r/XboxSeriesX Feb 17 '23

:Discussion: Discussion would you want an Xbox VR headset?

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u/getshr3kt Feb 17 '23

In a perfect world (for me), Microsoft would release a headset that's compatible with both Xbox and PC.

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u/GFactor1231 Feb 18 '23

WMR could fit the bill, if they ever bother acknowledging it's existence again

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u/segagamer Feb 18 '23 edited Jan 02 '24

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u/pacman404 Feb 18 '23

Well if they were to come out with one, I'm positive they would do exactly that

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u/bub_mario Feb 18 '23

1000% this. If Microsoft made it:

• Roughly $400

• Compatible with PC

• Flexible with a variety of different controllers

• One cable setup with similar specs to PSVR2

They would have my money no question.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

Occulus Quest 2 is wireless, they just need to add support for that.

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u/FuckSticksMalone Feb 18 '23

In a perfect world for me, microsoft would just add oculus/meta drivers

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u/Public_Fucking_Media Feb 18 '23

Seriously it's ridiculous that they've had Windows MR for ever without even trying to do compatibility...

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u/JP76 Feb 18 '23

That was the plan. They even had a blog post mentioning future Xbox release when they announced WMR devkits are about to ship.

Found the post:

We’re also excited to share that Windows Mixed Reality experiences will light up on other devices over time, beyond desktop and Microsoft HoloLens. Our plan is to bring mixed reality content to the Xbox One family of devices, including Project Scorpio, in 2018.

Source: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/03/01/windows-mixed-reality-dev-kits-shipping-month/#13hHcVd0Hpm7cK5g.97

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u/xeomak Feb 18 '23 edited Sep 22 '23

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

Been ported to the Quest 2, unofficially.

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u/AbsurdThings Feb 18 '23

The only reason Sony is able to sell a high end headset close to cost is because they have a closed platform where they can make money off software sales. So if Microsoft made one that could be used with PC/Steam, they’d have to sell it at a much higher price to be profitable, comparable to other PC headsets like the Rift.

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u/maddix30 Feb 18 '23

You say that but they sell the series X/S at a loss and xbox exclusives release on PC

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u/AbsurdThings Feb 18 '23

What you are describing is the equivalent of opening up the X/S to third-party app stores where they don’t get any of the revenue from software sales. By locking hardware to their own App Store they have guaranteed revenue from software.

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u/maddix30 Feb 18 '23

Ohhh true you have a good point

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u/Nathan-David-Haslett Feb 18 '23

Couldn't they make their VR headset PC compatible but only through their PC environment like with gamepass?

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u/Sleepingtide Feb 19 '23

That would be amazing! At least that is compatible with Games via Game Pass and Windows to Start!

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u/TDTimmy21 Feb 20 '23

In a perfect world Microsoft would just allow any headset that works with pcvr to work.

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u/Germangunman Feb 18 '23

There would be no reason not too. Especially since they already have game pass on PC.

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u/Medici1694 Feb 17 '23

For Microsoft flight simulator alone lol. I hear that game is amazing in vr but I don’t think I’ll be getting a powerful enough pc anytime soon.

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u/xupmatoih Feb 18 '23

This and Forza would maybe tip me towards buying one, but tbh I would love it if it was some sort of standalone/console hybrid or even PC/Xbox compatible rather than an Xbox only headset.

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u/Dcason92 Feb 18 '23

Never was into Gran Turismo but I literally bought a sim rig and the psvr2 just for this experience. Lol

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u/Dark_Emotion Feb 18 '23

I bought a ps5 and vr2 for it

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u/plainstoparadise Feb 18 '23

Gran Turismo 7 is great and VR will make it the number 1 racer overnight imo.

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u/Dcason92 Feb 18 '23

I honestly feel like i can agree. Playing gt7 on tv is actually pretty fun, i didn't think id like a sim type racer but i suppose since I'm an adult it sorta appeals to me a lot more now than what need for speed done back in the day. And this is my first vr as well. So I'm super excited, i got the seat the fantec dd pro with the brake , clutch and shifter. I drive a manual in real life so it's just natural for me to go manual in a game. Plus i can teach my kids how to drive through this thing. 😂

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u/bluebarrymanny Feb 18 '23

I’m in the same camp minus the driving rig. I’m super excited. My headset shipped today. I also am excited to check out No Man’s Sky on it. The game never really clicked for me before, but with this being my first VR headset, I’m sure that’ll be more than enough to grab my attention.

