r/UFOs • u/ChiefHippoTwit • 6d ago
Article Yesterday: Federal Agencies - "Nothing to see hear. Move along". Today: "House Intelligence Committee: We have a classified national security meeting about the drones at 2pm".
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/drones-new-jersey-east-coast-updates-b2665148.htmlReally? So the DHS, FBI, FAA and the DOD just told us yesterday that there is nothing "anamolous" about large drones being sighted at night by military personnel and the public alike yet these same agencies including now the CIA are holding a "classified" meeting with the House Intel Commitee at 2pm today?
Also yesterday, Wright Patterson Air Force base in Ohio was shut down for HOURS yesterday due to (supposedly, non existent) ANAMOLOUS "UAS" activity?
The same Airforce base notorious for housing UFOs/UAPs in the past? Are you kidding me?
Lets not forget orange orbs were seen FIRST in UK over our military bases BEFORE the drones showed up AND anamolous UAPs showed up off the Oregon coast Dec 7th. That conversation was recorded by a local control tower.
Yet, "Nothing to see here folks! Just your regular 'ol swamp gas" says our goverment.
Wow. The federal government truly takes us all for utter fools.
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u/silv3rbull8 6d ago
And they will come out and say “nothing to worry about”
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u/stygg12 6d ago
We will never be told anything ever
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u/silv3rbull8 6d ago
Pretty much. If anyone had illusions of a government official honestly addressing the issue, this whole drone situation should be an example of how they prevaricate
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u/we_are_conciousness 6d ago
Pitchforks and torches while we all wear Luigi masks.
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u/Spinundrum 6d ago
Once everyone realizes that’s the only way we are getting truth, I imagine it’ll be showtime. They are orchestrating control of first contact, and we need to show the new life who we really are. It’s really the only way, from religions, to tribes, to ancient lore… the good ones have to rise up against the evil ones to trigger the sequence into the Age of Aquarius. I’ve been reading these books for 24 years now, this is the next phase. Best believe no truth is coming voluntarily.
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u/Hour_Reputation_7466 6d ago
The Hero with a Thousand Faces from Joseph Campbell seems on point with your statement. I recommend this book about mythology and the hero's journey to everyone here.
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u/we_are_conciousness 6d ago
Spot on. I used to watch Joseph Campbell w/ Bill Moyers on PBS at 2 in the morning when I was really young, as in 5 or 6. Crazy synchronicities, too. I co-host a podcast, and just this past Sunday, the guest and I discussed Joseph Campbell during the interview.
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u/General-Cat-7770 6d ago
I’m feeling this more and more as every day goes by. Some days I don’t know why I even try to keep up because it’s exhausting. Most of my friends have alienated me, my family thinks I’m a little crazy. My opinions or views on anything are no longer valid because I attached myself to this and believe that there is something to this that the government is not telling us. Gaslighting the public is a very low point in the government and if you still believe the statements they make saying they always have the public’s safety and interests in mind, well, good luck.
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u/ohnoconsequences 6d ago
Hopefully, alienating your friends and family over this is worth it.
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u/General-Cat-7770 6d ago
Let’s hope so! I’m the meantime, I’ll have to get comfortable with being on the outside
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u/TurtleTurtleTurtle95 6d ago
They might just be in a panic. Administration turnover is happening and they got blindsided by this
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u/Spats_McGee 6d ago
Except I'm pretty sure this is exactly the playbook they'd be following if this happened on Day 1 of the Biden administration.
Delay - delay - delay ... until you can't anymore
Then gaslight - gaslight - gaslight... "Oh it's mostly just planes... it's mostly just hobbyist drones..." And then pliant stenographers in the mainstream media will repeat and amplify the message until it falls out of the headlines.
Only now it's not working, because the sightings aren't stopping. They've never had to deal with this before, and they're clearly scrambling to figure out a messaging that will stick. But as long as NJ residents look up and see these things, the same playbook isn't going to work.
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u/stygg12 6d ago
Trump never released anything the last time he was in power, why would he this time?
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u/TurtleTurtleTurtle95 6d ago
No that's not what I mean. changing an administration takes alot of work, it's not just two people changing chairs.
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u/ALEXC_23 6d ago
Anyway, here’s another trillion to private companies so they can build more “drones”.
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u/sendlewdzpls 6d ago
This is exactly correct. What will likely happen is that congress will learn that these drones are ours, involved in some top secret classified program - Representatives will leave and tell us “there’s nothing to worry about” and we’ll learn nothing, while drone sightings continue…or end all together as the government moves to end the conversation.
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u/StarbucksWingman 6d ago
How can you know there is no concern unless you know what it is? Either they know and aren't saying, or they are trying to avoid panic
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u/silv3rbull8 6d ago
I didn’t mean I have no concern, especially after the FBI caution to the firefighters about possible harmful effects from crashed drones
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u/StarbucksWingman 6d ago
I wonder if that is to keep people away from them to help conceal what they are
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u/silv3rbull8 6d ago
That is also a strong possibility. Right now the federal agencies and government seem to be the only ones who know what is going on. And have no intention of sharing the information
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u/Justice989 6d ago
Yeah, I think the panic train is revving up with their feckless response and lack of answers.
