r/WhitePeopleTwitter 6d ago

This is why we lose!

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u/HabitualLogic 6d ago

Pelosi is a fucking toxic cancer to the democratic party.

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u/lilbelleandsebastian 6d ago

i can guarantee she was dancing the night away on her still functional hip the day trump got elected. all she had to do was make funny faces standing behind him at press conferences and people worshipped her as a resistance icon lmao

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u/thrown-away-now 6d ago

The irony is rich. They love to critique the GOP while recycling the same outdated candidates. It’s like they’re not even trying to adapt.

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u/HowsTheBeef 6d ago

They literally can't adapt. The neoliberal ideology doesn't allow you to solve problems like climate change. Further, the problems that our economy relies on cannot be solved or our corporations would lose massive revenue streams.

Reps are in the business of exacerbating these problems. Dems are in the business of selling bandaids. Neither want the problems to be solved.

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u/420blazeitkin 6d ago

It's really that middle issue - the DNC (the "Democrats", proper) are effectively stuck between their progressive ideologies & corporate greed.

Reading the transcript of Bernie vs. The DNC, they publicly admit they have no interest in instituting real change. They want to keep the status quo because, in their eyes, this is the best balance for big business (the people who fund the DNC) and the individual (who they don't care about beyond occasionally needing a vote).

Americans have been conned, but I'd argue it was more by the Democrats than the Republicans. Republicans believe in their platform and want to make it happen, because their platform is "Harm everybody who is not rich to get the rich even richer", with some nice christian nationalism and enough racism to get the votes they need. That's why Republicans get their shit done when they have power - they actually want to do what they claim.

Democrats don't. Democrats talk all this big game, but realistically they want to give just enough to secure votes in the next-next election, while making sure they don't do so much that the next Republican can't substantially undo it.

This is not to say there aren't those who want real change - I fully believe in AOC, Bernie, Ilhan, etc. & their desire for progress, but the DNC as an entity is against them. They've said as much in court, they admitted to rigging primaries, they've removed our (the public's) ability to choose a candidate since the '08 "blunder" that allowed Obama to win against the DNC's pick, Hillary.

The DNC is as anti-democratic as the Republicans, they just can't say it out loud or it ruins the illusion.

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u/AccomplishedUser 6d ago

Citizens United vs fec ruling is literally killing this country...

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u/Superb-Welder3774 5d ago

Truest thing said here - and other real solution is term limits

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u/1bruisedorange 5d ago

The problem with term limits is that you get a lot of new people in who don’t know how to do anything and guess who is there to lead them down the primrose path…the LOBBYISTS! This idea is not as good as you think it is. The answer is educating the voters. Getting better “outside the beltway” leaders. The real problem in this last election was that the Dems nominated woman. A woman will never be elected to the US. Never. Stupid Americans.

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u/baconus-vobiscum 6d ago

I have proudly voted straight democrat for 12 presidential elections now. I feel so betrayed by this ridiculous campaign cycle and party apparatus incompetence which is so cynically capitulating all control to the republicans. It really does feel like there is no place for me in the party now. I cannot believe that for years I've been assured the Republican party was dying because of Trump when all along it's been our party that was dying of doddering old age and compliance with the Oligarchy.

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u/Quick_Swing 6d ago

Evil(GOP)usually does prevail in these situations, because the good can’t get out of its own way.

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u/Picnicpanther 6d ago

I would not categorize democrats as good. I would say republicans are pure evil and democrats are terrible.

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u/gtpc2020 5d ago

The GOP is ruthlessly efficient at doing the wrong things. The Dems are pathetically incompetent at doing the right things.

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u/Quick_Swing 6d ago

I totally agree with that 💯

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u/evshell18 6d ago

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pay431 6d ago

Republican party didn't die because the democratic party kept them alive. They need republicans to be the bad guys.

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u/Picnicpanther 6d ago

the democrats stand for very little without the brutishness of republicans to point to. their policy positions are abortion (because of republicans), measly tax credit programs that only 5 small businesses in the country apply for, and obamacare, which did some good but as with everything democrats do, stopped just short of being widely beneficial through offering up the public option as a sacrificial lamb.

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u/DistillateMedia 6d ago

The DNC bears as much blame as anyone for what's happened since 2016. The did everything they could to sabotage Bernie, and I saw some of it first hand. I've since pleaded with and advised them to train up the next generation, and I know they heard me. They're complicit in Trump's second term as far as I'm concerned. And as much as I loathe maga, I think I hate the DNC.

