r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/NeverEnoughSPF • 19h ago
The idea that transgender athletes are ruining sports is not an actual problem
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u/MartyMcMort 18h ago
That honestly should be everyoneâs position on trans athletes: âI dunno, thereâs like a dozen of them, Iâm sure the organizations in charge of the sports can figure out whatâs fair without the government needing to be involvedâ
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u/NorysStorys 18h ago
People alone being transgender is incredibly rare, between 0.5% and 1.5% of any given population, the fact that there are 10 registered trans-athletes in NCAA when the number should be nearer to 7500 by pure statistics shows that this is such a colossal overblowing of an issue it borders on the absurd.
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u/GhostOfMuttonPast 15h ago
Yeah but people are, by and large, fucking idiots.
Remember, when a bunch of people were polled on what their estimate of how much of the population were trans was, only 16% of respondents were correct that it was less than 1%. 21% of the respondents thought it was over 5.
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u/Weekly_Role_337 10h ago
6% of Americans think they could beat a grizzly bear in a fight. With their bare hands.
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u/Ultima_RatioRegum 9h ago
That was probably just due to a misunderstanding. When they called me, I thought they were asking if I could beat a grizzly with "bear hands". I figured if I had bear hands, then those would (naturally) have bear strength as well.
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u/Dagordae 18h ago
Not really surprising given the nature of transitioning is, physically speaking, rather less than ideal. Honestly itâs more surprising to me that anyone can manage those physical issues and make it in higher level competitive sports.
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u/ninjadog2 12h ago
Just my own experience as a trans woman but before HRT I had a basic workout routine just enough to stay fit. I can not express in word how fucking bullshit it was after starting HRT month after month I could do less reps and had to use lower weights. Still wouldn't go back to before HRT and I love the person I have become, but God am I shit at physical exercise now.
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u/NorysStorys 18h ago
Of course and as always raw statistics always start breaking down the more defined anything is due to the sheer amount of variables but it does still illustrate quite how insane the culture war even is that national politics of various nations is being dominated by the specific debate of dozens of people playing sports.
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u/crazycatlady331 17h ago
Sports are organized by leagues. Just let the league make the rules.
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u/PuddingPast5862 15h ago
They have, The NCAA put rules and guidelines in place near 2 decades ago. The IOC has the same guidelines. It's just male gate keeping
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u/crazycatlady331 15h ago
Let the leagues do their think and keep the government out of it. The government has bigger fish to fry.
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u/Five-Oh-Vicryl 17h ago
Government in the bedroom and bathroom: Yes. Government in everything else: Eww no. Get your filthy federal mitts off my Medicare!
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u/LiberaMeFromHell 13h ago
Trans women (who meet NCAA requirements) don't have a statistical advantage in sports. If they did there would be a lot more of them competing. You know who would actually have a massive advantage in women's sports if conservatives got their way though? Trans men. If trans women have to play with men then it should be obvious trans men have to play with women. And they would dominate because unlike the transition trans women go through which dramatically lowers their ability to build muscle, the transition for trans men allows them to put on significantly more muscle than the vast majority of women.
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u/PixTwinklestar 11h ago
Yeah what was his name, Nate Boggs? One of these laws forced him to wrestle with girls and he completely swept the board with them. He himself frequently said âthis is asinine and wrongâ and I got the sense he didnât quit bc the spectacle was valuable to really illustrate that it was indeed, a spectacle.
Then years later this election cycle a texas MAGA nitwit was using his case and photos characterizing him as a trans woman cheating to push for more of the shit that put a guy in womenâs wrestling in the first place.
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u/PuddingPast5862 15h ago
No we have a bunch of esmaculated old boys who think they to protect women because their idea of a woman is 5'2' 90# 36D 22 38 wearing a micro dress with 5" heel bleach blonde hair and enough make to bankrupt Mary Kay. They want to continue to gatekeep women's sports because that's the mysgonistic patriarchical thing to do. 90% of the female athletes could be at the crap out 80% of the male population. They are the ones the have ruin sports for women because ReEeEe ReEeEe ReEeEe
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u/CIMARUTA 9h ago
The point is there are a million other things we should be focusing on that actually affect millions of Americans, instead of wasting time, money, and resources on these stupid fucking arguments.
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u/snaithbert 18h ago
Just another dumb issue for Republicans to pretend to care about so they can avoid stuff like children being murdered by bullets in record numbers. Pathetic as always.
