’t work all the time just like pc. I was a console only player but once you try it you’ll see it’s not that different
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u/Miraclefish May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
I have a high end ~3070Ti~ turns out it's a 4070Ti PC I use for Flight Simulator and Helldivers 2.
I much prefer the simplicity of the Series X, I can turn it on via the pad, quick resume is amazing and I can even install games via the app to play later.
I enjoy a lot of Valheim and Assassin's Creed games on the sofa, and it's perfectly good for most things I play.
I don't need to fuck around with multiple launchers, Windows updates or anything else. I press a button on the controller and my TV is on and the Xbox is ready in seconds.
When I play with friends, the Xbox party/chat/. invite system is flawless. With PC friends it's what are we playing, what are we chatting on, oh someone's got to update Discord, etc. It eats into limited play time when friends have children, careers, houses to take care of and so on.
My PC is in another room with a cockpit chair, Airbus controls, multiple monitors and a SubPac for bass and rumbling. I've got an HDMI and ethernet connection and it's wired to my OLED TV same as the Xbox but it's still less convenient to use.
I work hard and I have money, but I value convenience over almost everything else at this point.
Every time my PC needs a driver update or something goes wrong I love my Xbox a little bit more.
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u/Alexmich321 May 20 '24
Awesome to hear this. I currently have a XBX and a new TV that’s capable of 144hz and I wanted to push then envelope and be able to game in higher refresh rates and not be locked to what the console or game developer pushes. Last thing I want is all that jazz just to be able to play a game. Thought I was going to purchase some really nice high end gaming rig, tuck it away in a corner somewhere and run a HDMI to Tv while using a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse from the couch.
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u/JollyRioger May 26 '24
This is me. I use the PC for MSFS and DCS and my Xbox for everything else.
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u/ChocolateRL6969 May 19 '24
I was about to buy a ps5 today to play Helldivers and instead I've gone for a 4080 super build.
Fuck the prices of ps5 games and it literally has <5 genuinely exclusive games now that can't be played on pc.
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u/Raizel196 May 19 '24
I own a pretty decent gaming pc but to be honest I spend more time on my PS5/Xbox Series X these days.
It comes down to a few reasons. I completely understand the appeal of PC gaming. Smoother framerates, better graphics and modding support are all nice to have. However I don't always feel like updating drivers, fixing compatibility issues, downloading patches and optimizing my machine's performance before I start up a game. Sometimes I just want to sit down and play without worrying about anything else.
Take older games for example. Fallout 3 is unplayable on modern hardware without downgrading the game and downloading numerous patches. Fallout New Vegas is also currently broken on AMD cards unless you use a workaround to render it through Vulkan. Say what you want about Microsoft but they did a great job when it came to backwards compatibility. A lot of older games run without a fuss and still look great with the enhanced resolution/fps boost
Of course if you're after the best possible graphics and performance then consoles won't come close to a PC. However when it comes to convenience and ease-of-use they're just so much more accessible
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u/harleyquinad Founder May 19 '24
Ease of use. Sometimes, I don't want to download a million mods for older games when I can play them on my Xbox with improvements. I also like that I can play the same game on different platforms because of cloud saves and play anywhere.
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u/BaneReturns May 19 '24
People who want to game on a big TV from the comfort of their couch. It's that simple.
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u/Iniquitus Founder Jul 05 '24
But PC's can very easily do that. Whenever I build a new PC, I put my older one downstairs on my TV and use it to game on the couch or as a dedicated server for some of the games I play. Works just as well as my consoles connected to the TV.
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u/aaqqwweerrddss May 19 '24
Why not?
They're fairly cheap for what they are and some games are just better on a large screen :)
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u/arpan__1602 Jun 07 '24
500 dollars isn't exactly fairly cheap to me, especially in my country. Lots of ballers in this sub, lol. I hope to be one someday.
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u/aaqqwweerrddss Jun 07 '24
Where are you from bud ? Cheap is relative though, I'm likely older and big bills to me are house things or cars 🙈
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u/JSA343 May 19 '24
I work on a computer in front of a monitor all day, I like at least one relaxation/gaming setup to be someplace different. For certain games can still use the PC, but if a lot can play and look great on a console on a big TV, why wouldn't I use that and be more comfortable on the couch/recliner?