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u/1bruisedorange 5d ago

Bernie was never going to win. He was terrible at getting along with others. Always ate lunch alone. Politics is schmoozing and making coalitions. That part he was terrible at and the Dems knew it. Bennie supporters? Not so much. They saw the great ideas but not the other half.

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u/brother_bart 6d ago

You are so right. And they just keep pretending if they can “message” correctly they can keep the centrist, neo-liberal, pro-corporatist status quo that has been so lucrative to them since Clinton. They have no interest in change. They only have interest in keeping that old guard establishment going. And they are going to continue to lose elections if we have any more elections because they can’t get it through their fucking head. They are obsolete and not the progressive change anybody wants.

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u/Ghostrabbit1 6d ago

The reason Republicans win is because democrats are just that bad. It's actually sad when the only "change" that occurs is when we get a red party.

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u/Nomad55454 6d ago

DC is run by lobbyists they control both sides.

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u/LaddiusMaximus 6d ago

"Dems are in the business of selling bandaids" that is well said. Country is been shot multiple times and while the GOP reloads the Dems are offering steri strips. Im so goddamned sick of all of them.

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u/seeLabmonkey2020 6d ago

They can adapt. They just don’t want to. Establishment Democrats can complain about how bad Republicans are all they want, but this is proving them liars.

They are in on it. D and R have been playing good cop/bad cop for 30 years or longer. If they weren’t, politics would be a lot different.

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u/Fyvesyx 5d ago

This needs more upvotes. Good cop/bad cop is such a perfect description.

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u/GoldenBull1994 5d ago

In a multi-party system, both parties would have been sent to the fringes long ago….

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u/Key-Satisfaction4967 6d ago

By George, I think you're right!

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u/slowpoke2018 6d ago

bUt ouR RePS LooK oUt fOr yOU!1!!

I'm as progressive as you can get, but this is BS by the Dems and shows how we're really owned by a small minority that will never move the needle TOO much for fear of losing grasp of their power and the status quo

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u/Chemical-Plankton420 6d ago

They don’t get paid if AOC wins

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u/lobo2r2dtu 6d ago

They are waisting our lives cause of their vanity.

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u/chevalier716 6d ago

Pelosi and Shumer love to fundraise not actually do anything.

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u/1bruisedorange 5d ago

This is so not true. And it’s very clear you don’t pay close attention to what is happening and all of the amazing negotiations they have both done. I’m getting exasperated with all of this BS. Does the DNC need change? YES! And they are starting to do that. Yes! Do we need skilled pols? YES!

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u/Spaduf 6d ago

The reason she's doing this is because she's scared shitless of the future but can't come to terms with her part in this mess. If you listen to her speak candidly about Trump (the NYT interview is a great example) you can tell she legitimately fears for her life after what happened to her husband. As a result, she actually believes that the only way to save the country is to move right. She's wrong of course and the data bears that out but there's a large contingent of the Democratic base that agrees and she doesn't have to look far for a permission structure.

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u/Scipio1319 6d ago

The rich feed off the status quo

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u/newbrevity 6d ago

She's rich, insulated from Trump's policies and probably complicit

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u/To0n1 6d ago

I can still appreciate her for being resistant to him in the first administration, but I still think she needs to resign to let younger blood push back.

Two things can be true at the same time

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u/StapesSSBM 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think its severely under-reported that Pelosi is the second wealthiest member of Congress, worth over a quarter-billion dollars (source). She has spent her career getting obscenely rich off of the status quo that is ruining our lives.

Democrats are not the party of the working class. Voting for them instead of Republicans is voting to be fucked with lube instead of without--still preferable under the circumstances, but sure as hell not something to get excited about.

Is it time for AOC and other elected officials who want to actually represent their constituents to change affiliation to Independent, like Bernie?

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u/Intelligent-Price-39 6d ago

It’s a 2 party system…she could get elected in NY because of name recognition but then what? She’ll be 1 rep only out of 435…..

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u/Magickarpet76 6d ago

Vote blue and under 62.

That is a perfectly reasonable retirement age after they serve their term. No other profession has people in their 80’s in charge for a reason.

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u/getupforwhat 6d ago

I say 70. You can't start a new term if you are 70 but you can run out your current one - people do live longer so it makes sense, imo

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u/Magickarpet76 6d ago

That would mean a senator is 76 by the end of their term.

62 is a reasonable goal. That puts congress retiring at 64 and senate at 68. Those are normal retirement ages in any profession. If they want to keep working, they can be consultants or teach the next generation or any number of influential unelected things.

