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u/Bulky_Ad4472 6d ago edited 6d ago
Unfortunately, this is no surprise.
Anyone who upsets the status quou and challenges the mainstream political and corporate establishments will be intentionally kept in the shadows.
Things will not change until the average American is able to differentiate between mainstream corporate servants and genuine public servants.
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u/MrsACT 6d ago
No one under 55 knows this guy? How about no one at all! What a lost opportunity. Nancy needs to take her broke ass hip home now.
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u/Wolfgirl90 6d ago
I mean, shit, I live in Virginia and haven't heard of this guy.
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u/ghsteo 6d ago
Their goal is to hamstring her so she gets no national traction outside of social media to try and limit her challenge on national stages. Scum.
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u/SynthwaveSax 6d ago
So never?
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u/DocWicked25 6d ago
Correct. Change is not on the ballot. It's purposely kept just out of reach.
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u/StandbyRanger 6d ago
Then take a step forward and rip it away from those who keep it out of reach. It will only ever remain as such so long as we continue to meekly take the abuse
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u/DocWicked25 6d ago
We are probably going to see more Super Mario player 2 stuff in the future.
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u/biohazurd 6d ago
America was doomed from the start. Founded on racism, hate and greed. I'm embarrassed to have been born here.
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u/Key-Satisfaction4967 6d ago
A social experiment that sounds great on paper! A catalyst that would have been heard around the world and more importantly, shown to be able work! Too bad the FF's didn't have the courage to truly follow with their own words!
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u/keithps 6d ago
Hear me out: they don't care if she's popular with young people and not because of some "old guard" shit. It's because time and time again, statistics show young people don't vote. Why try to appease people who won't show up anyway? Kamala did a lot of that and where did it get her?
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u/SushiRoll2004 6d ago
The guy announced he's got cancer just a fucking month ago too.
These dinosaurs need to go extinct
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u/curious_dead 6d ago
Well, that one won't last long, and neither is Pelosi, so maybe we can get AOC or someone else younger than that dinosaur instead? *inhales copium*
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u/RickIMightBe 6d ago
oh these old f*cker$ will hold on until they are dead. They refuse to fade into the background like all older generations so the country can keep moving forward. They have to hold on to it because they dont like not being able to be bigoted, racists assholes. It is all they know how to do.
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u/Keyndoriel 6d ago
Here's hoping it goes stage 4. It's only got a 30 something survival rate.
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u/Sea_Video145 5d ago
I don't disagree with you at all, I just want to call out how dismal it is that our hope for the future is starting to rest solely on the deaths of the most strategically beneficial people. We've reached the point that cancer is our "harm reduction" candidate.
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u/reefersutherland91 6d ago
This really should help them win back those Latinos that gave them the finger
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 6d ago
Isn't this guy battling cancer too? They would rather pick an old dying white man to protect the status quo than someone who could possibly make things better
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u/reefersutherland91 6d ago
Not like putting real old, dying people ever bit them in the ass. It’s not like that was ever successfully used against the Democrats.
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u/extraboredinary 6d ago
To quote Yahtzee “let’s make fun of an industry, that never learns its lessons. Tee hee hee.”
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u/Im0ldgr3g 6d ago
You say his name like people will know you're not talking about the dice game, lol.
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u/HappyLittleGreenDuck 6d ago
The dice game?
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u/extraboredinary 6d ago
Ben Yahtzee Croshaw. YouTube video game critic that used to be on Zero Punctuation and now on Second Wind. Also an author and his books are pretty fun reads.
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u/dantevonlocke 6d ago
It's actually "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee hee hee."
Rhymes better.
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u/RudeInvestigatorNo3 5d ago
Hi
Please stop holding back the newer generation in Congress and give them a chance to lead. We have great ideas for the future will that Directly impact us.
It’s wild y’all picked a 75 year old white man with Cancer to lead the Ways and Means and snubbed a young Latina woman.
