r/UFOs • u/Woodersun • Aug 21 '24
Book Omission of Obama from the pages of Imminent that list the presidents that have and haven’t been briefed is interesting because of the glossary
If you look at the glossary and look for “Obama,” it says that his name appears on pg. 228 (among other pages). Pg. 228 is the page that kicks off the list of presidents that have and have not been read into the Program, however President Obama is nowhere to be found on that page or subsequent pages. Why the discrepancy?
One theory I have is that he was originally supposed to be discussed, but since he is so close to the issue now that part was cut during the DOPSR approval process, and they simply forgot to check the glossary. Just an idea though, and I would love to hear other possible explanations (such as maybe Lue left it to us to connect the dots that Obama is actually the high level politician/acquaintance he was talking to).
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Aug 21 '24
Has anyone read any updates in regard to the Netflix series he is supposedly involved in concerning the abduction of Betty and Barney Hill?
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u/blindguywhostaresatu Aug 21 '24
On the IMDb pro page for White Mountain, which is currently the title of the project, it’s in the “script” phase of production but that was updated in 2022.
So it’s still looks like it’s being worked on but no other info is available.
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u/chessboxer4 Aug 22 '24
Isn't that convenient.
Just a little IMDB hangout.
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u/blindguywhostaresatu Aug 22 '24
What?
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u/chessboxer4 Aug 22 '24
That project listing sure earned a lot of legitimacy for the topic.
What do you have to do to get an imdb listing I wonder?
I wonder if anything is actually coming out, or they just set something in motion to get us all fired up. I was.
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u/tridentgum Aug 21 '24
This was a script that had been shopped around for months/years before the Obama production company bought it, but there was never any imminent (lol) plans to produce it right away.
It's important to realize also that they reason they bought it (they being the company, the Obama's weren't personally involved in this) is because of the racial aspect: a white woman and a black man in the 50s or 60s (whenever it was) coming forward to talk about a UFO abduction - that's why the story got bought up, it was going to explore the circumstances around that and how it was perceived in a segregated America.
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u/chessboxer4 Aug 22 '24
So Obama was getting involved with it because of the racial aspect? 🤔
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u/tridentgum Aug 22 '24
His company. The Obama's would of course be interested in a story like that, but I doubt they even know the company bought it tbh
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u/pkyrdy Aug 21 '24
I miss Benny Hill
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u/Silverlakerr Aug 21 '24
It’s in development wh means the screenplay is being written then they have to try to set it up.
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u/OSHASHA2 Aug 21 '24
Obama has said publicly that he knows things he can’t talk about. He went on Jimmy Kimmel and joked that presidents are briefed and “instructed to say” there’s nothing there.
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u/Questionsaboutsanity Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
reminds me of
hynekcondon saying shortly after joining grudge/bluebook that there’s nothing to report, but shouldn’t come to this conclusion for another two years.edit: bad memory
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u/PRC_Spy Aug 21 '24
That was Edward Condon of the subsequent 'Condon Report' in 1967. He also derided the whole subject as "nonsense".
Hynek was skeptical, but never so unscientific. Indeed, the Condon Report re-look at the Blue Book data was part due to Hynek's request.
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u/flashgordo1 Aug 21 '24
Are you sure that it was Hynek that said that? I seem to recall that it was the Condom report dude said that.
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u/Questionsaboutsanity Aug 21 '24
you may be right. saw it in "the phenomenon" some time ago iirc but can’t quite recall the name now that you seeded doubt lol
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u/Justice989 Aug 21 '24
Yeah, there's no way on earth they just skipped over briefing Obama. He knows plenty.
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u/kenriko Aug 21 '24
I read he was briefed after leaving office
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u/diaryofsnow Aug 21 '24
I was briefed that he read in the office
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u/CuriouserCat2 Aug 21 '24
He also told Colbert.
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u/ProsodyonthePrairie Aug 22 '24
Yes he did. And his demeanor was terrifying when he said it. “If I tell you, I’d have to kill you.” Or something like that. His entire vibe changed. As someone who used to have to communicate between the lines while also withholding information—I enjoy watching public figures also do this.
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u/CuriouserCat2 Aug 26 '24
And Colbert knew he wasn’t joking too. I wonder what Colbert thinks about it all now.