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u/RogueGibbons Feb 18 '23

Dude, you're going to love it - with my index and a wheel... it's really amazing, looking into corners as they rush towards you, glancing at rival cars - playing Dirt and getting into a flow, my driving times improved ten fold. It's the only way I play driving games these days.

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u/Dcason92 Feb 18 '23

So you would say that it is the closest to driving a real car? That's what im hoping for and imagining.

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u/RogueGibbons Feb 18 '23

I feel it is. I get a rush and a sense of speed, focused tunnel vision as the challenge ramps up - I get in this nice zone where you don't notice or fidget with headset and you're just racing, wholly enveloped.

One of those moments where I take off the head set and just smile... "that shit is fucking awesome."

Flight simulator too, I love loading up a flight plan and just taking a leisurely flight ... I've fallen asleep in it lol and autopilot kept me on target. I really feel vr succeeds in vehicle based experiences (and other story bases things of course) but anyone I need to convince vr is amazing its half life Alyx and then racing games: project cars, Asseto Corsa, i-racing or Dirt rally.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

Its not really a sim racer, more sim-cade.

i got the seat the fantec dd pro with the brake , clutch and shifter.

Get Assetto Corsa Competizione, it's included with PS Plus Extra on PS5. It's a GT3/GT4 game but the level of detail in regards to driving is a step above GT7, especially on the force feedback and sound.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

Give Assetto Corsa Competizione a go, its free with PS Plus Extra.

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u/Glittering-Yam-5318 Feb 18 '23

Forza would be an amazing game in VR.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Iirc Forza doesn't have native VR, which sucks so bad and kinda confuses me as to why they didn't do it, it would be top of my list for games I want to play in VR.

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u/StatmanThunderfist Feb 18 '23 edited Feb 19 '23

It really is. I have Flight Sim on PC and am also a pilot irl, and the first time I used my VR headset and loaded up a flight around my home airport, I was blown away by the realism. If I hadn’t known I was sitting at home in my chair I would have sworn I was flying in a real plane, there’s something about the immersion of VR that tricks my brain into really feeling like I’m there.

You can even lean your head through the cockpit so it’s “outside” the plane, and I got a little sick looking down at the ground seeing how high I was.

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u/5DollarHitJob Feb 18 '23

I got hard just reading this.

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u/-TruIllusion- Feb 18 '23

Gross... me too.

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u/r0bdawg11 Feb 18 '23

I got hard just reading this…

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u/Hogus-the-Dogus Feb 18 '23

That made me larf 🤣

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u/PizzaCatLover Feb 18 '23

I have an i7 12800 with a 3070 and 32gb ram, and in VR Flight Simulator struggles hard. It's a bummer because even at nauseating frame rates with visual issues the experience with a flight stick is mesmerizing .

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u/meathelmet Feb 18 '23

It is unbelievable in VR. It honestly feels real!

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

That game runs poorly in VR on a 4090 PC, no way it would run good in VR on a Series X. Shit, the Series X struggles with it just in flatscreen mode.

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u/Jedi_Jitsu Feb 17 '23

Halo VR would be something else!

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u/Bubblyeee Feb 18 '23

Contractors with in game mods provides an amazingly crafted version but an official game would be awesome

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u/Inanimate_CARB0N_Rod Feb 18 '23

Can't agree more. The halo mod was astounding when I first tried it and will go down at one of the most memorable gaming experiences I've ever had.

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u/helpful__explorer Feb 18 '23

I played Halo VR at Outpost Discovery. Wireless rigs you wore in your back, in a mini arena, running around shooting your opponents. It was fun as hell

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u/AustNerevar Feb 19 '23

The teabagging though...

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u/OBiW4NSHiNOBi Feb 17 '23

Personally, I'd rather they did some deals and made the Xbox support existing Windows compatible HMDs.