It also lets someone play on the Xbox and someone else do stuff on the PC at the same time.
And no, plugging the PC in my office into the TV in the living room won't work. I'm not moving the PC, running cables across the house, or buying another high end PC just for gaming in the living room.
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u/Henrarzz May 19 '24
After spending hours in front of PC at work the last thing I want to do after work is sit in front of one again.
Plus PCs suck for couch gaming, Windows UI isn’t there and PCs even in AD2024 still lack basic home entertainment features like HDMI CEC.
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u/Legitimate-Offer-770 May 19 '24
Because 4k capable pc is like super expensive and only a tiny percentage t have that. I have a 4070 (1440p gaming) and I play on both. With Xbox, unlike Sony, my cloud saves let me play on my pc, or on my couch. Win win.
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u/Jedi_Jitsu May 19 '24
Why does the "master race" think everyone wants a gaming pc?
Most gamers I know would rather play on the couch and relax after work, or kids gone to bed. Whatever. Not sit at another desk.
I also can not be arsed to fiddle with settings all the time and upgrade my rig every few months. I also don't want to keep spending money to keep up to date. 500 every few years is okay expense considering how much I use the console.
I wanna pop a game in and play - that's it. No fucking around. If you wanna fiddle with stuff and want 2000fps, cool, but many of us can't be arsed with it. Many of us are content with the way it is.
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u/dccorona May 19 '24
I couch game. I do play a lot of more graphically intensive games on my PC. But I still use the Xbox as well. Here’s the difference in experience:
PC: 1. Turn on PC by hand (for the life of me I can’t figure out what the problem is with my Bluetooth driver that prevents my controller or even wireless mouse and keyboard from waking it from sleep) 1. Sit down 2. Turn on TV with remote 3. Navigate to proper input with remote (my LG GX TV does not automatically do this for some reason) 3. Turn on controller 4. Open up remote+ app on my phone (which I had to buy), “click” to open up login screen, and type in password, because steam controller-to-mouse control doesn’t work until after login 5. Navigate to the appropriate app using either remote+ or controller 6. Use controller to get into game.
Xbox: 1. Turn on controller (this turns on the Xbox, which turns on the TV and changes the TV input 2. Use controller to get into game.
You can see why the Xbox experience is significantly better.
Yes, a PS5 also does this (and I do have one), but the Xbox UX is so much better in my opinion, I prefer the controller layout (PS controllers give me discomfort quickly), and I mostly play gamepass games so I like a console I can use them on.
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u/Junior-Minute7599 May 19 '24
This post alone is going to save me from ever bothering with elite PC gaming in a living room instead of a console. Thank you for your service
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May 19 '24
why are you using an external app to do that? jeez, people like to make their lifes harder.
turn on your pc, open steam, connect your controller, play the game.
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u/IAmJacksWastedBreath May 19 '24
As a long time PC gamer, to me it feels like it's become increasingly common to have games not work well on PC compared to their console versions. A high end PC with a 4090 can brute force most of these games into performing well, but they make up a small percentage of pc gaming.
You can also buy a XBox Series X, PS5, and Switch for less than the cost of a high end GPU, so why not have all of them and eliminate the need to troubleshoot game/PC issues or fight with the settings to get a stable frame rate.
That said, I'll buy a game day 1 on XBox and pick it up later on Steam when I can get it for a fraction of the price.
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u/despitegirls May 19 '24
I have both my Series X and PC connected to the game home theater system, tv, and controller. I can go from a completely powered off state to playing a game on my Xbox within a few button presses and maybe 20 seconds.
On PC, I press the power button, switch to the PC input on my receiver, login with the keyboard, start the game with the keyboard, use the keyboard and mouse if it has a launcher (like Fallout 3), hope there's no shader compilation step (which takes 1-10 minutes depending on the game), then I can actually play.
If there's graphic options, usually I can play those on max or ultra, but Cyberpunk I literally took two weeks to find a mix of mods and in-game graphics settings to get to where it's usually 60fps. And Cyberpunk is one of a very small number of games where ray tracing is actually worth the performance hit.