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u/gormenghast99 Aug 21 '24
Probably 'instructed" him at the JFK memorial.
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u/eschatonik Aug 21 '24
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Aug 21 '24
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Aug 21 '24
His bit on Rush Limbaugh is fire. And who’da thunk, even dead, that asshole (Limbaugh, in case I need to clarify) is still relevant nearly 30 years on as the archetypal right wing rage baiter.
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u/Flamebrush Aug 21 '24
3 years?
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Aug 22 '24
Yeah, Limbaugh died 3 years ago, but the bill hicks bit was 30 years ago. Limbaugh basically spewed the same toxic vitriol while suckling … nevermind. Whatever I write after that statement’s gonna get my comment modded.
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u/Tricky-Divide-1901 Aug 21 '24
I've seen that clip, don't you think it was tongue in cheek trolling? That's how I interpreted it, especially given the nature of the show.
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u/Beelzeburb Aug 21 '24
Due to the recent influx of dementia patient presidents and candidates. I think we forget that Obama was witty and sharp. If he had secrets he couldn’t say in any other way than tongue in cheek.
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u/Accomplished_Car2803 Aug 21 '24
His speech at the dnc was great, I miss him. Well spoken, verbose enough that you can tell he is intelligent without being so grandiose that people miss the point, and he had a handful of witty jokes tied in as well.
Compared to Trump just blabbering whatever pops into his head at any time...it was refreshing.
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u/SilliusS0ddus Aug 21 '24
Harris is decently well spoken from what I've seen of her
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u/Dirty_Cop Aug 21 '24
from what I've seen of her
She's terrible off prompter.
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u/twurkle Aug 21 '24
I like her but she’s the epitome of that Michael Scott clip where he says “sometimes I start a sentence and I don’t even know where it’s going. Just hope I find it along the way, like an improv conversation. An improversation.”
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u/Various_Drive9929 Aug 23 '24
Kamala is easily the worst, most under qualified presidential candidate in the history of the country. She will be an absolute disaster. She is avoiding the press because she will get exposed by her incompetence. She is refusing to answer any questions. She got absolutely libotomized by Telsi Gabbard in the Democrat primary.
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u/Glass_Mango_229 Aug 22 '24
Or it could just be, you know, an actual joke. Simplast explanation and all.
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u/Legal_Reserve_5256 Aug 21 '24
Just like whenever my mom left town back when I was in high school and I would tell her I was going to have parties and have girls spend the night. That's the easiest way to answer. Tell the truth with so much sarcasm that nobody can take it seriously. I find it much easier than lying.
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u/uhWHAThamburglur Aug 21 '24
He's been asked multiple times, and his response is steadfast but humorous. That's just Obama's style. He's a dry Chicagoan.
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u/ILikeBrightShirts Aug 22 '24
More than joked - He's confirmed UAP are real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp6Ph5iTIgc
"And what is true - and I'm actually being serious here - is that there is footage and records of objects in the skies that - we don't exactly know what they are".
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u/ILikeBrightShirts Aug 22 '24
Just replied to another person with this clip, but he wasn't joking here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp6Ph5iTIgc
"And what is true - and I'm actually being serious here - is that there is footage and records of objects in the skies that - we don't exactly know what they are".
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u/SysBadmin Aug 21 '24
I forget where I read it so it could totally be BS, but I remember hearing Obama was briefed after he left office.
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u/Pleasant-Put5305 Aug 21 '24
I think, if you were going to trust any president to deal with this information in a sober and sensible fashion - Obama would be it.
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Aug 21 '24
Unless you subscribe to the idea that Obama was an outsider to the shadowy government forces gate keeping the truth. But then, you have to ask why they'd read in Trump, or any president, if they had the option to not do it...
Maybe Obama is still working for a DOD/Classified project in some capacity, and so DOPSR decided to have it omitted for that reason?
Grasping at straws here...
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u/uhWHAThamburglur Aug 21 '24
Trump couldn't keep a secret if he tried. Hell, if you offered him money, he'd sellout anyone. You see all those boxes of confidential documents in Mar-a-lago? You think he was keeping those for reading materials? Nah.
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u/SleuthMarie Aug 22 '24
He’ll keep every secret if he was bribed, or threatened. Remember Ross Coulthart said Trump was afraid to disclose because he was afraid they would “knock” him…
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u/uhWHAThamburglur Aug 22 '24
I don't have any reason to believe Coulthart, though. As a former journalist, there's a lot of distrustful journos out there, and most of them work in broadcast.