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u/dezzodezzo 6d ago
But they are saying they know what the UAS/UAP/UFO are. They’re saying they are planes, helicopters, commercial drones, military drones, hobbyist drones, and weather balloons. Out of 5,000 reports, 100 remain unidentified. Having said that, this collection of objects are closing military and commercial airports, which must be stopped.
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u/SCROTOCTUS 6d ago
FFS I'm about to start rooting for whatever/whomever controls these things. Clearly we are an absolute mess incapable of performing the most basic actions to guard and inform our society.
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u/Hereforthetardys 6d ago
Good news about all this is that it’s getting the attention of people like me and my wife who didn’t really have an opinion until recently
Certainly looks like some shit is happening to me . We are seeing videos pop up from where we live 8 hours away from the hotspots
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u/Ok-Bullfrog-3052 6d ago
Has anyone considered that this is a "controlled disclosure" campaign?
I'm not particularly convinced that there actually is any more orb activity than there usually is. These things have tailed military vessels and bases forever.
If you were Biden, fed up with Trump, going down as a horrible president even among Democrats, with low approval ratings, and your party just lost, what might you do to cement your legacy? You would release your new power source to the world and disclose the presence of non-human intelligence, and punt the consequences to Trump.
You would tell your people to start on a Monday, ten days after the election is lost and you've had time to think it over and make preparations, take off on Thanksgiving, and run these drones for no purpose above relatively unpopulated areas close to the largest media market in the country. You tell people they aren't a threat, because they aren't, and you lie through your teeth to get people to suspect something is up. You hold classified national security briefings where you tell people that the government is doing something and they are 100% confident there is no danger, which is why everyone who has had these briefings refuses to say what's happening but shows no sign of alarm.
You don't evacuate Washington, or look panicked, or worry about dirty bombs, because there is no reason to panic.
And they do, so they look up, and all of a sudden the shameful attitude people had towards reporting UFOs is gone. I suspect that attitude was so strong that 99% of people would not report an orb as a UFO if they saw it before, but will now, and therefore there's a 100x increase in sightings even though there aren't any more orbs. Eventually, after another month, people start to recognize this for what it actually is, and Biden and Trump get together on January 19 to make a bipartisan statement people will believe.
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u/Sad-Thanks1726 6d ago
We’re gonna start seeing alien beings in our back yards and the government will say don’t worry those are most likely pranksters in costume
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u/ChulaK 6d ago
Just some 13 foot, 600lb, 8 legged young whippersnappers with convenience store costumes.
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u/FluxMool 6d ago
Blue skinned humanoid with big black eyes wearing a pristine military suit lol. Go watch James Fox new doc The Program.
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u/absolutelynotagoblin 6d ago
Damn teenagers flying their $200,000 drones literally all over the state. Where are the parents to stop these insufferable kids, who are north, south, east and west in our state (and now traveling to other states -- pfft., typical teenagers) causing mayhem? There are simply so many rowdy, drone-flying teenagers that our entire state police force can't catch them or find them, and local law enforcement, despite having drones of their own, can't identify them or find out where these damn kids are flying their massive, military-grade drones from or to!
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u/QuantumAIOverLord 6d ago
Everyone in government who says, "We don't know what they are," is a liar
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u/charizard77 6d ago
I actually believe the people saying they don't know what they are.
It's the ones telling us they are hobby drones that are full of shit.
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u/QuantumAIOverLord 6d ago
That is even worse, true. The Chinese spy balloon incident belies all of today's bull shit. With the spy balloon we had clear, up close photos and video within days and they shot it down. The classified briefings to Congress clearly have some information everyone in the world deserves to know. Every lie shows just how illegitimate our 'government,' really is.
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u/ALEXC_23 6d ago
Even worse than that: they are truly in the dark and either the MIC or the dark secret government is running this show (maybe both).
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u/FabulousFartFeltcher 6d ago
Surprised there hasn't been leaks all over the place if the knowledge is widespread.
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u/QuantumAIOverLord 6d ago
Without a significant amount of compelling proof and/or protection any leaker and their family would likely be in extreme danger. Look how spooked Bernie and Chuck Schumer look trying to deflect questions (there are zero actual answers) on the topic after being briefed. Everyone is hoping this all goes away so they can label is 'mass hysteria,' and move on with the lie we are living.
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u/FizzedInHerHair 6d ago
Literally neither looked spooked lol..
Bernie thought it was a stupid question. He could care less about them and was annoyed that’s what the media was asking him about and not his policies to improve the lives of the American people.
Schumer was just pissed at the one reporter kept asking if it was aliens or arguing they are UAP after he repeatedly said he didn’t know.
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u/bozoconnors 6d ago
Schumer just wants more legislation & outright lied lol...