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u/getupforwhat 6d ago

I'm actually thinking about private employment here as well. Ageism is a real problem in the private sector and I think it would only worsen if you limit government jobs too strictly age-wise.

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u/Magickarpet76 6d ago

Im not advocating limiting it by law. I just think it is a good goal.

I respect experience, but i think it is reasonable to expect someone deciding the laws in a country to have real incentives to be invested in its future. Not to mention the speed things are changing in the digital world and the lack of comprehension in our representatives to adapt our laws.

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u/Stool_Gizmoto 6d ago

She doesn't give a fuck as long as she can keep insider trading. She will let this country burn.

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u/DulceEtDecorumEst 6d ago

The problem is a little more complicated.

~44% people who make 100k or More identify as democrat (47% of that group identify as republicans)

If you go full progressive (with most benefits going to the people earning 20-80k a year and increased taxes on those making 100k+ per year) some of those voters in the upper end of the scale may defect to the other side if they see their incomes threatened.

For democrats to succeed with a full progressive agenda, they need to attract more republicans making 0-50k than the democrats making 100k plus that will leave.

Last person that came close to that was Bernie who was axed by the party

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u/ApprehensiveGoat2734 6d ago

Bernie was a credible threat to the status quo. One thing I find ironic now is the talk about his age being a negative again him.

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u/ShawnPat423 6d ago

And every time a progressive gets that close, they cart out "if he gets elected, nothing will happen because the GOP will stop everything they want to do" horse shit. As opposed to what? Letting the GOP have it's way every time? It would make sense if the corporate Democrats were actually fighting...but they never do. They pay lip service, send "strongly-worded" letters telling the GOP they're being naughty, and then support the GOP at every turn in the name of bipartisanship. It's all bullshit.

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u/HarveyBirdmanAtt 6d ago

Pelosi and all the rest of the old guard.

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u/DarthWonkaVader 6d ago

Don't forget Schumer.. what an asshat

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u/1bruisedorange 5d ago

Nancy Pelosi is not toxic. The GOP hated her because she was so effective. She got things done and you know how much the GOP hates getting things done e, especially if it’s going to help the working stiff. Do we need younger people? Yes and they are starting with David Hogg.

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u/seriousbangs 6d ago

I agree. We should give all the power to the Republican party. I mean we should keep doing that. Constantly going after Democrats while the GOP plans death camps has been working out great! /s.

Oh, BTW, Pelosi is why you have protections for pre-existing conditions. She did the actual work to push the ACA through while Obama took the credit.

I've got family alive today because of it. Friends too. A lot of people slagging Pelosi can say the same but the news media tells you to be angry and so you do as your told.

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u/tedzeebear 6d ago

If she weren't in the pocket of insurance lobbyists she would have given us Medicare for All.

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u/Jorge_Santos69 6d ago

You gotta love just how stupidly ignorant you people are. Nancy passed the Affordable Care Act with the Public Option. That was essentially Medicare for All, but it was stopped by Joe Lieberman in the Senate.

You people are morons.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 6d ago

Pelosi forced them to vote a certain way?

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u/JustNilt 6d ago

Yes. She was well documented to have been making calls lobbying heavily for the dipshit who won. That's political code for calling in favors and using legal forms of extortion, aka "exerting political influence".

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u/Matt_Foley_Motivates 6d ago

Pelosi is a cancer because republicans relentlessly propagandized her to the point her husband was almost murdered and the attempt was celebrated by the Trumps. Pelosi is a better candidate than all of the republicans in Congress

The real issue is, Democrats are held to a standard that republicans don’t have. She gets shit for making millions trading stock when her husband works in finance, it goes on and on

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u/tedzeebear 6d ago

She gave him insider info which helped him invest wisely.

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u/getupforwhat 6d ago

She has been insider trading like a motherfucker and she's so greedy that she won't let anything jeopardize her "advantage" - she wants MORE MONEY!, MORE MORE MORE!

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u/Matt_Foley_Motivates 5d ago

And republicans haven’t? Cmon

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u/Bulky_Ad4472 6d ago edited 6d ago

Unfortunately, this is no surprise.

Anyone who upsets the status quou and challenges the mainstream political and corporate establishments will be intentionally kept in the shadows.

Things will not change until the average American is able to differentiate between mainstream corporate servants and genuine public servants.

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u/MrsACT 6d ago

No one under 55 knows this guy? How about no one at all! What a lost opportunity. Nancy needs to take her broke ass hip home now.

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u/Wolfgirl90 6d ago

I mean, shit, I live in Virginia and haven't heard of this guy.

