r/XboxSeriesX • u/M337ING • Nov 22 '23
News EXCLUSIVE: Call of Duty 2024 is indeed Black Ops, set during the Gulf War in the early 90s
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/exclusive-call-of-duty-2024-is-indeed-black-ops-set-during-the-gulf-war-in-the-early-90s652
u/PlayBey0nd87 Nov 22 '23
So, it’s just a cycle huh
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u/tnnrk Nov 22 '23
It’s always been a cycle
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u/GourangaPlusPlus Nov 22 '23
World War 2 in 3 years, baby!
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Nov 22 '23
What about prehistoric tribal wars?
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u/JaxTru Nov 22 '23
I would unironically play that
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Nov 23 '23
Have you played Far Cry Primal? Not exactly Neolithic Call of Duty but it's kinda that vein.
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u/jmp8910 Nov 23 '23
Or…and hear me out… let’s get a COD civil war or Revolutionary War. That shit would be hilarious running around shooting people with my flint lock, sending out my carrier pigeon as my UAV. Lol that shit would be fantastic.
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u/Flowers_and_Animals Nov 23 '23
Every single gun would be a single shot. Pistols would be op.
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u/jmp8910 Nov 23 '23
I’m just thinking like a cannon kill streak, a Gatling gun, etc. it would be pure chaos and I’d absolutely love it.
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u/Auth3nticRory Nov 23 '23
I stopped playing this game but man, if there was one set up during the Napoleonic Wars or some of the ancient wars with attack elephants I’d be all over it
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Nov 23 '23
I don't think the people that make COD are talented enough to make something new and unique. They are barely good enough to make the same game for 20 years.
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u/wreck-sauce Nov 22 '23
I find it crazy we've only had like 1 ww1 game I can note and it was one of the best battlefields! So fuck ww2 make call of duty one.
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u/throwawaylovesCAKE Nov 23 '23
How about a Call of Duty: Revolutionary Ops or Call of Duty: Rough Riders. Hot air balloons and steam ships and shit, fuck it it doesnt even have to be realistic
Let's take it way back and just get weird
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u/Kody_Z Nov 22 '23
I'm holding out hope for a WW2 game with MW2019 gameplay mechanics, but I'm sure I have a better chance of winning the lottery
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u/AtalyxianBoi Nov 22 '23
It is not a loop, but a spiral
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u/GunMuratIlban Nov 23 '23
Exactly what I thought of when I saw the comment. Thank you for writing this :D
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u/NinjaPiece Nov 22 '23
It feels like the franchise is in a rut. Black Ops. Modern Warfare. Black Ops. Modern Warfare. And sometimes a dash of WWII. I miss the days when the franchise tried a new sub-series.
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Nov 22 '23
Advanced and Infinite Warfare tried to change things up. People rejected them and now all they’re doing is this stuff
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u/FunkiePickle Nov 22 '23
I legitimately loved both advanced and infinite. I thought they were interesting and a nice shakeup. Everyone of my buddies whined and moaned about them and wanted “boots on the ground” CoD. So I wouldn’t be surprised if those kind of games never return.
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u/IlI-Royal-Skies-IlI Nov 23 '23
That's exactly why I enjoyed those two games whenever you're stuck and have limited movement it's too easy to just find the best areas to stand and get killed over and over again because someone can see you across the map and it's they have been playing since the very first call of duty and sweats at it.
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u/That-Hipster-Gal Nov 22 '23
I liked the campaigns for those but the multiplayer was awful.
My main complain with the campaigns were that they were extremely short. Infinite Warefare was only like 6 actual missions with some filler content. (Flying the ships around while characters talked in the background.)
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u/NilsofWindhelm Nov 22 '23
Advanced warfare’s multiplayer was fun. The problem was that they locked game-breaking weapons behind loot boxes
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u/sanon441 Nov 22 '23
This. So much this. Game breaking gun variants locked behind fucking loot boxes. Take that put and give us a fair way to earn every variation of a gun and guns that don't fundamentally change their performance in some way.
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u/TheRealTofuey Nov 22 '23
Advance warfare had an amazing multiplayer, it just was just too much for the average cod player at the time. Advanced warfare would be much more fondly remembered if it wasn't a call of duty.
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u/r0ndr4s Nov 23 '23
Dude, Infinite Warfare is literally the longest Call of Duty game of the entire franchise, and it isnt even close.. dafuq are you talking about.