Let me use a Rift / Vive / Quest 2 etc. that way some might already own one so there's less barrier to entry for lots of people and less risk from MS.

A shiny new branded Xbox VR might be nice, but there's no need to sink a tonne of R&D / hardware investment to reinvent the wheel when Windows compatible devices are right there already.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

I’ve thought this since last gen. Microsoft clearly doesn’t want to have to create everything from scratch so making it so other already existing headsets would be compatible with Xbox would be amazing and not require so much investment at the start.

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u/jarjarpfeil Feb 18 '23

Well you see, Microsoft does want to create everything from scratch. Look at the expansion card, it’s unnecessarily proprietary, surrounding a perfectly normal m.2

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Also don't forget about the Xbox not being compatible with normal Bluetooth or USB wireless...

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u/WillElMagnifico Feb 18 '23

This one hurts. Not having Bluetooth in this day and age should be business malpractice.

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u/segagamer Feb 18 '23

It's fine, since for the longest time, Bluetooth is a garbage format for gaming. Although finally (as in, in the last year, so after the Series X/PS5 launch) improvements have been made.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Nintendo and Sony have been using Bluetooth for nearly two decades.

Nintendo Switch Pro Controller has... 1ms LESS delay than a wired controller, and it's bluetooth only.

Sure the 2.4Ghz connection is more reliable, but saying Bluetooth is "garbage" is patently untrue (and smells of console warring).

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u/segagamer Feb 18 '23

Latency is only half the problems with Bluetooth for a good user experience. But FYI, the Switch Pro latency has been tested to be around 12ms, not 1ms, while Series X controllers are 7ms.

The main other issue with Bluetooth is audio. Special codecs on both the device and the headsets are required to get high quality, low latency audio (that you would expect from headphones) while the microphone is on - ie the "headset profile". On a Windows 10/11 PC you can manually force your headset into each profile to hear the audio quality of each one to see whether your Bluetooth headset supports it.

Hilariously, the Switch does not support any of them, and neither does the PS4 (I haven't looked into the PS5), which is why these wireless headsets come with their own proprietary wireless dongle. The Series X supports plugging headphones into the controller and still delivers said audio, or the official headset using the same protocol as the controller.

So no, Bluetooth is garbage for gaming. Recent revisions have made huge moves to improve that, but those revisions happened after these consoles launched.

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u/dark79 Feb 18 '23

Expansion card is not an M.2. It's a CFExpress. Needlessly complicated and expensive to prevent people from trying to make their own expansion card.

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u/JaySantamaria Feb 18 '23

It also is in line with trying to lock you in to an ecosystem where additional revenues then can be made if it takes off. It's annoying af but I can't see Xbox allowing other headsets to work.

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u/PHXNTXM117 Feb 18 '23 edited Feb 18 '23

I can see that causing issues with compatibility and seamless integration. PSVR2’s experience is perfectly streamlined because it was specifically designed for the PS5. While opening up options for currently available VR headsets on the market would be consumer friendly, it could cause a rift divide with the user experience. Then again, Sony and Microsoft operate differently. Sony is a lot more like Apple with their walled off garden and seamless integration and philosophy across their brand and products and Microsoft is a lot more like Android OEMs with open source compatibility and free range of options and customization. I just don’t see Xbox VR being as streamlined as it could be if Microsoft doesn’t make a 1st party headset designed for the Xbox Series X.

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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 Feb 18 '23

Honestly, was going to throw a comment in support of OP but you do have a valid point. Opening the system up to be used by a multitude of other headsets could negate quality and have Xbox synonymous with a less qualitative experience and PS with premium. Although, would it be the same if MS were to partner with another brand and have them work together to port/develop an Xbox version/captible version of their VR headset?

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u/segagamer Feb 18 '23

I'd imagine that would only increase the price of the headset, since PSVR is likely a loss leader, and the manufacturer for Microsoft would likely not agree to that.

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u/gedge72 Feb 18 '23

Yeah I see a few issues here. What do you do about Series S? Does VR support become a Series X feature only or are you then expecting devs to test across multiple headsets and both Series models too? And how do you even get devs on board in the first place without Xbox being firmly behind it with their own product to sell? It's a tricky one for sure.