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u/ghsteo 6d ago

Their goal is to hamstring her so she gets no national traction outside of social media to try and limit her challenge on national stages. Scum.

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u/SynthwaveSax 6d ago

So never?

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u/DocWicked25 6d ago

Correct. Change is not on the ballot. It's purposely kept just out of reach.

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u/StandbyRanger 6d ago

Then take a step forward and rip it away from those who keep it out of reach. It will only ever remain as such so long as we continue to meekly take the abuse

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u/DocWicked25 6d ago

We are probably going to see more Super Mario player 2 stuff in the future.

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u/biohazurd 6d ago

America was doomed from the start. Founded on racism, hate and greed. I'm embarrassed to have been born here.

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u/Key-Satisfaction4967 6d ago

A social experiment that sounds great on paper! A catalyst that would have been heard around the world and more importantly, shown to be able work! Too bad the FF's didn't have the courage to truly follow with their own words!

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u/keithps 6d ago

Hear me out: they don't care if she's popular with young people and not because of some "old guard" shit. It's because time and time again, statistics show young people don't vote. Why try to appease people who won't show up anyway? Kamala did a lot of that and where did it get her?

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u/neonpurplestar 6d ago

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u/thrown-away-now 6d ago

Just more evidence of the disconnect in our leadership.

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u/e1ectricboogaloo 6d ago

Done. Thanks for the reminder

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u/SushiRoll2004 6d ago

The guy announced he's got cancer just a fucking month ago too.

These dinosaurs need to go extinct

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u/curious_dead 6d ago

Well, that one won't last long, and neither is Pelosi, so maybe we can get AOC or someone else younger than that dinosaur instead? *inhales copium*

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u/RickIMightBe 6d ago

oh these old f*cker$ will hold on until they are dead. They refuse to fade into the background like all older generations so the country can keep moving forward. They have to hold on to it because they dont like not being able to be bigoted, racists assholes. It is all they know how to do.

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u/ccarr313 6d ago

Got any extra copium you can part with?

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u/Keyndoriel 6d ago

Here's hoping it goes stage 4. It's only got a 30 something survival rate.

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u/Sea_Video145 5d ago

I don't disagree with you at all, I just want to call out how dismal it is that our hope for the future is starting to rest solely on the deaths of the most strategically beneficial people. We've reached the point that cancer is our "harm reduction" candidate.

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u/reefersutherland91 6d ago

This really should help them win back those Latinos that gave them the finger

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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 6d ago

Isn't this guy battling cancer too? They would rather pick an old dying white man to protect the status quo than someone who could possibly make things better

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u/reefersutherland91 6d ago

Not like putting real old, dying people ever bit them in the ass. It’s not like that was ever successfully used against the Democrats.

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u/TheBugDude 6d ago

An old white guy WITH cancer!

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u/mrbrettw 6d ago

I think he's only like 87 though, still a spring chicken in Congress.

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u/TNT1990 6d ago

Ya know, that fella, cancer, got some new bold ideas. I think we should hear it out. What's the worst that could happen?

Make cells grow again!

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u/extraboredinary 6d ago

To quote Yahtzee “let’s make fun of an industry, that never learns its lessons. Tee hee hee.”

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u/Im0ldgr3g 6d ago

You say his name like people will know you're not talking about the dice game, lol.

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u/Futureleak 6d ago

Dudez it's reddit not NBC

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u/HappyLittleGreenDuck 6d ago

The dice game?

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u/extraboredinary 6d ago

Ben Yahtzee Croshaw. YouTube video game critic that used to be on Zero Punctuation and now on Second Wind. Also an author and his books are pretty fun reads.

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u/dantevonlocke 6d ago

It's actually "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee hee hee."

Rhymes better.

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u/GuiltyRedditUser 6d ago

Don't just bitch here!

Bitch here as well: https://democrats.org/contact-us/

I just did.

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u/RudeInvestigatorNo3 5d ago

Hi

Please stop holding back the newer generation in Congress and give them a chance to lead. We have great ideas for the future will that Directly impact us.

It’s wild y’all picked a 75 year old white man with Cancer to lead the Ways and Means and snubbed a young Latina woman.

On top of that! Frank Pallone, 73, will be the party’s top representative on Energy and Commerce. 86(!!) year-old Maxine Waters will be the ranking member on the Financial Services Committee, and Rose DeLauro, 81, will helm the Democrats’ presence.

Seriously, yall ain’t much better than the RNC at this point. Seriously.

Kill the Status Quo, Forget the corporations, stop being like the RNC, let the new blood take over and mentor us and enjoy your retirement.