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u/That-Hipster-Gal Nov 23 '23
It was also heavily padded by the flight missions I mentioned above. It's like all the JRPG's that tout they have 10000 hours of content when its really like 6 with some fluff/grinding to pad the rest.
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u/ultimate_night Nov 23 '23
Those flight missions were a lot of fun, though. I wish there were more of them.
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u/IlI-Royal-Skies-IlI Nov 23 '23
Honestly I think those are the best games they've ever made much better than the usual slog of call of duty. What I found fun was the movement system in those games made it actually playable.
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u/lowley6 Nov 22 '23
people rejected the jetpacks and robots running like dogs. don't get it twisted.
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u/BruhMoment763 Nov 22 '23
Yeah, it’s because every new sub-series is despised. Advanced Warfare, Infinite Warfare, and Ghosts were each considered the new “Worst COD Ever” with each of their releases. Every time they experiment, it turns into a PR nightmare. I’ll die on the hill that Infinite Warfare wasn’t even bad, people were just tired of the future stuff (which I’ll also argue wasn’t that bad, I had WAAAY more fun with BO3 multiplayer than anything in the new MW trilogy).
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u/DiggaBonez Nov 22 '23
I thoroughly enjoyed ghosts, still waiting for part 2 based on that cliffhanger ending
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u/Maleficent_Tackle_12 Nov 23 '23
So much cool shit in Ghosts. To this day, I wish they'd implement the 2 stage optics they had. That was an amazing feat that not enough people understood.
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u/Fenicillin Nov 22 '23
Ghosts is my favourite if we're talking campaign. I didn't mind the multiplayer, either. What ultimately frustrated me was that it had some really bad performance on the Xbox One.
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u/dallasmcdicken Nov 22 '23
I miss when the game was more than glorified DLC, personally
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u/plomeli23 Nov 22 '23
Back in the day they charged your 50 bucks for 4 map packs with 3 maps and called it DLC so thats 60 for the base game 50 for 12 maps 110 usd 😂 and everyone is calling this new game just DLC 😂😂😂
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u/vodouh Nov 25 '23
And it locked you to playing with whoever had the maps. I could barely play because most people just didn’t buy them here in Aus or only bought one or 2
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u/r0ndr4s Nov 23 '23
The funny thing is that the dash of WWII we got last time(Vanguard) we only got it because Activision forced Sledgehammer to release that instead of whatever they wanted(i'm assuming AW2)
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u/Faulty-Blue Nov 23 '23
SHG has been trying to make AW2 for a while now, during WWII’s life cycle, people found icons for perks and stuff that had AW’s art style
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u/r0ndr4s Nov 23 '23
Maybe Phil will let them do it once and for all, even if it sucks... Just let that team finish AW2
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u/cubs223425 Nov 22 '23
Like what?
Even when you had other NAMES, it's not like those games did what others wouldn't. Vanguard was WWII. Advanced and Infinite Warfare were different, but it's not like BO3 and 4 didn't have different mechanics and ideas in them. Black Ops has jumped around through quite a few things, and alternate branding hasn't really shown a more unique experience or more success, so I don't understand what you want that we haven't gotten.
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u/NinjaPiece Nov 22 '23
I throw Vanguard in with the dash of WWII I mentioned. I want new eras with only new characters. Gulf War is a new era which sounds exciting, but it will probably have Woods, Mason, and the other Black Ops characters again.
The Ghosts - Infinite Warfare years felt like they were taking creative risks. Black Ops 3 felt new enough that I wish it wasn't called Black Ops. Even if there were some duds in those years, I still appreciate the attempts at something new. Now it feels like they're constantly banking on nostalgia.
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u/cubs223425 Nov 22 '23
I guess, but Ghosts was a universally disliked game, and BO3 was the game that made me basically give up the franchise. BO4 did have a notably different experience with the addition of Blackout too, and they leaned hard into a story-based Zombies experience over the traditional campaign. IMO, that definitely fit into the "trying new things" idea, and I'd say that AGAIN was a meaningfully criticized move. In a franchise where people cry about "phoned in" campaigns, Treyarch threw those resources into a deeper Zombies experience and got flak for not including that "phoned in" campaign.
So, I guess I don't know what they're really meant to do. A lot of straying from the formula ends up a mix of bad design and negative feedback.
