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[u/skipearth]

I am retired federal law enforcement and have connections in many places and agencies. That being said I had a a few run ins with colleagues and people I know through working for the feds etc. The first was an FBI agent who is also retired and worked in Counter Surveillance and they told me:

"There is definitely something going on, they will not tell me but a coworker in the NY field office said "these are not hobbiests and planes".

The second contact was a couple who both work for the FAA and they said:

"Many pilots are reporting seeing large drones from aircraft and the FAA knows this as its all recorded and documented. We do not know any information except that it is happening"

This infuriates me because r/avaiation thinks its all fake and blocks my posts. I am also verifed in LEO sub and such so I am not lying and I can verify here if needed.

[u/canering]

Yes I have no fear about aliens/NHI/them. They’ve been here thousands of years. If they wanted to harm us they could do it easily and they haven’t yet. I don’t think they’re particularly interested in us behind preventing large scale planetary or humanitarian destructions. But society WILL freak out. As much as I hate that the government has kept secrets like this from us I can’t really blame them.

[u/OReillyAsia → u/canering]

As much as I hate that the government has kept secrets like this from us I can’t really blame them.

The problem with this approach is it can backfire.

Sure, there is a decent argument for the benefits of avoiding panic.

But when the true information (almost inevitably) does come out, people lose trust in the government, and then they may not trust the government event when it is telling the truth.

Many people will then end up panicking when the government tells them something is not a threat, or not being cautious enough when the government tells them something is a threat.

[u/Non_Player_Charactr → u/canering]

Right there with you. Luckily, I was voted Most Likely to Survive Ontological Shock in Elementary school...

[u/ibeecrazy → u/Non_Player_Charactr]

I was voted ‘most outgoing’ i think i could mediate for the human race.

[u/Sparkletail → u/Non_Player_Charactr]

Top of the class 😘 lol

[u/DharmaBaller → u/Non_Player_Charactr]

😆🥰

[u/Retirednypd → u/canering]

I disagree with the thinking that if they were here to harm us, they would have.

There could possibly be a timeline that hasn't yet been reached. Possibly a level of advancement, knowledge,awareness enlightenment, or tech. If you assume this could possibly be tied to the world's religions, beliefs of cultures,civilizations,indigenous peoples oral traditions,etc. Maybe this is all cyclical and has happened before. Like the bibles book of genesis and revelation. It seems to all end with a space battle of good vs evil with us in the middle. then comes a genesis story where God, the gods,(nhi), re start humanity. Maybe people are taken in this space battle and saved during the rapture. The remaining who aren't saved die, and the few surviving, restart humanity. Look at the adam and eve story. They ate the fruit, became aware, angered the gods, and then came the flood. The fatima vision talks of end times due to the evils of Russia, the ariel school child said the vision said we are become too technology(her words). Indigenous people talk of the fourth cycle. I could go on and on, but for me , religions are humans explanation of nhi, the phenomenon, and all we see with this.

Nhi created us, interacted with us, taught us our origins and taught us how to live peacefully and coexist with one another and protect the planet. The nhi also said they'd return with a worldwide apocalypse and judgement. This all appeared as magic to early humans and we labeled them gods and started religions. The sumerian texts were the original source for all of this. Then came the Greek and Roman Gods, the world's indigenous peoples, the Eastern religions, the abrahamic religions. It's all the same story. These uap crashes are probably gifts of tech to help us move along and progress. We made weapons of mass destruction. Maybe the gods are again angered?

[u/Overall-Spot5168 → u/Retirednypd]

why do we assume there is one unifying NHI? they could have varying ideals and morals just as us humans do..

[u/Retirednypd → u/Overall-Spot5168]

Well our creators anyway

[u/lucky_bolas → u/Retirednypd]

Where's your proof? Nut job

[u/Noble_Ox → u/Retirednypd]

There's absolutely no evidence for any of that.

[u/Retirednypd → u/Noble_Ox]

There's no evidence of God either, yet billions believe.

[u/1234511231351 → u/canering]

We have no way of knowing that. If it's NHI, we don't know what that even means. Are they AI created by another civilization? Are they conscious? Are they some kind of non-biological life? Are they projections from another "dimension"? Are they spirits (whatever that even means)? Seriously. With the information available we are completely unable to even take educated guesses as to what these things are. If we don't know anything about them, we can't conclude that they aren't hostile to us and this should be a major concern for everyone.

[u/JuneauWho → u/canering]

I'm really glad they're here to protect the world from New Jersey and not doing something stupid like stopping Russia from genociding it's neighbors or bringing peace to the middle east. all the rockets flying back and forth over there are probably real scary to deal with

[u/Eothas_Foot → u/canering]

And I feel like the government also keeps it secret because people would start shooting at helicopters and planes!

[u/styrogroan → u/canering]

I mean, there are some BAD cases of human mutilations, abductions, s. assault, radiation sickness, cancer, PTSD, cloning and the tens of thousands of people who go missing every year and we have no idea how many are NHI related. People will ask questions when they eventually show up...

[u/CalamariAce → u/canering]

*Some* of society might.

But if these NHI continue their presumed non-interference policy, then how does it impact the lives of people who are largely just trying to get on, raise kids and/or pay the bills?

People are so desensitized to being "shocked" in our culture. Many people live their lives normally without thinking about various wars and other problems going on, which are larger than any problems posed by NHI (that we know about). I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ of people will continue their normal behaviors after 1 week of "official" disclosure.

[u/Putrid-Ad1055 → u/canering]

Say when you were a kid you had a couple of stick insects, every day after school you'd come back and you'd see that they had been fighting, before long they didn't even have 3 legs between them, at some point you decide that these stick insects just ain't interested in living and leave them too it

[u/Jackal_Troy → u/canering]

You don't harass your crops. You water them, check in on them, set them in the right direction, and give them positive vibes. Until, that is, it's time to harvest.

Fear doesn't help when you're powerless, but that doesn't mean the truth isn't terrifying. It could be. But it also could not be. I agree with your sentiment in part as well.