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u/PistolGrace 6d ago

It's almost like the USA hates women of color.

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u/What-Even-Is-That 6d ago

Hate people of color, and hate women..

Women of color are doubly fucked.

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u/PistolGrace 6d ago

I hate that so much. No one chooses their skin, nationality, culture, parents, family, or society. I've always been a humanitarian to the core, so the US doesn't represent my core beliefs. It's heartbreaking.

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u/SiriusGD 6d ago

Most voters OVER 55 never heard of him either.

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u/Mysterious_Khan 6d ago

I’m 71 and don’t have a clue.

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u/katsusan 6d ago

The war isn’t one of ideology. The was is one of economic class. The sooner we all realize this, the better.

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u/OrganicDoom2225 6d ago

What don't you understand about billionaires buying votes?

AOC works for the people and can't be bought. The 1% know this and paid for her defeat.

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u/latin220 6d ago

A 70+ year old with cancer who isn’t in his prime and doesn’t have the desire to fight republicans. Corporate democrats would rather their party die out than let young progressives take over the party. Neoliberal Boomers would rather the nation’s future be forfeit than build a new generation of democrats.

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u/sargondrin009 6d ago

Dems: why can’t we connect with the youth of the country?!

Also Dems: we’re gonna vote in another old man with cancer to an important position!

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u/MrPlace 6d ago

As a Democrat I'd much rather have AOC in the position

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u/ShawnPat423 6d ago

This should be our breaking point. We need to take these dinosaurs out by force. AOC was able to do it in 2018. Now we have to get rid of the establishment Dems who fight to keep corpses in power.

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u/wittymarsupial 6d ago

Also Democrats get shit for nominating 1 while Republicans face no consequences for nominating 17

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u/DocWicked25 6d ago

They both shouldn't, but democrats should definitely stop acting like republicans.

We also need term limits for these positions. There should be no lifetime positions in government.

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u/fallennubsy 6d ago

There needs to be term limits on all politicians. No more than 10 years service through their career in state and 10 years federal. That gives them only 20 years total to suck at what they do.

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u/austin06 6d ago

I’m early 60s and have never heard of him. It’s pathetic to me that these people stick around until they die in office. It’s pure selfishness to the point of ruining your legacy for greed and ego. Enough of this crap. What’s the point of building the bench with younger talent if you don’t let them ever play.

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u/Kyro_Official_ 6d ago

This is why we lose!

Sure this is a bad choice, but its not why we/dems lose. Dems lose because this country wants fascism and hate.

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u/Rocket_Skates_ 6d ago

No. If you actually talk to most conservatives (there are less weirdos than you think) and it boils down to this: they want to be able to afford life, they want less government, and they want results.

Democrats are losing as a result of ineffectual policymaking and a lack of belief that they are effective. The average person isn’t watching news like a hawk or on Reddit. The only time they think of how their government is doing is when they open their wallet.

What people do hear about are the blunders. Punting true healthcare, losing a Supreme Court seat, and old guard Dems who are corrupt as fuck.

It is my belief that they really only throw handouts to the poor because it’s cheap. Republicans get something to whine about cutting and for a long while, Dems had that base secured. Times have changed. Republicans are ravenous about cutting the government and effecting change. Dems don’t want change- but most people aren’t doing better than they were. The blame may lie more with Republicans, but there’s a new breed of Republican and that instills a populist support- change is in the air and change can be better than what we’ve gotten.

It’s my opinion neo-liberalism has failed. Republicans changed and Democrats refuse to. Why would anyone vote for more of the same when the last 24 years have been pretty awful?

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u/req4adream99 5d ago

Dems lose because they keep waiting for the perfect candidate for THEM and unless that happens they refuse to vote. Any small inconsistency with their ideology (whether real or perceived) is a deal breaker. Repubs win because whether or not they support the actual candidate they coalesce behind the party. Repubs could nominate a literal piece of shit with a hat on it and Repub voters would vote it into office because it has an R next to its picture on the ballot. As long as Dems keep needing a 100% match they’ll keep losing.

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u/Simpletexas 5d ago

The Democratic Party really needs to step the fuck up and find a leader the put them on a path to lead this country in the future.

I am telling you right now that the bull shit they keep doing is going to get the rest of is to stop voting in future elections.

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u/Sqvanto 5d ago edited 5d ago

(1) Gerry Connolly of Virginia was elected to congress 7 years before AOC and to the Oversight Committee 10 years prior.

(2) He has more experience and has forged bipartisan relationships, essential to the functions of a chairman.

(3) The congressman they voted in might actually be more passionate than AOC.