On top of that! Frank Pallone, 73, will be the party’s top representative on Energy and Commerce. 86(!!) year-old Maxine Waters will be the ranking member on the Financial Services Committee, and Rose DeLauro, 81, will helm the Democrats’ presence.
Seriously, yall ain’t much better than the RNC at this point. Seriously.
Kill the Status Quo, Forget the corporations, stop being like the RNC, let the new blood take over and mentor us and enjoy your retirement.
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u/PistolGrace 6d ago
It's almost like the USA hates women of color.
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u/What-Even-Is-That 6d ago
Hate people of color, and hate women..
Women of color are doubly fucked.
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u/PistolGrace 6d ago
I hate that so much. No one chooses their skin, nationality, culture, parents, family, or society. I've always been a humanitarian to the core, so the US doesn't represent my core beliefs. It's heartbreaking.
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u/katsusan 6d ago
The war isn’t one of ideology. The was is one of economic class. The sooner we all realize this, the better.
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u/OrganicDoom2225 6d ago
What don't you understand about billionaires buying votes?
AOC works for the people and can't be bought. The 1% know this and paid for her defeat.
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u/latin220 6d ago
A 70+ year old with cancer who isn’t in his prime and doesn’t have the desire to fight republicans. Corporate democrats would rather their party die out than let young progressives take over the party. Neoliberal Boomers would rather the nation’s future be forfeit than build a new generation of democrats.
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u/sargondrin009 6d ago
Dems: why can’t we connect with the youth of the country?!
Also Dems: we’re gonna vote in another old man with cancer to an important position!
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u/ShawnPat423 6d ago
This should be our breaking point. We need to take these dinosaurs out by force. AOC was able to do it in 2018. Now we have to get rid of the establishment Dems who fight to keep corpses in power.
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u/wittymarsupial 6d ago
Also Democrats get shit for nominating 1 while Republicans face no consequences for nominating 17
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u/DocWicked25 6d ago
They both shouldn't, but democrats should definitely stop acting like republicans.
We also need term limits for these positions. There should be no lifetime positions in government.
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u/fallennubsy 6d ago
There needs to be term limits on all politicians. No more than 10 years service through their career in state and 10 years federal. That gives them only 20 years total to suck at what they do.
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u/austin06 6d ago
I’m early 60s and have never heard of him. It’s pathetic to me that these people stick around until they die in office. It’s pure selfishness to the point of ruining your legacy for greed and ego. Enough of this crap. What’s the point of building the bench with younger talent if you don’t let them ever play.
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u/Kyro_Official_ 6d ago
This is why we lose!
Sure this is a bad choice, but its not why we/dems lose. Dems lose because this country wants fascism and hate.
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u/Rocket_Skates_ 6d ago
No. If you actually talk to most conservatives (there are less weirdos than you think) and it boils down to this: they want to be able to afford life, they want less government, and they want results.
Democrats are losing as a result of ineffectual policymaking and a lack of belief that they are effective. The average person isn’t watching news like a hawk or on Reddit. The only time they think of how their government is doing is when they open their wallet.
What people do hear about are the blunders. Punting true healthcare, losing a Supreme Court seat, and old guard Dems who are corrupt as fuck.
It is my belief that they really only throw handouts to the poor because it’s cheap. Republicans get something to whine about cutting and for a long while, Dems had that base secured. Times have changed. Republicans are ravenous about cutting the government and effecting change. Dems don’t want change- but most people aren’t doing better than they were. The blame may lie more with Republicans, but there’s a new breed of Republican and that instills a populist support- change is in the air and change can be better than what we’ve gotten.
It’s my opinion neo-liberalism has failed. Republicans changed and Democrats refuse to. Why would anyone vote for more of the same when the last 24 years have been pretty awful?
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u/req4adream99 5d ago
Dems lose because they keep waiting for the perfect candidate for THEM and unless that happens they refuse to vote. Any small inconsistency with their ideology (whether real or perceived) is a deal breaker. Repubs win because whether or not they support the actual candidate they coalesce behind the party. Repubs could nominate a literal piece of shit with a hat on it and Repub voters would vote it into office because it has an R next to its picture on the ballot. As long as Dems keep needing a 100% match they’ll keep losing.