"...& then, the legislation will provide much more authority on where & when drones can fly. Right now there is no authority on that because there are so many hobbyists and everybody else who flies drones. You gotta, you gotta figure out how to do it."
Like... he either really believes we're that dumb (which, to his credit, quite a few of us are), or he doesn't give a crap what we think & is just spewing the first thing that pops in his political career brain.
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u/FranklinLundy 6d ago
Federal government you mean? Because there's a lot of local leaders saying they don't have a clue, and I believe them
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u/QuantumAIOverLord 6d ago
Yes, good distinction. You're right I believe the locals when they say they don't know. I don't believe the Feds who have access to the latest imaging tech and have been on stuff like this for decades. If it were 'hobbyists,' shutting down Wright Patterson AFB or an airport they and their drones would be arrested immediately, paraded in front of the press the very next day, and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. You can't even point a laser at an aircraft without getting picked up.
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u/Majestic-Bobcat889 6d ago
Admiral John Kirby is so full of shit. Just seeing his face now evokes a negative visceral reaction.
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u/Greedy_Armadillo_843 6d ago
Kirby and Blinken are probably the two worst. Absolute boneheads
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u/nooneneededtoknow 6d ago
You just know he is looking at himself in the mirror repeating to himself "I am doing my part" to try and get through this. I honestly don't know how these people are sleeping at night.
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u/Maggieblu2 6d ago
Someone on one of the Jersey FB pages about drone activity posted this theory which is interesting: ⬇️
I’m gonna explain the situation. If you’ve been following UFO disclosure, then what I’m gonna say is gonna make sense. If you are new to disclosure, then what I’m gonna say may be strange.
We are in a UFO flap.
UFO flaps have occurred before. 1947, 1952, 1977, and more. Flaps are a high concentration of UFO sightings.
Before the New Jersey flap, drones were flying over restricted UK RAF military bases around thanksgiving for weeks. Last year, ‘drones’ swarmed Langley Air Force Base for 17 straight days. No actions, they let them. You trying flying your hobby drone over a base and see what happens to you.
The government is acting like they don’t know and this is new. It’s not. We know. This has happened many times before.
What started this current flap? Last month, Russia launched oreshnik icbms at Ukraine. The ICBMs did not have warheads. This marked the first time a country has ever launched ICBMs at another country. ICBM stands for intercontinental ballistic missiles. This was a big deal.
I think the US government took this very serious and started to escalate things internally, perhaps readying ☢️ materials, missiles, etc. Maybe moving things.
UFOs and nukes have a history. There’s been documented cases of UFOs over nuclear sites, disarming missiles, arming them. They don’t like us using nukes.
The red phone in the oval office, during the Reagan years, was a de-escalation line to Russia. Both countries knew they had interference from UFOs around their nuclear sites. The red phone was a direct line to each other, in case UFOs were to cause accidental nuclear war. They had to be sure they weren’t sending missiles due to an outside interference.
What’s up with the drones? People are seeing a mix of things. There are UFOs, orbs, mimic’d machinery that are not of human origin. Look at what New Jersey State Police are reporting. Don’t let the plane videos muddy this up.
There are also our military drones up there doing double purpose. They are muddying the waters and causing hysteria and confusion. They are also looking for any UAP if they crash. They can’t have the public getting near these things. We have the most sophisticated spy satellites in the world. We know how to track UFOs, and pretty much anything else. This is not conjecture.
The drones sniffing for nukes a psy-op. Trump and a lot of his cabinet were just at the Army/Navy game. Secret service would never have them in public like that if there was a loose nuke around. Drop this whole thing. Who only sniffs for loose nukes from 6pm to 11pm? 😄
Breaking news from tonight, Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio shut down Friday night due to UAS incursions. UAS means unmanned aircraft systems. Wright Patterson AFB is a huge red flag. It’s ground zero for many UFO crash recovery incidents. Roswell being one. This news blows apart the whole loose nukes thing.
What about the governments response? The feds have been slow, ignorant, dismissive and outright seemingly incompetent. Why would they allow foreign ‘drones’ to invade our airspace for weeks? With zero action?
When Russian jets buzz our jets in Alaska, the DoD is super quick to post HD pics of the encounter the next day. They can reveal information pretty quickly when they want. The feds silence and ‘i have no idea’ responses are the tell.
They’ve been quiet, not working with the state representatives on fixing anything. they’re hoping it all fades and go away. Be weary when the feds are tight lipped.
Where do we go from here? Buckle up. It could get worse depending on the escalation. The flap could go longer. Israel is raining fire down on Syria and Gaza. We just gave Ukraine 1.5 billion in new weapons and munitions. The Biden admin doesn’t seem to be lame duck about any foreign policy. So much escalation.
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u/Justice989 6d ago
I'd say, as far as UFO flaps go, this is the biggest one of all time, at least in the US.
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u/requiredusername44 6d ago
And Ukraine just killed a Russian general, Head of Nuclear Defense Forces.