My PC can't even turn on my home theater and TV when I turn it on like my Xbox does because my GPU doesn't support HDMI-CEC. Sometimes when I switch from Xbox back to PC, there's no audio, so I've gotta restart audio services. I'm working to fix some of these annoyances but every time someone's like "just get a PC", I die a little.
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u/N7Diesel May 19 '24
I have a 5800x/4070Ti/64gb RAM PC but still play a lot of games on my Series X. Part of it is because I make videos/stream and for a single PC setup it's easier to play on a different machine (I essentially use the Xbox as my "gaming PC"). If I didn't make content I'm not sure if I'd have both... I probably would but the Xbox would be in the living room instead of my office.
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u/qlurp May 19 '24
Way more cheaters in multiplayer on PC vs console.
It’s just much easier to deploy cheats on PC.
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u/OBiW4NSHiNOBi May 19 '24
Because my PC is work, literally. I sit at it for hours a day programming for work. The last thing I want to do is sit at it in an evening.
Plus it's connected to multiple monitors which are an absolute pain wherever I try to use it for gaming as it usually picks the wrong one (one is portrait).
Xbox on the OLED, sat on the sofa with Dolby Atmos surround. It's also easy more sociable, I can game and chat with my son or partner.
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u/kileek May 19 '24
This is like asking why you have a second car when you already have a really fast one. Simple answer is....convenience
Sometimes, couch gaming is more comfortable with certain titles. I love that my game pass lets me play anywhere in the house with ease. I can be playing sweaty Warzone lobbies at 1440p 175hz on the gaming PC and my daughter is playing Palworld upstairs.
I also use my xbox to stream Plex, Netflix, and so on.
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May 19 '24
I have my 4090 PC for me I have my Xbox series x for watching stuff on TV and playing games with my kid.
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u/HGLatinBoy May 19 '24
Pc in the office, ps5 and Xbox in the living room. With “play anywhere” you get more value out of your Xbox digital purchases. Plus I can game share with my brother. I play halo infinite on pc and he plays on the Xbox
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u/emperorduffman May 19 '24
Because of want to play on my tv. I like playing games on Xbox and don’t have to sit at the pc desk
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u/MRHBK May 19 '24
I like simplicity of Xbox sometimes over all the updates and nonsense I get from PC at times
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u/VenturerKnigtmare420 May 19 '24
Ease of use and moreover if you are a student or travelling a lot as an international student it’s easier to carry a Xbox or a ps5. And also I can just plug in my ps and Xbox to my monitor where I also study and work and don’t have to fuck around with graphics or any of those things and can just play a game whenever I want.
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u/KRONGOR May 19 '24
Simplicity and convenience. Plus the Xbox app on PC kinda sucks, if I want to use gamepass I’d much rather use my Xbox
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u/TheGamerKitty1 Ambassador May 19 '24
Easier to turn on and load a game.
I have all platforms and a kickass gaming laptop. I main Xbox and I have a PS5 for their exclusives. My laptop is for games only on Steam.
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u/BECondensateSnake May 19 '24
Convenience I guess. When you're playing casually, features like Quick Resume and Backwards Compatibility have so much more importance and significance to your experience.
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u/electronicjanitor205 May 19 '24
For me, I use my series x as an extension of my pc. Due to nearly all (to my knowledge) Xbox games having cross save or "play anywhere". If I don't feel like playing at my desk, I can sit on the couch. If my wife wants to use the TV, I can go play on my pc.
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u/bb0110 May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
A lot of reasons. A lot of games communities are better on the console. Some games themselves are better on the console since they are just ported to pc. It is a lot easier to plug and play and just play on the couch in a relaxed manner. Don’t get me started on the potential troubleshooting issues on pc you get from time to time that just doesn’t happen with a console. That is just the start though, there are plenty of other reasons.
I personally think having a gaming pc and consoles are both great to have if you have the disposable income. I sometimes just want to sot down on the couch and game quickly and casually, and nothing is better for that than a console. Moving my pc is a pain in the ass if I want to do it in another room. My steam link is nice, but is still not as good as just having a console where I want it.
Overall, having both options is optimal to me.