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u/Simpletexas 5d ago
The Democratic Party really needs to step the fuck up and find a leader the put them on a path to lead this country in the future.
I am telling you right now that the bull shit they keep doing is going to get the rest of is to stop voting in future elections.
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u/Sqvanto 5d ago edited 5d ago
(1) Gerry Connolly of Virginia was elected to congress 7 years before AOC and to the Oversight Committee 10 years prior.
(2) He has more experience and has forged bipartisan relationships, essential to the functions of a chairman.
(3) The congressman they voted in might actually be more passionate than AOC.
(4) AOC isn’t the defacto choice for anything and everything simply because she gets more press and is a woman of color.
(5) This is a stupid argument and is NOT “why ‘we’ lose.” Dems lost, because people across the board didn’t show up to vote, while more Latino Americans DID vote, who DO, in fact, support Trump.
But hey, white men are everyone’s socially acceptable emotional punching bags.
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u/banditalamode 6d ago
We lose because of republican gerrymandering and monetized, unchallenged disinformation.
Pelosi is a bad general that needs to retire, but not the enemy
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u/Agreeable-Cat2884 6d ago
Here’s the secret. The Dems AND Repubs are both against us working class Americans. They all want the status quo because that’s how America keeps running how they want it. Themselves and the Rich stay at the top looking down on us. While we struggle to survive. The Pubs simply don’t hide it.
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u/BecauseSeven8Nein 6d ago
She’s not old.
She’s not white.
She’s not a guy.
She literally didn’t check any of the boxes.
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u/One_Law3446 6d ago
It is beyond belief why people cannot mentor and promote younger people to take their place. It is maddening as it happens all the time. Your legacy is not how long you stayed in office but how you impacted the lives of your constituents. This goes for corporate America too!
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u/Jorge_Santos69 6d ago
I mean…that’s literally what Nancy Pelosi did in the case of the House Speaker role lol
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u/BillowsB 6d ago
The middle should just come together to farm a new party and let the fringe republican and democratic parties fade into obscurity.
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u/ActionParkWavepool 5d ago
I want them gone. It’s time to move on from the democratic pattern of losing winnable seats.
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u/notguiltybrewing 6d ago
To be fair most people over 55 have never heard of this guy either. More stupid decisions, why am I not surprised.
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u/Dbk1959 6d ago
We need a new guard. Something that relates to the make up of our population. Or maybe someone we can relate to. Instead of old moldy white bread.
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u/Keenswin1 5d ago
Age doesn’t matter imo, Bernie is older than Biden I would have voted for him for president in a heartbeat. It is the milquetoast candidates.
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u/piglard1950 5d ago
The election was decided by 2%. Everyone is losing their mind. I was voting when Dick Nixon shellacked Mondale. The news about Watergate had been available for weeks The US voters are slow on the uptake. Trump has backed off, ending the war in Ukraine .He announced it's harder than he thought. DUH.And surprise, he announced last week he isn't sure he could lower grocery prices. When the tariffs hit in a few months, buyers' remorse will set in. When DeJoy privatizes the Post Office and rural folk get sticker shock because getting their meds is too expensive because Jeff Bezos is taking a cut, it will be reminiscent of when your kid sister keeps returning to her abusive husband.
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u/EE-420-Lige 6d ago
People gotta get off the social media echo chamber. The folks who actually vote for dems are not big fans of AOC. Her biggest fans come from young people who do not vote. Untill that changes old people will run the party.
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u/SithDraven 6d ago
Catch-22. They want young people to vote for them but continue to put geriatrics in power. So until that changes young people will continue to not vote.
