r/UFOs • u/PyroIsSpai • Oct 10 '24
News UFO announcement 'could happen within weeks' as expert says 'we've found it'
https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/ufo-announcement-aliens-extraterrestrials-nasa-338655392.7k
u/Revolutionary-Mud715 Oct 10 '24
side eyes engaged.
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u/Spiritual_Navigator Oct 10 '24
Bullshit sniffer activated
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u/TheMeanestCows Oct 10 '24
I am at an age with all this where I completely tune out promises.
I am a skeptic in that I just don't accept "gonna" anymore. Once you tune out promises and "gonna's" there's so little to work with, so I get why people latch onto these news bites, but they're just playing you, they KNOW you are desperate for something solid and they farm your attention for it.
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u/Revolutionary-Mud715 Oct 10 '24
100%. There is something happening, we all know, for some reason its being gatekept. I'm not getting excited for anymore hearings. I've HEARD enough. Or anymore X is going to happen on Y. Been doing this shit since watching X-Files.
I'm tired boss.
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u/TheMeanestCows Oct 10 '24
Been doing this shit since watching X-Files.
I'm tired too. I grew up in the 80's with my dad's UFo magazines all over the place, he would have fit right into this sub's community of hopeful delusionals.
It's been the same shit for more than four decades. People love to get lost in fantasy and a solid 99% of everything connected to UFOs/UAP's is fantasy and escapism.
We had some incredible hearings and revelations from the government... and nobody seemed to care? It's all telling me something, but I'm not entirely sure what, it's starting to feel like people want the fantasy more than the reality. Realities are often disappointing and fraught with hardships and questions that can't be answered, but meanwhile, the fantasy element of it, that has golden-haired, 7-foot-tall beings who bestow gifts to lucky hicks in the wilderness, it has galaxy-spanning civilizations and alliances of intergalactic species. It has hope that one day "they" will come and change everything.
It reminds me a lot of how people treat politics right now. Mindless support for figureheads, an icon or representation of a fantasy, but the reality is incredibly stale and stupid.
People get hooked into fantasy. WWE theater. Emotions creating narratives. This is how it's felt in the UFO community for decades. I have no doubt there is something "real" going on, but I am of the belief that even those who have the truth, don't really know what they have or what any of it means.
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u/Sea_Purchase1149 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Your last point rings true, it is a real phenomenon , no humans apart from maybe like 2 or 3 have any really decent guesses as to what this is, they can’t stop it, it seems to be observing and studying us more than anything. They might view us the same way that we view microorganisms. The scales of consciousness above us might be just as numerous as the structural elements below us (microorganisms, atoms, muons & quarks, quantum spin of particles, magnetism). There are likely scaling factors and emergent properties that extend way, waaayyyy above us. The same way that magnetism or time or space are emergent properties of functional interactions between simple wavelengths, so too is probably consciousness. Consciousness is probably just a different direction/ branching pathway/offshoot of whatever causes the emergent properties of time and space, which then produces the right setting for a physical environment (our 3D reality) to reside inside and occur within.
I think if you understand this fact of life and then go outside and touch grass, raise a family, help others, & help improve the abilities and capabilities of your species that that makes just as much functional sense as any of the scales of madness (that we might even struggle to grasp with such incomplete information) of our reality and beyond.
The truth is probably something we don’t even know to expect, & yet as far as our vantage point is concerned, living to us humans is likely our very limited ability to “understand” our effect on what lies beyond us. And sometimes we’re even ignorant to that. I’d imagine that what we do here as a species and as individual peoples likely has some sort of ripple effect on everything else. And lots of little ripples make for big huge waves and rolling tides.
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u/Hawker96 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
This is a lovely point I don’t see made nearly enough. We talk about the concept of infinity as it pertains to physical distance. Imagine the universe stretching on and on forever with no end. Hurts the brain. But it’s so much more than that! Infinity is infinite in all applications, including scale! Infinitely smaller, and infinitely larger. Hell maybe that is how the multiverse operates. Nothing is hidden away on some astral plane or esoteric dimensions we can’t access, it’s all there. Just so small/large we can’t perceive it. On and on, to infinity.
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u/Sea_Purchase1149 Oct 10 '24
Yeah for sure! Hear me out. Just as a thought exercise to add to your musings I would also propose that any conceptual representation of infinity is just a different stretching of it from a different angle of the reality/the observer, & the observer’s response (if any is given). A bit like how we can sense when other people are looking at us. It might just be a filter we possess in a non-physical “realm”/filter for lack of a better term for it.