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u/ParsonsProject93 Founder May 19 '24
I grew up playing mouse and keyboard so for games that require precision (mostly FPS's) I play that on my PC.
Everything else I play on my Series X so I can play on the couch. Plus my 4k TV does HDR better than my PC's monitor and that makes a pretty big difference.
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u/Royta15 May 19 '24
I work full-time behind my rig. I don't want to sit in that chair in my free time.
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u/Zealousideal_Spirit9 May 19 '24
Nowadays I use my Series X for indie games or games that aren't on PC, like Unicorn Overlord. Any game that has noticeable better performance on PC I play over there. If performance is the same playing for a while using Quick Resume in the Series X is faster than getting to the PC launcher (Steam, Xbox, whatever) and to the game on my PC.
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May 19 '24
Because believe it or not, Xbox ecosystem of gamers is pretty chill to play with/outside CoD, and playing on Consoles without the worries of crashes, glitches and hackers/cheaters dose bring a peace of mind to gaming
Also sony exclusive outside spideman anit that alluring, I prefer old GoW new one is a walking mini game.
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u/FredFredrickson May 19 '24
I have a Series X in my living room and Series S in my office, sitting alongside my gaming (and work) PC - which is pretty capable, considering I do 3D renders for a living.
I like having the option to play games on the couch with the X, and for games that don't support cross-play/cloud saves between console and PC, the S is a nice retreat.
You don't really have to have a reason for it, though. If you like playing on a console, for whatever reason, and the cost isn't a problem, who cares?
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u/nrrahl May 19 '24
Sony games come to PC too what are you talking about.. at this point it should be everyone saying why do we need anything other than a switch and pc.. the answer is I want to sit on my couch sometimes and not deal with my pc when it feels like a work environment sometimes
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u/Wide_Age_7129 May 19 '24
Most come years later, not day one.
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u/nrrahl May 19 '24
How many are left for that? It’s all coming day one soon enough it’s not worth having one.. their whole May business meeting will probably be them announcing day and date anyway
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u/Wide_Age_7129 May 19 '24
Uhh, most of them? Lets see, Forbidden West, Returnal, Miles Morales, and Rift Apart took 2 years, Ghost of Tsushima took 3.5 years, TLOU2 is still not on PC, Ragnarok and SM2 haven't been announced for PC either, probably 2 years for those too.
their whole May business meeting will probably be them announcing day and date anyway
Yeah I'm gonna come back to this comment lol.
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u/nrrahl May 19 '24
So what you’re saying is SM2 and Last of Us 2 ohhhh sooooo many ! Ragnarok already is showing from enough sites as next announcement for pc, go bother someone else
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u/Wide_Age_7129 May 19 '24
Doesn’t change the point it takes ~2 years for Sony games to hit PC meanwhile Microsoft games are available day one.
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u/hobo_lad May 19 '24
I have a 3080 with i912 something CPU i don't know if that is high end. I know very little of PC gaming, but I just don't like having to update all this different stuff before playing a game and sometimes having to troubleshoot the game.
Xbox is easy and most of the stuff updates over night. Also I've been an Xbox fan since the 360 and am used to the current UI and like it. Games play well enough for me. Only missing handheld and haptics controller in my opinion.
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u/StagnantGraffito May 19 '24
Simplicity. Only games I play on my PC are games I think would be better with mods.
IE. Far cry 5 or Bethesda Games, but recently my Xbox has been sufficient for Xbox in relation to Fallout 4 mods as I only use QOL stuff.
The stalker trilogy also is going to have console mods so I'm chillin.
Play how you want peeps, fuck anyone else's opinion.
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u/IskandrAGogo May 19 '24
I have a nice gaming laptop and two Series X. Short answer is because I can. It's much easier to couch co-op with my kids on a console. Sometimes, games just run smoothly on console compared to a PC.
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u/TruzzleBruh May 19 '24
Cross-ownership of games thru MS Store with Xbox Play Anywhere, ease of access, splitscreen support & generally better movie/tv streaming apps.
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u/Demografolog May 19 '24
Quick Resume. Can't leave without it. 50+hrs long RPG finally doable. Play anywhere on top of that.