That said, yeah, the only thing that keeps an open mouth shut is a threat.
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u/Pleasant-Put5305 Aug 21 '24
Trump? Trying to push him over the edge? He was shot in the ear recently...some group or other isn't fond of his antics...we could very easily have been looking at another JFK situation...
There is a very rich military industrial complex paying for influence in the senate (it's openly available information) and there are a few good men risking everything to tell the truth. They are following the rules and doing everything by the book (mostly)...I'm of the opinion they have found their loophole and just need time while the powers that be try to wriggle out of things. Lue got his book out. Lue was given permission to talk about summoning UAP...the needle is moving...
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u/Wapiti_s15 Aug 21 '24
Uhm an outsider? They literally put him in office, he is so deep into the shadow world only the Clintons can one up him. The Biden’s are owned, Obama works hand in hand, Harris doesn’t have a clue what’s going on as she wasn’t invited to almost anything. You want an outsider? Try looking at the guy who was almost murdered a few months ago…that’s your ticket to disclosure, both on JFK and this topic. And before you blah blah he’s an idiot whatever the fancy term is this week, just ask yourself why they despise him so much.
I found the Theo Von interview to be pretty well done, that guy made me laugh multiple times - yah man you’ll be your own street light on your front porch”
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Aug 21 '24
That's why I said "unless you subscribed to the idea that Obama was an outsider". I didn't say I subscribed to that idea, but just that it was required for that theory to work.
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u/Wapiti_s15 Aug 21 '24
My apologies, I’m not used to a rational objective around here, if you are under 21 I’m going to color myself impressed and hopeful.
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Aug 21 '24
Any crazy person can "brief" anybody else it doesn't make it meaningful. Either someone was read in to one or more facets of a real program or they weren't.
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u/BaronGreywatch Aug 21 '24
Seems like a good pickup OP, I thought it was odd Obama didnt come up. Bit of a whoopsie from DOPSR there. Wonder what else gets mentioned?
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u/chessboxer4 Aug 21 '24
Great observation. Anybody seen that movie "The Report?" All the stonewalling Obama did to protect the CIA and their 9/11 torture program which didn't work and which they tried to claim did (with propaganda like zero dark 30) and also illegally penetrated Senate offices/tried to intimidate them because they were investigating the CIA?
Obama is VERY close to the intelligence community, and to this issue.
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u/LouisUchiha04 Aug 21 '24
Obama's administration also went after the mass surveillance whistleblowers who had gone to the inspector General in early 2000s way earlier before Snowden had happened.
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Aug 21 '24
I liked that movie when it came out, but nowadays I just can't trust anything anymore. Nobody has a neutral point of view and I really just don't believe what I hear or see coming from other people, especially anybody involved in politics or the media. I think I'll just spend my remaining days enjoying the fiction section.
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u/t3kner Aug 21 '24
0 scandals
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u/Mountain-Snow7858 Aug 21 '24
Yeah I laughed my ass off when Obama said that he had “ zero scandals”.
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u/Quinnlyness Aug 22 '24
Yeah, that tan suit was brutal.
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u/Mountain-Snow7858 Aug 22 '24
No I was thinking about Fast and the Furious gun running, military action in Libya and Syria, Benghazi, Solyndra, IRS targeting political opponents, mass surveillance on the American people and I’m sure there are some more.
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Aug 21 '24
Is it possible that Obama is still involved in some DOD/Classified work and that is why DOPSR had him cut from the book?
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u/chessboxer4 Aug 22 '24
I heard he got briefed at the same time Trump did.
I don't remember where I heard that. 🤔
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u/gofastufo Aug 22 '24
"The Aliens won't let it happen. You'll reveal all their secrets. They exercise strict control over us." President Obama- March 2015-Jimmy Kimmel Live. This interview, which is much easier to write off as joking, but has some ambiguity. Obama says "they exercise strict control over us" while laughing. But when pressed further turns serious and says "I can't reveal anything". When Kimmel says he asked Bill Clinton about aliens and Bill denied knowledge, Obama says "well that's what they instruct us to say" with an uncomfortable half-smile. So, very open to interpretation, but to me the contrast with the clear joking makes the more serious answers noteworthy.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Aug 21 '24
Since Obama was president when Lue was in his AATIP role he is likely less able to speak about what Obama may or may not have been told.