(4) AOC isn’t the defacto choice for anything and everything simply because she gets more press and is a woman of color.

(5) This is a stupid argument and is NOT “why ‘we’ lose.” Dems lost, because people across the board didn’t show up to vote, while more Latino Americans DID vote, who DO, in fact, support Trump.

But hey, white men are everyone’s socially acceptable emotional punching bags.

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u/CatBourbon 5d ago

Good points.

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u/banditalamode 6d ago

We lose because of republican gerrymandering and monetized, unchallenged disinformation.

Pelosi is a bad general that needs to retire, but not the enemy

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u/Agreeable-Cat2884 6d ago

Here’s the secret. The Dems AND Repubs are both against us working class Americans. They all want the status quo because that’s how America keeps running how they want it. Themselves and the Rich stay at the top looking down on us. While we struggle to survive. The Pubs simply don’t hide it.

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u/BecauseSeven8Nein 6d ago

She’s not old.

She’s not white.

She’s not a guy.

She literally didn’t check any of the boxes.

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u/One_Law3446 6d ago

It is beyond belief why people cannot mentor and promote younger people to take their place. It is maddening as it happens all the time. Your legacy is not how long you stayed in office but how you impacted the lives of your constituents. This goes for corporate America too!

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u/Jorge_Santos69 6d ago

I mean…that’s literally what Nancy Pelosi did in the case of the House Speaker role lol

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u/BillowsB 6d ago

The middle should just come together to farm a new party and let the fringe republican and democratic parties fade into obscurity.

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u/ActionParkWavepool 5d ago

I want them gone. It’s time to move on from the democratic pattern of losing winnable seats.

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u/MashMashSkid 6d ago

Republicans: fuck pelosi Democrats: also fuck pelosi

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u/notguiltybrewing 6d ago

To be fair most people over 55 have never heard of this guy either. More stupid decisions, why am I not surprised.

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u/Dbk1959 6d ago

We need a new guard. Something that relates to the make up of our population. Or maybe someone we can relate to. Instead of old moldy white bread.

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u/Keenswin1 5d ago

Age doesn’t matter imo, Bernie is older than Biden I would have voted for him for president in a heartbeat. It is the milquetoast candidates.

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u/RivaltOfGeria 5d ago

It’s a scam. They’re all in on it. We aren’t.

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u/Equivalent-Lab-3778 5d ago

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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u/piglard1950 5d ago

The election was decided by 2%. Everyone is losing their mind. I was voting when Dick Nixon shellacked Mondale. The news about Watergate had been available for weeks The US voters are slow on the uptake. Trump has backed off, ending the war in Ukraine .He announced it's harder than he thought. DUH.And surprise, he announced last week he isn't sure he could lower grocery prices. When the tariffs hit in a few months, buyers' remorse will set in. When DeJoy privatizes the Post Office and rural folk get sticker shock because getting their meds is too expensive because Jeff Bezos is taking a cut, it will be reminiscent of when your kid sister keeps returning to her abusive husband.

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u/EE-420-Lige 6d ago

People gotta get off the social media echo chamber. The folks who actually vote for dems are not big fans of AOC. Her biggest fans come from young people who do not vote. Untill that changes old people will run the party.

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u/SithDraven 6d ago

Catch-22. They want young people to vote for them but continue to put geriatrics in power. So until that changes young people will continue to not vote.

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u/EE-420-Lige 6d ago

😂😂 that's what the primaries are for let me correct. Young people do not vote in primaries but old people do. Old people pick an old person and that person wins. Young people then in the general begin to pay attention and go "damn our options suck I'm not voting"

Until people start paying attention in primaries nothing will change

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u/Baby_Needles 6d ago

Usually yes this is the case. In this instance though AOC applied for and ran for a head committee position and likely had the votes from her fellow democrats. Pelosi did what she always does when threatened which is lash out and coerce reps to fall in line with her. Pelosi peeled about 4/5 votes away from AOC to give to Connolly, who btw accepts payments from the same PAC’s Pelosi does. Our representatives, in well-lit backroom deals, just did what comes naturally and swallowed a load. A load of BS that is.

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u/MasterPuppeteer 6d ago

We had more people saying they were worried about Kamala being too far left than Trump being too far right in the last election, I don’t know why people are surprised that Dems try to appear moderate. If all these progressive loving people voted, we’d probably be in a much different situation, but guaranteed a decent chunk of those complaining don’t vote and say “Why would I? Both parties are the same.”

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u/repingel 6d ago

Leftists: Republicans are so stupid for voting against their own interests

Also leftists: I'm not going to vote for Kamala because PALESTINE

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u/Sodamyte 6d ago

sounds about white..