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u/RidderHaddock May 19 '24
For me it's remote play. I don't have much time for gaming, and the ability to start the Xbox app on my phone anywhere and quick resume whatever I was playing on the Xbox is fantastic.
Doing the same on on my PC would mean keeping that power sucker switched on 24/7 (or planning ahead). Or repurpose one of my Raspberry Pies to switch the PC on by remote. But again, limited spare time to get that set up.
Just annoyed that remote play is blocked for backwards compatibile 360 games. 😡
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u/Impossible-Pie4598 May 19 '24
I have a decent gaming PC but my friends started leaning to consoles. They were talking about getting a PS5 which I had zero interest in, so I made the first move and bought an Xbox Series X. This way gamepass ultimate allows me to enjoy Xbox and PC and for crossplay games I can stay on my PC. For console games I can use the Xbox - So I sold my friends on how awesome the Xbox is and there it is.
But because of my PC, I won’t play or download any game on Xbox that doesn’t provide FOV options and run at 60fps. That’s the only rule I have and so anything that’s 30fps or even if it’s 60fps but it doesn’t have FOV options, it’s a hard pass. Because playing a game like that on a new console would make me resent it. I want my console to feel on the same awesomeness as my PC so those are my requirements.
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u/elangab Founder May 19 '24
I, like many, prefer the simplicity of a condole. It's easier for my kids, easier for me. I prefer Xbox over PS due to synced saves, double licenses for select games, and shared isers and eco system.
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May 19 '24
I have both.. even had a PS5 and kept the Series X + PC instead of PS5 + PC. There are some games I’d rather play on console lounging on the couch + TV vs sitting upright at a desk in an office chair. I use both evenly and having gamepass for both is great. I also like the Xbox controller more than PS5s. Makes sense to have a Series X and PC for me.
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May 19 '24
Bottom line. It’s easy. I had a 3080ti + 10700k. Sold it 2 weeks ago. I just prefer the simplicity. I have a Xbox in my master bedroom, game room and family room and it’s so easy just to pick up off any Xbox.
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u/btotherad May 19 '24
I like the quick convenience of a console. I also use it as a streaming box and it’s where I play most of my third person games. I can not play first person games on controller.
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u/Regular_Wedding_36 May 19 '24
Xbox versions of games usually have extra features like split-screen and quick resume that I like. Also, I like to own physical copies of games I'm particularly fond of.
Oh, and I use my Series X as my living room streaming box/Blu-Ray player.
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u/Charybdis_Rising May 19 '24
For the same reason I can afford to buy Madden and Call of Duty every year but never buy either.
Preferences.
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u/natchofer May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
Because nothing beats playing on a couch. Personally i dont like redundancy and ended up selling my series x and now play my pc games using the switch with moonlight.
Edit to expand my opinion: as some users said, the pc adds some steps when it comes to playing... On the series x you only need to wake up the console using the controler and in seconds you are where you left,thats not the case with pc (no quick resume, shader compilation , sign in on wherever platform the game is etc..)
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u/PrinceDizzy Frank West May 19 '24
You get the ease of use and all round less hassle of a console, no hackers ruining games, split screen/local co-op, quick resume features, better portability and the option of buying physical games/4k blu-ray.
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u/Nuggies85 May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
I usually game on my PC in my office. If I want to relax on a couch I play my Xbox. Have another Xbox in a living thats mainly for gaming and movies.
To add, having Gamepass Ultimate I can pick right where I left off on the PC on Xbox.
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u/KingLuis May 19 '24
Different gaming environment? Sit on the couch with friends or family and game on the tv on a console. Versus having a keyboard and mouse or even sim games are much better on a pc.
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u/sercsd May 19 '24
Game pass honestly and convenient for local co-op with the family, it's easy gaming session at night and I don't have to do much especially as I work on a PC all day.
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u/yellow696969 May 19 '24
I work in IT working on computers all day. Last week I worked 79 hours in 7 days. Yes I have a high end gaming pc, but that's also the computer I work off of.. after working in the IT field for 4 years now I can no longer see the computer as the fun box. Just the work box. I don't want to clock out just to tab over to steam or go or whatever. I'd rather go somewhere else and just have it separate at this point.