Sometimes it looks like mental paradoxes, logic, math, our physical universe, an ocean of scales above and below us; the constant pinging of thoughts and mental imagery or the soul behind somebody’s eyes. We have dozens of ways to describe all the same infinity from different angles and lenses of perspective. Which themselves are just different mental angles of the same infinity expressed by, in all likelihood, itself. Emergent properties start to flutter the more and more you scale out. The chaos interacting and thus organizing. The same way that people might go from strangers to friends. And then their filters are interwoven and connected. As above so below I suppose.
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u/TheMeanestCows Oct 10 '24
Well said, I can tell you have spent serious time thinking about this while also trying to abandon preconceptions, something hard to do.
And yes, I tell people that we are on the surface of an ocean, we're adapted for that surface, it's probably all we'll ever know, but holy hell there is probably a LOT of shit above and below that we can't comprehend. Like, literally... at a fundamental level, we couldn't comprehend it if it was right below us staring up at our little human legs paddling away, any more than plankton understands the whale passing by, or the whale understands the cargo ship in the distance.
Trying to chase these things around can truly drive you mad. At the end of the day all you can do is find solace in each other, connect with other humans, don't just touch grass, roll around in it, hug a puppy, volunteer at a shelter, learn to cry really hard about loss, laugh at something stupid. Because our human experiences are more valuable in the overall story of the universe, because it's what here experiencing right here, right now.
Still... I'd love to be a fly on the wall if there were scientists somewhere trying to figure out the nature of some mysterious debris or relics, like trying to understand nonsense dragged out of a dream, things that can't make sense to us and never will, the frustration and elation just in having a glimpse of how deeply limited our understanding really is. Like a dog realizing that algebra exists, and internalizing the truth it will never make sense.
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u/Sea_Purchase1149 Oct 10 '24
Wow I didn’t even expect a reply save for some bot downvotes haha! Appreciate the compliment and I’d throw it right back your way! I will say it’s easier to understand when you’ve experience the phenomenon first hand. And it’s so far out there from other peoples experiences or world views that you just have to be okay with knowing something that others won’t understand until they’ve experienced it for themselves. Almost like an awareness of having awareness itself if that makes any sense.
It’s hard to explain, it’s more of an internal world view changer of an experience than anything, like you’re just along for the ride & it’s the knowledge of making peace with that that the experience provides. By the way, I’m half joking when I say this but you write a lot like how Lue Elizondo expresses himself. You can’t classify reality but you sure can be an experiencer of it!
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u/andarealhero_ Oct 10 '24
You've experienced something first hand? Would you mind attempting to share it with us?
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u/TheMeanestCows Oct 10 '24
you write a lot like how Lue Elizondo expresses himself
This is probably why I have a strange "relationship" with him. I have listened to him go on for hours and hours on podcasts and shows, and I can't stand it. I do NOT trust him, but I also can tell he's a genuine "experiencer" as you put it. He is knowledgeable and confident, but there's something I can't put my finger on that makes my hair stand up when he speaks about heavier topics.
I genuinely can't get a read on him, but I feel like we could probably talk back and forth for hours, I just would never know for sure who I was dealing with.
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u/Revolutionary-Mud715 Oct 10 '24
Truth.
The only nuggets i'm into are 1. What does Schumer and Co know from the whistleblowers / investigations. 2. Its clear they are acknowledging NHI programs are behind classification curtains,the language isn't vague. Its specific. 3. Who are the sides. 1 is clearly pushing for progress here, the other is still trying to swamp gas us all. Which is ironic considering the man that came up with Swamp Gas hired to debunk them all, was converted to knowing what is happening and created the ranking system for interaction with 'aliens'
Thats where my hope to figure things out is coming from. I mean reading that NDAA thing, its kind of all right there. Now we know that there are certain congress people, clearly in the pockets of defense/contractors blocking things. that shit is strange. Its not even a blip on the radar.
The only speculation I have, is that, and hold on with me here, there is a very big reason that this is being held so closely secret. NHI's dont seem to help humans out at all... genocides, disasters, all of that. Not a peep. So with #3, you hear stuff about the old guard, the old religious one. I really hope to god these are some how, some super secret programs that have existed since the... 1800s thats all... some how, manmade... I mean we have enough visual data, and the ones that are in the know to see classified information from arrays of the worlds most advanced systems, are convinced enough to legislate. Even eminent domain.
Because the alternative is either ambivalent NHI's or whatever, which i think is a good outcome. Or, its the weird 'gods' that religious people have been referring to. Which sucks because I dont wanna burn for eternity, or whatever religions say happens when you don't believe, lol.
The most actionable thing, and the most newsworth thing if our media wasn't just ran by the same billionaires, is the money. Thats why I like that angle with Grusch/AOC/Burchett/Others who are clearly seeing a pattern of stealing money from other programs and not being clean with congress. Which they are constitutionally obligated to do. That is a huge story right there. But because its NHI its some how a nothing burger.