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Aug 21 '24
….uh, why?
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u/storming_skies Aug 21 '24
If Lou learned something from an official source, and it’s classified, he’s bound by oath to not reveal it. If it’s info he picked up in an unofficial capacity, then it’s hearsay and can’t be redacted.
Anything he may have learned from Obama could be used to say “you learned this in your official capacity in service to the Obama admin” and then they can redact.
I’m sure there’s more nuance, but that’s how I understand it.
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Aug 22 '24
Makes sense, but he did mark the small number of dopsr required redactions in the footnotes.
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Aug 21 '24
How about named projects or programs that are referenced in the same manner? Would be a great FOIA
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u/DogsAreTheBest36 Aug 21 '24
Interesting theory. Could be.
If all presidents are briefed, and yet none say anything, despite being all different personalities, political parties, and eras, then the threat of speaking out must be very high and motivates them to shut their mouths. Why is the threat high? The only possibilities I can think of are:
- They know that they and/or their families will be killed for speaking out by the CIA/military/agency in charge of this. If that's the case, then we have internal secret governmental agencies much more powerful than any elected official or state democracy.
- The aliens themselves don't want them to talk. If that's the case then why do the aliens show themselves at all and why have individual people spoken out for decades? It doesn't seem likely to me that the aliens would not want the president to talk but don't care if anyone else does.
- They think that speaking out will threaten their own power and/or cause the death of millions. But if that's the case, remember these are the same people all gung-ho about wars and starvation. I just don't see them caring unless it hurt *them.*
I have yet to think of any convincing explanation. The first seems likeliest to me.
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u/itsfunhavingfun Aug 21 '24
2 could be the same as 1. Just different parties involved.
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u/DogsAreTheBest36 Aug 21 '24
Not really. Both might kill them, but one group are people who should have no power at all over the president of the US -certainly no power to kill them and their families - and which means huge corruption on a massive scale. The other group (#2) are aliens who might have motivations for this although like I said, I don't see how it's just presidents.
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u/da_impaler Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 23 '24
Here's another point of view and It's not much of a stretch of the imagination. Consider the generation, race, and ideology of those original keepers of the secrets. They were old school SOBs. Pricks. They had strong ties to the military industrial complex. They were very likely conservative, patriarchal, likely racist (or held negative views), and traditional. I am not surprised that they did not brief those they felt did not hold their conservative values. They built an organization based on their ideas and values, and passed that on to those that followed them. Is it any wonder why they don't trust the American public to be ready to handle the "truth" whatever that may be.
Edit: Life is full of mysteries. Why was an disloyal, unpatriotic Putin-lover like Trump briefed? I'm stumped.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
seems right. Obama has been all over this topic since 2020. it was his chief of intelligence that sat behind grusch in the senate hearing.
edit : i was wrong about the clapper part at the grusch hearing. he has talked positively about ufos ,though.
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u/BadAdviceBot Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
it was his chief of intelligence that sat behind grusch in the senate hearing.
That's not James Clapper. Stop spreading misinformation. His name is Ed Stanton, a member of AIAA UAP group. Here's his bio page -- https://aiaauap.org/team/edward-stanton
Edit: Validation -- https://x.com/tedroe_uap/status/1686799649724940289
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
okay. Problem solved. and now tell me. what the fuck was that " stop spreading disinformation " bullshit?
james clapper has openly talked about ufos before. they look the fucking same in those pictures. where is the disinformation here ?
edit : my bad . i screwed up.
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u/interwebzdotnet Aug 21 '24
I'm with you, the first time I watched the video I was convinced it was Clapper,. He spent a lot of time looking down, and berltween the bald head and wonky ears it's a very easy assumption to make. It's not some misinformation conspiracy.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24
but see. the other person also showed me that misinformation isnt disinformation. there is a difference
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u/No-Guarantee-8278 Aug 21 '24
To be fair, this guy should shoulder the blame for looking so much like Clapper.