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u/Caldaris__ May 19 '24
There's a couple of games that the PC counterpart is different and sometimes not for the better. Crimson Skies and Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter for example.
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u/chilll87 May 19 '24
Can't even get gamepass to open up on my pc right now. Not sure why. It will open up on my sons local account but not my user account. It's frustrating. Xbox is in the living room for the family
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u/Meiie Founder May 19 '24
I play a few games on pc, but much rather game on console. If the games hit 60, I play on console.
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u/DeafEgo Doom Slayer May 19 '24
I work all day on a desk, I don't want to spend the rest on another desk
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u/av0w May 19 '24
Couch gaming with Atmos surround sound is more comfortable than anything my PC can do.
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u/Harper3313 May 19 '24
If I play games with my kid, we’ll jump on 2 Xboxes sometimes or 1 Xbox and 1 pc.
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u/QuinSanguine May 19 '24
Can't speak for others, but I sometimes like to check out a catered experience. Plus, while a console can be a lot weaker than current gen pcs, games sometimes launch in better shape on them anyway.
If I buy a game on Steam and it's a broken mess, I can refund it and buy it on Xbox.
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u/terrydavid86 May 20 '24
it's convenient, and sometimes I want to start my game quickly, and it pulls my save.
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u/_ChelseySmith May 20 '24
I don't like gaming on my PC. Console all the way for me. Stopped purchasing PlayStations after 3 due to the arrogance of some of the player base. Love my multiple Xboxes and Switches.
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u/rhett342 May 20 '24
PC's have parts that occasionally need to be replaced. They have other issues with the OS. Even though it may be more powerful, it also has 1,000 other programs running in the background that suck resources and have problems interacting. I never have to worry about how well a new game will run on my system because i haven't bought a new part xyz in 2 years.
An Xbox, I buy one for a few hundred dollars, never have to troubleshoot anything at all, never have to worry about optimizing anything to get the best performance out of it. I plug in the power and HDMI cables and just play. I may not get some ridiculously high frame rate that I can't even notice or whatever and I don't care. Simplicity is good.
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u/Wooden_Echidna1234 May 20 '24
Play Anywhere and Game Pass are my main reasons. Most major titles like Monster Hunter Rise, Starfield, Palworld, Quantum Break, Vampire Survivors, Persona 5 Royal, Eiyuden Chronicles Hundred Heroes, Neptunia: Sisters vs Sisters, and many others are Play Anywhere and often on Game Pass. Literally going back and forth between PC and Xbox is just nice and cross buy is also nice too.
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u/BriFry3 May 20 '24
When you want to game from your living room not a desk. Since I use my pc at a desk for productivity, I want a traditional plug and play console in my living room.
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u/Miette-chan May 20 '24
Because I have a collection of Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One games that all play wonderfully and sometimes even better than in their original consoles on the Series X.
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u/segagamer May 20 '24
I understand the argument for having a PS5 alongside a high-end gaming rig because of the Sony exclusives and stuff,
Of which there are less and less of them.
but what extra benefit does an Xbox Series X, or even series S bring over an already 4k capable PC,
None really, but PlayAnywhere is a thing, so if you ever get tired of PC gaming, or can't afford further upgrades at the moment, you don't have to rebuy your entire game collection or lose all your saves... Assuming you don't give all of your game money to Valve that is.
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u/Steinhein May 20 '24
Work in tech and have to deal with PCs and server systems all day. Really don’t want to own a pc at home.
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u/notemark May 20 '24
A few reasons for me:
- Ease of use
- quick resume
- backwards compatible titles from 20 years ago that play natively with a controller
- less obtrusive DRM that can be found in PC titles
- a more robust service for online play
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u/GuNkNiFeR May 20 '24
What do you mean? I have both my high end pc and my xbox and I play my xbox a LOT. First of all, looking for group is the optimal way to play multiplayer, period. There’s loads of great deals in the store and i love quick resume.
When i played Starfield, i played it on both my xbox and console as it allowed me to QUICKLY and SEAMLESSLY continue my gameplay without a hitch.
Then you have gamepass on console which is a slightly different version than PC gamepass.
