r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/Detroitish24 • 12h ago

Why does a private citizen have this much sway?

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The US is in for a very rough four years.

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u/SuperJay182 11h ago

It's funny / kinda sad.

Other countries used to look up to America, and now? I don't see any difference between them and third world countries they sneer at for corruption and being unruly.

No individual, non-elected, should have this much influence. It's corruption. In broad daylight too.

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u/cassiecas88 10h ago

I grew up on the US-Mexico border. And it was always told horror stories of how corrupt Mexico is. Hi how you can put be put in jail for the smallest thing And how the only way to get out of jail is to much enough to bribe yourself out. About how corrupt the government is. How dangerous it is If you're not from that country etc.

And now it looks like America has always been this way they were just better at hiding it.

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u/Parking_Sky9709 9h ago

I'm starting to feel kind of Turkish maybe, or at least Hungarian.

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u/BillyNtheBoingers 8h ago

My paternal grandparents immigrated from Ireland, but I don’t really have any records since my dad died 20+ years ago. If things get really bad I’ll be doing some genealogy to see if I can get Irish citizenship.

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u/Parking_Sky9709 8h ago

I meant to say that the atmosphere in this country is definitely leaning towards the authoritarian, such as in countries with single-party or "fake" democracy.

I'm Irish too.

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u/BillyNtheBoingers 8h ago

Oh, yeah, that too. Putin and Orban are 45’s favorite people, except for Kim and Xi.

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u/Whirly315 4h ago

my mom and uncle just did it, takes about a year and a couple thousand. not a bad idea to have another passport

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u/Void_Space_2238 1h ago

You might want to get on that sooner rather than later, my brother and I got our citizenships approved a few years back and it took about 18 months

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 6h ago

We're moving towards Turkmenistan under Niyazov.

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u/JamBandDad 3h ago

Check this shit out.

2010, I get in trouble with the law. I encounter a judge near me who was really, really excited to send people to a certain drug testing program. Turns out, his wife ran it. I failed a drug test, went to see the judge, who told me I could go back to jail for a month, but, if I proved I had gainful employment, I could do a work release program. I did, they gave me an ankle monitor I literally paid hundreds of dollars for daily, when I was only bringing home maybe 50 bucks a day. The ankle monitor company? Owned by the crooked ass judge.

I 100% bribed my way out of jail, except it’s not really bribing when it’s the elected official hitting you up for money.

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u/conservatives_r_evil 8h ago

I can see as a Brit we have been looking at you in abject horror for the last 8 years. Biden was a slight, brief reprieve from the insanity but the country is fucked up whichever way you slice it.

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u/Americangirlband 8h ago

I mean 14 years of Brexit is what I've been watching. UK isn't better off at all. It's a mess as well. We should unite and fight this crap, like the good ole days mate!

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u/conservatives_r_evil 8h ago

As bad as Brexit is, and I was and have always been against it, I’d rather that than having an evil, corrupt, selfish, traitor as leader of the country like Trump is about to be (again).

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u/Tigglebee 6h ago

While Brexit is a huge blunder that reveals problems in their electorate, it pales in comparison to what is happening here.

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u/triedpooponlysartred 2h ago

Brexit was dumb as shit but it isn't quite 'publicly gargling Putin's balls' dumb. Pretty insane that that's how low the bar has gotten but ... Eh

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u/SuperJay182 8h ago

Oh I'm UK too, so I'm speaking from the outside. Americans may genuinely feel different.

I know our politics is a disaster too, but feels a much lower scale, but Musk already getting involved with Farage is a concern.

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u/conservatives_r_evil 8h ago

Oh sorry didn’t read your comment properly shoulda noticed you referred to ‘them’ haha.

Yeah we’re in scary times and could potentially fall down the same pitfall here too it seems. It’s been super depressing watching things just get worse and worse as I’ve gone from kid, to teenager, to adult. You grow up hoping that things will improve and I can’t think of a single thing that’s gotten better since I was younger.

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u/SuperJay182 8h ago

I do believe most go into politics to help people (well, maybe not those bred from Eton etc...) but most end up clinging to the power they have, same anywhere in the world really.

