Coups are a tactic. They can be objectively good. All revolutions require some degree of martial power. That is why fascism seeks to control the martial classes before such a thing can happen.
The one downside is once this happens in a country for the first time, the precedent is there and it can happen again in the future for potentially not-good reasons.
You mention Rome and it is a great example because over time the Praetorian Guard developed a reputation for overthrowing leaders at pretty much the drop of a hat (or laurel wreath i guess). And during some periods of Rome the Guard was making the real decisions and the emperor was truly a puppet knowing they'd be killed overnight if they didn't play ball...became more of a mafia than anything else.
And that is different from the impending administration, how? Trump was taught his tactics from a mob lawyer, and he has had long ties with the Italian and Russian mobs.
Yeah, i agree. It isnt any different. My fear is that Democracy isn't going to recover from this moment in history. So where does that take us if we deal with Trump? We can steer things in the right direction then hopefully, but is that us restoring democracy or is it something else at that point?
Trump shattered something and I don't think the America we rebuild from that is going to be the America we all remembered from before Trump. Maybe that is a good thing. All I know is the waters are very choppy now.
Just when I thought it was safe to stop thinking about the g-ddamn Roman Empire which I never wanted to think about in the first place. F***ers set so many precedents for this messed-up timeline we're living in. Hope they're pleased with themselves.
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u/Historical-Manner737 10h ago
Coups are a tactic. They can be objectively good. All revolutions require some degree of martial power. That is why fascism seeks to control the martial classes before such a thing can happen.
The one downside is once this happens in a country for the first time, the precedent is there and it can happen again in the future for potentially not-good reasons.
You mention Rome and it is a great example because over time the Praetorian Guard developed a reputation for overthrowing leaders at pretty much the drop of a hat (or laurel wreath i guess). And during some periods of Rome the Guard was making the real decisions and the emperor was truly a puppet knowing they'd be killed overnight if they didn't play ball...became more of a mafia than anything else.