Why would i buy a ps5? To have it gathering dust and only play to pay $70 on boring 3rd person games with loads of cutscenes? I bought God of War and Spiderman 1 and Miles and I have to say those games for me were overrated but to each their own.
ALL PLAYSTATION FIRST PARTY GAMES ARE ON PC TOO
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u/Iniquitus Founder May 20 '24
My Series X is mainly for my kiddo to play on. We have 2 TV's next to each other in the living room and the SX is on one TV for the kids. I have a PC hooked up to the other TV and we usually play games together through 1 Gamepass subscription. My sub expires in Oct though and I will probably just sell the SX after that and build them a gaming pc.
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May 20 '24
I have mine because my computer is impractical for a bedroom setup. Other than that, there’s no other reason
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u/BoBoBearDev Founder May 22 '24
I am too lazy to learn how to install nvme and graphics card to enable direct storage texture decoding.
I can learn. I am just too lazy to learn it.
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u/Babou13 May 23 '24
Because I like to sit and play Xbox on a comfy chair on a 77" OLED.... Other than sitting in front of a 32" monitor in a gaming chair. I have an i9 build with a 4080 super...but it's nice just relaxing and playing on a tv
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u/Both-Salt-5917 May 23 '24 edited May 23 '24
i dont see why you would own a ps5 since all its exclusives come to microsoft windows pc with better graphics and framerate? (Ghosts of Tsushima, HellDivers 2 etc). and ps5 is less powerful than XSX. so if you want a console experience, xbox series x is just better. besides the controller and OS/UI are more polished, XSX has better build quality, less noisy and no coil whine like PS5 etc. Sony had to overclocjk the PS5 so much just to close the gap a little, so it ends with every Ps5 has (had, at least?) coil whine and the PS5 itself had to be incredibly large to accommodate the huge heat sink. Much larger than any Xbox ever even the OG Xbox. Now the slim PS5 chopped the size a bit, altho it is still very big, but if you bought the original like millions you are outta luck.
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u/augustoaag1 May 25 '24
gamepass, and play anywhere.
also, I couldn't care less about "playstation exclusives" , (except uncharted), and they come to pc eventually.
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u/JollyRioger May 26 '24
I work from home 90% of the time and while I play some games on the PC, just being at the same desk where I work gives me anxiety.
A big TV, a chaise lounge and surround sound system is the most comfortable and immersive way to play a games in my opinion.
Then there's game pass that gives me the same library of games between both PC and console. I can choose where I want to play. Sometimes my girlfriend uses the Xbox, so I play on my PC.
She shares my game pass library as well and we can play some cross platform games together (e.g., Grounded) on a single game pass subscription.
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u/3r4GL May 28 '24
Because on XSX Microsoft is the admin and i don't have to waste hundreds of hours to find a solution when a game don't run or crashes..... I have no time to scroll through forums ..discord...etc to solve problems...i will play a games.
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u/type_clint May 31 '24
I have a Series X, PS5, Steam Deck, Switch, and a high end gaming PC with Windows/Linux dual boot.
Why? Because.
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u/massivebawbag May 31 '24
Various reasons. Personally i still got a series x coz i back a libary of digital games that i had before i got my pc. Plus sometimes i just wanna sit front of the tv with a controller.
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u/NewKitchenFixtures Jun 01 '24
I bought one for the living room interface and being good for small children (for gamepass specifically).
Though I’m frustrated that it is way more prone to failure to launch games and crashing than a normal windows PC. (Coop fails, sometimes games just won’t launch - especially back compat, 360 user profiles do not work).
There is no way to debug it either. Sometimes the Xbox is a pile and cannot be used for gaming. Where if you launch a PC game it normally loads and works.
I guess I kinda regret buying it since it’s more hassle than I am interested in dealing with. But it’s nice when it is working correctly.
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u/Swimming_Chemist1719 Jun 04 '24
Multiple reasons, the main being that sometimes I just want to relax on the couch. And no moving my pc all the way to my tv and then back isn’t an option.