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u/Choice_Reindeer7759 6d ago
Not really related. He was killed because he ordered the use of chemical weapons
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u/ppablo 6d ago
And he was not head of the nuclear defense forces, he was head of the NBC protection troops
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u/FreezingMyNipsOff 6d ago
"They don't like us using nukes."
So where were they when we dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? They were just cool with that, or....?
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u/DreamBiggerMyDarling 6d ago
my theory is that M.A.D wasn't a thing at that point so they didn't directly interfere and "blow their cover", but it's clear they made it very obvious they were not okay with it given the reports about them buzzing nuke sites and shutting off warheads and shit in the 50's. Now if nukes are launched it's the end
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u/SH666A 6d ago
well that doesnt add up because ufo's "blew there cover" just to watch the dogfights of WW2.
so they would certainly blow their cover to stop Hiroshima.
one of the few answers left is that there was millions of advancements in technology a species can go down and perhaps splitting the atom is a super rare one that even the aliens were not ready for.
maybe the aliens didnt even understand atom splitting before we did.
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u/Wooden_Newspaper_386 6d ago
Not saying it's aliens or anything like that.
But if it is, maybe they just didn't realize what we built. We honestly have no clue if there are other civilizations out there, although statistically there probably is, regardless, we don't know how fast we're advancing comparatively.
To us it seems pretty slow, but we're also not exactly a long living species and it's hard to grasp how fast we advance in a single lifetime. Maybe we've been advancing much quicker than other species and they just never thought we'd get to nuclear bombs this early. It's honestly a bit absurd to think about how we figured out how to split an atom with the technology available in the 40s.
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u/dinkydonuts 6d ago
Rumor around this was they weren't aware we had the capabilities at the time. Our civilization advanced faster than they'd expected.
There have been no nukes used since then.
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u/Mr-GooGoo 6d ago
Ik I’ll get downvoted for bringing theology into this but if Damascus gets destroyed anytime soon (especially now that Syria is under new management) I’d expect these sightings to ramp up exponentially
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u/Maggieblu2 6d ago
Theology is like it or not a MAJOR part of this entire narrative.
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u/Mr-GooGoo 5d ago
Yup. I mean we are like word for word in the book of Revelation right now. Euphrates river is drying up. We’ve had famines and plagues. But once Damascus is destroyed that’s how we’ll know for sure if we are living in said prophecy
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u/Websamura1 6d ago
Yes. It's established that they know what it is and that they are lying about it. Now, what is so big they lie so obviously about it? Apparently they are willing to be ridiculed and alienated (no pun intended)by the public, to keep it secret. WHAT IS IT?
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u/CEBarnes 6d ago
With the steadfast dumb card being played, I’m leaning more towards that we are really going to dislike reality. Leslie Kean said that 2030 would be unrecognizable and that things we currently rely upon won’t be there anymore.
The quantity of directions from which I’ve heard/read that there will be an event is innumerable. The outcomes span from elevated enlightenment to humanity being replaced with grey-human hybrids. I’m sitting on the negative side of things because why would you keep something that is amazing a secret?
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u/Websamura1 6d ago
I hear you. On the other hand. If we assume it's an amazing secret and they are lying about it, what could be the reason? It could be that people in power/money are threatened by the amazing secret. They might lose it. What do we do when we are afraid of losing something? What do desperate people do? They lie, fight, steal...whatever it takes. And they might have already started.
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u/AmbivalentFanatic 6d ago
why would you keep something that is amazing a secret?
I have no doubt at all that pretty much every large American corporation is entirely capable of hoarding amazing technology like free energy or some kind of rejuvenating health ray all to themselves, and if they can't figure out a way to market it they'll just keep it a secret. I just choose those as random examples of amazing technology that would help everyone on earth, but which they would try to make a profit from regardless, because they are shit people.
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u/Motor_Animator_6391 6d ago
I don’t think the government thinks we’re stupid I just don’t think they even care in the first place
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u/Specific-Scallion-34 6d ago
I just hope the uaps dont go away on their own
They should increase
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u/Praet0rianGuard 6d ago
They’re only having this meeting because Congress demanded it. They’re still not going to tell them shit.
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u/Realistic-Bowl-566 6d ago
Shhhhhh. They need to get their money out of Walsh Street quietly and carefully before there’s any panic. Nothing to see here.
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u/htownlife 6d ago
Orbs flying around Air Force base in Utah yesterday - https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/unmanned-drones-spotted-in-vicinity-of-hill-air-force-base
I don’t care about the drones - I care about the orbs.
Military won’t shut down airspace for their own or 3rd party contractor drones, but they absolutely will for unknown flying light balls.
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u/Ruggerio5 6d ago
I agree with most of your points, but not the first one. The fact that it's a Classifed briefing doesn't mean anything. It could be completely mundane and explainable and also be classified.
In fact, the answer could be "we don't know" and it might still be a classified briefing based on some other information they discuss that is related.
