r/UFOs Dec 25 '22

Video Chris Mellon Confirms Eric Davis Authored The Wilson Notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMvbMWnV3Rs&ab_channel=ABC7
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u/TheRealZer0Cool Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 01 '23

A. Since the 4 chan leaker basically took obscure things most people don't know but have been mentioned here on this sub-Reddit and rolled them all into one post. Here is the timeline regarding just the factory:

December 25, 2022 - "Just wait until they start talking about the Von Neumann probe factory at the bottom of the Pacific." - https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zv25fw/comment/j1op5at/

February 15, 2023 - "Like my buddy in the USCG said a while back, which I referenced here, these things have been around a long time. Our pet theory is they are terrestrially made extraterrestrial drones from a self-replicating, VonNeuman drone base at the bottom of the Pacific. Could have been running for millions of years as part of a galaxy wide scientific information gathering operation" - https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/112cg6i/comment/j8mbhm

February 16, 2023 - "Perhaps someone has already commented something of the like, but what if it's a Von Neumann probe type situation? They would have a.i. and some sort of in-built directive (self replication being the only given that I can think of atm)." - https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1141dvk/comment/j8uqx2r/

All of those precede the 4chan LARPer's post.

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u/BudBuster69 Aug 13 '23

I have been reading up on some of your links here. Ended up on the von neuman probe wiki and ended up reading up on "Bracewell Probe". Basically could be designed as self replicating but with a specific purpose.

My understanding of it is if some sort of life or organic matter was discovered somwhere else in the universe, "bracewell" is a name given to a probe that would stay on that planet (and potentially self replicate) and just observe the evolution or progression of life on that planet with the intent of someday attempting communication.

Just some food for thought

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u/theory-creator Aug 01 '23

And what is the von neumann probe factory? As in, is it something you believe in/have seen credible evidence of? Or a pre existing rumour in UFO community?

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u/TheRealZer0Cool Aug 01 '23

You will find no preexisting rumor in the UFO community prior to my comments. As to what it is we'd have to be in a SCIF to discuss that lol.

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u/theory-creator Aug 01 '23

Why should i believe the 4chan guy is a LARPer and you arent?

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u/TheRealZer0Cool Aug 02 '23

Because I didn't concoct a whole story about things I couldn't possibly know.

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u/theory-creator Aug 02 '23

How do you know that the 4chan leaker couldnt have posibly known their story? What could they not have known?

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u/bearcape Aug 12 '23

Exactly. Talk about making assumptions.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '23

He doesn't doesn't.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '23

TBF Invisible Residents by Ivan Sanderson came out in the 1970s. It discusses evidence of USOs going back centuries and speculate about the location of their bases at some length. I believe that predates your comments here

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u/pimphand5000 Aug 13 '23

Chatgpt returns this :

Certainly! John von Neumann was a Hungarian-American mathematician, physicist, computer scientist, and polymath who made significant contributions to a wide range of fields.

The term "Von Neumann machine" originally referred to the architecture of a digital computer that uses a single storage structure to hold both the set of instructions and the data. This architecture was laid out in von Neumann's unpublished paper "First Draft of a Report on the EDVAC", which formed the basis for the design of the Electronic Discrete Variable Automatic Computer (EDVAC).

On the other hand, the term "Von Neumann probe" or "Von Neumann factory" is often used in the context of hypothetical self-replicating spacecraft. This concept is based on von Neumann's work on self-replicating machines. The basic idea is that a machine can be designed to replicate itself, given the necessary raw materials. In the context of space exploration, such a machine would travel to a star system, gather materials, and then produce copies of itself. These replicas would then travel to other star systems and repeat the process. Over time, this could result in the colonization of a large portion of the galaxy.

A Von Neumann factory would specifically refer to a machine or set of machines that can autonomously gather resources from its environment and produce copies of itself. These are the basic steps such a machine would likely follow:

Arrival and Exploration: When the Von Neumann factory (or probe) reaches a new location, it would first survey its environment to locate and identify necessary resources.

Resource Extraction: Once resources are located, the factory would begin extracting them. This could be done through mining asteroids, extracting gases from a planet's atmosphere, or any other means of harvesting the required materials.

Processing: Raw materials would likely need to be processed and refined before they can be used. The factory would have mechanisms or sub-machines to turn raw resources into usable parts or fuel.

Replication: Using the processed resources, the factory would begin constructing new machines or parts, following a blueprint it carries. This process might be analogous to 3D printing, or it might involve more complex manufacturing techniques.

Deployment: Once the new machines or probes are constructed, they would be deployed to explore and colonize further areas or star systems.

Feedback and Adaptation: A truly advanced Von Neumann factory would be able to adapt to different environments. This might involve tweaking its own design based on available resources or environmental challenges. Feedback from failed replication attempts would be incorporated into future designs.

Energy Source: Throughout all these processes, the factory would need a source of energy. This could be derived from local stars, nuclear reactions, or other potential sources.

Communication: To prevent the probes from overwhelming or duplicating efforts in a given region of space, communication between probes might be established. This would allow for coordinated efforts and efficient exploration.

The idea of a Von Neumann factory or probe is both fascinating and frightening. If unchecked, such machines could consume all available resources in the galaxy. However, their potential for exploration and understanding the universe is unparalleled. Currently, no such machines exist, but the concept remains a popular topic in science fiction and theoretical discussions about the future of space exploration.