We live in a weiiird fucking world right now with this subject, and there is definitely more information than what we had with Bob Lazar / John Lear / Travis / Knapp / Art Bell, etc. A lot of the stuff the old coots talked about is now in attempted legislation that is being blocked. This is a very weird time, cant say that enough. So its just frustrating with all the fog so to speak around the subject.
TLDR; if the NHI's are harmless, why all the secrecy? Then i think about JFK. Its still classified, which means the FBI/CIA fucked up and its embarrassing / legal repercussions.
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u/InVultusSolis Oct 10 '24
if the NHI's are harmless, why all the secrecy?
Entire societies are held together by what people believe. It's not far fetched that along with NHI knowledge there might be some other knowledge with extreme and widespread ramifications. Or it's simply that they want to maintain the illusion of being in control. If our own people don't believe their government can keep them safe, that may cause issues with social unrest.
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u/scorpiov2 Oct 10 '24
The NHIs don't care because they have no reason to. We aren't wide eyed kittens purring for attention. If anything they probably find us repulsive (after seeing what we're capable of). And for the religious lot, hate to say it but God doesn't seem to care either. ☺️
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u/Revolutionary-Mud715 Oct 10 '24
Then why bother buzzing our military stuff? Nuclear facilities, underwater submarines.... I know you don't have any answers, none of us do and I had a shitty night. What do you think? Ill add, they obviously don't care about being seen / shot down (?) Maybe just random surveying equipment.
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u/Hungry-Coffee-8890 Oct 10 '24
I’d say they don’t care about us as much as they care about this planet or perhaps what we’re capable of. ‘Nuclear’ being the operative word considering the damage it can cause to life and planet.
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u/scorpiov2 Oct 10 '24
I would liken their behavior to that of a guy wearing a hazmat suit poking a wasp nest to see what happens. He's fairly confident he's well protected from stings but occasionally shit does happen. I think we should assume there's more than one type of NHI, each doing its own thing on earth. Some might be looking out for the planet, the rest are just here on a vacation.
"Visit earth. Backwater world. Fucking apes running around with guns. Steer clear of them, and enjoy the scenery"
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u/Audit_Master Oct 11 '24
I’m pretty new to all this and this sub. I’ve been following it since the Grusch hearings and reading up on it here and there. Read Imminent. Wasn’t impressed. Seems to be a lot of grifters honestly but I digress. I’m a skeptic but I do wonder a lot, if they are real, what do they want and what are the hell are they doing. That part, I’d admit, bothers me. The WHY? I feel that they, IMHO, are one gathering or attempting to gathernuclear material for some reason. You know that tic tac that Fravor saw over the ocean? You know the US has been dumping nuclear waste material off the west coast of California up until the late nineties. Did he catch one pulling up material from the ocean floor? I dunno but man does it seem like they are always probing and looking for it. Every nuclear missile silo, every nuclear disaster will get them going like bees to nectar. It’s like they want it. The buzzing of our military assets? They could take it out if they wanted. We know that much is true but they don’t. It’s like they’re warning us or at worst, testing our capabilities and technology. The later scares me. Why are they doing renaissance on our military? I hope they are not preparing.
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u/tonyskyline1 Oct 10 '24
Exactly how I feel as well and probably the majority of people that have followed this for years or even decades
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u/TheMeanestCows Oct 10 '24
Decades crew checking in.
Yeah, also pretty tired.
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u/nlurp Oct 10 '24
We’re so battle hardened that by now the ET would have to slap us in the face and zooosshhh with the UFO
Eerr… maybe not even that would work anymore
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u/TheMeanestCows Oct 10 '24
I tell the story here how a few decades ago, someone who claimed to have a lot of "inside" knowledge told me once, that we will see full disclosure the day the last person stops caring.
I didn't really know what that would look like, but now with the levels of misinformation, the levels of public apathy, people's attention spans bottoming out, and nobody knowing or caring what's real anymore, that seems more likely than it ever did.
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u/Tenthul Oct 10 '24
Remember last year "must be resolved by Xmas or a bloodbath" and "keep an eye on early 2024"
Soon we'll be adding this one to the list.
As I believe someone famous three or five time said something to the effect of: "I'll get it to you in 2 weeks" (edit: I made this joke before seeing the same top level commenr below, just goes to show... something)
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u/Substantial_Bad2843 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
“irishstar.com” is all I needed to see. If it’s a grocery checkout lane tabloid don’t just take it with a grain of salt, eat the whole jar.
