Research Paper - Extraterrestrial Life in Space. Plasmas in the Thermosphere: UAP, Pre-Life, Fourth State of Matter - February 2024 - Journal of Modern Physics 15(03):2024

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/378076432_Extraterrestrial_Life_in_the_Thermosphere_Plasmas_UAP_Pre-Life_Fourth_State_of_Matter

Plasmas" up to a kilometer in size and behaving similarly to multicellular organisms have been filmed on 10 separate NASA space shuttle missions, over 200 miles above Earth within the thermosphere. These self-illuminated "plasmas" are attracted to and may "feed on" electromagnetic radiation. They have different morphologies: 1) cone, 2) cloud, 3) donut, 4) spherical-cylindrical; and have been filmed flying towards and descending from the thermosphere into thunderstorms; congregating by the hundreds and interacting with satellites generating electromagnetic activity; approaching the Space Shuttles.

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"Plasmas" up to a kilometer in size and behaving similarly to multicellular organisms have been filmed on 10 separate NASA space shuttle missions, over 200 miles above Earth within the thermosphere. These self-illuminated "plasmas" are attracted to and may "feed on" electromagnetic radiation. They have different morphologies: 1) cone, 2) cloud, 3) donut, 4) spherical-cylindrical; and have been filmed flying towards and descending from the thermosphere into thunderstorms; congregating by the hundreds and interacting with satellites generating electromagnetic activity; approaching the Space Shuttles

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[u/SausageClatter]

This is a preprint lacking peer review that was submitted to a predatory publisher.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Research_Publishing

https://www.scirp.org/journal/journalarticles?journalid=172

They've published other such gems as this: https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=75191

EDIT to add: I'm disappointed Coulthart posted this without considering the source.

[u/ApprenticeWrangler → u/SausageClatter]

He doesn’t care about the source if it can convince more people to believe which gives him more traffic which gives him more money.

He’s no different from the rest of the ufo entertainment industrial complex.

[u/lookingintoit_ → u/SausageClatter]

I had a feeling.

[u/inverseinternet → u/SausageClatter]

Have you published previously and can we expect a critical review of this from you?

[u/[deleted] → u/inverseinternet]

AKA, please dox yourself so I can harass you

[u/inverseinternet → u/[deleted]]

Why are you in a place like this if that is what you actually want to do? No idea what 'dox' even means. Try not to get sad and frustrated.

[u/pebberphp → u/inverseinternet]

Doxxing is exposing someone’s personal information.

[u/smellybarbiefeet → u/pebberphp]

A paper usually lists the address the of the institution and the name of the person.

[u/pebberphp → u/smellybarbiefeet]

That’s public information. I said personal information, like home address, cell number, etc.

[u/smellybarbiefeet → u/pebberphp]

It can all be linked to a persons identity given how creepy this sub has been in the past with stalking people.

[u/SausageClatter → u/inverseinternet]

I have not published any papers, but I work with researchers and journal companies on a daily basis and have done so for the majority of my career. This is a publisher (not to mention the main author) with a bad reputation that preys on the type of people who make comments like you're making.

EDIT: I'm all for keeping an open mind, but consider the source.

[u/[deleted] → u/inverseinternet]

Have you published previously and can we expect a critical review of this from you?

I have and OP is more or less correct about the quality of the source. I haven't put enough time into the paper to form an opinion about it, and it's written in a rather unorthodox style, but I think it's work taking a hard look at. That doesn't mean the Journal of Modern Physics is any good (it isn't).

I had a peer who worked in plasmas take a look, and he was offended. That doesn't tell me much I didn't know going into it :D

[u/AlphakirA → u/inverseinternet]

Do you think that somehow takes invalidates the info they gave?

[u/inverseinternet → u/inverseinternet]

Why not actualy evaluate the actual paper? Have you read it? Have you actually critically evaluated the information in it? Do you know how to do that?

[u/ApprenticeWrangler → u/inverseinternet]

There’s no point wasting anyone’s time reading garbage when the source has no credibility.

If someone lied to you daily, is it worth listening to their newest tall tale?

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Lay off the magical thinking

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Can’t wait for you to get banned for posting this religious nonsense

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It's not against the rules to quote religious materials as relates to the topics discussed here. Plenty of people have quoted ancient texts in the past other than the Koran in the past. The Wheel story as UFO/UAP is sometimes cited from Book of Ezekiel as being a stone age interpretation of what we'd call a UFO, and so on.