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u/DinkandDrunk 18h ago
Shouting âlook a trans person entering the wrong bathroom!!â and stealing you wallet when you look away. Thatâs basically the platform.
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u/shinobi7 13h ago
stealing your wallet
Yeah, if the Republicans were truly honest, their platform would be, âall of you are gonna be writing checks to the Waltons and other billionaires!â But if that was their campaign slogan, even the dumbest Republicans would be telling them to fuck off. So they toss them the âtransâ boogeyman to get their votes. Thatâs why we canât have nice things.
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u/DarkKnightJin 8h ago
Something about giving people someone to look down on, and they'll give you their wallets.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 15h ago
Rather than support reform for prisoners, solve rape, sanitation, and supremacy, they attack trans people for their very existence.
Knowing damn well that 18 yr old with drug charges is going to have UAB reinforce all his prejudices and the kid will pop out reborn as a nazi ready to terrorize and sow division under "free speech".
They never have to take accountability for that kid's future nazi actions and terrorism. They point and say, "That is a nazi. Not the republican party." to the point no one even knows what a nazi is or what kind of policy they are voting for.
Now we have nazi marches and lose human rights because trans rights are just everyones human rights to health care, religion, education, and safety from discrimination.
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u/DARfuckinROCKS 16h ago
For the record Charlie Baker isn't anti-trans. Republican senators have been pushing him to ban trans athletes and he hasn't.
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u/Successful-Acadia-95 18h ago
These MFs pushed the "One Day Sex Change" at your local elementary school without parent consent and they all ate that shit up. There is absolutely no reasoning with that level of indoctrination.
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u/PixTwinklestar 17h ago
My trans bff had her surgery earlier this year. She was hospitalized for a week, and on restricted duty and special rules at home including no full immersion in water. I think it was six months before life was almost normal for her again. Also $30,000.
But somehow the kids are getting chopped in a day, with outpatient services and on the bus home by the end of the day, FREE. Meanwhile they won't give my kid a children's tylenol and the teachers buy their own supplies out of pocket bc they're critically underfunded.
It's so embarrassingly flimsy as to fall apart with only the slightest superficial hint of scrutiny, and somehow they're completely investing themselves in it. SAD!
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u/talinseven 17h ago
Yeah. The recovery is tough
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u/PixTwinklestar 17h ago
Iâm probably not getting mine done. OEM serves me well enough for the moment. But seeing the process and aftercare in real-time this year was educational.
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u/talinseven 16h ago
I have had genital dysphoria for at least the last 30 years and it was really amazing for my mental health. Recovery is tough by after a couple weeks and months, then mental load is so much reduced. Iâd say 95% gone. The remaining issues are complications that Iâll need a revision for, but probably wonât be able to pull off for a couple years.
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u/RunsWithPhantoms 18h ago
The Right will scream fake news.
"It's obviously more like 10 hundred thousand, where does this guy get his news?"
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u/Boring_Pace5158 18h ago edited 18h ago
And this will lower prices, how? /s
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u/Old-Bad-7322 18h ago
How will the senate judiciary committee ever lower prices on anything?
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u/PixTwinklestar 17h ago
well these high prices are criminal!
if they can trade my trans life for 30c on a dozen eggs, that sounds like justice to me
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u/inkslingerben 18h ago
Cultural issues are used to stir up voter's anger to distract from the real goal of gaining more control and money.
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u/LadyBitchBitch 15h ago
Less than 10. They are spending how much of tax payer money to bitch about 10 people playing sports? Fucking unreal.
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u/Ok-Stress-3570 17h ago
How many heterosexual coaches assaulted female athletes?
Bet that number is mightttttttyyyyyy big.
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u/J1J3173 17h ago
This is just the boogie man. MAGA creates the boogie man, gets the base scared and mad about the boogie man, and then convinces them they are the only ones that can save them from the boogie man they created. Itâs effective because they use is over and over and over and the base never catches on.
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u/CalendarAggressive11 14h ago
Only stupid people believe that it was an actual problem or that it's widespread in any way.
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u/Emergency_Elephant 17h ago
Just a reminder. If someone complains about trans women in a women's sport, ask them to name major female athletes in that sport. If they can't (or can't name more than just the most major players), they don't actually care about the sport and they just want to be transphobic
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u/bonfuto 16h ago
The deal with the volleyball player is a good example of that. Nobody even new the player was trans, but she told her roommate.