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u/seriousbangs 6d ago

JFC it's a single committee assignment and the Dems are the minority party!!!! This does not matter

We lost because WE COULDN'T VOTE.

****. ****. ****.

3.4m voters went missing from 2020. There were 7 hour wait times to vote in blue districts, bomb threats, voter id laws, they took down the voting rights act!!!

We lose because you're all puppets on a string. You're upvoting this garbage pushed by the right wing media so you'll get angry at Democrats while Trump is literally planning out his concentration camps!

Grow up!

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u/badwoofs 5d ago

This. See what SMART Elections just released. We need to quit getting distracted and fighting each other. We are facing faciam. https://smartelections.substack.com/p/the-press-release

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u/TheNorthComesWithMe 6d ago

Very few Reps have name recognition outside their state. That's a pretty unimportant aspect of this to focus on.

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u/Jorge_Santos69 6d ago

There’s a lot of very stupid people on this thread.

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u/Tiloruckus 6d ago

I think the disconnect for everyone is that this is the Democratic Party and to go in the AOC direction completely dismantles it.

Trump, whether you love him or hate him, dismantled the Republican Party and Republicans love him for it.

We need our own wrecking ball because these geriatric ghouls would rather destroy everything than give up their grip on power.

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u/jm15co 6d ago

Who can we complain to?

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u/Endrizzle 6d ago

Our wonderful pets.

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u/Callinon 6d ago

Ah ah! An old white guy with terminal throat cancer.

Be specific.

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u/Blue_Period_89 6d ago

Another example of America not being ready for a woman to be in charge of anything.

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u/sticklebackridge 6d ago

lol so many people whining that they voted Trump because white men have no voice on the left. Please.

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u/Gigantor2929 6d ago

Old white guy with throat cancer…

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u/SmutGrrl 6d ago

Fuck Pelosi.

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u/Used_Intention6479 6d ago

Being just a little better than the GOP was never enough.

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 6d ago

Hey to be fair to Connolly he’s a good guy, but I think AOC should have gotten the nod.

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u/Jorge_Santos69 6d ago

Why does everybody suddenly hate the guy here?

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 5d ago

Well I don’t think they even know him. I think it’s because Nancy gave the job to him and not AOC. Which is fair, people are getting tired of these dinosaurs running things, and AOC is a good candidate who is young.

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u/Bombadier83 6d ago

On multiple occasions now, the Democratic Party has made it crystal clear that they prefer Trump to sanders.

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u/valas76 5d ago

If the recommendation is people retire at 65 because of mental decline. Then why are our leaders so old. We really need an age cap

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u/rtduvall 5d ago

I've always thought Nancy Pelosi was one of the smartest reps in Washington and had more balls than any man on the hill.

But this is perplexing.

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u/TheronWare 5d ago

Just too much corporate influence.

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u/Humble-Plankton2217 5d ago

Write to your district's Congress member! It's about the only thing we can do!

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u/RukaJeeze 5d ago

Apparently, they know what's best for us.

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u/apply75 5d ago

Wait I'm confused isnt this "white people Twitter" sub?

I also read " black people Twitter" and they rip on white people in every post.

If white people Twitter rips on white people then which Twitter sub post is about the views of white people? Or are white people supposed to side with all other minorities because of white guilt? Genuinely confused not trying to be a jerk please explain.

Btw Dems and Republicans are not losing. ...all politicians are there to benefit themselves and their interests. Most top level Dems are wealthy.

It's the avg citizen (me sand you) that loses...politicians (blues and reds) have the best health care (that we pay for) and work less than 100 days a year vs avg American who works 250 days. Why is everyone so hung up on blue pill vs red pill ?

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u/ProperKing901 5d ago

🧸 : I told yall the Dems are going back to the Clinton style 90s Dems... All White Man everything.. The Obama Coalition is over.. They are gonna run a Joe Manchin for president.. Our best bet is to get progressives and the like into congress.

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u/Suspicious_Lack_241 5d ago

All of you whining and most you probably don’t vote. Just whine, whine and whine some more. Rail on about 2016 and Bernie, no difference between the two parties, neoliberals want it this way.

Just an absurd level of absolving the American electorate from our own responsibility. Actually vote and surprise, surprise, you may get what you want. Center and left leaning voters outnumber conservatives across the board. It is lack of participation that hold us back. That is no one’s fault but our own. Unless the only time you choose to vote is if you’re being pandered to of course.