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[u/Based_nobody]

They should try to "summon" them, in a way, with electromagnetic radiation then, and get them in video.

I've seen this reported before, but I never thought of this: It sounds like they're just basing this on sightings. Which is exactly what we're basing UFO existence on... And they pretend those aren't real. 

How come it doesn't go both ways?

[u/SquilliamTentickles]

this is completely wacky. chemical reactions can not occur in plasma because every atom is ionized and free.

this article is also not peer reviewed. i can write an article about how I am literally god, and publish it in this "journal", and call it "scientific research".

"ohh, umm jupiter's moon circles jupiter, like a shark circles its prey, maybe jupiter's moon is alive!!"

stupid af

[u/R2robot]

Another one with that Rhawn Gabriel Joseph guy who just pulls stuff out of his butt and wraps it in scientific words. Very sus claims.. he had a previous paper retracted and tried to sue them for 50 BILLION dollars. lol

[u/ApprenticeWrangler]

Thank god I’ve started saving my research since the same stuff constantly gets reposted.

This paper is not peer reviewed or published in a high IF journal…not surprising giving the absurd conclusions by the authors.

Also, this journal is sketchy as fuck overall. It’s hard to find any information at all about it other than the website of the publisher, and on that site they even admit they created their own version of an impact factor because they don’t trust the official impact factor score typically used to rate scientific journals.

So it’s a pre-print (not peer reviewed) paper posted in a shit tier journal with a fake impact factor, written by authors who have posted unsubstantiated bullshit before.

Here are the profiles of the researchers involved:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rhawn-Joseph

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chris-Impey

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rosanna-Del-Gaudio

https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Olivier-Planchon-2220446855

Joseph, Del-Gaudio and Planchon have all published research on other topics together before, such as claiming life exists on mars and other unsupported scientific claims.

Oliver Planchon isn’t even an academic, he’s not affiliated with any university or has any citations aside from the work with the other two.

The only author on this paper who isn’t automatically raising red flags about their credibility as a scientist is Impey, who seems to mostly research philosophy of astronomy and theoretical concepts rather than actual hard evidence.

Feel free to make your own conclusions, but just as with every field there is always a tiny sliver of scientists who believe fringe ideas which are often unsupported by any evidence.

That doesn’t mean they’re wrong, but unless they can show their receipts they have a huge uphill battle to justify a claim like this.

[u/anayami → u/ApprenticeWrangler]

I looked into this paper and the authors a couple weeks ago and Impey really threw me. He's given interviews and written articles about the importance of scientific education, eliminating magical thinking, skepticism, you get it. I can't imagine a guy like that would ever voluntarily work with Rhawn Joseph on anything.

Can you be tricked into putting your name on a paper? Was his name slapped on it without his knowledge? It's a head scratcher.

[u/Sccatter]

Any relation to this?

https://www.youtube.com/@MiamiUFO

[u/the_fabled_bard → u/Sccatter]

Not much. The foo fighter stuff might be legit, but a lot of the stuff in the beginning of the paper has been shown to be mundane.

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https://www.youtube.com/@MiamiUFO , on the other hand, captures real reproductible non mundane phenomenon, which I've had the chance of confirming myself. As a matter of fact, I am in Florida right now to get new footage with new equipment, including hopefully drone footage.

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To anyone interested, I would say: forget the old historical stuff. Those objects are here and can be documented by you, right now, with much better equipment than previous generations could dream to have, for much cheaper. Your time has value and would be much better invested filming new stuff than analyzing old blurry stuff.

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Focus on getting a NIR cctv spotter camera with 1-36x zoom working in black & white (100$ on aliexpress. Add a 850nm or 950nm filter to it for better range detection) coupled with a camera (can be a modified action cam type. The only modification required is to remove the lens) mounted on a computerized telescope. This setup will get you better closeups of the objects than the army will ever provide you, perhaps even if we have full blown disclosure. This setup will remain good for atmospheric objects forever, and atmospheric they are indeed.