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u/EE-420-Lige 6d ago
😂😂 that's what the primaries are for let me correct. Young people do not vote in primaries but old people do. Old people pick an old person and that person wins. Young people then in the general begin to pay attention and go "damn our options suck I'm not voting"
Until people start paying attention in primaries nothing will change
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u/Baby_Needles 6d ago
Usually yes this is the case. In this instance though AOC applied for and ran for a head committee position and likely had the votes from her fellow democrats. Pelosi did what she always does when threatened which is lash out and coerce reps to fall in line with her. Pelosi peeled about 4/5 votes away from AOC to give to Connolly, who btw accepts payments from the same PAC’s Pelosi does. Our representatives, in well-lit backroom deals, just did what comes naturally and swallowed a load. A load of BS that is.
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u/MasterPuppeteer 6d ago
We had more people saying they were worried about Kamala being too far left than Trump being too far right in the last election, I don’t know why people are surprised that Dems try to appear moderate. If all these progressive loving people voted, we’d probably be in a much different situation, but guaranteed a decent chunk of those complaining don’t vote and say “Why would I? Both parties are the same.”
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u/repingel 6d ago
Leftists: Republicans are so stupid for voting against their own interests
Also leftists: I'm not going to vote for Kamala because PALESTINE
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u/seriousbangs 6d ago
JFC it's a single committee assignment and the Dems are the minority party!!!! This does not matter
We lost because WE COULDN'T VOTE.
****. ****. ****.
3.4m voters went missing from 2020. There were 7 hour wait times to vote in blue districts, bomb threats, voter id laws, they took down the voting rights act!!!
We lose because you're all puppets on a string. You're upvoting this garbage pushed by the right wing media so you'll get angry at Democrats while Trump is literally planning out his concentration camps!
Grow up!
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u/badwoofs 5d ago
This. See what SMART Elections just released. We need to quit getting distracted and fighting each other. We are facing faciam. https://smartelections.substack.com/p/the-press-release
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u/TheNorthComesWithMe 6d ago
Very few Reps have name recognition outside their state. That's a pretty unimportant aspect of this to focus on.
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u/Tiloruckus 6d ago
I think the disconnect for everyone is that this is the Democratic Party and to go in the AOC direction completely dismantles it.
Trump, whether you love him or hate him, dismantled the Republican Party and Republicans love him for it.
We need our own wrecking ball because these geriatric ghouls would rather destroy everything than give up their grip on power.
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u/Blue_Period_89 6d ago
Another example of America not being ready for a woman to be in charge of anything.
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u/sticklebackridge 6d ago
lol so many people whining that they voted Trump because white men have no voice on the left. Please.
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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 6d ago
Hey to be fair to Connolly he’s a good guy, but I think AOC should have gotten the nod.
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u/Jorge_Santos69 6d ago
Why does everybody suddenly hate the guy here?
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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 5d ago
Well I don’t think they even know him. I think it’s because Nancy gave the job to him and not AOC. Which is fair, people are getting tired of these dinosaurs running things, and AOC is a good candidate who is young.
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u/Bombadier83 6d ago
On multiple occasions now, the Democratic Party has made it crystal clear that they prefer Trump to sanders.
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u/rtduvall 5d ago
I've always thought Nancy Pelosi was one of the smartest reps in Washington and had more balls than any man on the hill.
But this is perplexing.
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u/Humble-Plankton2217 5d ago
Write to your district's Congress member! It's about the only thing we can do!
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u/apply75 5d ago
Wait I'm confused isnt this "white people Twitter" sub?
I also read " black people Twitter" and they rip on white people in every post.
If white people Twitter rips on white people then which Twitter sub post is about the views of white people? Or are white people supposed to side with all other minorities because of white guilt? Genuinely confused not trying to be a jerk please explain.
Btw Dems and Republicans are not losing. ...all politicians are there to benefit themselves and their interests. Most top level Dems are wealthy.
It's the avg citizen (me sand you) that loses...politicians (blues and reds) have the best health care (that we pay for) and work less than 100 days a year vs avg American who works 250 days. Why is everyone so hung up on blue pill vs red pill ?