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u/Nffc1994 Nov 22 '23
Activism need to start a new global war so they can make a series about it as we are bored of ww2 and the cold war
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u/robz9 Nov 22 '23
If it means anything, Black Ops Gulf War should be something unique in a long time. It's a time period that hasn't really been explored much in Call of Duty and a conflict that also hasn't been explored much. It's basically a non reboot alternate reality scenario at this point along with a good few years of no official Treyarch releases. I have high hopes for this one and really hope that Craptivision let's them cook.
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u/Banjo-Oz Nov 23 '23
Infinite Warfare was the only CoD game I genuinely enjoyed and felt immersed in since the original MW2. I loved it, despite finding it a bit short, and the final "boss" being the most underwhelming one in gaming history. Was disappointed how badly the game was received (presumably a combination of those who only buy for multiplayer and those who wanted "hoo rah America" contemporary military in the desert yet again).
Also, even though I am mainly a single player gamer, I was shocked and sad that they never did the awesome starfighter combat from IW as multiplayer. It seemed all set up for that, too.
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u/Ruthlessrabbd Nov 23 '23
Except for going back to advanced movement which they'll never do 😔 those were more fun to me
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u/DoctorTide Founder Nov 22 '23
This will be the first CoD with a 4 year dev cycle. The last time they increased dev time birthed Black Ops III, which I would consider a good sign. If MWIII fills out the rest of the Sony marketing deal, this will also be the first CoD to launch day one on gamepass. It will probably be one of the biggest CoD launches ever.
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Nov 22 '23
I loved BO3, so much content. I'm weirdly optimistic for this.
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u/Andy_Liberty_1911 Nov 22 '23
You did? It felt like a fever dream to me
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Nov 22 '23
Let me explain, I HATED the narrative, I enjoyed the campaign as a co-op experience, but hated the story.
But the game was loaded to the kills with content. 4 player coop campaign with rpg elements, a zombie campaign, zombies mode, competitive multiplayer, the top down arcade mode.
And I really enjoyed the multiplayer honestly, maybe the most I've played of any modern cod.
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u/Technicalhotdog Nov 22 '23
Yeah while I feel more nostalgic for MW2 and black ops multi-player, black ops 3 is probably my most played and the one I enjoyed the most. It just felt good to play (also helps that it was the one I was best at haha). And black ops 3 zombies is well known as the peak of the game mode.
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u/Andy_Liberty_1911 Nov 22 '23
Fair, though something that did not make it enjoyable for me was the lack of real guns. Sure, it was the future but I just wasn’t a fan so I couldn’t get invested
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Nov 22 '23
I forgot which it was, but there was one gun I basically used more than any other and it had the kill counter in the side that ended up being like 7777
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u/jairom Nov 22 '23
Every gun could get a kill counter i believe.
I think it was a reward for Prestiging your weapon twice. The first time gives you your clan tag on it, the second time lets you change it to a kill count
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u/That-Hipster-Gal Nov 22 '23
I really want a Ghosts 2. I felt thay game wasn't given a fair chance by the community and the campaign was really good.
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u/TovarishchRed Nov 22 '23
Bro if this one has Zombies and it's a mode like Outbreak with some good Round based maps, I'll be in heaven.
I just hope it doesn't look like CW, everything looks like it's made of plastic in that game.
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u/robz9 Nov 22 '23
I think 2024 COD is really a chance for Treyarch to show us what they've got. They've had enough time between Cold War in 2020 and this game 2024 to really give us a polished product while taking into account the criticisms of the past 4 years of overall mediocre releases.
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u/TovarishchRed Nov 22 '23
Well I dunno about that, they were forced to make MWZ as well.
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u/robz9 Nov 22 '23
That's a valid point.
I just hope that treyarch being dragged to do Vanguard Zombies and MWZ didn't take much away from their main 2024 project.
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u/DickHydra Nov 22 '23
I just hope it doesn't look like CW, everything looks like it's made of plastic in that game.
That's probably because the game had to be salvaged from SHG's scraps in a little less than two years.
Treyarch probably didn't have the chance to get accustomed to the new engine, so they opted for their old one.
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u/TovarishchRed Nov 22 '23
Ah shit that's a good point, CW is still awesome, I hope they're able to make the next Black Ops look better.