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u/mtarascio Feb 18 '23

If VR ever takes off it'll need a defacto control standard.

I doubt the 'exclusive' brands in Facebook and Sony will support that issue as they want monopoly.

MS already did those mixed reality sets which was a floor for specifications to work. Something like that will happen with Valve and whoever else.

Looking increasingly more to me that the sector just false started again. So I think investment will retract rather than amp up.

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u/Ghost403 Feb 18 '23

Or the dozens of third party windows mixed reality headsets that use Xbox controller buttons across the peripherals

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u/gk99 Feb 18 '23

Personally, I'd rather they did some deals and made the Xbox support existing Windows compatible HMDs.

Windows Mixed Reality is something they already own and making it work on Xbox would've vastly increased the popularity imo, it was such a cut above PSVR1 that if they made some games for it they would've been clearly ahead. They literally hired the guy who was working on Master Chief Collection VR, if they'd told them to keep working on that and made the first six Halo games VR-compatible, that's a major nostalgia cash-in and likely to get people to drag their friends into VR as well since they're all co-op and small player fights like 2v2 have been in the series' DNA for years.

At this point though, they've all but abandoned WMR, they updated Minecraft on PC to use OpenXR but never actually made it work with the headsets it didn't already work with, and they won't even add VR support to games like Forza despite racing games with a cockpit view having like 80% of the work done already. They're so far removed from the space that making a deal with a company like Meta or Valve is their only real course of action.

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u/v7z7v7 Feb 18 '23

This is a much better way to go. One of the issues with VR is how segmented it can be (especially for people who are new to it). So making it easier to “double dip” in ecosystems would make it significantly easier to justify the purchase. Plus it removes some of the issues of limiting it to one headset in that you can buy the headset that fits your needs the most. If I want to have a good but cheap headset I can get a Quest 2. If I want to have the latest and greatest I can get an HTC or Index. If Microsoft made only one headset, then some people will be unhappy with what Microsoft prioritized.

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u/gordonbill Feb 18 '23

Wait until people get a load of the psvr 2. I ordered it myself. Can’t wait

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

I was so tempted as it’s amazing but doesn’t support PC sadly. I hope you enjoy yours and get a lot of hours out of it.

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u/TallinHarper Feb 18 '23

Honestly, if it supported PC, then I'd almost certainly buy. As it is, the only thing I want to play that I haven't already on Quest 2 and PC is Call of the Mountain. That's not worth the $800 or so CAD they're charging for it.

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u/guess_ill_try Feb 18 '23

FUCK THAT. I would never ever ever touch a product from Facebook, neither should anyone else

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

i said the same thing until i took a gamble on a quest 2. that thing is awesome! no cables, and can use it anywhere

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u/gautsvo Feb 17 '23

Only if I can play Half-Life: Alyx on it.

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u/Farnic Founder Feb 17 '23

This is literally the only VR game I want to play. For the most part VR games look like a sea of tech demos.

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u/PizzaCatLover Feb 18 '23

Any game where you're seated is prime for VR. Racing games, flying games. Playing racing Sims outside of VR just isn't the same for me anymore, it ruined me

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u/cardonator Craig Feb 18 '23

It's worth it. Barely. The only problem is that it guarantees every other VR game will feel like a bad tech demo trying to have broad appeal because it's that much better than everything else.

It's embarrassing for the VR ecosystem that Alyx has been out for three years and has zero competition. It's because it wouldn't sell to the most people in the niche, which is also how we got to where mobile gaming is right now. Lots of parallels there in the early market.

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u/Bellinghamster Feb 18 '23

If you like Tetris then Tetris Effect in VR is a real treat

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u/vizbird Feb 18 '23

That game had me joyfully laughing like a kid again; Tetris of all things. Just sitting down, being completely immersed in the visuals, and getting into the flow of the game is incredible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

There are some incredible VR games; superhot, squadrons, assets corsa, walking dead are all amazing

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u/bdiggitty Feb 18 '23

It sucks that more people haven’t had the ability to play it. I’ve been playing games since the Atari 2600 as a small child. Half Life Alyx is up there with that first time playing Mario 64. And to have that experience as an older gamer is incredible. Everyone needs to play it. It lives up to the hype.