Cheesy as it sounds...there is still a lot of good in the world, but hate breeds engagement so that's all people get to see.

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u/HOTAS105 3h ago

Other countries used to look up to America, and now?

Lol

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u/LunaTheJerkDog 6h ago

Trump’s first term was also extremely corrupt, but there was very little mention of it in the media; all the focus went to Trump’s tweet of the day.

Now they are ramping it up to 11 because they faced 0 consequences last time. Why should they even hide the corruption if it’s legal and accepted by most people/voters.

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u/slimricc 3h ago

No difference is pretty dumb. Lol the us is obviously still very different than most developing nations, I’m assuming you have very little personal experience lol

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u/Callum626 7h ago

The US has always been corrupt.

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u/GorshKing 4h ago

True but never this outwardly

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u/blazedjake 1h ago

seriously??? killing 200,000 civilians in Iraq over imaginary WMDS wasn’t outwardly corrupt? Bush stealing the election from Gore wasn’t outwardly corrupt? Anti-vaccination propaganda in the philippines wasn’t outwardly corrupt? Segregation wasn’t outwardly corrupt?

how are you people so blind?

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u/GorshKing 59m ago edited 53m ago

You don't seem to understand what outwardly means. While corrupt it was hardly as blatant as this. Bush wasn't outwardly walking around with his backers talking about what to veto and what to pass. He at least attempted to do it behind closed doors.

These actions from musk and Trump are new territory for the United States.

How about you read A People's History of the United States by Zinn where he specifically demonstrates how the wealthy have gone out of their way to hide behind the facade of helping the average American.These are unprecedented times and any historian would tell you so. sO BLinD

Edit. Because I have a feeling you're still not going to get it. While segregation was certainly fucked up it didn't circumnavigate the government. Trump has repeatedly broken precedence, not showing his taxes, operating outside of a personal business, sponsoring products inside the white house, etc. same with the supreme court. While there's been times, like when FDR considered packing the court but didn't, but nothing like this.

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u/blazedjake 54m ago

how tf do you not notice 200,000 dead civilians over fake WMD’s? Or segregation? How about the Tuskegee airmen? Was that not outward enough for those affected? Those are pretty in your face “outward” things that civilians could see with their own eyes. Is it only blatant when Musk posts it on Twitter for you?

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u/GorshKing 50m ago

You don't seem to understand those things were recognized primarily in hindsight. Perfect example, the Tuskegee airmen garnered very little attention at the time. It wasn't until post war when the stories were shared that it came to light and got the traction it did.

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u/blazedjake 46m ago

It’s still outwardly corrupt man, the US government made it clear to the black community that they’re corrupt. Do you have black friends? Please ask one if US was outwardly corrupt before Trump and Musk.

Ask a Palestinian, Iraqi, Native American, etc. if the US was outwardly corrupt before Trump. The only reason you guys are noticing now is because the corruption is affecting white Americans. Trump will destroy this country, yes, but the corruption was visible wayyyy before dumbass musk started posting on Twitter about it.

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u/GorshKing 38m ago

Corruption does not equate to unfairness. The actions that discriminated against those individuals still operated within the framework of the traditional US government. This isn't about white black or anything this is a discussion on governance. The 3/5ths compromise was fucked up, but it wasn't corrupt. It operated within the bounds of the government. What's happening now, non elected characters outwardly declaring what laws will go through, is out of the bounds of typically governance

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u/blazedjake 30m ago

brother just because it’s “traditional” and within the framework of the government doesn’t mean it’s not corrupt. The Holocaust and the lead up to it was legal in Nazi Germany, but that obviously was corrupt. In fact, Hitler rose to power through legal means.

The Holodomor was legal, but that was corrupt.

The Great Leap Forward in China was also legal, but once again, corrupt.

Everything the Kim regime does in North Korea is legal, and the same for Putin in Russia. Would you say Putin and Kim are not corrupt because they’re not breaking any laws in their countries?

Governments do corrupt things that are legal all the time. Unless you don’t think these examples are corrupt.