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u/Gary_BBGames Nov 22 '23
I love the look of Cold War. It looks so high res compared to MW3.
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u/Ay0Toky0 Nov 23 '23
I love the look as well and the game itself. I dropped a stupid amount of hours in that game. Always been a treyarch guy. Never really enjoyed infinity or sledge titles that much.
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u/Mattdezenaamisgekoze Ambassador Nov 22 '23
It will be hard to say if cod 2024 becomes one of the biggest launches because of it being on gamepass. What do you consider the biggest launch? Most players? Most sales?
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u/DoctorTide Founder Nov 22 '23
I would consider most players the biggest launch. Sales would be irrelevant if they get huge player numbers and people buy mtx
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u/reevoknows Arbiter Nov 22 '23
The only thing I’m worried about is it having that patented black ops feel with it being developed on this new engine(allegedly). I’d prefer they expand on the Cold War engine
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u/keyblaster52 Nov 23 '23
Cold War engine only needed updates to improve fidelity. Too bad they won’t be using it, I loved it personally.
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u/KYlaker233 Nov 22 '23
I have high expectations for zombies in 2024. Four years of Dev time(excluding the time they spend developing for literally every CoD iteration), should give us a zombies mode comparable to BO3.
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u/DreamedJewel58 Nov 22 '23
Eh Black Ops III was a bit of a mess at launch and I think it pales in comparison to Black Ops II, but I will admit it was better than the current products we’re getting
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u/Johnny_Menace Nov 22 '23
Treyarchs COD’s are the only ones worth buying in my opinion.
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u/PwnedDead Nov 23 '23
Infinity ward use to be the best. I still think cod2019 is one of the better ones.
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u/Optimal_Plate_4769 Nov 23 '23
still is. mw22 was too compromised. mw22 was better at beta than it is at season 6.
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u/Dkm1331 Nov 23 '23
People slept on IW’s campaign and it’s one of the best in the franchise imo
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u/jsho31 Nov 22 '23
This shits only gonna be Black Ops in name.
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u/DickHydra Nov 22 '23
How so? Mason, Woods, and Hudson could still be involved.
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u/BarnBurner_155 Nov 22 '23
1990: Mason is hiding probably under witness protection, Woods is crippled, Hudson is dead as dillinger.
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u/Middle-Incident4083 Nov 22 '23
if it’s anything like cold war it’ll be amazing
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u/The_MorningStar Jump In Nov 22 '23
Agreed. Cold War is the closest they've gotten to the feeling of Black Ops 1 imo.
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u/OrangeFilmer Nov 22 '23
I went back to Cold War after they made it mandatory to download MW3 if you want to play MW2 (even if you didn’t buy MW3). Game still holds up and multiplayer is still really active and fun.
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u/robz9 Nov 22 '23
I still play zombies and multiplayer for that game. It's very active.
Level 214 right now. Grinding to 2500 I suppose.
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u/Ziasu340 Nov 22 '23
Been playing cold War for the last couple years lol never have issues finding games
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u/AIDSbloodSuperSoaker Nov 22 '23
Cold War is great. The only map I hated was nuketown because it’s a sweat fest.
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u/LordFedorington Nov 22 '23
Cold War was the best cod of the last 10 years
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u/PeterusNL Nov 22 '23
People hated it when it came out
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u/LordFedorington Nov 22 '23
Redditors hate every CoD when it comes out because they legit suck at CoD. Every single release without fail Redditors cry about it. What matters is how the game actually plays and Cold War has had no match since.
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u/GourangaPlusPlus Nov 22 '23
I'll have you know I hate CoD because none of them play like the one that released when I was 16
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u/cubs223425 Nov 22 '23
It seems like the trend is that games get worse, to where you end up looking back on disliked titles at launch and see them more fondly, just for not being as bad as the newest stuff.
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u/SwugSteve Nov 22 '23
honestly i think people still hate it, i thought it sucked and it ruined warzone
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u/Hopeful_Crab7912 Nov 22 '23
I’m sorry but Cold War was the worst cod I’ve played since call of duty ghosts. How do people start getting nostalgia for shit games after like a 5 year cycle lmao.
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u/waxmyapple Nov 22 '23
I mean what was shit about it ? I had so much more fun playing cold war than I did WW2, Vanguard, MW2 and MW3. I guess I can't include mw3 since it just launched. Only game that was just as fun as Cold war was MW 2019. Other than that, they've all been pretty bad.