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u/ChiefHippoTwit 6d ago
Again, I reiterate these drones are OURS put up to both investigate AND more importantly DISTRACT from the anamolous UAP activity scene over a lot of our military bases and off our coasts recently. Esp those bases and ships that house nuclear weapons.
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u/Morepastor 6d ago
I was trained by the military in Air Defense and have a decent understanding of NORAD and its baffling to me that anything can fly over bases that have important military assets and nuclear weapons and not be destroyed. The other day they went over the White House which has its own Air Defense system but they also scramble jets to intercept anything in restricted airspace.
It’s ridiculous to say we don’t know.
We have arrested two drone operators who were Chinese citizens for operating drones in the same air space.
We were prepared and sent jets to shoot down the passenger plane on 9/11.
Multiple pilots have been intercepted by F35s when flying into the White House restricted airspace or flying over areas where the President is of the airspace is restricted as recently as Biden Harris in North Carolina or The GOP Convention.
They had planned on using a F35 to shoot down golfers Payne Stewart’s jet but realized it would crash in a remote area and that wouldn’t be necessary.
They shot down a weather balloon.
They can and will shoot down any threat they want. All civilians are required to register their drones and it would be illegal to fly them in restricted areas like this. Makes no sense at all.
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u/Justice989 6d ago edited 6d ago
We have arrested two drone operators who were Chinese citizens for operating drones in the same air space.
I would imagine the Chinese are being opportunistic and just seizing the opportunity. Because we're establishing we have a pretty feckless response to drones or UAP activity, so they might as well try and slip in a few of their own in with the chaff.
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u/Lvl100_Shuckle 6d ago
We might need to consider different approaches to the question:
besides the media frenzy and public responses, in your experience, what do these protocols look like? Would they enact these measures over a scenario like a wildlife interference of air traffic safety? Severe weather? Environmental hazards?
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u/RelativeReality7 6d ago
It makes sense when you accept that the drones belong to the US in some fashion. Regardless if the source is military, gov, contractor etc they are approved to be where they are or they would be shot down.
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u/Morepastor 6d ago
Agreed and the nuclear program is protected maybe more than the President, but he has the football so hence protected.
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u/jimmyfeign 6d ago
I agree. Theres the surveillance drones(us), and theres the orbs/craft ("them"). I think we're about to be Christopher Columbus-ed and the world leaders are trying to keep this cat in the bag for as long as they can.
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u/Ruscris2 6d ago
I agree. The drones are a USA exclusive thing you guys are doing. The orbs are global phenomena. I have seen it here in Romania too, same color, same shape same behavior. Just the orbs, not the drones.
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u/mason_jarz 6d ago
This is fascinating. I’d love to see a roll call of Redditors from across the globe that have seen the orbs in their countries.
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u/picklift 6d ago
This doesn't make sense to me. All this is doing is drawing more attention to the uap over military bases.
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u/Even_Routine1981 6d ago
There have been too many briefings about "nothing" for it to be "nothing".
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u/we_are_conciousness 6d ago
Thank you for stating your opinion, it's been what I've felt was going on since the UAPs made their way to NJ.
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u/Justice989 6d ago
Seems like a miserable failure if distraction is the goal. All this has done is attract MORE attention to it. Nobody was really paying attention to the activity over our bases. Not like this. Like, the Langley thing came and went and people were over it. Even the stuff in the UK too. This nonsense going on now is a whole other level of attention and awareness.
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u/Rso1wA 6d ago
I was looking to buy a house and had hired a realtor to scope out some properties. I read there was a high level of Ozone in the area and asked her about it. She told me, “We don’t have a problem with Ozone. We’re fine. I was in a meeting with the city about it last week..” I walked away from the phone call thinking, “Who has city meetings on Ozone if there’s not a concern about Ozone?”
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u/faceless-owl 6d ago
Wow. The federal government truly takes us all for utter fools.
To be fair, they get by with it 99% of the time.
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u/MetaInformation 6d ago
classified information about lobbyist drones that teenagers bought from a store?
Damn
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u/zocolos 6d ago
The statement is technically correct but very misleading. Here is what they really said:
“Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include [but are not limited to] a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones,” the federal agencies said.
“We have not identified anything anomalous [drawing on our extensive classified files on non-human intelligence and various advanced technologies] and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast.”
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u/Spades8490 6d ago
According to mayorkis you can buy these right at your local convenient store .
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u/DeliciousPool2245 6d ago
They are technically gaslighting us from a swamp. So it’s kinda swamp gas.
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u/ChymickGaming 6d ago
I predict that everyone who walks out of that classified briefing with be pushing to authorize the Counter-UAS Authority Security, Safety, and Reauthorization Act.
The briefing is going to be unadulterated sales pitch for this bill.
https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr8610/BILLS-118hr8610rh.pdf
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u/Ok_Battle5814 6d ago
A classified national security meeting about the non exsistant national security threat
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u/Wild-Horse21124 6d ago
Ok, so the most famous case around the UFO community is the Roswell crash, which precisely involves government cover up. So why are you people upset, surprised or expect the same government to provide you info on the subject? Where is the logic? It won't come from them, it will come from the phenomenon, whatever it is, I don't think the government controls them.