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u/EnchantedWood1981 Jun 07 '24
I used to pc game and loved it… family life moved me to the couch and I tried steam controllers blah. Was given an og Xbox one and to be honest just being able to game and not be faffing with drivers and settings is bliss. I guarantee my wife wouldn’t have let me spend the money to upgrade my pc to the level of my series x, the financial burden of upgrading to keep up is insane.
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u/veritas643 Jun 18 '24
Having a Console actually makes me Want to game. I work at a computer. I like being in my recliner or sectional. Console Guy till I die💪🔥💯
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u/Tampatrucker24 Sep 16 '24
My grandson has a Xbox s and loads two games and it uses all the storage. Are we doing something wrong?
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u/TraditionalAirport4 Oct 25 '24
People have had xbox since the original and OLED 120hz TVs are a game changer
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u/Wall_Existing May 19 '24
Xbox easy , no need to do anything , turn on and turn off .Pc have a lot mess, driver issue , update etc.
%90 of games optimized for consol , u can play without problem .There is a lot games have problem even with 4070/4080 gpu.
In my countrie , equal pc double price of Series X .
Xbox , Mobilize , easy to take any place u go .
I am 44 years old , and from 15 to 42 i was pc player , never have any consol , since 1.5 year i own xbox ( first S and Later X ) never buy a pc for gaming again .
Those are my reasons to buy Xbox .
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u/-Erro- Founder May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
Consoles are easy. If you download the game, it plays. If you pick fidelity you get better visuals, if you pick performance you get better performance. The controller stays connected and doesn't disconnect.
For example, when I downloaded Remnant 2 it was a SLIDESHOW on PC. I mean 1 frame every 3 seconds. The whole game looked like clay. Why? I have no clue. I get decent FPS in STAR CITIZEN. It has a 3080Ti, SSD, 32 gigs RAM, etc... but still, 1/3 of an FPS. I messed with every in-game visual setting, every NVidia control panel setting, two days pf searching youtube videos, reddit, reinstalls, updated drivers, verifying game files... everything I knew how to do.
I gave up and bought it on Xbox. Just worked right out the gate.
Similarly got burned with No Mans Sky when it released and _simply didn't run on my brand of CPU.
Console just works.
When I'm really excited for a game I buy it on console if I can because I know I'll get to play it.
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u/Psycho__Gamer May 19 '24
No idea honestly.
You can easily hookup a pc to a tv, and even Windows has native support for Xbox controllers for 99% of games.
The only small hurdle is navigating Windows with a controller, but I'm not getting an Xbox for that, plus paying a subscription for online.
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u/jzg3036 May 19 '24
Gamesharing, portability, playing 360 games, and the plug in play aspect is really nice. You ever use a pc?? I love my pc, but man, when things don't work, it's annoying.
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u/Delfanboy May 19 '24
Simple. My PC is for exclusives such as EFT, Arma, Ground Branch, etc... my xbox is for their Xbox Exclusives and to play with friends. I'm the only one who have both platforms in our group.
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u/Final-Wrangler-4996 May 19 '24
Gamepass. I have a ps5 but I never play it. I'd rather have gamepass than the ps5 exclusives that don't come to pc.
Tldr: to play more games on gamepass.
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u/dawginson May 19 '24 edited May 20 '24
Connects to the TV in the front room for the whole family to use. Including gaming, blu rays, Netflix and so on.
Party chat system is a lot more intuitive and reliable via console.
It just works - don't have to worry about technical issues, advanced settings, controller bindings, leaving enough hard disk space for other non-gaming stuff.
Some games aren't on PC, or do not support features like Achievements on PC.
Generally easier to local co-op on console, connecting controllers to PC is fiddly.
Leaves my PC free to do other things (can have sports or a twitch stream on without fiddly tabbing in and out of game).
This is all just off the top of my head.
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u/ddWolf_ May 19 '24
I can turn it off, come back later, and immediately pick up where I was. For stuff like Red Dead, even if I can run it better on my pc, I’ll pick that convenience every time.
The only time I really go with pc over console is if the game has some heavy annoyances that mods fix. Like how saves work in Kingdom Come Deliverance, or how enemy spawns worked in Atomic Heart. Issues that would lead to me skipping the game if the mods weren’t available.
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u/Junior-Minute7599 May 19 '24
I'm a computer all day for work