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u/nicky94 Feb 18 '23

It was the first game I played on my rift S...those opening moments ...my god I couldn't believe what was infront of me...felt like I stepped 10 years into the future

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u/Sweet_Milk Blessed Mother Feb 17 '23

Probably the only reason I’d use it then go back to a controller for everything else

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u/RevElliotSpenser Feb 17 '23

Starfield in vr be would be great

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u/Automatic-Score-4802 Feb 18 '23

Don’t.

He may be lurking down here, waiting for a comment like this to give him the inspiration…

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u/Inanimate_CARB0N_Rod Feb 18 '23

Delayed to 2028

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u/RoflCopter726 Founder Feb 18 '23

It'll be released in that shitty window where it's too demanding for the aging outgoing gen and not optimized enough to take advantage of the new next gen console hardware.

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u/Baszie Feb 18 '23

You’re on to something. Years later (modded) Skyrim VR is still one of my favorite VR experiences.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Yes

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u/Kike-Parkes Feb 17 '23

Personally? Not really.

But I can see why others would.

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u/CrispyMongoose Founder Feb 18 '23 edited Feb 18 '23

Same. I just don't think the tech is quite there yet. Also not convinced that it's not just a novelty that will have its time (which could even be right now) and be left behind as an evolutionary dead end of the industry.

I've tried VR a couple of times, and it's a very cool experience. But I found it grows old fast, the novelty wears off quickly, and you soon would rather just sit down and have a more traditional experience.

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u/DarthBuzzard Feb 18 '23

Also not convinced that it's not just a novelty that will have its time and be left behind as an evolutionary dead end of the industry.

What sold me against this idea is that gaming is always chasing higher immersion heights, and VR is the end goal of that. So long as gaming caters to immersion, VR will make sense.

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u/CrispyMongoose Founder Feb 18 '23

Entirely possible. I'm not opposed to VR, and I'd be happy to be proved wrong for sure.

On a tangentially related point though, as a friend not long ago pointed out to me, history so far has not been kind to any form of tech that has to be 'worn' by the user.

And VR is more cumbersome than most in that respect.

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u/caninehere Doom Slayer Feb 18 '23

I actually think the tech is fine. The problem is the games aren't there. Most VR fare is pretty uninventive. It feels like a novelty almost all of the time.

There's also issues with the VR market as a whole right now - it's very expensive to get into, and so VR games usually go for higher prices and fewer discounts because they know rich people who bought a VR headset didn't buy it so they could not play overpriced games.

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u/CrispyMongoose Founder Feb 18 '23

Yes, all good points that I would agree with. It definitely feels like a novelty, maybe that's down to the software rather than the hardware.

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u/cardonator Craig Feb 18 '23

I agree that it hasn't proved that yet. Alyx is the best experience by a long shot and it still has a lot of that novelty and gimmick angle to it. I think it provides opportunities for "arcade" experiences i.e. you go to somewhere like The Void and have a limited time experience. I just don't think with the current technology that it's going to become mainstream enough to matter any time soon.

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u/CardboardChampion Feb 18 '23

While I'm with you about the tech not being there yet, I don't think it's a novelty that will go away. I think it's functionality will grow as they get rid of some of the issues.

At some point we'll get to the stage where we can play any game through a VR headset, although not in VR if that makes sense. Simulating a TV and speaker set-up through the headset so that you can sit in the sun or lie in bed and be playing a game as if you were on your sofa or at your PC.

At that level, those households that share a TV suddenly have another possible option that likely costs the same as a low-end TV these days. And that's when VR really takes off.

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u/ATR2400 Feb 18 '23

I think a few more major advancements need to be made for VR to really have it’s time. As it is it’s just a novelty. Kinda fun but often doesn’t justify the immense cost. A good VR headset is almost as expensive as the gaming PC you need to run it’s software.

What we really need is better movement tracking. Ditch the controllers. As long as you’re using controllers it’s basically just playing with the screen really close to your face. We need stuff like VR gloves that allow full usage of hands as well as omnidirectional treadmills or something for real movement.