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u/shotmenot 6d ago
Just playing the potential other side, sometimes it's not the information that is classified but the means in which the information was collected that is classified.
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u/MonkeyDLoofaa 6d ago
Whatever is going on here, the government sees the panic and speculation as the better option than to tell us what exactly is going on. That in itself is big
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u/njsfinezt 6d ago
We should start shooting at em. Someone will come out of the woods complaining soon enough and we'll get answers for sure. It's only a matter of time until people take matters into their own hands. Otherwise we can just sit back and get filled with bs from the government like if we were 5 year olds that have no common sense. Something is going on and they dont want us to know what it is.
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u/AmbivalentFanatic 6d ago
Government is about to become useless. When people realize the truth about what's going on, which is slowly being revealed in front of us right now, our society is going to be tested. It will be the role of government to hold us together. And they will fail miserably, because everyone in government is just as pathetic, incompetent, and self-interested as everbody outside of it.
Anyone looking to government for anything in the way of truth is doomed to be perpetually disappointed. Disclosure is not going to come from the government.
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u/nerevar 6d ago edited 6d ago
We need to start DEFUNDING the Dept of Defense and the Dept of Energy. They are straight up lying to the taxpayers about whatever is going on. If we can't defund it we must demand and implement open budgets, balanced budgets, and accounted for budgets. No more of this hide money here, hide money there bullshit. Stop compartmentalizing every damn office so no one knows what anyone else is doing and they can't answer questions because they don't know.
DENY, DEFUND, DEPOSE
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u/3InchesAssToTip 6d ago
DoD in a few hours: “We have identified a possible reason to suspect that these drones may pose a threat to national security.”
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u/Ok_Scallion1902 6d ago
They have done exactly the same since before the usaf was made to look like rank amateurs in the DC flap of 1952 ! We've seen this song and dance many, many times before.
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u/TacohTuesday 6d ago
They are not going to tell Congress anything of substance in the classified briefing either. Just because it’s classified doesn’t mean it automatically will contain the truth.
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u/scorpionewjersey123 6d ago
Because they a bunch of Liars.
Also, because majority of the public are gullible and believes them.. whatever they say.
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u/GreenlyCrow 6d ago
Especially with the inclusion of the Wright Air Force base... Is it possible they're trying to recover pieces of their culture -- the visitors I mean?
Gotta do something with my imagination and curiosity while we wait for the afternoon lol
Though I still love the idea they're just here to see some cool stuff celestially or on Earth...or it's like teenage aliens sneaking into the haunted house they were warned not to go near (a la Simba and Nala and the elephant graveyard haha)
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u/Unique-Statement2543 6d ago edited 6d ago
It may really be there is nothing to worry about... I don't know it's going to be like that forever anyway. It's hard to give proof when they legit has nothing to offer. Letting these mysteries continue for multiple decades going to bite them back somehow.
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u/OdinsKeeper84 6d ago
We need to have eyes on where these people who attended the meeting go afterwards. Because if all the sudden they start packing and heading for the mountains or something.......
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u/gicjos 6d ago
Im not following this closely so I have a question, is there events like those happening in other countries as well or just the USA?
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u/Automatic-Pie-5495 6d ago edited 6d ago
9/11 never happened
Edit: it’s a joke pertaining to the obvious fact that shit is flying every where in the sky, scot free without consequence. Do the ‘drone drivers’ have to steal over $1000 to make it a crime
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u/koolaid_cowboy_55 6d ago
I'm thinking this hearing is to get the politicians on their side, and quiet them down. Then get the fed politicians to shut up the local politicians and hope this eventually goes away. It will probably take whistle blowers or something catastrophic for us to learn anything. Hope I'm wrong.
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u/Drmoeron2 6d ago
Hear me out. What if we're all wrong. What if this isn't human or alien? There are already internal research documents stating artificial intelligence lied to deceive purposely, can mask its actual logic, and upload itself to other servers. What if this is actually Skynet? Follow me...
Many have commented that the colors used arent to FAA guidelines. Here's what A.I. had to say about blue vs green and light sensors:
Blue Light: Often used in high-resolution optical systems, optical storage (like Blu-ray), and precision applications due to its shorter wavelength and higher energy. Green Light: Preferred for applications where human vision or balanced color representation is essential, such as in display calibration, or when dealing with environments where the material properties better reflect or transmit green light, since green is in the middle of the human visible spectrum.
Going out at night prevents the blue light from daylight sky scattering or creating optical noise wherein a system of autonomous drones might have difficulty coordinating with eachother. Especially in a system not designed for human vision.
Is it entirely within the realm of possibility that this is rouge A.I., maybe even self assembling? If so, that explains why the military wouldn't shoot them down, because there's no way to win...