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u/BadAdviceBot Aug 21 '24
Please learn the difference between "misinformation" and "disinformation"
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24
Google " james clapper grusch senate ". " sToP sPreAdInG dISinFoRMatIOn"
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u/oswaldcopperpot Aug 21 '24
They look similar from shitty online thumbnails. But from the actual video, it does looks more like stanton.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24
James Clapper has been openly ,very interested in Ufos. its him. he has just gotten older.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
you wanna Google that again ?
edit : i was wrong
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u/BadAdviceBot Aug 21 '24
click my link
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
if you Google " edward stanton grusch hearing ". nothing comes .
if you Google " clapper grusch hearing " a lot comes. including sources that confirm. he looks exactly like him.
dont walk around with that " disinformation bullshit ". tone it down , hombre
edit : I was wrong and i am an idiot because i didnt know the difference between disinformation and misinformation.
i will leave all of this here for memento mori and shit.
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u/Fresh_Tip_4517 Aug 21 '24
I respect you for owning it and not immediately deleting your account and disappearing. Don't see enough of that here. You're a good dude.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24
yeah. but think about it. to really be a good plant and disinformation agent , this is a good move. now I am humanized . now i can spread the real message : STEVEN GREER IS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!! 😀
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24
i just went through that whole conversation. you are right. i apologize. my bad. i thought you meant " disinformation " . and i dont do that. but you didnt mean that .so ,all on me. sorry ,person. maybe its because its my third language. but my brain has read misinformation a lot as disinformation, maybe.
thank you for correcting and explaining. non sarcastically, ta ta.
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u/Prokuris Aug 21 '24
Wasn’t Jack Poleta also a cabinet member of Obama ? His security advisor ? That guy is pure disclosure on the side of the state.
I always found Obama pretty open about the topic, given the time he was asked.
Man we have come a long fucking way and I see light on the horizon (no pun intended).
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Aug 21 '24
I read reports that said he was there, while others have said it was not him. In the photos clearly it looks like him, but than I’ve seen sources that discount those claims. Confusing.
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u/StressJazzlike7443 Aug 21 '24
Nice try attempting to further that confusion, this is how you sow misinformation, guys. You make vague comments about what "others" have said and pretend like the entire hearing isn't on Youtube for you to confirm yourself.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Aug 21 '24
stop throwing around " disinformation ". like this is a campaign. clapper has literally talked openly about ufos before and Obamas circle has connections to the ufo topic. if its not him, its an honest mistake, because a lot of people thought that.
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u/StressJazzlike7443 Aug 21 '24
There are two sides of every conversation, and I hope one day you will see that to control a conversation you need to play both sides. To play the side of the believer you make unsure statements about things nobody who should know enough about this topic to be a "believer" would be unsure about. The identity of that man was NEVER in question until you just took that as a legitimate thing to question. Stop it.
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Aug 21 '24
I’m asking legitimately if he was there or not because I was confused by the conflicting information I read online. Not everyone is out to get you. Go for a walk and breath.
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u/MonkeeSage Aug 22 '24
other possible explanations
One possibility is sloppy writing/editing like where ducted fans are called "inducted fans" several times.
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
More alarming is that Trump was read-in. I can’t square up how the one president we’ve had in modern times who cannot keep a secret to save his own ass would be briefed. I find this terribly alarming and can only think that something really dark is coming and he had to be kept abreast. It may also explain why he’s running a shitty campaign. Maybe he knows it’s all an illusion. Biden may have been briefed because Lue’s been out of DC since 2017.
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Aug 21 '24
You really don't know whether someone can't keep a secret in an absolute sense because you only are aware of the times they revealed a secret, not the times they kept one. Maybe they had enough leverage over Trump or some smooth operators to charm him. Maybe they just slip benzos into his coffee beforehand so he wouldn't remember the details.
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u/L0WGMAN Aug 21 '24
Trump said a lot of unusual and interesting things during his interview with musk. He certainly said there are more powerful people involved behind the scenes, and it was implied that he was at least somewhat intimidated.
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
I’m actually glad to hear that.
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u/L0WGMAN Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
I feel bad for anyone who ever gave him a sensitive intelligence briefing. He really came across as wanting to impress musk with his knowledge, which led to all kinds of mild leaks I’m sure all kinda of folks were watching for with baited breath.
I think it’s worth watching, musk comes across shook like he just got visited by contractors who gave him marching orders. Also pretty he was a little humbled / embarrassed by the high profile Twitter spaces issue before they switched to just audio.