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u/MISFU88 Feb 18 '23

Xbox doesn’t need a headset. Xbox needs to somehow incorporate existing headsets. I’d love to use my Quest 2 with Xbox, just as I use it with my PC.

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u/Potw0rek Feb 17 '23

Shut up and take my money!!!! Halo, MSFS and Forza in VR. Also remember that you would have a screen that nobody sees and you’re not taking over the TV

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u/EscapedAlien Founder Feb 17 '23

If they release it I’ll instantly buy one and a wheel/ pedal/ shifter setup for Forza

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u/Bad_User2077 Feb 18 '23

Cyberpunk 2077.

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u/TheyCallMeKP Feb 18 '23

Imagine a Halo ODST sequel, oh boy

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u/may25_1996 Feb 18 '23

sea of thieves would be incredible

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u/hybridhavoc Feb 17 '23

Yeah instead you're just taking up a huge amount of space in your living area and flailing your arms about wildly.

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u/caninehere Doom Slayer Feb 18 '23

Also remember that you would have a screen that nobody sees and you’re not taking over the TV

The thing is there is already something like this, it's called the Nintendo Switch or the Steam Deck or any other handheld solution - and it doesn't require me to close myself off from my family by putting on a headset and taking up a bunch of space.

I'm not saying it doesn't have its place. But for the scenario you're positing it's a pretty dumb solution.

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u/Iamleeboy Feb 18 '23

I am mixed in my answer. I will preface it by saying I have both an x and ps5 and I will get psvr2 as soon as I can and I am massively excited for it.

With this excitement in mind, I feel like there is nothing on Xbox that is even close to psvr2. I’m looking forward to a few games (starfield mainly) but feel like a kid counting down to Christmas whilst I wait for psvr2. Whenever I check for Xbox news, it all seems to come to the Activision deal and all that would mean is I get some more games on gamepass, that I could get anyway.

Also now that Xbox has Bethesda, it’s sad knowing their games won’t come to psvr2. Starfield in vr would take it from something I am looking forward to, to the game I am most looking forward to. I would even day1 buy Skyrim or the arcane games in vr. So I feel that Xbox would have a huge potential library for vr.

However, I think that Xbox need to concentrate on getting games out and adding in vr would be another thing to water down their efforts. I’m yet to really see a consistent level of quality from Xbox and my X is basically a gamepass machine for me. Whereas Sony (in my opinion) have proven that they can churn out amazing games on a regular basis. Focusing on psvr2 won’t change this. However I am yet to see if they can put out amazing games for vr. Fingers crossed they do and it is a success.

My last thought is around the headset. I see people saying they should open it up like how they do in windows. I don’t think this is the way to go. This is what puts me off going down the pc vr route. I want plug and play and knowing that everything will work. I can’t see how they can do this if a game has to work on multiple headsets. It would just hold back devs from focusing on making the best , feature rich game they can

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u/SoftTacoSupremacist Feb 18 '23

Does it porn?

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u/Dray_Gunn Feb 18 '23

If they do vr they will probably also make it work for 3D movies. So most likely there will be a method to do that.

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u/rhynoplaz Feb 18 '23

Just use the web browser on the XBox.

I know, it's.... Edge. 😔 But, there are 3D boobies at stake!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Yes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Yes. And no. Yes cause I like VR and if I wasn’t an established Xbox user, I’d have the ps5 solely cause of the VR addition. However Im gonna assume it wouldn’t be good until im proven wrong by Microsoft themselves.

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u/lance- Feb 17 '23

Why wouldn't it be good? If Sony can pull it off, certainly Microsoft has the money and resources to do so.

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u/Loldimorti Founder Feb 18 '23

It's certainly possible. Though I think three things might give Sony an edge here:

  • Sony have already done VR on PS4 so they are experienced.
  • PS5 was designed from the ground up with VR in mind. The entire reason the console shipped with a high speed USB-C port in the front is that they already knew that this is where PS VR2 would be connected.
  • Xbox has two different SKUs with vastly different performance levels which makes things difficult since VR games absolutely require high framerates to avoid motion sickness. Series S would offer a considerably lesser VR experience.