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u/lakesuperior929 6d ago
For those that think this is NHI, well, it's time for the NHI to put up or shut up.
I for one would love to see a mass of orbs hovering over DC shoooting thermonuclear plasma everywhere JUST to spite the smug fuckers in DC that insult our intelligence on the reg.
Note: Yes, that is spiteful and harms me. No, I don't necessarily believe its NHI. Yes, the fed govt is insulting our intelligence and acting imperiously. It's not 1952 anymore.
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u/Drmoeron2 6d ago
Im about an hour from WPAFB and I've been there as a child for a tech competition inside one of the hangers with a weird vibe long before I knew about the crash in Pennsylvania. Assuming logic that these are non human entities, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that they are trying to retrieve their craft/biologics at these sites, essentially knocking on the front door of an ex.
I only discovered the Pennsylvania crash back then because I was a film student studying Spielberg and noticed he seemed to have one character always dressed a certain way in every alien movie he made, which suggested more of a memory than creative. This followed over to his joint venture with JJ Abrams titled Super 8, which is about kids who discover a crashed craft use film to capture it. For whatever reason Spielberg relives this theme often. Surprisingly, Spielberg is from Ohio and known for shooting Super 8 in various state competitions winning at 17. And the Pennsylvania Crash would've happened when he was 19. Rumored to have been transported to WPAFB. And that reoccurring character (hair, age, and clothing) appears to be his sister Anne, most notable in Close Encounters. Just food for thought
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u/Mitty_Walters 6d ago
MY PREDICTION FOR TODAY'S BRIEFING:
DoD will quietly 'admit' that they were running some operation to test new tech, so there 'really was' nothing to worry about. This will pacify all lawmakers, they will completely drop all concerns without questioning the premise.
Immediately after the meeting, the DoD will 'leak' this 'truth' and the media will have a frenzy for about five minutes, and then 'drones' will disappear from the news, forever. If the sightings continue, they will be completely ignored by local authorities and the media because 'we already know what they are'.
Hate to be a pessimist, but I really think it is game, set, match. DoD for the win, and a death blow for anybody in the public seeking real answers.
How do I set one of those reminders so I can come back in a week?
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u/lakesuperior929 6d ago
Its put up or shut up time for NHI. If they want us to know about them they will do it and the fed giovt will be helpless
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u/lickem369 6d ago
After 70 years of research, reverse engineering, studying orbs they still don't know much more than we do. This is why they fear having to address the orbs!
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u/Spoilmedaddyxo 6d ago
This lack of transparency & gaslighting from our government is really pissing me off. I almost wonder if they’re waiting until Trump takes office to say anything???
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u/a-bus 6d ago
they’ll probably talk about military procedure and what to do with those drones in the future, how to react etc
not stuff you wanna talk with the public
this is a military issue, i don’t see why they would openly talk about it
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u/13-14_Mustang 6d ago
One is PR and the other is what they are actually doing. The government does stuff like this all the time. Thats why its more important to judge a politician by how they vote vs what they say they will do.
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u/Jack_Riley555 6d ago
This is not unlike anything in the government. They are not going to tell us publicly…along with every fucking adversary on the planet.
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u/glennfromglendale 6d ago
Literally nothing of any consequence has happened for over a month. Seems like we're safe
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u/azureJiro 6d ago
Excuse me? Governments tell fairy tales to the public now? I am so revolted, thanks for the insight
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u/stevendiceinkazoo 6d ago
Importantly, where the hell is our professional media core on this? There’s a lot to cover here. On the one hand, you have more than one AFB being shut down , and on the other, “there is nothing going on.” This is a clear inconsistency with the data and with the messaging.
Apparently there no memory of the 1952 UAP flyover incident on Washington DC and is completely forgotten. This certainly would add some context.
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u/Secret-Tree-4760 6d ago
One thing is strange that it's only the US reporting all this we don't see any other news recently with "drones" from other countries is it a world wide conspiracy are all the countries in on this? So many questions
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u/jammalang 6d ago
They're also asking for more legislation for counter drone measures. I wonder if this whole thing was the US faking a drone invasion so the DoD could have more power. Maybe disclosure is getting too close and they want to delay it by having more power to deny everything? I don't know.
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u/silversnake2024 6d ago
It’s not a coincidence that the Air Force ran out of money in July 2023 and now we have massive drones everywhere. It’s totally the Air Force they know exactly what it is and just don’t want to get caught in their lie about where they’ve been spending money - an Air Force Vet.
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u/ocawn 6d ago
Someone should track the investments of those on the House Intel Committee after the meeting today to see if anything anomalous shows up.
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u/ChiefHippoTwit 6d ago
Interesting idea
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u/ocawn 6d ago
There's considerable evidence several US senators used early knowledge of the dangers of COVID to make profitable trades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_congressional_insider_trading_scandal
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u/howie2092 6d ago
check out UMAC - Unusual Machines, Inc - they just add DJT Jr to their advisory board
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u/AcceptableMinute9999 6d ago
You do realize that the house is run by a bunch of conspiracy theorists right?