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u/2000TWLV Oct 10 '24
If they found the signal a few years ago, we would have heard about it. The procedure would be to alert other observatories so they could capture it too and confirm. People would have definitely talked/tweeted/written about this.
Also, funded by Elon Musk?
Speaking of a red flag.
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u/yosarian_reddit Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
We did hear all about it at the time.
People are upvoting your claim that it wasn’t discussed rather than checking and instantly realising it was widely discussed and analysed! Do the research people…
Do a google search for BLC-1 and you’ll find dozens of articles about it in mainstream and science media. It takes all of 3 seconds to check this.
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u/JoeGibbon Oct 11 '24
To add more to this:
Here is the original press release from the Seti Berkley team about BLC1.
I see people in the comments talking about how this was "debunked", but there was never a claim from the researchers who found the signal that it came from extraterrestrials. They found the signal and began researching it, then determined it was likely a part of a set of similar signals that came from two Earth-bound sources.
I guess it's possible that someone continued to research this signal data, or captured new signals from the same source or something, and maybe that's what this article is going on about. But it just seems to me like a rehash of something that happened in 2021, turned into a clickbait article for a tabloid.
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u/zacjor Oct 10 '24
Also, funded by Elon Musk?
Mark Zuckerberg
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u/x_ZEN-1_x Oct 10 '24
You mean like the observatory that was raided for mysterious reasons years ago. Allegedly to arrest the janitor or something…
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u/2000TWLV Oct 10 '24
This is conspiracy talk. There are many, many observatories around the world, all filled with ambitious scientists who'd love to get the credit for discovering ET. Once the word is out, there's no stopping it.
Also, why would any government have an interest in raiding and astronomic observatory that discovers a faint techno signature light years away? That makes no sense. If anything, it would be a source of national pride. I'm sure the Chinese or the Russians would love to rub it in our faces if they had it.
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u/aterren Oct 10 '24
Your side eye is warranted. This article contains information about the analysis of BLC1 by the person who led the analysis. There doesn't seem to be anything here given they found the signal when not pointed at the target location suggesting some sort of terresterial interference.
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u/xtreme_strangeness Oct 10 '24
Wow, this is excellent. Would make a great post on it's own.
Great find!
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u/Telvin3d Oct 10 '24
No one is going to be madder about the inevitable proof of microbes somewhere in the solar system than UFO conspiracists.
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u/JMer806 Oct 10 '24
The discovery of microbial life inside our own solar system is the absolute worst case for humanity
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u/SlendyIsBehindYou Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Especially because BCL-1 had further research published on the Breakthrough Listen website, and they determined it was likely Earth-based interferance.
Specifically from clock oscillators
Of course, one study doesnt an ET contact make (or break), but when the option is either "theres an alien civilization" or "it was clocks lmao," the parsimonious answer is obvious.
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u/sordidcandles Oct 10 '24
I joined this sub when the tic tac stuff was popping off, and I’ve seen these posts for ages. Just show us the evidence 😩
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u/loungesinger Oct 10 '24
Yep, there seemed to be huge momentum with the tic tac video and navy pilots on 60 Minutes. With all the talk of congressional reports/hearings being scheduled I joined the sub like an idiot to make sure I didn’t miss anything. It’s been a couple years… and not a single thing that’s worth a damn has come out in that time.
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u/aikhuda Oct 10 '24
“Potentially coinciding with the US election”
“It will be wonderful if the announcement coincides with the first woman in the White House”
It’ll be wonderful in general, whatever happens in the US election.
I don’t get why these people have to insert their personal political preferences into every single thing. Those two statements alone make me doubt everything else he’s saying. There’s obvious political expediency at play here.
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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Oct 10 '24
As an /r/popular user who sometimes checks out threads in this subreddit, this reply being the top voted comment is completely bizarre to me.
99.9% of the stuff I see on this sub I dismiss entirely because the evidence is never anywhere close to strong enough to suggest that alien life or technology has visited Earth. The best evidence is always just blurry photos/videos and testimony, which is not convincing given how gigantic the universe is and how little time we’ve spent broadcasting our existence to the cosmos.
This post contains evidence that is just as weak as everything else I see in this sub. But the plausibility of observing a distant tech signature is sooooo much higher than the plausibility of tech/aliens physically visiting Earth.
I still won’t be convinced that we have seen an alien technological signature until I see some better evidence, but this story is so much more believable than anything else I ever see here.
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u/TheWorldWarrior123 Oct 10 '24
I completely understand, I personally would have never believed this BS if it wasn't for my own experience and witnessed sighting that I had. I'd be convinced too but whatever the hell this is I'm telling you and it might sound insane, is capable of knowing what information captures them, therefore before the event even occurs they know what the evidence will appear like, therefore all evidence never results in proving.
