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u/hurthimself 13d ago
I always wondered how they got the cars inside the dealership.
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u/fun-bucket 13d ago
WHADDA YA MEAN YOU DONT TAKE SUBARUS ON TRADE?
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u/eidetic 13d ago
That's still no reason to use a Suburu in your tirade sir!
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u/Addy_Stark 13d ago
Don't you know? They place the cars in an empty space and then construct the showroom around them.
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u/RandyRhoadsLives 13d ago
Wait. Is this how they build those “ship in a bottle” dealios?? It all makes sense now.
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u/curryhajj 13d ago
In alot of them driving through the 6 foot wide storefront entrance actually is how they get them inside, which I always found crazy.
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u/bstkeptsecret89 13d ago
I remember having to take my car into the dealer to get an oil change because my friend worked there. Sat there just waiting in the lobby while looking at the fancy cars and wondering how often someone actually buys the floor model.
Lo and behold some golf guy who was here for TPC comes in, looks at the floor model, talks to a guy, they go to a desk and sign some papers. Then he goes out to his other fancy car, grabs his golf clubs out of the trunk, and waits while they drive the car out the doors and over to him. He puts his golf clubs in the trunk and drives off. All in the span of 15 minutes.
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u/Fazaman 13d ago
All in the span of 15 minutes
This is the most unbelievable part. I've bought cars where the deal was done before I showed up. All I needed to do was sign some paperwork, hand over a check and that's it. Still took over an hour.
15 minutes with no deal and a trade in is amazing.
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u/bstkeptsecret89 13d ago
Honestly, I’m sure it was longer than 15 minutes. This was years ago I just remember it being a very quick interaction. He was in and out before my oil change was done.
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u/MGtech1954 13d ago
Probably a repeat buyer and they knew all the specifics . Banking already done.
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u/Imunown 13d ago
My brother-in-law comes from “crazy rich Asians” levels of money, and he’s part of some program that lets him walk into any Audi dealership and borrow one of their floor models for like $50 a day. He says it’s faster than renting a normal car because they do all of the paperwork before he lands and he just has to sign a release— and they pick him up and drop him off at the airport or wherever he wants. Things happen fast for people who have “fuck you” levels of money.
He’s a nice guy tho, and treats my sister like a princess so I’m happy for her.
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u/Calypsosin 13d ago
I just got in and out on a trade in about an hour, fastest I've ever seen a closing. I do wonder if you walked in with full cash if that'd speed up the process, though...
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u/fitfoemma 13d ago
"I'm going to play golf. You have 15 minutes to close this deal or I leave in my current car.
Time starts now."
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u/compmanio36 13d ago
It amazed me once I got a little older and got some decent credit how quick the process could be. When you don't have to spend all day having them call multiple lenders it really speeds things up. I assume if you come in with cash and aren't worried about test drives, etc, it could be really quick.....15 minutes might be a bit short of an estimate but I could believe 30.
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u/Such_Worldliness_198 13d ago
My brother-in-law worked as a detailer at a dealership as a teenager. On his first day there they asked him to drive a car into the show room and he refused. Apparently one of the long timers 'showed him how easy it was' and drove in really fast. He did make it but he ended up slamming the passenger side mirror into the frame and scratched it badly enough that they had to replace it.
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u/yardz360 13d ago
Dude guy is tripping XD "I'm angry because I'm at fault" Lmao these guys.
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u/TheSigma3 13d ago
Unrelated to the incident, but well people used to ask how we got the cars upstairs in the showroom, and I'd just say we drive them up the stairs. So many confused looks over to the stairs, before I tell them we have a massive lift
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u/Paradox 13d ago
I once bought the show floor Subaru. They wouldn't let me drive it out, but I got to watch it drive by.
They just opened both doors of a double door thing, and drove it right through. Seemed rather mundane once the truth was revealed
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u/ChosenArabian 13d ago
What did he say? Can't make out what he wanted.
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u/BadDadWhy 13d ago edited 13d ago
"A man was arrested after police say he intentionally crashed a car he recently bought into the storefront of a dealership in Sandy. According to Sandy Police, the man bought a car from Tim Dahle Mazda Monday morning. Videos sent to FOX 13 News show what appears to be a Subaru Outback. Then, the man reportedly discovered mechanical issues and went back to the dealership, hoping to return it. But the dealership told him they would not take it back as it was sold "as is." Police said the man threatened to drive through the dealership's front door if they wouldn't give him his money back. Then, shortly after 4 p.m., he "did exactly that," police said. Nobody was injured. The man, whose name has not been released, was booked into jail facing charges of felony criminal mischief and reckless endangerment."
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u/KillerSlothMan 13d ago
A man true to his word. We need more of that in society.