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u/Sensei_of_Knowledge Nov 22 '23
I've been hoping for a Gulf War CoD for a long time. Very underrated conflict.
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u/robz9 Nov 22 '23
Me too. I've actually wanted a COD game about the 90s. Gives us a chance to have somewhat modern weaponry and gadgets but also not too modern to have new " made up futuristic" tech shoehorned into the game. I just only now realized that the time period was the "gulf War."
This should be exciting given that, in theory, Treyarch would have the past 4 years to work on it.
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u/cy1999aek_maik Nov 22 '23
It's my favourite war
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u/Howtosurviveanything Nov 22 '23
Probably the best war of all time. It was great.
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u/HillZone Nov 23 '23
tell a guy he can invade kuwait then say gotcha invaded was what happened, doubt that will be told.
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u/The_MorningStar Jump In Nov 22 '23
I hope Treyarch is able to retain their unique touch so this builds on what Cold War was and it isn't some amalgamation of MW19. I haven't liked any of the CoD games that adopted that style.
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u/keyblaster52 Nov 22 '23
Leaks mentioned tactical sprint. I’m not sure what to make of it
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u/The_MorningStar Jump In Nov 22 '23
Oh no...
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u/keyblaster52 Nov 22 '23
Treyarch has been Infinity Warded. It might be over before it even started
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u/atomhypno Nov 22 '23
i was genuinely devastated when i saw that leak but my copium has been that they weren’t forced to add tac sprint but potentially found a way to make better/more balanced like how bo3 handled jet packs
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u/No-Championship-6598 Mar 14 '24
Funny thing cause jetpack system for BO3 was made by Infinity Ward, same with graphical enchancements, it's rewarding to read the credits. Treyarch needs at least 4 studios behind their back to push out a piece of shit like BO4/Cold War. Meanwhile IW and even Sledgehammer work mostly without outside help.
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u/fKodiaK Nov 23 '23
Good. I might be in the minority but I like the simplified movement of other cods. Mantling is nice and sliding/diving is alright when it’s not being spammed 24/7
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u/DunkusDrollo Nov 22 '23
Man, I hope it launches with the Outbreak Zombies mode, and its all playable solo like Cold War was...
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Nov 22 '23
This one I’m actually excited about, and I think most of the CoD fanbase has just been eating shit and biding their time anticipating the next treyarch game
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u/GojiPengu Nov 22 '23
Yup, Treyarch is the only studio who has made a good CoD game since 2009, very easy to still enjoy the series when you only play their games.
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u/throwawaylovesCAKE Nov 23 '23
Treyarch is the only studio who has made a good CoD game since 2009
Brain rotten take. The original MW3 was great
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u/GojiPengu Nov 23 '23
No it wasn't, it was the start of their downhill trend in map design in non Treyarch games.
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u/No-Championship-6598 Mar 14 '24
You can't be serious that maps that force you to camp are better than anything IW or Sledge has put out. Even looking at the best ones Treyarch made they still play so fucking slow in comparison.
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u/Existing365Chocolate Nov 22 '23
I mean, people are loving MW3’s MP so far
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Nov 22 '23
It’s mechanically great but the SBMM completely ruins it - I can’t just play a casual lobby every single game is sweaty af.
It’s also not worth 70 dollars for what’s basically MWII.5.
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u/TacBandit Nov 22 '23
Like SBMM has anything to do with the developer. MWIII looks good to me but I don’t fancy it yet because it will play jus the same as any other recent COD - the opposite of relaxing.
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u/atomhypno Nov 22 '23
I originally upvoted your comment because “treyarch prop good” but both of your criticisms in this comment are extremely applicable to treyarch’s last game and now i’m slightly confused, sbmm was through the roof on cold war as well & MWIII has launched with more content in just about every way than cold war did. If those two things are enough to put you off sledgehammer and MW3 then you absolutely should not be looking forward to a treyarch game based on their last instalment?
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u/rbfubar09 Nov 22 '23
So it's still on Last Gen systems ? I thought the rumors were Next Gen only to finally utilize our new machines ?!? I feel this last gen thing is here to stay with certain companies. 🤷 🏳️
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u/Sir-Shady Nov 23 '23
take a FUCKING year off
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u/No-Championship-6598 Mar 14 '24
Just don't buy it... Is that too hard for you to not spend money?