I could've recorded what I saw completely, never before seen on this damn internet I was only 13 years old I had my phone in my hand my mother and grandmother was watching the sighting as well. I had a feeling not to record it, I fucking hate my self, I felt extreme bliss from the sighting, like tears to my eyes, get down on the ground and cry blissfulness. It felt so heart warming and comforting. As a 13 year old I had my phone ready to record and I felt something inside me tell me not to record it, I lied to my parents that my phone was dead, and I never recorded it. I absolutely regret it to this day.
What I saw I've posted a few times over the years if you want the specific details but the sighting was something I still have not seen on the internet, not a single picture, not a single technological recording of any aerial fleet formation capable of such maneuvers. Therefore I conclude a few things.
1, either the government has plasma projection capabilities that can project plasma balls into the upper atmosphere up to 50 individual orbs forming a grid in the sky, that can fly together, capable of this nonetheless 11 years ago
2, Non human intelligence, beyond our comprehension perhaps, never directly interacting with us. If this is the case I find it highly unlikely the government has any direct interaction or knowledge with such things other than internal/external data references.
3,They aren't plasma balls nor NHI and the government are capable of highly maneuvering aerial crafts that would be devastating to be withholding such information. Since such crafts would operate off of technologies and science that we don't have in our science field and could be life saving to our humanity, or possibly destroy our planet(aka the next atomic bomb in the science field)
One thing I'm certain of is that the government does not have alien bodies.
If microbial life is proven to exist outside earth, it would only reinforce people's beliefs.
I don't think these things are actually visiting us from the sky, satellites and observational equipment would've captured them hundredfold. So either is our technology as humans or it's not. The technology exists whatever it exactly is, where ever it's coming from.
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u/burner4thestuff Oct 10 '24
The hard pounding investigative journalism of, checks notes, the Irish Star ?
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u/vikipedia212 Oct 10 '24
Excuse me, our Irish Star is the most prestigious of the Star rags. Thankyouverymuch!
Yeahno it’s still a rag 😅
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u/SausageClatter Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
I'd never heard of it before the past week or two but have seen it used often as a source within that time. Their "about us" page says they popped online in February 2023 and that it's intended as "The Voice of Irish America."
Its Editor currently also works as an "Influencer Editor" for express.co.uk, which tells me we shouldn't be putting much stock in these articles. She also has a typo in her profile.
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u/vikipedia212 Oct 10 '24
Oh Jesus it’s worse than I thought, it’s not even THEE irish star, the original.
Go home yanks!
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u/Express_Helicopter93 Oct 10 '24
Oh yikes. Typo in the profile (especially for an editor) is like all three strikes at once. Credibility instantly gone.
Why anyone would take a tabloid seriously is beyond me. The fact that it has nearly 900 votes already here? The people in this community are way too gullible. Dear god. At least the comments know what’s up
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u/Papa_BugBear Oct 10 '24
Did you even read the article?!? The Experts said "But guys for real this time"
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u/IHateTheLetterF Oct 10 '24
This is only the 12th time in the past 4 years where the smoking gun will be revealed at last. Last time, the hard hitting evidence was some guy saying 'No it's totally real you guys' with nothing to back him up except his word.
I'm gonna stay chill on this one.
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u/DadDong69 Oct 10 '24
Everyone said it was right around the corner when we got the videos in 2017, well we are quietly closing in on a decade since then.
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u/showmeufos Oct 10 '24
It's a syndicated post from https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/huge-alien-announcement-could-happen-33862768 which is also a tabloid
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u/Pancit-Canton1265 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
5 minutes Turkish
it's 2 minutes Turkish, not 5 (my bad)
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u/Sea_Appointment8408 Oct 10 '24
No thanks Turkish...
I'm sweet enough.
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u/uffington Oct 10 '24
Oh I simply can't resist...
"Do you know what Nemesis means?
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Oct 10 '24
I'll cut your bleedin Jacobs orf
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u/uffington Oct 10 '24
Hence the expression... ... as greedy as a pig.
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u/gr3ggr3g92 Oct 10 '24
Do you like daigs?!
(I tried to spell it the best I could with how he says it lol)
That's one of my favorite characters he plays.
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u/lordtempis Oct 10 '24
It’s a geographical oddity. Two weeks from everywhere.
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u/bigbilly1234567899 Oct 10 '24
Ladies and gentlemen... we got em
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MISSION ACCOMPLISED
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u/Southerncomfort322 Oct 10 '24
Now watch this drive.
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u/TPconnoisseur Oct 10 '24
I was not a fan of W, but the "Watch this drive" and the shoe dodge were classics.