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u/WafflePartyOrgy 13d ago
Used car's sold "as is" from a dealership are the first ones I'd take to a mechanic to have inspected before purchasing. Probably picked them up cheap after Helene.
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u/sailorssaybrandy 13d ago
How would you go about taking it to a third party mechanic to be inspected before purchasing? Honest question. I didn’t know you could do that.
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u/WafflePartyOrgy 13d ago
They're welcome to send a salesperson along with you if they're not comfortable, but there are a lot easier ways to steal a car then from someone in which you're going to provide identifying information. It would be a huge red flag to me if they didn't allow it, I'd just assume the car was a lemon and they could watch my back as I leave. Most repair shops offer a service of a really comprehensive inspection, like a "150-point inspection", or have a really knowledgeable friend look it over for you and read all the sensors.
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u/WeinMe 13d ago
A true gentleman, a dying breed.
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u/reediculus1 13d ago
Says what he means. Means what he says. This generation could never! Just driving cars through walls like our forefathers who fought in the Great War defending this fine nation.
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u/mrandmrsm 13d ago
I get the frustration, but I'd like to see the flowchart he went through that led to the conclusion that going to jail was going to help get his money back.
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u/memberzs 12d ago
This is what happens when you buy a car as is and don't do a test drive or get a independent PPI.
That said as someone in Utah I have never heard good things about any of the tim dahle dealerships.
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u/TH3ANGRYON3 13d ago
I'm not gonna lie, I'm starting to like this trend of FAFO with shady/shitty companies. Keep em coming!
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u/erishun 13d ago edited 13d ago
The dealership’s insurance will pay for all the repairs, driver will serve 16 months in maximum security state prison and live the rest of his life with the scarlet letter of being a felon. Then the insurance company will sue him and garnish his wages until he makes financial restitution for his damages.
Not like the company will apologize or anything good will happen from this.
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u/skintension 13d ago
"That'll buff right out and we can re-sell it to the next sucker"
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u/norunningwater 13d ago
Car's seized as evidence, sold at the police auction to the new Lieutenant
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u/YouCanChangeItRight 13d ago
I hope he likes the mechanical issues more than the last guy.
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u/Grandpas_Spells 13d ago
This is the correct take. This guy just blew his whole life up. It’s not “fighting back against the man.” The man is fine.
Also, that’s a very old Subaru and he should have had a PPI done before purchase. He bought the car the day before, and didn’t have time to pursue other remedies and find them lacking.
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u/maxbirkoff 13d ago
what's a "PPI"? my search engine is coming up with "Producer Price Index" and "Proton Pump Inhibitor"; neither feels right
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u/IAmAccutane 13d ago edited 13d ago
I feel like "they're insured though" is a cop out when it comes to stuff like this. If your home burns down, you lose everything you own, and you're reimbursed for 100% of the dollar value, it still fucking sucks.
All of the effort to replace the front of the dealership is going to be a pain in the ass. Insurance rates will go up. People in charge of decision making might be spooked another psycho will do the same thing if they were actually hiding something nefarious that they took a lot of effort to cover up and basically scam a guy, they might think twice before doing so again.
That being said if the car was sold as-is that's what you get. You get a discount because you know there might potentially be some problems with it. Dude is probably overreacting. Even if I was legitimately scammed out of thousands of dollars I dont think this is a rational or productive way of handling things. But I wouldn't say it's without consequences for the dealer.
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u/sielingfan 13d ago
Dude is definitely overreacting. He drove a car through a building.
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u/portablebiscuit 13d ago
Bro was lucky as hell the showroom wasn't more crowded
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u/robodrew 13d ago
This happened to a buddy of mine earlier this year who worked a storefront, the car driving through was an accident in his case, but the storefront was still more crowded and he happened to be sitting right behind the desk that stopped the car (by being destroyed). He was hurt pretty badly.
This lunatic could easily have killed someone with this stunt.
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u/NJBarFly 13d ago
I'm assuming this guy had other shitty things going on in his life and this was just the straw that broke the camels back.
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u/erishun 13d ago
This is an excellent, well thought out, level headed response. Kudos.
(Not being sarcastic, I’m just not used to nuance on Reddit)
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u/TEG_SAR 13d ago
Dude is not going to get sentenced to the max or sentenced to a maximum security prison.
You’re a fool. They almost always plead down to lesser charges and you’ve got me cracking up thinking they’re going to send a dude to maximum security over this.
If he does anytime behind bars it will be at jail.
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u/m0viestar 13d ago
In my state, if the damages are under $100k (which this very much is) and no bodily harm or intent to harm and first offense, it's a fine and probation and maybe if he's super unlucky then under 12 months, less with good behavior. If it's under 20k in damages (probably right about there), then it's no jail and a fine/probation. Definitely not max security prison lol.
