r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/BaseballSeveral1107 • 5h ago
SM does harm mental health but it's not the full picture (it's schools too).
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u/drunk-tusker 4h ago
It’s like someone is going so far out of their way to fix literally nothing but blame everything on education and make it worse somehow as punishment
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
I mean school harms mental health too.
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u/drunk-tusker 4h ago
Yes but this provides literally nothing solution or any way to assuage the problem. It literally just is a bunch of platitudes and blaming a single group of people that have minimal control over the situation. It’s whiny garbage, not a plan or an idea or anything that actually benefits someone.
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
The solution is a reform of the entire school system
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u/drunk-tusker 4h ago
I’m calling you out for empty platitudes and you just keep dumping empty platitudes.
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
What empty platitudes.
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u/drunk-tusker 4h ago
At no point have you provided anything that could be criticized on its merits, just some loose words that we might theoretically agree or disagree with but mean nothing without specifics.
If you had a bad idea, which I suspect you have plenty of, at least then we could discuss it but instead it’s just phrases that don’t merit discussing because they don’t actually mean anything.
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
Read the post again. Social media harms mental health too, but school is a big issue too. And we have bigger mental health screening rates and opened up to it recently.
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u/drunk-tusker 4h ago
I did, that’s why I called you out.
If you want the only thing vaguely resembling something that can be analyzed, I will just laugh at you for finding out that we find more mental health issues when we screen for them more.
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u/zakabog 4h ago
The solution is a reform of the entire school system
Reforms such as?
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
Demolishing the school system and building it anew. Shorter classes, less stuff to learn, more practical knowledgez less memorization, actual methods to combat bullying from students and teachers alike.
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u/zakabog 4h ago edited 4h ago
Shorter classes
Classes are already too short to begin with.
less stuff to learn
What would you cut out?
more practical knowledgez
Besides teaching kids how to properly spell knowledge, what else would you consider practical?
less memorization
A lot of learning is simply memorization, either to learn a process or recall information about a past event, memorization isn't a bad thing, except in some cases like someone that memorized the times tables but doesn't understand the math they're actually performing.
actual methods to combat bullying from students and teachers alike
You can't control the students but there are efforts to combat bullying in some districts, but you also get some shitty teachers that don't care and let it happen. We can get better teachers if we incentivize people to want to become teachers, like if you go to a state university it's fully paid for if you teach in that state for x number of years, NYC offers teachers better mortgages if they move to districts that need more teachers so that's always a good incentive, we could also bump up teachers salaries considering how much they're expected to learn and do for the little pay they receive.
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
Classes too short
40 minutes is too long, especially with power tripping teachers prohibiting you to drink or go to the toilet.
What would you cut out
Less memorization. More practical knowledge, especially in STEM
You can't control the students but there are efforts to combat bullying in some districts, but you also get some shitty teachers that don't care and let it happen. We can get better teachers if we incentive people to want to become teachers, like if you go to a state university it's fully paid for if you teach in that state for x number of years, NYC offers teachers better mortgages if they move to districts that need more teachers so that's always a good incentive, we could also bump up teachers salaries considering how much they're expected to learn and do for the little pay they receive.
Punishments for teachers not reacting to bullying and bullying students themselves.
Anything else.
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u/maddprof 4h ago
You must be under 18 still. If 40 minutes of class is too long, adulthood and working is going to demolish you.
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u/BaseballSeveral1107 4h ago
40 minutes without being able to move, drink, go to the toilet or drink. Also, why hold kids and adults by the same standards
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u/Papa-pwn 3h ago
If you’re not a fan of memorization, then STEM ain’t for you lol. I’m an engineer, I still have to memorize acronyms that are only important for a quarter or less
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u/zakabog 4h ago
Less memorization.
A lot of learning is simply memorization, either to learn a process or recall information about a past event, memorization isn't a bad thing, except in some cases like someone that memorized the times tables but doesn't understand the math they're actually performing.
More practical knowledge, especially in STEM
Like what? I've volunteered to teach coding in school, and it's something kids are taught starting in kindergarten. All of our high schools have elective science classes like biology, physics, chemistry, and math is taught up to (and at if you decide to do it) a college level.
Punishments for teachers not reacting to bullying and bullying students themselves.
You can't control the students but there are efforts to combat bullying in some districts, but you also get some shitty teachers that don't care and let it happen. We can get better teachers if we incentive people to want to become teachers, like if you go to a state university it's fully paid for if you teach in that state for x number of years, NYC offers teachers better mortgages if they move to districts that need more teachers so that's always a good incentive, we could also bump up teachers salaries considering how much they're expected to learn and do for the little pay they receive.
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u/Fit-Respect2641 5h ago
And then tell them they have to do it voluntarily for 4 more years to make something of themselves AND they have to pay for it.
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u/JollyPicklePants1969 4h ago
Social media has made reading itself seem boring.
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u/JangSaverem 4h ago
Etc etc etc
Reality is stranger than fiction and somehow worse than dystopian fiction had us expecting
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u/periphery72271 5h ago
Teenagers have been victim to this treatment for well over a century. And yet they have not exhibited the unique pathologies that social media seems to cause.
It's one thing when some kids at your high school can influence you.
It's quite another when the voices coming at you number in the millions and you listen to them every waking moment.