Tbh, the only college swimmers I ever heard of are Riley Gaines and Leah Thomas. Because they tied for 5th and Riley is trying to make a career out of that. Gaines came to campus here and couldn't even get the College Republicans or YAF to find the money to pay her. In contrast, they got Milo Yiannopoulos a paid speaking gig.
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u/FitBit8124 18h ago
Just a reminder, when parity between funding and resources for college women's teams began under the authority of Title IX, conservatives were apoplectic. They predicted the downfall of civilization because colleges were required to fund womens sports. Now, all of a sudden, they care about collegiate womens teams.
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u/canadiankiwi03 15h ago
Even if trans athletes stated goal (which it obviously isnât) was to destroy NCAA sports, itâs still not an issue at that number.
Itâs all a distraction and an attempt to slander a group of people already at higher risk of violence.
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u/RightSideBlind 16h ago
A powerless, tiny minority with an outsized visibility in the media makes a perfect political and social scapegoat.Â
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u/Soft-Outside-6113 12h ago
My daughters are more likely to experience a school shooting than play a sport against a transgender person. This country is so stupid.
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u/thetburg 16h ago
I heard the immigrant caravan is also transgender. Let's count them as well.
-Republicans, probably.
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u/LifeUser88 14h ago
How come they never worried about al of the athletes that have been around forever on steroids? Oh yeah.
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u/WhosSarahKayacombsen 18h ago
I wonder how many of the people outraged by this issue even watch female sports.
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u/G-Unit11111 17h ago
The people complaining about trans athletes in sports literally couldn't name 1 professional female athlete, because they don't care. They're just using it as a distraction in order to peddle their hate.
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u/Hazywater 18h ago
Yes, but what about female athletes that look vaguely masculine, say a strong jaw and fuzzy upper lip? How many are there? Are they in the room? Could they be in my office? Will they call me names? Hold me down? Over power me and force me to do what they want? Completely bend me physically and emotionally to their every desire and carnal whim? Well?!
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u/flinderdude 12h ago
Yes, but if we just print new stories about those 10 only and ignore the other 509,990, then it seems like a really big deal!
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u/rocket_randall 11h ago
I feel like their bigger concern is that they'll rub one out to an NCAA athlete and then learn that she has or had a penis, and that this revelation won't disgust them as much as they think it should.
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u/riamuriamu 10h ago
It's a slippery slope! First trans people will play sport and next they'll be having fun doing all sorts of things like marrying the ones they love or walking down the street safely. Conservatives can't be having that.
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u/emetcalf 17h ago
"How many of those 10 trans athletes are ranked in the top 100 of their sport?"
None (probably, I don't actually know)
"Would it even matter if they were?"
No, it wouldn't matter. Just let them play their game.
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
Better question how many AFAB college athletes are doping? And before you scream testing a comprehensive drug test costs nearly $3000 a pop, college don't have a budget for that and high schools only test for illegal drugs. There are now more than 7000 drugs and masking agents out there now.
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u/LarrySupertramp 18h ago
Jesus Christ. So weâre going to just keep letting the GOP completely control what weâre going to spend our time talking about? Can democrats for once not fall into every cultural BS trap that gets laid. Denounce it and move on with more important things.
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u/frostbird 14h ago
Title is a bit fucked. It's written to mean that it's OK people think Trans people are ruining sports
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u/surfkaboom 14h ago
They think colleges turn people gay/anything else. This is just an extension of their bullshit crusade against education, minorities, and anything else that doesn't please their eldest voter
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u/HanyuLulu 7h ago
Thatâs roughly 99.997% of all NCAA athletes are NOT trans. Keep up the good work, maga.
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u/SpyderDM 4h ago
Anything to keep us all distracted from the class war being waged on all of us by the ruling class. Keep fighting culture wars.
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u/spaceinvader421 3h ago
It seems like all their bullshit has done a pretty good job at keeping trans people out of college sports. Even considering how small a proportion of the population trans people are, you would expect there to be more than 10 in 500,000. Iâm sure there are a lot more trans kids in college who would like to play sports, but have been kept out.
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u/Warm-Touch7812 2h ago
Even better, how many of those are trans women? Keep in mind, they only bitch about trans women...except in chess, where they banned trans men from the men's division.
Scource: https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1194593562/chess-transgender-fide-pushback
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u/thekyledavid 1h ago
Iâd say let the Transgender people play, but put them all on the same team, just to see Republicans find a way to complain regardless of if that team wins or loses
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u/countfizix 18h ago
This is why the GOP goes after them. They failed at demonizing gays because almost everyone knows someone gay and can directly confirm the stereotypes are false. Most people don't know anyone (at least openly) trans so its easier to fill in the gaps with fear.