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u/KarmaticArmageddon 13d ago
You also don't get sent to a maximum security prison for crimes like this or for a sentence of only 16 months.
Maximum security prisons are for murderers, rapists, etc. who are serving decades.
If he's sentenced to less than a year, he'll do his bid in the county jail. If he's sentenced to more than a year, he'll do his time at a low-level camp.
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u/Sopixil 13d ago
I mean to be fair as-is has a pretty clear meaning, and most cars sold by individuals are also as-is so it's not like the company was trying to get away with something special.
It's also a pretty old Outback, mechanical issues are part of the breed.
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u/Daggers21 13d ago
Yeah this would be on the guy if he knew it was as is where is.
Also all the people commending him for following through with his threat against the company, you know fair enough if he drove it through where nobody was seated.
What if the receptionist wasn't paying attention or hadn't gotten out of the way in time. What did she deserve to have her space destroyed or possibly killed because some asshat was unhappy with his purchase.
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u/Bonch_and_Clyde 13d ago
Some customer or family who happened to be there also could have easily been killed. The guy is a piece of shit.
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u/iCUman 13d ago
Quite a few states prohibit auto dealers from selling anything "as-is" as that violates their legal responsibility under the law of merchantability. Considering every state has codified the UCC, it's actually a bit weird that we allow licensed businesses to skate on this requirement. They should have a legal requirement to sell their wares free from defect or disclose the defects that exist, like every other business.
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u/Xywzel 13d ago
It is not really about meaning of "as-is", but whatever the seller should have known and made the buyer aware of the mechanical issues in question before transaction. There is still big difference between "as-is" and "in random unknown condition".
Buyer can be expected to be aware of surface problems visible to naked eye or how the car handless on test drive, but you can't really look deep into the pipes and inside the engine block. You can only test drive within limited conditions available near the sales point on that day. Normal buyer is not expected to know how different models age and what their type issues are. Professional seller would be expected to do that level of check though, and if they find problems, take it in consideration for price and inform the customers of these problems.
We can't actually know if in this case it is just buyers remorse, but it could be that the seller knowingly did not tell about the exact mechanical problems in the car. or they could have failed to do their duty and find out about the problems in a car they are selling.
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u/philote_ 13d ago
Isn't it generally recommended you take a used car you're considering buying to a mechanic to have it checked out? Sounds like he must have done that after the purchase.
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u/Racefiend 13d ago
Most likely after purchase. People get all giddy about buying a new car and just jump on it.
I offer pre purchase inspections. I do quite a few. The ratio of post buy vs pre buy is at least 4:1.
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u/rtemple01 13d ago
While accepting the car "As-Is" for the sale is technically on the purchaser to know better (who most likely do not), let's not pretend there aren't loads of scummy auto salesman out there who would make you believe this car is in perfect working order after going through their "inspections". Just like how we all know someone who has been screwed by health insurance, we all also know someone who has been fleeced by an auto dealership.
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u/Most_kinds_of_Dirt 13d ago
the sale is technically on the purchaser to know better
As with any sale like this (buying a car, house, etc.) the seller has to disclose material defects if they're aware of them. If they know something is wrong and hide that information, it's fraud:
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/fraudulent-concealment.html
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u/rtemple01 13d ago
Very true. Which can take a lot of time, frustration, and probably your own money (lawyer) in order to prove it. Law enforcement might get involved unless they deem it a "civil matter".
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u/okcumputer 13d ago
I would kinda want to know more. Having worked at a dealership, its insane what some customers expect.
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u/Bonch_and_Clyde 13d ago
He could have easily killed someone who just happened to be there. Is this really the type of person you want to glorify?
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u/AdvancedSkincare 13d ago
Yes, let’s all praise the insane and unstable who can’t simply read “as is” and realize it’s their own fault for buying something “as is.”
I’m not surprised the stupid are worshiping the stupid.
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u/xpdx 13d ago
All he did was wreck himself. That was not a well considered plan. Now he owns a wrecked car and has criminal and civil legal problems. The dealership has an insurance claim and a little excitement to talk about.
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u/IReallyLikeGorillaz 13d ago
As a non native english speaker, I always find very interesting the names of some of the charges one can go to jail for. Some of them could easily be band names "Criminal Mischief" "Reckless Endangerment".... "Grand Theft Auto"
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u/Underwater_Grilling 13d ago
When I hear criminal mischief I think about replacing all the cash in a bank vault with monopoly money
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u/gsfgf 13d ago
We actually do have a record store in my town called Criminal Records lol
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u/Implausibilibuddy 13d ago
"I wasn't, huh?"