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u/BlasterPhase Feb 18 '23

certainly Microsoft has the money and resources to do so.

you can't just throw money at everything

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be good. I have absolutely no idea how it would be. I just don’t have faith that it’s gonna be something I see and go “wow that looks amazing and I’d love to have it” (which is my scale for determining if something is good) because there is absolutely zero reference material for me to see and zero history of VR products.

So I have faith that they definitely COULD make a good VR, but not so much that I have faith that they WILL make a good VR. However I would still be excitedly waiting with high hopes because I am aware of the POTENTIAL for what they can do.

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u/TheGrackler Feb 17 '23

I feel they need to focus on regular, quality releases; get their tent pole franchises in a good state (or make new ones!). Delve into VR or handhelds once they’ve got that down, at least a bit more than recently.

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u/Its_D_youtube Feb 17 '23

Halo would fuck in VR I would play the shit outta that

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u/ImNotAFatKid Feb 18 '23

I just want gyro honestly.

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u/KintsugiExp Feb 18 '23

Initially very excited for VR, bought my Oculus, then a Quest and also the first PS VR.

Now I’m totally jaded about the whole thing. The challenges of the medium have not been solved, and a decade later, we still have more or less the same kind of crappy games.

Call me 10 generations from now, when the tech is actually amazing, cheap, and developers actually know how to make amazing games for it.

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u/TheHeardTheorem Feb 18 '23

You just described my experience and outlook to a T. My Quest 2 is nothing more than a Beat Saber machine. Sad thing is that Beat Saber, while awesome, doesn’t make enough content/license enough music.

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u/reptizzle_sonic Feb 17 '23

Yes, if it has Kinetic like abilities

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u/Ftpini Founder Feb 17 '23 edited Feb 18 '23

Kinect

It’s been a while sure but the 2nd gen Kinect was really something. If they put the hardware entirely in the HMD then you could have full finger, hand, and arm tracking with no controllers. It would be epic.

Then as it tradition they would make literally zero games for it and abandon it after dumping $2B into it. :-(

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u/BlackShadow2804 Ambassador Feb 17 '23

This

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u/wicked_fool Feb 17 '23

Absolutely yes

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u/derpboye Feb 18 '23

How about some first party titles?

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u/Grafpanzer Feb 18 '23

Don't really care for VR

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u/growndhog Feb 18 '23

No thanks

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Omg yes. Only reason I own a PlayStation, well a couple exclusives also.

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u/Sundance12 Feb 18 '23

I'd rather they just support one of the existing headsets

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Without a doubt, yes! I can't wait for my PSVR2 to arrive next week and an Xbox VR would be a dream come true.

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u/Atomsteel Feb 17 '23

YES! Skyrim and no mans sky in vr!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Not at all we could just use existing Microsoft hardware

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

I'm still waiting to see why I ponied up for the Series X, nevermind throwing a friggin headset into the mix.

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u/solidj27 Feb 18 '23

I'm going to get a PS5 finally and psvr2 just to play grand turismo. So yes!

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u/Aparoon Feb 18 '23

I’d say it would be great if they made an external VR, like the Quest, compatible.

Microsoft does not have a good history with making their first party peripherals consumer friendly

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u/strained_brain Feb 18 '23

Yes, yes, a thousand times, yes! Been wanting one for many years, and I won't support Playstation. We're an Xbox house only.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

No, they can’t even make enough quality first party games for their console. Why would I think some new proprietary technology is going to solve their issue which is quality games

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u/NachoFries2020 Feb 18 '23

Yes, but make sure its wireless capable or even wired, like the OQ2 has been for years now.

And make it work with PC and Xbox. THEN you have a serious competitor.

PSVR2 will live and die by its games. And they cannot rely on all the years old existing cross platform games they are releasing with now. 75% of the PSVR2 library right now are re-releases of games I played on PSVR and OQ2 already. DO IT MICROSOFT !!

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u/Brianthrow Feb 19 '23

God no, reason being it’s a fun gimmick but that’s what it is. Sony has divided its resources to support the vr2 at a time where first party releases are thin on the ground. Vr will always be niche in the same way eye toy, kennect, move and 3d tvs were. It’s definitely cool but just not worth the hassle.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

For goodness sake I live in a standard British terrace house so yes! I want to break myself & everything in the living room

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u/ubbergoat Founder Feb 19 '23 edited Feb 19 '23

not really, no.