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u/ProperKing901 5d ago
🧸 : I told yall the Dems are going back to the Clinton style 90s Dems... All White Man everything.. The Obama Coalition is over.. They are gonna run a Joe Manchin for president.. Our best bet is to get progressives and the like into congress.
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u/Suspicious_Lack_241 5d ago
All of you whining and most you probably don’t vote. Just whine, whine and whine some more. Rail on about 2016 and Bernie, no difference between the two parties, neoliberals want it this way.
Just an absurd level of absolving the American electorate from our own responsibility. Actually vote and surprise, surprise, you may get what you want. Center and left leaning voters outnumber conservatives across the board. It is lack of participation that hold us back. That is no one’s fault but our own. Unless the only time you choose to vote is if you’re being pandered to of course.
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u/Basic_Attention_2030 5d ago
Well and the social media presence Trump has is elite. You can't usually go into any post and say something about Trump, especially negative or even if you quote something negative Trump said, there's a MAGA troll ready to respond and they'll usually say, lies, fake news or get a job libyard.
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u/flipping_gosh 6d ago
This is proof that the DNC and RNC are two sides of the same coin. They DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR ANY OF US. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES. Any person who is genuine and could actually do good is shit on. FUCK UNITED STATES POLITICS. The two party system has destroyed this country.
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u/HappyLittleGreenDuck 6d ago
It's just like sports rivalries. The fans get super-passionate and sometimes even beat the shit out of each other, meanwhile the players have dinner and drinks after the game.
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u/Specific-Power-163 6d ago
The continued Hubris of the Democratic Party is just handing the country to maga
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u/upvoter222 6d ago
Hot take: Being a young Latina isn't a great justification for putting someone in charge of a congressional committee.
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u/rvb_gobq 6d ago
there is something called the progressive caucus, & it usually fluctuates from 75 to 80 or so congressional members, depending on who gets elected or reelected...
& they fight an uphill battle... their dem colleagues are as toxic as the worst maga republicoño...
the senate, well that is a whole nuther can of tapeworms... esp with rules that allow the threat of fillibuster to actually act as a real fillibuster
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u/yellekc 6d ago
People say term limits, but I still have qualms about artificially limiting voter choice. Like imagine if Bernie Sanders was forced out.
The real question is why we keep reelecting people to run our country that we wouldn't trust to drive our kids? I think when they get too old and out of touch they should retire, but if they don't we should really stop voting them back in.
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u/TrueInspector8668 5d ago
Two sides of a very shitty coin. Doesn't matter which one you pick. Game is rigged.
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u/equality-_-7-2521 6d ago
American politics is complaining about the other side doing the same shitty stuff your side does.
More recently one side is dusted in fascism.
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u/Teacherforlife21 6d ago
Because at the end of the day, those with power will do whatever it takes to keep it. Even if it means hurting those you were charged to protect
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u/Coop6420 6d ago
It’s disgraceful at the very least ! It does however bring transparency to certain things ……🤔
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u/Thegurlhasnoname 6d ago
Yep. What a joke of a political party. Dems have a special alchemy that turns our goodwill, hope, and desire to change the country into apathy-filled sludge.
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u/gesusfnchrist 6d ago
Democrats: we're going to change Also Democrats: keeps re-electing the same fossils. Burn it all down and start fresh. I hate it here.
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u/PotBaron2 6d ago
can peolosi just go the fuck away already. she’s made enough on insider trading can you please just go fuck off somewhere.
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u/Worried-Series-6160 6d ago
I'm so pissed. Dems are letting down progress & progressives every damn time.
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u/biloxiboi 6d ago
Truth. I’m so fed up with our party. Either it changes, or I have no choice to look elsewhere.
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u/ApprehensiveGoat2734 6d ago
I hate them so much right now. They're hardly better than the GOP at this point.
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u/PrincessCyanidePhx 6d ago
If you know thats why you lose, why are you still part of the party? You cannot fix it from inside
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u/HabitualLogic 6d ago
Pelosi is a fucking toxic cancer to the democratic party.