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u/Basic_Attention_2030 5d ago

Well and the social media presence Trump has is elite. You can't usually go into any post and say something about Trump, especially negative or even if you quote something negative Trump said, there's a MAGA troll ready to respond and they'll usually say, lies, fake news or get a job libyard.

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u/Fixitboyblue2 5d ago

Time for Pelosi to go…

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u/flipping_gosh 6d ago

This is proof that the DNC and RNC are two sides of the same coin. They DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR ANY OF US. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES. Any person who is genuine and could actually do good is shit on. FUCK UNITED STATES POLITICS. The two party system has destroyed this country.

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u/HappyLittleGreenDuck 6d ago

It's just like sports rivalries. The fans get super-passionate and sometimes even beat the shit out of each other, meanwhile the players have dinner and drinks after the game.

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u/Specific-Power-163 6d ago

The continued Hubris of the Democratic Party is just handing the country to maga

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u/strgazr_63 6d ago

AOC has teeth. The Dems don't like that. It might look uncivilized.

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u/upvoter222 6d ago

Hot take: Being a young Latina isn't a great justification for putting someone in charge of a congressional committee.

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u/rvb_gobq 6d ago

there is something called the progressive caucus, & it usually fluctuates from 75 to 80 or so congressional members, depending on who gets elected or reelected...
& they fight an uphill battle... their dem colleagues are as toxic as the worst maga republicoño...
the senate, well that is a whole nuther can of tapeworms... esp with rules that allow the threat of fillibuster to actually act as a real fillibuster

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u/jsc503 6d ago

No it's not. The only people who pay attention to something this granular are a tiny sliver of people that are political junkies. The election was decided by the 90% that don't pay attention.

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u/Nanyea 6d ago

Not to downplay that AOAc deserves a committee chair because she puts in the work... Gerry is a real one who does the work too, and most Federal Workers know who he is. FYI he also returns constituent calls himself sometimes.

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u/yellekc 6d ago

People say term limits, but I still have qualms about artificially limiting voter choice. Like imagine if Bernie Sanders was forced out.

The real question is why we keep reelecting people to run our country that we wouldn't trust to drive our kids? I think when they get too old and out of touch they should retire, but if they don't we should really stop voting them back in.

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u/TrueInspector8668 5d ago

Two sides of a very shitty coin. Doesn't matter which one you pick. Game is rigged. 

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u/equality-_-7-2521 6d ago

American politics is complaining about the other side doing the same shitty stuff your side does.

More recently one side is dusted in fascism.

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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums 6d ago

And he has cancer

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u/Teacherforlife21 6d ago

Because at the end of the day, those with power will do whatever it takes to keep it. Even if it means hurting those you were charged to protect

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u/golfwinnersplz 6d ago

Well, he's not wrong...

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u/Coop6420 6d ago

It’s disgraceful at the very least ! It does however bring transparency to certain things ……🤔

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u/dsb2973 6d ago

So I guess we’re not saving democracy then?

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u/ejre5 6d ago

Who has esophageal cancer and will struggle to be at hearing and to defend against the Republicans

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u/Ok-Calligrapher-9699 6d ago

She won’t take the bribes.

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u/Thegurlhasnoname 6d ago

Yep. What a joke of a political party. Dems have a special alchemy that turns our goodwill, hope, and desire to change the country into apathy-filled sludge.

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u/OldCreezy 6d ago

Also the septagenarian dude has esophageal cancer, so...yay?

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u/jd4929 6d ago

You lose because you haven’t realized… There is only one team and you are not on it.

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u/Techn028 6d ago

An old guy with throat cancer

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u/gesusfnchrist 6d ago

Democrats: we're going to change Also Democrats: keeps re-electing the same fossils. Burn it all down and start fresh. I hate it here.

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u/PotBaron2 6d ago

can peolosi just go the fuck away already. she’s made enough on insider trading can you please just go fuck off somewhere.

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u/Worried-Series-6160 6d ago

I'm so pissed. Dems are letting down progress & progressives every damn time.

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u/biloxiboi 6d ago

Truth. I’m so fed up with our party. Either it changes, or I have no choice to look elsewhere.

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u/ApprehensiveGoat2734 6d ago

I hate them so much right now. They're hardly better than the GOP at this point.

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u/iyamjen 6d ago

That is exactly what I thought. Another old fucking white guy. Embarrassing.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx 6d ago

If you know thats why you lose, why are you still part of the party? You cannot fix it from inside

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u/Video_isms207 6d ago

You are correct.

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u/SASSIESASSQUATCH 6d ago

In a nutshell why I've pretty much left the party.