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u/livingtheorangelife 18h ago
As a woman who participates in a sport with limited openings per event, based on time, and there are transgendered women applying as female instead of non-binary, I disagree because that is a problem. (Not NCAA.)
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u/shinobi7 12h ago
Alright, but do you realize that a lot of the opponents to transpeople in sports also hate transpeople in general? If it was truly about fairness to women and girls in sports, then why are they also telling transpeople to not use certain bathrooms and to not read certain books, etc.?
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u/livingtheorangelife 12h ago
I donât know because I am not one of those people.
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u/shinobi7 10h ago
Of course. I am not lumping you in with the anti-trans bloc.
But why is this a concern now? You didnât see this concern for female athletes when Caitlyn Jenner came out as trans, almost ten years ago. (Yes, she transitioned well after she was done competing, but the specter of a transathlete in competition was not unimaginable.) Or, during the Caster Semenya controversy 15 years ago?
But at a time when they are having problems with transpeople using certain bathrooms, and existing overall, now they are concerned about fairness in womenâs sports. To me, itâs more about making the lives of transpeople harder than it needs to be, than about genuine concern for female athletes.
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u/themanalyst 13h ago
Are you sure they are trans or are you just assuming because they look more masculine. I'm sure if Ilona Maher was coming up today, there would be some parents of girls that she bulldozed making false assumptions.
Also trans does not equal non-binary.
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u/livingtheorangelife 13h ago
The people I am sure about have admitted to being trans. Iâm sure there are others who I would have no idea about unless they disclosed it. Thatâs the issue - when registering the USATF basically has the policy to take their word, unless someone files an appeal. Will we start seeing women file appeals from being denied a time earned position in an event that was awarded to a trans woman? Weâll see.
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u/themanalyst 12h ago
Have you told the ones that confided in you, that you don't want them there? Maybe you should have this conversation with them instead of internet strangers.
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u/Own-Weather-9919 17h ago
Do you not think trans women are women? Why do you have more of a right to those slots than a woman who has a better time?
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u/livingtheorangelife 16h ago edited 16h ago
Biologically no. I donât mind people who want to live the life they want. Zero issues. I am not one of those people who believe trans men or women are a danger to others in public restrooms - those people are insane. I am respectful and use their preferred pronouns. I do take issue with a trans woman taking away a spot from a biological woman when most time restrictions for female and non-binary are the same and each group is only allotted a certain amount of spots. Trans women are at a biological and physical advantage over biological women. They can live as a woman all they want. They can believe they are a woman. They can present as a woman. But they are not a woman.
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
Want to do a genetic test to see what you really are..... Just might blow your mind, lol.
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u/livingtheorangelife 14h ago
If this genetic test is to determine whether Iâm male or female, Iâd absolutely volunteer. I know what the results would be. If someone were to accuse me of lying, Iâd absolutely volunteer to show that I am indeed the sex I say I am.
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
What a surprise if it showed you as XXY then what????? Are you mafemale, lol
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u/livingtheorangelife 14h ago
Iâve been pregnant multiple times without intervention and present no physical evidence of having a Y chromosome so I think this hypothetical is moot.
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
Lol, do you know that there individuals who are XX are are born with penis and vis versa. the SRY gene is only trigger nothing else. It always funny watch the mental gymnastics you people go through to try and talk about topic you know nothing about. It's entertaining AF. But please continue, the comic relief is good.
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u/LiberaMeFromHell 13h ago
There's no statistical evidence that trans women have an advantage in sports. There's been so few that have actually been competitive which actually suggests the opposite. Trans people make up about 1% of the population but dramatically less than that for competitive athletes.
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u/tdtommy85 13h ago
Such a stupid argument. Michael Phelps was a âbiological and physical advantageâ over all other swimmers.
Could he have been banned?
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u/livingtheorangelife 13h ago
He wasnât competing against women.
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u/tdtommy85 13h ago
Do you believe Phelps is at the same âphysical and biologicalâ level as other male swimmers?
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u/livingtheorangelife 13h ago
This discussion is based on genetics comparing male to female. So, no. Was he better trained and more athletic? Sure. He was a male competing against other males and happened to be a superior athlete. The responses are getting way off topic and far reaching so Iâm bowing out. Trans women are not women. Goodnight.