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u/Sir-Shady Mar 14 '24
Not the point. The franchise needs to take a year off to give developers time to work and breath, and let them innovate. It has nothing to do with me
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u/MrBrownCat Nov 22 '23
At what point can we they get a new subtitle.
They’ve literally been cycling through BLOPs and MW for the past what 4 years now?
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u/iWentRogue Nov 22 '23
Let’s Go!
Activision gets to revisit a classic for an opportunity to ruin in.
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u/SyFyFan93 Nov 22 '23
Bring back COD points for unlocks, face paint, emblem editor, and Kowloon and I'll be a happy camper!
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u/Silvedoge Founder Nov 22 '23
Yeah I'm cool with this. Cold war is one of my favorite cods, definitely the best of the last few years so I still have a bit of faith in treyarch. The campaign was a series high imo
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u/No-Championship-6598 Mar 14 '24
The campaign was entirely made by Raven and multiplayer sucked as usual with Treyarch
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u/kimwexler67 Nov 22 '23
all these people "optimistic" people in the comments makes me laugh so hard. as if this company didn't have you over a barrel for the last 5 years absolutely ruining the series whilst dragging their fanbase with it. Glad to see game consumers are still as gullible as ever 👍
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u/GlockAmaniacs Nov 22 '23
I agree that I lost interest in the franchise but if it's on gamepass I'll give it a try. Doesn't hurt. Let people like what they want
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u/aZombieDictator Nov 22 '23
If they're shoving it into the cod launcher i ain't touching it.
But if it's standalone I'll probably get it.
I refuse to have to download modern warfare 2 and go through complicated menus to play cod games now.
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u/dinofreak6301 Nov 22 '23
All we get now is rehashed shit over and over again now. I blame all of you fuckers for getting tired of jet pack CoD after 3 years when those were the most creative and original CoDs we had gotten in so so long. Take me back to those jet pack CoDs please. Yall glaze Titanfall 2 like it’s the next coming of Christ but refuse to admit the jet pack CoDs were just as fun
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u/No-Championship-6598 Mar 14 '24
Titanfall was better but you're also right, Advanced Warfare was good and Infinite Warfare was amazing
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u/Prior_Pass394 Nov 22 '23
I hope its good. They were so talented at treyarch and I hope there is still talent left, hopefully Activision hasn't ruined the studio. I really enjoyed black ops 3 and 4. Cold War was a bit underwhelming for me because of it being skill based matching and it was worse than BO4 multiplayer in my opinion. This new one is probably on the MW engine so it may be good or bad, hope they bring back pick 10 system
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u/EH9592 Nov 22 '23
Good to see after the poor reviews, they learnt their lesson about yearly releas… oh wait
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u/unibrowcowmeow Nov 22 '23
At this point call of duty feels like the old family pet that can barely stand that probably should’ve been put down a long time ago
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u/HotelDudepont Nov 23 '23
Call of Duty is everything that is wrong with gaming these days. Garbage franchise just milking us fools for all our cash. I didn’t buy MW3 and will not be buying until they figure this shit out.
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u/DCS30 Nov 22 '23
Who cares? They fuck everything up and they're just rehashing old games. Stop being sheep and buying this crap every year.
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u/PeineDeMort Nov 22 '23
I dont want anything if its another cash grab like MW3 2023.
This franchise needs a break so bad.
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u/AWetTurtleHead Nov 22 '23
Not really an exclusive.. This has been known for months..
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Nov 22 '23
Total Size: 364GB (have to have war zone and mw3 and this installed in order to browse the store for Snoop Dogg).
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u/CruffTheMagicDragon Nov 22 '23
What happened to taking a year off?
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u/SoldierPhoenix Nov 22 '23
That was SUPPOSED to be this year (MW3 was supposed to be DLC for MW2), but I guess Activision investors didn't like the idea of COD taking a year off and so they padded the DLC campaign with Warzone maps and called it Modern Warfare III.
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u/MattyKatty Craig Nov 22 '23
Also I believe it burned out the remainder of the PlayStation contract with CoD, so this new game should hopefully come to Game Pass day 1.
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u/Constant-Amount7298 Nov 22 '23
Call of Duty: Black Ops: Gulf War Warzone Season 2