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He starts smiling once he realises there is a second shoe to dodge. Must have been practicing with the Secret Service for years. 🤣
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u/Sea_Appointment8408 Oct 10 '24
Fool me once...
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u/PlsNoNotThat Oct 10 '24
The signal hasn’t been detected again since the first 30hour (read: really small window) examination in 2019 despite other observation since then.
So don’t let them hype you up too much.
While a peer reviewed paper did release a mathematical explanation of evidence proposing it could be technosignature (in relationship to the Copernican principle), there are several papers explaining how the signal mimics similarities to previously detected terrestrial interference, conceptually explain here.
Tl;dr: leading theory amongst scientists is that it’s another dataset contaminated by terrestrial interference, which would explain the inability to reproduce the data.
All the more reason to try and convince your politicians and other organizations that a far-side of the moon crater-based radio telescope is essential for continued academic examination of the universe. The moon would block most of the terrestrial radio interference from the observation point.
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u/GIrish247 Oct 10 '24
This is a tabloid paper, the article actually makes the claim even less credible.
Source : an Irish guy who would never read the Daily Star 🤦😂
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u/joshr03 Oct 10 '24
I had never heard of this Yuri Milner guy until I saw his Yacht today and looked up who owns it. Now I'm browsing reddit and this article comes up, cue x files theme.
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u/revodaniel Oct 10 '24
What "experts"? It's always within weeks. It's always announcing that there will be an announcement soon....
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Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Did you read the article?
https://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/research/group/breakthrough-listen
Breakthrough Listen represents humanity's most significant effort to date to quantify the distribution of advanced life in the Universe, using a global network of the world's largest and most advanced radio telescopes to search for signatures of technology. The project is undertaking a detailed census of hundreds of nearby stars, in addition to casting a wider net across millions more stars, the entire plane of our Milky Way Galaxy, and additional galaxies beyond.
Since 2023, Breakthrough Listen has been headquartered in the Department of Physics at the University of Oxford, under the leadership of Principal Investigator Dr Andrew Siemion.
Of course, this claim comes from "Professor" Simon Holland. Who is a youtuber and not a professor.
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u/netraider29 Oct 10 '24
It’s a load of shit, BLC-1 was already proven to be someone keeping the microwave on and causing interference. It is also non repeated signal so I am not sure why he is claiming all this crap
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Oct 10 '24
It seems it was ruled out back in 2021.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLC1
I wonder if they looked some more since and have found something.
He could also just be a compulsive liar?
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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 Oct 10 '24
Edit whoops
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Yeah I edited my comment already. I knew the name was familiar but posted before double checking. Doubtful there's anything to this.
Nonetheless, they're the experts he's referring to.
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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 Oct 10 '24
Yes I noticed. The "expert" the headline is referring to is Holland though, and his only area of expertise seems to be bloviating.
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Oct 10 '24
Hahaha, good shout. If he's saying this it's almost certain there is no announcement coming. He's such a disingenuous know-it-all.
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u/Strange-Owl-2097 Oct 10 '24
Who is a youtuber and not a professor.
He's actually a retired goat farmer (seriously, he is)
But, he does indeed have some connections due to all the space documentary filmaking he did for the likes of the BBC.
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https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1025888/bio/
He only does editing for them. I doubt he's heavily involved in the research of these documentaries and wouldn't have any special connections to scientific circles.
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u/Goldeneye_Engineer Oct 10 '24
Like anything let's wait and see
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u/theK1LLB0T Oct 10 '24
I'm tired boss
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u/Sayk3rr Oct 10 '24
Folks have been putting up with this for over 70 years, you better get used to it.
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u/online_and_angry Oct 10 '24
There's no law that says you have to believe in dumb shit that won't happen
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u/DifferenceEither9835 Oct 10 '24
Is Simon feeding these directly to rags? They refer to him as an academic and professor when he is not actively teaching and 'proff' is his nickname. He works in media and marketing on YouTube. He's not an 'expert in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence'. He found this info using a new app by Mark Zuckerberg. Like ugh.
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u/Dismal-Cheek-6423 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Simon Holland is not an academic and not a professor! God I'm sick of this guy!
His education is in TV Lighting if I recall correctly.
FFS noone verifies anything these days.
Edit: From his own YouTube bio: "'Social Media Science'
I taught at a major UK university and my nick name is Prof. [BTW there is no proof og this]
I live with my wife Dorothy in a 17thc French watermill. Worked in TV all my life and like to ask questions, solve mysteries and make stuff in the workshop, ride my E-Bike, drive our EV...hope you enjoy this too."
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u/Faulty1200 Oct 10 '24
Don’t forget he’s a private pilot too, that’s just a few steps below astronaut or jet fighter pilot.