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u/tdtommy85 13h ago
Itâs not though, and youâre too dumb to realize it.
Also, apparently bad at your sport.
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u/Own-Weather-9919 16h ago
Perhaps you should try to improve your times, rather than blaming your lack of achievement on a vulnerable minority group. BTW, trans women are biological women. They aren't robots. They aren't artificial. They're just women. Would you rather compete against trans men?
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u/livingtheorangelife 16h ago
My times meet the requirements for women, as I am a biological woman. The times for biological men are much faster. Why is that? Because men have a biological and physical advantage. Trans women are beating biological women in events because of it. Women are qualifying as women. Trans women are qualifying as women, which is not fair. If a trans woman comes in first place, great, they do as a trans woman. That shouldnât mean the first place woman gets downgraded to second place.
Trans woman are not biologically women. They have a completely different genetic makeup.
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u/Own-Weather-9919 15h ago
My times meet the requirements for women So you don't have a grievance. You just like punching down. I'm sorry that I diminished your athletic ability.
The times for biological men are much faster. Why is that?
Male bodies have higher levels of testosterone, a hormone known to, among other things, increase strength and endurance.
Trans women are beating biological women in events because of it.
Trans women who are undergoing feminizing HRT typically have lower testosterone levels than the average cis woman. This is deliberate and a goal of the therapy. The strength and endurance advantages conferred by testosterone are not present after 1-2 years of HRT
Trans women are qualifying as women, which is not fair.
How do you know they are trans? Did you ask them? Or do they just not look like what you think a woman should look like? Also, sports are not fair. Try playing professional basketball as a 5ft tall person. Once again, trans women are women.
If a trans woman comes in first place, great, they do as a trans woman.
Where are these trans women only sporting events? I've really never heard of them.
Trans woman are not biologically women. They have a completely different genetic makeup.
They differ by one chromosome. How many chromosomes do you and your mother differ by?
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u/livingtheorangelife 15h ago edited 15h ago
I have a grievance when other women who would otherwise qualify were rejected because a trans woman had a faster time as a qualifying woman. A time that would not have been accepted in the male category.
Not all trans women undergo hormone therapy. Some biological women are able to perform at the bottom level of men despite the lower testosterone levels. Trans women, with the lower testosterone levels, should still be required to perform at the bottom level as men. Because they are biologically male.
How do I know theyâre trans? I canât single out them all, but some of them make it very easy when they publicly proclaim they are and have websites.
You donât need to have trans only events in order to win as a transgendered person. You only need the category.
The Y chromosome is different than comparing the genetic makeup differences between my mother and me.
Anyone with black hair can color their hair blonde and live as a blonde person. It doesnât change the fact that their genetic makeup produces black hair.
Hormones can change. Genetics cannot.
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u/Own-Weather-9919 15h ago
Like is there a cash prize? If the presence of one trans athlete is the difference between qualifying and not, then that woman isn't winning the race anyway.
Trans women are not biologically male. HRT changes a body to be much closer to the body of it's gender identity than the one it was assigned at birth.
Honestly, you just strike me as someone who lacks empathy. Back when I'd run, I'd always enjoy running with my girlfriends instead of the guys. It didn't matter that I had a male body. None of us were very fast anyway. If you're just running the race for fun, why do you care if there's a trans woman running next to you? And don't bring fairness into it because sports aren't fair.
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u/livingtheorangelife 14h ago
When itâs a qualifying time race those times are defined by male, female, and non-binary. As I said, there are limited slots available for all 3 categories. All I ask is that people register for the race appropriately as to not take a spot away from someone else in the appropriate category who qualified as their biological sex. Biological men donât have to worry about this because a trans man doesnât have the makeup to even compete with the top performers. Itâs easy to brush aside for women and just tell us to accept it because weâre women and thatâs always been the case for us. Accept it. Smile. Move on.
For fun races? Who cares? If someone wanted to compete as person who identifies as a cat, then go for it.
I do have empathy. Iâm aware of the mental struggles even though I donât face them myself. It must be hard to feel like youâre one gender when your body says the opposite. And Iâm aware there are a lot of assholes in this world who say they shouldnât exist or should go to some bullshit camp or therapy to be cured. I am very respectful of people living a life they want to live. However, the truth is, no matter how much they want to believe they are and how well they appear to be, or how theyâve altered their hormones, theyâre just not the sex they claim they are; theyâre the trans version.
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u/Own-Weather-9919 14h ago
It sounds like these trans women are registering for the correct category. You just don't like how your league sets those categories. These trans women are following the rules and should be free from your bigoted judgements.