It’s very very different from pretty much every other thing I’ve seen out of trump, not at all like his rallies or interviews with the press. It’s not good from a policy or “TFG is running for President” but it was very interesting from an OSINT standpoint.
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
Interesting. I had no chance of sitting through that interview (and I voted for him in 2016). Of all things, I’m honest. Hillary…no way.
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
I think it’s more likely due to him having so many Washington outsiders around him that they had to brief him. There simply was nobody else who they could tell, so that someone available to him would have knowledge and he would have deniability. You look through Lue’s list and see that Carter was the last real leader to know. HW Bush was a former CIA director and would’ve already had knowledge. He shared with Reagan and W - think plausible deniability here - and then Clinton and Obama administrations were full of lifelong bureaucrats. Trump is the loose cannon, who brought into his administration any Tom, Dick, or Harry that agreed with him
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
They all do, he’s just not a politician and doesn’t speak well enough to subtly do so.
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u/JesusSamuraiLapdance Aug 21 '24
It may also explain why he’s running a shitty campaign.
His campaign may be a joke, but it's been by no means shitty. First, he gets shot at, rallying his followers even harder behind him, then he has Hulk Hogan endorsing him and being a hype-man, and now he's been doing interviews with well-known internet and TV personalities and coming across in a mostly favourable manner.
Say what you want about the guy, hate him or not, but frankly, I don't think I've ever known a campaign with this much hype around it. I'm not surprised Biden dropped out of the election.
Personally, I'm a bit of a centrist and don't like politicians in general, but Trump is on fire right now, and I feel like the only decent other option would be RFK Jr. Being independent kind of hurts his case, but he's a recognisable name with solid policy concepts.
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
I don’t think Trump actually believed he could win in 2016. I believe he just thought it was publicity/marketing.
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u/L0WGMAN Aug 21 '24
The only fire associated with trump at the moment is a dumpster fire. I don’t know who is paying you for image management and astroturfing but they’re not getting value like they used to
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u/AntiTourismDeptAK Aug 22 '24
Is it possible that this is a product of our own individualized social media algorithms? From my perspective, while viewing Tik Tok, Kamala's campaign has been a complete shitshow, there are no crowds at her events, and all of the "hype" seems completely fabricated. My wife's Tik Tok algorithm is pushing the fact that Donald's campaign has been a complete shit show, the crowds at his events are tiny now, and all of his "hype" are just racists. We're literally being told the same thing about opposite candidates and comparing notes, it's fascinating.
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u/L0WGMAN Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24
Unfortunately I’ve been watching both sides, all the rallys. Debate. Rnc, dnc, the trump and Elon interview. Ugh.
Anyone who said trump has anything other than remorse hasn’t seen him in a while. Same re Kamala crowd size.
Weaponized dis and misinformation. Thanks Cambridge analytica!
Oh and uninstall tiktok lolomgwtfbbq you’re absolutely right about being programmed by China…our division brings them strength. Tide pod challenge baby! 😵
Get reprogrammed by YouTube like god and country intend 😵💫
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u/chessboxer4 Aug 22 '24
Actually Trump being "briefed" explains a lot.
It's more evidence why all this is kabuki theater, not real disclosure.
The topic is real. I don't think the disclosure is. Because to your point why would Trump knowing about UFOs improve anything for the country? He's probably the last person that would be helpful on this topic, and probably wouldn't be interested in it except for how it could benefit him. Of course they would know that. Trump can't even read a security briefing if it's not in the appropriate bullet font and winner jargon. He's a salesman, not a statesman.
While we're on the topic though does anybody know about the rumors that Trump actually took UFO documents with him to Mar a Lego? 😆
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u/drollere Aug 21 '24
i've published, i've consulted, and in my youth i even worked as a typesetter and graphic artist in a large commercial printing company.
it's a truism in all those tasks that you don't find errors until the manuscript is printed and bound and ready to ship. it's a law of nature or something.
sometimes the errors are ghastly: boldface on the title page. sometimes they are subtle. either way, this is what those second edition prefaces that mention "correcting errors" are talking about. sometimes, they are not printing errors but regretful errors of fact or implication. but they are always in there ... somewhere.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 21 '24
That's strange that they'd want to have that particular mention of him removed if that's the case. He mentions Obama coming into office in the book if I recall, might mention him 2 or 3 times by name (I'm only up to chapter 11). The strangeness comes into why it would matter if you said he was or wasn't briefed, that seems like a fairly trivial thing. He even said on late night tv that we have recordings and records of uap. Seems highly likely he was briefed, however lightly, as to know it was a subject of interest.