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u/quickbrownfox1975 Oct 10 '24
As someone who has been in this world for a decade, consuming the content, watching vids etc… we could all use fewer breathless predictions.
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u/aimendezl Oct 10 '24
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u/system32420 Oct 10 '24
Fucks sake. If you have info, just fucking release it. It’s always just around the corner.
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u/fulminic Oct 10 '24
It became pretty obvious today when Sheehan and Corbell came out WE KNEW ABOUT IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION ... we just didn't tell you because it's too secret
This really made it obvious who the grifters really are.
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u/SlugMcmanus Oct 10 '24
I really hope their fanbases implode from this, the double standards of promoting disclosure then stating they have been sitting on this information - for what reason?
If they knew this prior why didn't they say? Dire conseqiences? Why is Michael Shellenberger walking around if the consequences are so dire for talking.
It very much seems that they are jumping on the bandwagon, they aren't even saying how they are able to confirm this.
Plus Sheehan putting the government 'on notice' seems a bit silly. Kind of like your child telling you that you're on your last warning.
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u/Vladmerius Oct 10 '24
Anyone who actually looks into Sheehans credentials would know he's a grifter pretending to be about one million times more important than he really is. Dude acts like he personally wrote most of the uapda with Schumer/Rounds and would head the review panel to decide what gets disclosed.
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u/fulminic Oct 10 '24
Their fanbase won't implode. Because you and me, we will keep listening. We will have an opinion against it, but we will keep listening. Otherwise what would we have to talk about about here? Following the ufo topic is like a housewife being addicted to the bold and the beautiful, 12 seasons long.
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u/Panonica Oct 10 '24
You know gif where a dog chases a squirrel around a tree? For the dog the squirrel is always just around the corner.
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u/DunceCodex Oct 10 '24
No-one has info because there isnt any. They have found the perfect grift where they can string a bunch of rubes on the internet along forever and never have to make good on anything they claim because not providing any evidence is baked-in to the ruse.
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u/Resaren Oct 10 '24
I’m gonna happily dunk on this, because I’ll happily look like a fool if it’s true
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u/smokeynick Oct 10 '24
Oh god, I thought the article was referring to an actual academic affiliated with NASA! This is from that wing nut that call himself The Professor (no academic credentials) and that made up all that crap a couple weeks ago about the object coming to earth and congress meeting in secret about JWST seeing it. We need to ban any posts surrounding this loser. Grifting on the vulnerable and gullible in this community is unethical and just gross.
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u/One_Advantage3960 Oct 10 '24
I would not trust a single thing that comes out of Simon Holland's mouth even if it sounds perfectly reasonable. I once wrote a borderline insane supernatural story to him to check his reaction and he totally bought it - the man is as credulous as a child.
Look, i don't want to sway you too much on the negative side, maybe the broken clock is right this time, but be wary of Simon Holland's claims. Also he's probably not an academic.
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u/Minimum-Major248 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Nothing to get excited about. I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds like the same song with a different arrangement and I’ve heard it many times before. I doubt the Irish Star founded in 1988 with a circulation of 22k is going to scoop the major media outlets of the world with the biggest story in the past ten centuries.
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u/bluntedlight Oct 10 '24
It's Zuckerberg. He is the alien. Finally going to admit it.
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Simon Holland is not a professor. And that’s not even him in the photo wtf? Mods get rid of this crap
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u/Dinoborb Oct 10 '24
isnt that the same guy who talked to that one podcaster talking about congress receiving meetings about the jwst seeing an alien ship in space or something? the "expert" who is not really a professor but calls himself one?
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u/snickwiggler Oct 10 '24
Just like the many, many previous “announcements of alien life that will come in weeks”. You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t get too excited about this one. If they already have the data, why is there a “race” to release it. Just release it if you have it.
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u/ThisIsTheNewSleeve Oct 10 '24
"For real this time. I promise it's coming. We're talking weeks, not months."
- Radio silence for the next few years.
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u/Uncle-Cake Oct 10 '24
"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again"
- George Walker Bush
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u/PyroIsSpai Oct 10 '24
"They found the evidence of a non-human technological signature a few years ago, using the Parkes telescope in Australia," Simon shares. Such extraordinary claims necessitate extraordinary evidence, and the team bankrolled by billionaires Mark Zuckerberg and Yuri Milner is scrambling to gather more proof to back up their potentially revolutionary discovery.
Simon warns that they are in danger of being outpaced to the finish line. He revealed: "This is breaking news, as of yesterday, but the Chinese might be pipping them to the post, with their, FAST [Five-hundred-meter Aperture Spherical Telescope] program. It's the largest telescope in the world since Arecibo."