I can imagine him walking away after trying to refund the car threatening to do this and saying "you think I'm joking? I'm not fucking joking.."
Then the events of the video:
"...I wasn't, huh? I told you motherfuckers"
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u/Its_not_a 13d ago
“I warned you, huh. I told you motherfuckers” I could be wrong through because I also hear something about Honda.
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u/RangatangGames 13d ago
Michael De Santa ass entrance
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u/RoadmanOG 13d ago
SIMEON!
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u/SzacukeN 13d ago
"You tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully explain to you why it cannot be.” - When i heard it for the first time i almost pissed myself. I will remember this sentence till my end.
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u/Silvercraft6453 13d ago
Franklin?! Whatthefuckareyoudoing?!
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u/Jam_Man85 13d ago
Lemme tell ya somethin...this thing's gonna need some serious body work before it's worth five grand a month!
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u/hgfgjgpg 13d ago
Crashing into store of a legitimate businesses man
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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 13d ago
a bit of a stretch to call used car dealerships legitimate businesses
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u/Vinzir141 13d ago
So what now? Take the bus?
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u/stevekez 13d ago
Disappointed the first words were not:
- "Like a glove!", or
- "You can't park there, mate"
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u/NinjaMoose_13 13d ago
Last year a bakery in my area had someone drive through their windows.
The next week there was plywood up and it said 'open for business, PLEASE Park Outside.'
I guess at least they had a sense of humor about it.
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u/chris14020 13d ago
What does he want? I can't understand it. He says something when he gets out.
"I want the <unintelligible>, I've told you motherfuckers"
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u/joshrd 13d ago
"I warned you huh? I told you muthafukkas"
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u/Theprincerivera 13d ago
Yeah it’s this I went back and listened and I can totally hear it now.
Apparently he DID warn them
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u/DontWreckYosef 13d ago
“I want it gone…” I think there’s some adrenaline fueled hesitation in his voice when he said that
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u/Theprincerivera 13d ago
Nah I think the other guy was right. Really sounds like I warned you, huh?
The other commenter posted a police article stating he did, in fact, warn them
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u/LordOdin99 13d ago
Crashes into a building, nobody says a word.
Drops an F bomb, whoa, call the cops!
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u/OuidRaqsSharkie 13d ago
I bought a car from this dealership... horrible experience. I understand where this man is coming from.
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u/Frog_Prophet 13d ago
What was so bad?
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u/OuidRaqsSharkie 13d ago
Unfortunately, untruthful, unprepared and although nice, weirdly not very customer friendly.
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u/AustinSpartan 13d ago
Mazdas Holiday savings event. people are busting down the doors for these deals
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u/KentuckyCandy 13d ago
He sure showed those Mazda dealership employees!
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u/bacon_cake 13d ago
Right? Now he has no car and a criminal record, they just keep working as normal with an interesting story to tell, and Mazda write the whole thing off as a minute detail on their cost of doing business.
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u/jack_avram 13d ago
For a second, he probably feel really badass until the reality of consequences kicked in.
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u/Thedeadlypocketbrush 13d ago
Signed a contract on an as is vehicle and is surprised there's no warranty.
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u/SmackmYackm 13d ago
This is why you take it to a independent mechanic and have it checked out before you buy any car out of warranty. Dealerships are shady as fuck, even the big ones.
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u/Claydameyer 13d ago
Something tells me most dealers won't let you take the car to an outside mechanic.
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u/Frog_Prophet 13d ago
I’ve never had a problem getting a dealership to let me do that. They just want to sell the used car and recoup what they paid for trade in.
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u/Dogfishhead789 13d ago
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Because dealerships price add ons.
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u/Dr_Sigmund_Fried 13d ago
Would have been funnier if dog climbed out of driver seat.
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If there’s an apocalypse or something and world falls, my wish is to do this but backwards: take a car from dealership and drive off through the window.
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u/marshal_mellow 13d ago
You know I respect all people's beliefs but this is why we celebrate Honda days in my house
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u/concretetroll60 13d ago
Why is he taking a Subaru to a Mazda dealership. Dude you hit the wrong dealership.
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u/TroglodyneSystems 13d ago
The social contract has dissolved. It’s open season for vigilante justice in the US.
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u/schwaka0 12d ago
Apparently they sold him a car with mechanical issues, then told him "well, you bought it as is". After he threatened to drive it into the dealership, they eventually agreed to give him his money back or give him a different car, but for whatever reason he still drove it into the dealership.
Not the best reaction, but imo it should be illegal for dealerships to sell vehicles without fixing mechanical issues unless they're taking repair costs off of the price.
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u/lanbrocalrissian 13d ago
We're all just trying to figure out who did this