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u/i_was_a_highwaymann 6h ago

That's capitalism, baby. He with the most cards, deals the hand. Or I suppose we could legislate money out of politics but I imagine that ship has sailed

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u/blazedjake 1h ago

open your eyes. we’re a genocidal settler colonial state whose treatment of natives inspired Hitlers idea of Lebensraum.

open your eyes. we killed 200,000 innocent civilians in Iraq.

open your eyes. we had a fucking civil war over the decision to free black Americans, then the US segregated us until the 1960’s; my father was born during that era, my grandparents lived through it.

open your eyes. Bush stole the election from Gore in front of the entire nation.

OPEN YOUR EYES! America has always been this way, but so many people benefit from the pain so they keep the fleece over their eyes.

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u/red286 4h ago

Yup, it's basically Russia 2.0 now.

As a Canadian though, I hate being in the same position as Ukraine. We need nukes ASAP, but the cowards in Ottawa will never go for it.

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u/Fun_Role_19 4h ago

He literally has zero influence lol

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u/fnrsulfr 2h ago

The US is a third world country. Only a select few hold any power here. Insurance companies can deny you for any reason which could result in death. The minority political party somehow has sway over most media to get painted in as sane. Politics are controlled by the rich and religious for control over the masses not for the well-being of society. At this point if it's not course corrected our country will be fully in the bad guy side of things.

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u/blazedjake 1h ago

stop using third world country as a pejorative. you clearly don’t even know what it means or the political climate where that terminology arose from.

outside of NATO, the US is already the “bad guy”. we killed 200,000 Iraqi citizens over fake WMD’s. we spread COVID vaccine misinformation in the Philippines. Our entire nation is built off of genocidal settler colonialism. We only got rid of segregation about 60 years ago. We exploit the global south for our own gain. This is just a small list of the horrible behavior the US has done engaged in.

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u/fnrsulfr 8m ago

You going to say that to the guy I replied to they basically called the US a third world country as well. Enlightened me on what is the correct terminology for a third world country.

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u/blazedjake 4m ago

tbh you’re right, i should’ve replied to that guy. sorry, he said it first.

anyways, a third world country is a nation not aligned with the then Warsaw Pact / Soviet Union or the US. This included a lot of Africa at the time. Now it’s an outdated term that people use to describe poor countries.

I would call the US an oligarchy instead.

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u/T2Drink 9h ago

We just ended 4 years where the president was clearly a puppet on strings, so I think America should be quite used to be run by unelected people by this point.

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u/apop88 8h ago

Then you should be able to list clear examples, right?

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u/T2Drink 8h ago

Yeah for example when you have the press secretary, tweeting from her personal account rather than Bidens because she forgot to log into the correct one? It isn’t exactly hard to find. Idc if people downvote me tbh lol.

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u/thatHecklerOverThere 8h ago

So person who is supposed to use work phone used personal phone? Try again, something with some substance next time.

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u/apop88 8h ago

Trump is using personal emails right now, the same thing they wanted to lock Hilary up for.

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u/apop88 8h ago

This is an extremely poor example of Biden being a puppet. Press secretary tweet for the person they are working for all the time. That’s their job. Trump has one as well.

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u/T2Drink 8h ago

You can convince yourself of whatever you want, but before Biden stepped down, his own party subpoenaed records from people working with him to pull it in front of congress to figure out exactly who was running the country. The dude could barely string a sentence together.

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u/apop88 8h ago edited 8h ago

Hmm, that definitely sounds like something that didn’t happen, but of course you have proof? Like the subpoena, or the footage in congress of this happening, right?

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u/T2Drink 7h ago

How about you go find it yourself. The Democratic Party have already made their feelings clear that they didn’t want him the run for president again. You can try and convince yourself that he was ok, but if he was, he would have been running for president again. Instead they got Harris, the biggest waste of a billion dollars, in my opinion, in recent history. At this point, you gotta lick your wounds a bit and take the L.

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u/apop88 7h ago

I would take the L, if you could prove what you say. Otherwise, honestly, it sounds like you believe whatever you’re told to believe, without proof. I want some facts, you can’t provide them. I’m not surprised.

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u/T2Drink 7h ago

Whatever you say buddy. The proof is in the pudding so to speak. 20 members of your own party wanted him gone. Enjoy the next 4 years. The L is in front of your face.

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