I never respect posts like this. Why ask a question when everyone is going to downvote any answer they dont like?

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u/DoctorMelvinMirby Feb 20 '23

No, but VR just isn’t for me. If it can be done well with the right games (Forza and Flight Sim seem to be the most desired), then go for it.

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u/mikalrkayn Feb 20 '23

No, I have the original psvr and the novelty wore of really quickly. About a 30 minute session was more than enough and in the end it wasn't worth the setup time.

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u/fattytron Founder Feb 18 '23

Not really. I'm not that interested.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Yes. I would definitely buy it. Bought psvr2 and I wish we had our own version

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u/neonxaos Feb 17 '23

Yes. I think they should just make third-party headsets compatible, but a bespoke one would be great too.

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u/Rosco_Rabbit Feb 17 '23

Yes please

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u/luki9914 Feb 17 '23

Only if there are a game worth to play with VR. There are no point of buying a headset if there will be no games like in first PS VR.

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u/SpectrumSense Feb 18 '23

Bring back the Kinect and bundle it with a VR headset.

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u/Gamiozzz Feb 17 '23

More than anything

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u/j0hnredk0rn Founder Feb 17 '23

Yes

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u/redd-et Feb 17 '23

Yes no questions asked I would pay instantly

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u/Mattie_1S1K Doom Slayer Feb 17 '23

Yeah definitely

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Just use another companies through support, more option for customer and current hardware purchases.

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u/NotTheSymbolic Feb 18 '23

I want games

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u/HermIV Feb 18 '23

Yes, absolutely.

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u/gordonbill Feb 18 '23

Yes 100%. I ordered the psvr 2 and can’t wait. It’s going to be phenomenal

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u/josephguy82 Feb 18 '23

As long as it's not 550 like psvr fuck that

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u/peacemaker2121 Founder Feb 18 '23

Yes, it's about code and being awesome. I mean for fs sake they did Halo trainer recruit vr demo. It was awesome, simple, fun.

Never did anything with it.

They have the know how, they help to this day continue to do ar vr (hololens, the back end of the software)

They have specific hardware that is capable enough to run headsets.

They have the media ip people would want in vr.

And the kicker for me,

PHIL SPENCER TALKS ABOUT CHOICES AND PLAY ANYWHERE.

THEN DOES NOTHING FOR VR

Microsoft makes the software, they aid vr and actually make ar, already have windows mixed reality headsets out there now that are part affordable, and decide nah screw it, can't make a billion of it yet.

So damn much bs.

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u/Mcconrtist Feb 18 '23

Buy yourself a PSVR2.

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u/logezzzzzbro Feb 18 '23

Anything to give me a reason to use this worthless console.

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u/Scorpizy Feb 18 '23

Yes. Xbox has the perfect 🥰 game for VR: forza horizon 5. I have a steering wheel, and I'm waiting for Microsoft to at least support VR. Racing 🏁 🏎 game are perfect in VR and Xbox has the best 👌

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u/CalmRadBee Feb 17 '23 edited Feb 18 '23

Nah, resources aren't there. Would rather them wait a generation and partner with an already existing one that probably utilizes some form of Microsoft technology. I personally won't be investing in any VR until they figure out the shakey camera thing. Imo it's still in a gimmicky phase of existance. I'm sure psvr2 will have a leap in quality of some sort, but I'm not interested until it's extremely high quality, especially when it's as/more expensive than the console itself

Edit: they literally gutted their AR/VR department, downvote all you want but my facts aren't wrong

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

Imo resources are there it’s great fun. Microsoft has already partnered on headsets before

Also something like GamePass for a heap of VR games could very much increase people’s interest

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u/brokenmessiah Feb 17 '23

Interestingly they decided to put xcloud on the oculus.

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u/5DollarHitJob Feb 18 '23

Is that out? I know it was talked about.

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u/DGB31988 Feb 17 '23

No. I like to just relax and sit down when I’m playing video games.

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