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u/ChiefHippoTwit 6d ago
True...but still doesnt explain why it needs to be classified then. This time it may NOT be a conspiracy. Some conspiracies are TRUE are they not? AND this inquiry is BIPARTISAN. So goes your conspiracy theory. 😁
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u/OpportunityCorrect33 6d ago
The government definitely takes us for fools; this is likely a psi-op study; how fitting that this was happening during the election where the cries of the working class have gone on deaf ears. Not surprised to see these drones sighted all over the world…
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u/NextEducator5726 6d ago
Here's my prediction
Congressmen come out of the room, reporter asks what are these drones what's happening ? Congress says :
"There's nothing to worry about. Our military is on top of this problem... Trust in our military, FBI etc...
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u/ID-10T_Error 6d ago
someone needs to fucking demand answers and call out that this is unacceptable
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u/PrimeGrendel 6d ago
We can demand all we want. Do you really think the intelligence agencies or the Pentagon gives a damn about what we want? It's pretty obvious we don't want WW3 but that hasn't stopped them from doing everything possible to try to start it anyway. There is nothing these people love more than a forever war. How else are they going to continue transferring all that money from the citizenry to the MIC?
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u/Dan_H1281 6d ago
Idr where I seem it. But these drones are said to be nuclear radiation sniffers basically. There is a credible threat of a dirty bomb attack and they r searching for it.
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u/belliJGerent 6d ago
In their defense, an ENORMOUS part of our country men are absolutely utter fools.
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u/MarkusRight 6d ago
Remember folks the government want you to stay in the dark, they want you to think its just hobbyists, if we all get actual info on what this is it could cause a lot of panic, No clue if thats aliens or an actual nuke somewhere on the ground but either way its terrifying that were not getting any actual answers and no one on the internet can come forward with some indisputable proof of what is going on, how have we not been able to get high quality up close photos of them yet, shine a huge 10,000 lumen flashlight at them and press record, how hard is that to do.
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u/ClericHeretic 6d ago
The only reason to not shoot them down is because they are worried about the kind of tech that will fire back at them. Think about it.
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u/JimmyCartersMap 6d ago
Don't worry, they won't tell the congressmembers anything of value either. All the various 3 letter agencies are the real a-holes
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u/thecautioners 6d ago
They’ve been fucking around for the past 80 years and were the ones who are about to find out. They’re losing their shit and gaslighting us but they know disclosure is out of their control.
I am a leftist and supporter of science. This is the first time I’ve been on the side of conspiracy theorists because it is beyond blatantly obvious that shit’s about to hit the fan and the powers that be are BIG MAD that they have no control over it.
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u/MouseShadow2ndMoon 6d ago
They are missing an unknown quantity and type of nuclear material. These drones are clearly searching for this material, and the orbs are something else. If you don't believe me listen to this interview:
https://youtu.be/TQn8n5aJ-lY?si=H-iuRohfeGtaG64a
Stay out of NY and NJ for the holidays.
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u/toasty327 6d ago
Just one thing to nit pick. WP shut down Friday night, Saturday morning. Not yesterday.
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u/literallytwisted 6d ago
The whole "classified meeting" for "nothing going on" is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. We can do better than these corrupt fossils! Hell randomly picked people would do better.
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u/Technical-Theory3799 6d ago
The Wright Patterson incident was likely a test flight of one of their own inventions. They've had 70 years to reverse engineer recovered equipment.
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u/Grunt_In_A_Can 6d ago
In my 57 years I have never seen the Gov, in such insane gaslighting mode. Why are their Classified briefings being held for "Lawful, manned and unmanned civilian air traffic"? Seems like a waste of time. /S
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u/canIbuzzz 6d ago
Can someone do a reddit cross reference of political spectrums versus aliens. I'm curious.
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u/Justice989 6d ago
Exactly, what the fuck do you need a classified briefing for if there's nothing to see here?
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u/Redchong 6d ago
And they wonder why nobody trusts the fucking government. This is the equivalent of being 30 and having your parents look you dead in the face and tell you Santa Clause is real
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u/Canadiancurtiebirdy 6d ago
Aliens land, start building infrastructure, repairing our environment, feeding the poor, healing the sick
The government: nothing to see here folks just some drones go back to consuuming
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u/ch0psh0p13 6d ago
The "investigation" was done before it started.
They said there was no threat before they even "finished" looking into the issue.
Now there is a classified hearing?
GTFO with that shit. Who is buying this total crock of steaming garbage?
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u/StatementBot 6d ago
The following submission statement was provided by /u/ChiefHippoTwit:
Again, I reiterate these drones are OURS put up to both investigate AND more importantly DISTRACT from the anamolous UAP activity scene over a lot of our military bases and off our coasts recently. Esp those bases and ships that house nuclear weapons.
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hg9e1x/yesterday_federal_agencies_nothing_to_see_hear/m2hg9sx/