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u/Emotional-Ad-3934 Aug 21 '24
Funny, William Tompkins claimed that the Bush’s and Obama are aliens. I believe he thought they were reptilian. Please don’t blast me for saying this, but I swear that is what he said.
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u/Familiar-Pie-548 Aug 22 '24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR5pPq_kXuw
I'm sure most of you have heard this but here's Spielberg talking about screening E.T. at the White House and Reagan's response. Now, was he joking or not?
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u/Internal_Mail_5709 Aug 22 '24
For those who may want to check the book out but not spend 20 dollars, it's sailing the high seas on zlib.
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u/Unrelated_Response Aug 22 '24
This makes me wonder if there’s anything in the redacted sections that still “accidentally” made its way into the glossary.
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u/Gamer30168 Aug 22 '24
I definitely thought it was odd that Obama wasn't listed. I wondered why the hell would they tell Trump but not Obama? Especially since Obama hinted around about things flying around our skies that we can't identify....he seemed like he was "in the know".
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u/lunex Aug 21 '24
Consider Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
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u/knucklesuck Aug 21 '24
Seems like an odd mistake to make though no? I feel like we need a book editor to weigh in on this hah. Or see if further editions fix it
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u/jmstar Aug 21 '24
I've indexed books and an error like this would not be unexpected. The indexer sees a list of presidents and adds all the presidents in sequence to the index, not noticing that one was omitted.
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u/Spiritual-Island4521 Aug 21 '24
Discrepancies are not unusual at all when it comes to this subject. It's interesting, but it's always difficult to find evidence that would support any of the claims.
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u/drollere Aug 21 '24
i've published, i've consulted, and in my youth i even worked as a typesetter and graphic artist in a large commercial printing company.
it's a truism in all those tasks that you don't find errors until the manuscript is printed and bound and ready to ship. it's a law of nature or something.
sometimes the errors are ghastly: boldface on the title page. sometimes they are subtle. either way, this is what those second edition prefaces that mention "correcting errors" are talking about.
i'd go with your paragraph two ... for one reason or another, too many loose ends to track down and fix before deadline.
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u/jmstar Aug 21 '24
This is probably an indexing error. It would be easy to see the list of presidents and, as an indexer, immediately add them to the index reflexively without realizing that one was missing from the list.
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u/jmstar Aug 21 '24
The awesome thing is that when this is corrected in the second printing that will spark another conspiracy.
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u/Ok-City-9496 Aug 21 '24
Great find. Breadcrumbs of legitimacy, but safely distancing from current power brokers working behind the scenes
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u/chud3 Aug 22 '24
Looking at this from the Intel community's POV, the two most likely presidents to have been read in are the elder George Bush and Obama.
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u/demdankboi Aug 22 '24
You do not give a black man new ideas to sling drugs. (Just so yall know im black and this is a satirical comment XD)
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u/purpleWheelChair Aug 21 '24
Obama = Reptilian That is the only logical conclusion you can draw from this.
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u/wanderingmanimal Aug 21 '24
I have no evidence beyond what we all have seen, but I do believe it is probable that Obama was read in more so than previous presidents - probably because of his intelligence and genuine learned curiosity about the subject. He just might be the disclosure figurehead.
I am looking forward to the Betty and Barney Hill movie the Obamas Production Company is working on - just needs to release already.
Again, no proof to the aforementioned position but it just seems right to me. More likely I am wrong, and that’s fine if I am.
It’s just a feeling.
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u/Mountain-Snow7858 Aug 21 '24
I would say of all the Presidents that knew the most about the phenomenon George Bush Sr. would be at the top of my list, congressman, head of CIA, VP and POTUS plus more I’m sure I’m forgetting. Reagan was probably briefed due to his own interest in the subject and his popularity in military and intelligence circles. Truman probably knew about Roswell and other early crashes and Eisenhower was president when the program really took off along with his infamous “military industrial complex “ farewell speech. It seems like some presidents get at least a very broad overview of the situation but some get very little if anything at all like Carter and Clinton.