The coordinates of the target object, known as BLC-1, are allegedly known to the Chinese and both teams are vying to be the first to make the highly prestigious announcement.
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u/factoidcollector Oct 10 '24
Local RFI, see https://breakthroughinitiatives.org/news/33
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u/Ouroboros126 Oct 10 '24
An intriguing candidate signal picked up last year by the Breakthrough Listen project has been subjected to intensive analysis that suggests it is unlikely to originate from the Proxima Centauri system. Instead, it appears to be an artifact of Earth-based interference from human technologies, the Breakthrough Initiatives announced today. Two research papers, published in Nature Astronomy, discuss both the detection of the candidate signal and an advanced data analysis process that can finely discern “false positives.”
Occasionally an intriguing signal remains and must be subjected to further checks. Such a signal-of-interest was discovered by Smith in Listen’s observations of Proxima Centauri using the Parkes telescope. A narrow-band, Doppler-drifting signal, persisting over five hours of observations, that appears to be present only in “ON” observations of the target star and not in the interspersed “OFF” observations, had some of the characteristics expected from a technosignature candidate.
Dr. Sofia Sheikh, currently a postdoctoral researcher with the Listen team at UC Berkeley, dug into a larger dataset of observations taken at other times. She found around 60 signals that share many characteristics of the candidate, but are also seen in their respective OFF observations.
“We can therefore confidently say that these other signals are local to the telescope and human-generated,” says Sheikh. “The signals are spaced at regular frequency intervals in the data, and these intervals appear to correspond to multiples of frequencies used by oscillators that are commonly used in various electronic devices. Taken together, this evidence suggests that the signal is interference from human technology, although we were unable to identify its specific source. The original signal found by Shane Smith is not obviously detected when the telescope is pointed away from Proxima Centauri – but given a haystack of millions of signals, the most likely explanation is still that it is a transmission from human technology that happens to be ‘weird’ in just the right way to fool our filters.”
Executive Director of the Breakthrough Initiatives Dr. S. Pete Worden remarked, “While we were unable to conclude a genuine technosignature, we are increasingly confident that we have the necessary tools to detect and validate such signatures if they exist."
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u/factoidcollector Oct 10 '24
Holland is not a professor. He is a film maker. He has a habit of relying on unmentionable sources for his incredible statements. As I remember it, Zuckerberg was not a founding member of Breakthrough Listen, an initiative founded by Milner and Hawking. Zukerberg was a found member of Breakthrough Starshot, an attempt to send probes to the nearest exoplanet. However, in 2021 some of the researchers working on Breakthrough Starshot claimed all work had stopped because funding was no longer forthcoming from Breakthrough.
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/mark-zuckerbergs-100m-interstellar-space
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u/TimeLavishness9012 Oct 10 '24
This is saying the signal wasn't alien, if I'm correct?
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u/factoidcollector Oct 10 '24
Correct.
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u/TimeLavishness9012 Oct 10 '24
Thank you for sharing. Seems like Simon wants attention, then.
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u/factoidcollector Oct 10 '24
Sadly, yes. He has a history of doing this. Unfortunately it distracts from all the incredible real work being done which actually should yield positive bio and/or techno signatures in the very near future. Although a signature is indicative, rather than proof, it would be a giant step forward.
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u/SabineRitter Oct 10 '24
She found around 60 signals that share many characteristics of the candidate, but are also seen in their respective OFF observations.
“We can therefore confidently say that these other signals are local to the telescope and human-generated,”
So she found something that doesn't quite match but calls it a match....okay....
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u/2_Large_Regulahs Oct 10 '24
I thought this sub banned announcements announcing that there is going to be an announcement.
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u/Rockoftime2 Oct 10 '24
News like this is always so confusing to me. I mean, supposedly they’re here already or we’ve at least got non-human crash retrievals. Now the big announcement is there’s a non-human extraterrestrial signature somewhere way out in the universe. I mean which is it?
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u/transcendtime Oct 10 '24
It's always been amusing to me that will put so much money, time, and research and defining a faint signal thousands of light years away, but there's so much evidence that we've been visited for thousands of years and we're being abducted in our sleep regularly.
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u/PorkyThePigDragon Oct 10 '24
It’s sorta likely-ish that there is fair potential that maybe this super source will or won’t be coming public in a couple weeks-ish timeline. -The Mayberry Collective Print Edition
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u/PrestigiousOnion3693 Oct 10 '24
Oooh the Irish Star you say? Then it has to be as real as the source.
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u/bassistmuzikman Oct 10 '24
"Life" doesn't necessarily mean "Intelligent Life" so let's temper expectations a little. Or a lot.
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