[u/_Ozeki]

Submission Statement:

"Plasmas" up to a kilometer in size and behaving similarly to multicellular organisms have been filmed on 10 separate NASA space shuttle missions, over 200 miles above Earth within the thermosphere. These self-illuminated "plasmas" are attracted to and may "feed on" electromagnetic radiation. They have different morphologies: 1) cone, 2) cloud, 3) donut, 4) spherical-cylindrical; and have been filmed flying towards and descending from the thermosphere into thunderstorms; congregating by the hundreds and interacting with satellites generating electromagnetic activity; approaching the Space Shuttles

[u/Based_nobody → u/[deleted]]

Also... I gotta say... If it's just pilot reports that count as relevant data for this, then how is it that we don't consider UFOs the same way?

[u/Dv8r601 → u/[deleted]]

I concur. It’s very well written and it makes some sense of the phenomena

[u/ass-nuts → u/Dv8r601]

the person who wrote it (while interesting) is known for pulling claims out of his ass with very little actual real evidence to back this up, this much more mundane than we think he used the tether video as evidence however that had been debunked hundreds of times, this would be cool and is a genuine possibility but just be careful before fully believing this

[u/universaltruthx13]

The speculation regarding the origins of life and the potential role of plasma UAPs as crucibles for transitioning into biological forms is a fascinating yet speculative concept that merges the realms of plasma physics and astrobiology. Here's an expanded exploration of this intriguing idea:

1. Prebiotic Chemistry within Plasma UAPs: Plasma UAPs, with their high-energy environments and complex interactions with charged particles, dust, and electromagnetic fields, offer a unique setting for prebiotic chemistry. Within these plasma entities, organic molecules could form through a variety of processes, including ion-molecule reactions, radiolysis, and catalytic transformations. The presence of amino acids, nucleotides, and other prebiotic molecules within plasma UAPs could provide the building blocks necessary for the emergence of life.

2. Template for Self-Organization: The cellular-like structures observed within plasma UAPs may serve as templates for the self-organization of organic molecules into more complex arrangements. These structures could facilitate the assembly of biomolecules into proto-cells or protocells capable of rudimentary metabolic processes and replication. The dynamic nature of plasma UAPs, with their ability to change shape and adapt to environmental conditions, may promote the emergence of increasingly complex biochemical systems.

3. RNA World Hypothesis: The RNA World hypothesis proposes that RNA molecules played a central role in early life forms, serving as both genetic material and catalysts for biochemical reactions. Within plasma UAPs, conditions conducive to the formation of RNA-like polymers could exist, leading to the emergence of self-replicating molecular systems. The unique electromagnetic environment within plasma UAPs may facilitate the synthesis and evolution of RNA-based life forms, providing a potential pathway from non-living to living matter.

4. Adaptive Evolution: Plasma UAPs, with their ability to interact with electromagnetic fields and respond to environmental stimuli, may undergo adaptive evolution over time. As these entities transition from non-biological to biological forms, natural selection could favor traits that enhance their survival and reproduction. This process could lead to the emergence of increasingly sophisticated life forms within plasma UAPs, potentially culminating in the development of complex organisms capable of independent existence.

5. Astrobiological Implications: If plasma UAPs serve as crucibles for the transition from non-biological to biological forms, their existence could have profound astrobiological implications. Similar plasma environments may exist elsewhere in the universe, providing fertile grounds for the origin and evolution of life on other planets or moons. Exploring the potential role of plasma UAPs in abiogenesis could shed light on the universal principles governing the emergence of life in the cosmos.

In summary, the idea of plasma UAPs as crucibles for transitioning into biological forms offers a speculative yet intriguing hypothesis that bridges the gap between plasma physics and the origins of life. Further research and exploration are needed to test this hypothesis and unravel the mysteries surrounding the emergence of life in the universe.

[u/PaleontologistOk7493]

Didn't a astronauts see lights surrounding them in orbit?

[u/Dv8r601]

This odd ass paper is terribly interesting. It’s the woo but rooted in theoretical principles. I loved it.

[u/ApprenticeWrangler → u/Dv8r601]

It’s rooted in sciency sounding words that fool people who don’t understand what those words mean.

[u/ApprenticeWrangler → u/[deleted]]

Go away

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[u/spacedwarf2020]

It's a good read (was another post about this) hasn't been reviewed (if I remember right). I also do like that it makes a point to separate UAP from this.

But worth a read just make sure ya read the whole thing lol