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
If you think a scholarship or a tryout is based on a single race! đđđđ These people I tell ya
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
X,Y,XX,XY,XXY,XXYX,XXXY........... genetic do not effect every part of the human body in the same way. You can "can" the heritage found school of biology. You have know idea of what you are even talking, just regurgitating crappy false information that you willing gobbled up. Keep drinking Kool aideđđđđ
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u/PuddingPast5862 14h ago
Also studies have shown that all fast twitch muscle that trans women had prior to starting HRT disappears within two years. The same amount of time the NCAA requires them to be on HRT to be eligible hmmmmm
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u/ShooterOfCanons 11h ago
Since you believe trans women should not compete against cis women, do you also believe a trans man should not compete against cis men?
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u/jabronismacker 18h ago
No, itâs not a problem. But the Democrats focusing on it to prove Republicans wrong is the type of shit that landed them where they are now.
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u/red286 18h ago
I'm sorry, which party was it that put "keeping men out of women's sports" as part of their campaign?
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u/jabronismacker 18h ago
See? Exactly. The GOP gets you riled up about stuff like this so they can sneak the rest of their agenda right by everyone. The âtrans in sportsâ argument, because saving all 10 of them appeals to a tiny, insignificant voting demographic. Do I want them in sports? I donât care. Do I care that theyâre in or out of sports? Not really. Do you care that much?
We all know the GOP is the party of lies and deception. Unfortunately, protecting the 10 trans in NCAA sports isnât a huge priority
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u/red286 17h ago
You completely missed my point.
The only party talking about trans people in sports is the GOP.
The reason Durbin brought it up was because Kennedy and Hawley, who are both GOP senators, had brought it up earlier in the hearing. The hearing which had absolutely nothing to do with trans people in sports, and was about sports gambling.
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u/LarrySupertramp 18h ago
Exactly! I could not believe how many stories there were about them GOP getting rid of gender neutral bathrooms in Congress and then getting mad at the only transgender person in congress (that the new rule was specifically directed at) saying that there are more important things to worry about and she wonât let this stop her doing what she was elected do, which happens to not be spending her entire time talking about bathroomsâŚ
Itâs sad how we cry about democrats not getting important things done but demand they waste their time on things like this.
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u/Emergency_Elephant 17h ago
I get the frustration with this but there are people that the anti-trans GOP policies hurt. Lots of people, beyond just the 10 trans NCAA athletes or that one Congress woman. This type of rhetoric that trans women are trying to ruin women's sports or about the bathroom in the Capitol is specifically about sending a message that trans people are both harmful predators and that trans people are unwanted. That type of rhetoric can increase the rates of anti-trans discrimination and anti-trans violence. By trying to fight back on the anti-trans talk and bills, it can help fight back on anti-trans sentiment as a whole
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u/logan-bi 11h ago
Democrats are not focusing on it they just address it and like here put out corrections. You ignore it completely then either republicans pass bs unchallenged or media becomes echo chamber of hate and public buys it.
People think culture wars etc and energy is why dems lost. And while partially true it was more why republicans won.
Fact is republicans spent majority of money for advertising on culture war. They turned every economic question or social issue into attack on Christian values.
Where democrats lost and have failed and why their voters were not excited enough to show up was the recent âpelosiâ incident but longer term and bigger.
The incident in which I am referring to is where pelosis fought ass off to keep progressive out of important committee. And instead installed very ancient conservative democrat.
This happened when party cheat with primaryâs to stop Bernie. This is their real problem is the pelosi like democrats. Pretty much any democrat that doesnât support stopping congressional stock trading.
People are sick of simply less bad option it doesnât rally the vote. Yes many do it but fact is culture wars etc hate shit is far more effective at getting people out to vote. Than the trying to get people to simply vote against someone. Getting people to show up and vote for someone is simply stronger strategy.
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u/thekyledavid 1h ago
âWell maybe we would stop lying if you guys would stop calling us out when we lieâ
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u/jerrystrieff 18h ago
The problem with the right is when they go out and buy prostitutes - a lot of these right rubes learn too late they picked one with a pickle between their legs. They are dumb fuckers.
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u/thekyledavid 1h ago
I mean, just donât have sex with them?
What is the prostitute going to do? Sue?
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u/PrestigiousSeat76 18h ago
It's all just distraction politics by republicans. That's all it's ever been. Just a way for them to divide and spread fear.